The Features and Improvements of Synology DSM 7.2 Revealed
Synology has confirmed that DSM 7.2, the newest sizable update to their NAS operating system, will be arriving at the start of 2023 (Jan-March) for most Diskstation/Rackstation owners. When Synology first revealed that they were already in the final stages of rolling out the latest update to their popular software platform, DSM version 7.2, many of us were quite surprised about the strong focus on enterprise features and appliances being the focus point. Synology has been increasingly shifting gears on its platform toward more business and enterprise-scale users in the last few years and though DSM 7.2 updates did include a few more home, prosumer and SMB improvements, the bulk of the updates that are coming in this new revision are ones to further bolster their business single ecosystem even further! The following article covers everything we learnt about intended software and service updates for the Synology DSM Platform. How many of these end up as DSM 7.2 implementations and how many end up being rolled into individual application updates on their own (and therefore accessible in DSM 7.1 currently) is yet to be seen. Improvements in featured services such as Synology Active Backup, Drive and Surveillance Station may well arrive independently. Here is everything we learnt about future software updates and DSM 7.2. Apologies for the delay in this article. There have been recent hardware reveals in the last couple of weeks (DS723+, DS923+, WRX560 to name just a few) and a larger article that covers the planned 2023 hardware, software and DSM. You can learn about everything that was revealed at the Synology 2023 and Beyond event HERE on the blog.
Synology DSM 7.2 Release Date
Synology detailed numerous planned improvements that are arriving in the latest revision of DSM throughout the presentation. The good news is that people will not have to wait too long for DSM 7.2 to arrive, with the release stated as ‘early 2023’, with further clarification alongside other details to point towards Q1 2023 (Jan-March). This includes a great many smaller quality-of-life improvements, but some bigger ones in storage management and access. Several of the newer individual client software updates will likely be tied to DSM 7.2 and/or arrive in a beta format by the end of the year.
Volume Encryption Coming to DSM 7.2
A long-term request by Synology NAS users for a few years, the ability to encrypt your NAS beyond the current ‘folder’ level in DSM. It is a little odd that Synology has not provided Disk, Volume or Pool level encryption in the system storage manager. The ability to encrypt the full volume means that you can be a great deal broader in your protection from your storage getting intercepted outside of your own authorized use. Prior to this, encrypted upto the folder/shared-folder level meant that you would likely need to maintain multiple key files/codes, as well as result in more work as your structured your system. Volume-level encryption hugely simplifies this, as well as allowing a larger container of storage to encrypt within.
Mac OS Active Backup Client Support
Another HUGELY requested feature is parity in the Mac OS Support in Synology Active Backup that is currently available for the Windows Client. Up until now, Mac users that wanted to create a system-wide (OS level) backup relied on Apple Time Machine. This is still a solid and user-friendly option, but not hugely storage efficient, is tougher to browse through images than Synology AB and also does not play as nice with remote backups as it does with local backups (ie it supports network backups, but even then quite regimentally and does not correlate/manage those particular backups as well as using a Synology client and Synology NAS running Active Backup). Equally, Synology AB and Mac OS client app should allow viable and easier remote Mac image recovery options in a way currently not available.
Improved Active Backup NAS to NAS Remote Backup
NAS to NAS backups are NOT a new thing, but are more often than not either on a file/folder level (i.e using Hyper Backup) or, in the case of 3rd party general/linux servers, a big block of data that cannot effectively be viewed or managed natively. Improved Active Backup NAS to NAS support means that the same level of system/OS level backup image backup that is afforded to Windows PCs, VMs and More in Active Backup Suite can now be made with another Synology NAS server. Till now, the best options you had for NAS-to-NAS backups were Hyper Backup Folder level backups, Snapshot replication to send snapshot images on a schedule/sync/retention configuration, Backup your NAS image to Synology C2 Cloud (which can be synced elsewhere) and a few different file level sync/backup tools between servers. As Active Backup grows in popularity with Synology NAS users, including it in your 3-2-1 system-wide backup strategy makes alot of sense and for those that are already running a periodic/scheduled NAS to NAS backup, this makes even more sense than current file/folder level backups.
Synology Drive to Support Active Directory (AD)
Synology already has a very competent Active Directory management tool in ‘Synology Directory Server’, which turns your Synology NAS into a domain controller (DC) to manage users, devices, groups, and domain policies in a breeze. However, support of Microsoft AD is coming to Synology Drive. For the unaware, Active Directory (AD) is a directory service that runs on Microsoft Windows systems (i.e Windows Server). The main function of Active Directory from the client side is to enable administrators to manage permissions and control access to network resources. In Active Directory, data is stored as objects, which include users, groups, applications, and devices, and these objects are categorized according to their name and attributes. Then you have AD DS (Active Directory Domain Services) are a core component of Active Directory and provide the primary mechanism for authenticating users and determining which network resources they can access. AD DS also provides additional features such as Single Sign-On (SSO), security certificates, LDAP, and access rights management.
WORM Support Addition
Write Once, Read Many (WORM) has been around in the world of data storage for a considerable length of time and allows a file to be accessed by many, many users without the original file being in any way changed or corrupted – a real issue if a file/database is being accessed by many users and changes inadvertently occur which overwrite the file or changes being made by others (file/media editors tackle this in other means, such as via using shadow editing or non-linear editing). WORM (Write Once, Read Many) is used to avoid modification of saved data. With increasingly stringent regulations on how information is stored, many countries require government agencies, financial institutions, and healthcare providers to comply with strict data archiving regulations. Many of these require storage systems to not tamper with archived data. This has led to WORM becoming increasingly common in commercial setups. Good examples are photos, contracts, financial reports, emails, employee information, and other important documents. They should not be modified once stored. In some professional fields, massive data needs to be analyzed, and huge amounts of real-time data need to be recorded and tracked. WORM technology is ideal for protecting these records so that they will not be overwritten and can be saved as a reference for future use.
The support of WORM in the Synology storage infrastructure will allow loving for files for a predetermined time, as well as configuration into two separate types – Compliance and Enterprise. Compliance issues ZERO write/edit/change, even by IT admins for the pre-defined period of time. Enterprise is similar, however, it DOES allow IT admin(s) to make changes and/or adapt the WORM access. Also, grace periods can be set in for files going into WORM configurations, which allow a period of time to pass before locks are engaged. This change along with several others that are to be implemented in DSM 7.2 are slated for Q1 of 2023 (Jan-March). In short, in WORM enabled folders data is protected from manipulation by not being able to change or delete it for a specified period of time. Immutable data backups can also be carried out via Hyper Backup for further protection and retention down the line too.
SMB Multi-Channel – Better Port Utilization and Improved Drive Integration
SMB is not new, but updates to Drive and SMB support also see changes with Synology DSM 7.2, with cross-protocol file locking between SMB shares and Drive, ensuring that files in use cannot be edited or overwritten across them. In addition, with SMB multichannel transfer, all network connections available between servers and clients can be used to increase the performance of SMB file transfer, regardless of traditional conflicts that would prevent them being bound/crossed together conventionally
Improvements to Synology Office Services and Features
Synology has provided their Office application in the DSM application list for quite a long time, serving as an in-house alternative to using 3rd party office doc tools such as Google Docs and Microsoft office. This combined with the Synology Drive application results in you being able to open all of your office format docs (text, spreadsheets, PDFs, etc) from within the Synology ecosystem, where your data lives. However, there is always room for improvement and we are told that new features such as document watermarks, improved revision recognition on docs exported over and an increase in support of file format/layouts from Microsoft Word etc.
Scale-Out Clusters and ‘Synology Backup Cloud’
Synology highlighted their massive HD6500 and then discussed HUGE scale out cluster storage. The new scale-out clusters are also scheduled to appear in 2023 and provide faster file and object storage. This should allow server combinations of HD6500s servers that scale upto that of 12 petabytes to operate with a write speed of up to 60 GB/s (60,000MB/s).
Additionally, Synology is improving the management of large-scale backups from a single portal point, via a new platform/service they are calling ‘Synology Backup Cloud’ (name almost certainly will change!) that will cover the operations of Active Backup, Hyper Backup and C2 Backup operations. Synology is aiming for this tool to provide the IT admin with a single easy window to manage, remote control and monitoring of all aspects of data backup.
Not a lot was said on this feature, but expect its development to be a little slower than most as, much like Active Insight, this is very much an enterprise site tool and likely at a premium.
Improvements in Synology C2 Identity
The Synology C2 Identity application that was introduced with Synology DSM 7 at launch is also going to see updates in its supported authentication methods and client tech. These will include Windows Hello and Apple Face ID/Touch ID, as well as in connection with the upcoming C2 identity user portal, employees using managed devices can be automatically signed in with SAML.
Synology Drive – Remote Erase
The benefits of Synology Drive when it comes to larger teams of users being able to access the same folder(s) of data in order to collaborate on projects are already well documented. However, what if a client system that has access to a synced drive folder gets hijacked? Or at a moment’s notice, you need to suspend access to the share from a specific client machine AND want to ensure that no locally sync’d/download copy is still there? Well, soon Synology Drive will be receiving an update to allow exactly that includes the ability to delete data remotely and is intended to minimize security risks by removing synchronized folders from stolen Windows and macOS systems.
That just about covers it. There were further improvements that were featured in Synology Secure sign-in and C2 Password services to improve the range of supported authentication methods, as well as improvements to their Synology C2 cloud platform access and implementation. However, as these are more to do with the individual services/applications, I will save this for the inevitable Synology DSM 7.2 Beta preview and included services. So, what do you think of the planned improvements coming to DSM 7.2? Would you have liked to have seen further updates to the more ‘everyman’ services, i.e upgrades to Synology Photos AI recognition to match that of Synology Moments? Or a little more parity between Windows and Mac OS compatibility? Let’s discuss it below. We pool the comments on this article and the videos that are featured in it to keep all the relevant comments in one place, so take a look and see if your POV is the same as everyone else’s.
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I have the WRX560 and RT6600AX. I think 5.9GHz is only available on the RT6600AX. I can’t mesh the two using 5.9GHz. I wish the WRX560 was tri-band. It’s only dual band. Currently meshing both using the 5GHz-2 band on the RT6600AX since I didn’t need the extra range but I plan on wired backhaul next week to maximize bandwidth performance.
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13:12 Would a USB 3.2 hub be a possible workaround for the single port limitation? ????
Thank you so much for your review(s) of this r00ter. They are what convinced me to pony up the $236 and buy this particular r00ter.
The RT6600ax was a bit costly, for my particular usage.
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Synology has A grade software but C grade hardware… I just don’t get it. So many of their users want more out of the hardware yet they just ignore them. Crazy.
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So as a heavy syno user very much deep in the eco system, my main complaint about their “Mesh devices is that they are routers and not APs,” and that they do not offer Mesh APs, it should be if you want a mesh setup you get one of the main routers, and the Mesh devices be simple APs. In my last apartment I needed 5 aps and a primary. very expensive. when you buy one of these Mesh Routers, your paying alot for the router functionality, so essentially your burning money if you just use them as an AP, not sure if the setup is any better now with this one, but switching from router to AP and trying to get them to connect and join a mesh environment was a rigth pain in the ass with the 2200ac s. when working, epic, but the initial setup was a proper nightmare as everything needs to be running the same firmware in order to function and out of the box, chances are, they are not. and so to get them on the right FW, requires alot of screwing around. you pull a lan cable from your primary into the wan of the mesh, and you really need to watch out for not setting up a dhcp server. the list goes on. But on that bombshell, “not sure about right now but back when the 66ax came out, there was no other device you could buy that would give you IPS IDS with a 1gb throughput.
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a year later and its priced 226 chf in switzerland and I would not buy it becaue it has one port, I would use one port for the IPS which requires a USB storage device to be connected, formatted and setup for the database. and then a second port would be nice for all other functions
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That was a lot of commercial blah blah blah, how about reliability? Does it keep a reliable internet connection? How often do you need to reboot this thing? I am thinking about switching from my unreliable and buggy Netgear Nighthawk RAX45 to Synology.
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I cant with the rooter
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Seaguls playing with your lights now?
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“will allow loving for files for a predetermined time”.. about time that files get the love and respect that they deserve!
Such a Disappointment! I was so excited to upgrade my DS214Play with this unit. Then everything about it became an absolute disappointment. For the past 15 years I’ve used two different Synology units the same way. Main unit for storage and an external eSATA enclosure for backup (single version). That way at any point in time I had an NTFS copy of everything.
They decided to lock down this unit and the eSATA port is only for Synology to use. It is not usable by the user. That leaves only one USB port. Gees! Even my DS214Play had 4 usable ports on it! Further more the USB port is slower than eSATA. So this unit is a downgrade in that regard. Now add the fact that the dual NVMe slots cannot be used as storage space unless you way over spend on Synology owned drives. Ok, so I’ll use that for cache. NOPE! It’s not cache. It’s some useless smart cache that is only used for frequently read or written files. Completely unlike literally every single cache found on any raid array controller which does both that and acts as real write cache. Then onto the last disappointment. I’m using newer 6TB Seagate Exos Enterprise drives with this unit. Very fast drives. With the 10Gb adapter installed I expected to get a good 500MB transfer speed. NOPE! Starts out at 500 then quickly drops to around 140. Why? This makes no sense. That drive gets over 300 from drive to drive in a PC over a 6Gbps connection. Should be the same over 10Gb. I borrowed a QNAP NAS from someone and set that up. An entire 20GB file transfer saw an average 480MBps (with cache). Yet the DS723+ only averages 218MBps (with useless cache).
Such absolutely pointless decisions on their part. Ah well. I should have held off longer and waited for a USB 4 storage option as this unit is a complete and utter disappointment!
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Features important for me:
– Immutability
-Object Store
– Scale out / Web Scale
– 10/25Gb Support
These are all features that are requred for large scale Backup / Archive, we have them using other very expensive enterprise solutions, but as an entry level system for medium size clients would be cool.
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I hope that the people at Synology read these comments and realize that they screwed up the design. I can only hope that there will be an Intel version released later next year. They could call it the DS923++, or the DS923.5+ , or the DS924+, or the DS923+2.5Gbe, or DS923+V2.
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I’ll stick with my DS920+. The DS923+ looks like a downgrade for graphics and a sideways step for everything else. When Synology comes out with a 4 bay with 2.5Gbe ( and go back to Intel ) then I’ll probably upgrade.
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Thks, NAS Nerds
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Looking to upgrade my 1515+. Looking at 1522+ or 1621+. Is the 1621+ worth the extra $200 (cdn)?
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The Synology DS923+ NAS Review is now LIVE! Find it here – https://nascompares.com/2022/11/16/synology-ds923-nas-review/
Find Blackvoid’s review of the DS923+ NAS here – https://www.blackvoid.club/synology-ds923-review/
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The Synology DS923+ NAS Review is now LIVE! Find it here – https://nascompares.com/2022/11/16/synology-ds923-nas-review/
Find Blackvoid’s review of the DS923+ NAS here – https://www.blackvoid.club/synology-ds923-review/
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The wait continues to replace my DS918+. Come on Synology, better spec pls
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They could have easily added a V1605B that has iGPU and 10Gbe port for $50 extra. Its absurd. Synology cripples their products for extra margin.
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No Hardware Transcoding, no buy.
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Synology is completely ridiculous. Trash Hardware!
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Ah so the local Seagulls are Mac users?
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macOS = Carbon Copy Cloner! Bootable backups to RAID1 eSATA external device. Data – ‘cold’ backed up to NAS / remote NAS / SynologY C2 Cloud. 3-2-1 backup.
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Where is DVB-C support? this is going backwards…
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Luka could use a proper mic. I found it tough to understand him most of the time with that iphone earbud mic. Very muffled.
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Robbie, first it was Rooter vs Rowter. And now you’ve thrown a spanner ( that’s wrench to the Rowter crowd ) into the works with Beeta vs Bayta. And next, will you hate Shit hawks or Shite hawks ? I can’t take it any more. I’m going to head down to the local for a poynt and maybe stay for the carvery.
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ds1621+ vs ds1522+
Things that important for me:
– surveillance station
– google photo replacement.
– ecc memory
– maybe iscsi/file storage
– full size pci slot for sfp+ is a bonus but not the main concern
Which cpu is better for this scenario?
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Ok. @ about 5:12 or maybe 5:13, 5:14, it sounds like someone FARTED!!! ????????????. Listen to it. Someone let a stink bomb out of their ass????. And don’t say it was seagulls. ???? too funny. Anyway keep up the great work. I am a server nut. I have 4. Though I retired 1 of them.
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I have to say I found Luca audio quite muffled compared to yours. It was tricky to understand him in parts.
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Also – for those who are wondering where Eddie is… HE is the one sending messages (the notification noises) later in the video that I am desperately scrambling to disable (and failing). He says Hi btw…
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No ds1823+ news?
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*IMPORTANT* – Few disclaimers on this vid! First off, Apologies for the sound de-sync in 3 areas(especially in the first 15 seconds), this was largely unavoidable due to the constraints of recording the zoom audio and not using a 3rd party recorder. Next, We mention this several times, but do not be surprised if several of the features covered are eventually rolled out as features independent of DSM 7.2. The last point, sorry this vid has taken longer than it should (Synology 2023 and Beyond was 2 weeks ago!) but I judged coverage of the new Synology DS923+ that emerged at the same time as the thing you guys would want to know more about first, so I prioritized that. Hope you like this long-form discussion and mashup of NASCompares and Blackvoid. If yes, we hope to do more in future!
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Why didn’t they put in the AMD R1606G…has graphics.
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first time a review where real test speed and comparation isn’t important,when you talk a lot on a particular device without testing is a paid promo, most of the comanies force youtubers to talk wonders but not test on live coz will failed expectations.
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Does anyone have one of the new Hx74 series from QNAP? Thoughts on it?
Need Help!
My turn finally to buy a NAS and money isn’t an issue.
I edit 4k multi cam vids all day long and need to work off a NAS that has caching etc. I will need raid to back up work just in case of storage failures. My vid and clips and data are at the moment at around 15T so want a system that can handle that, back it up, and extract the data whenever I need with fast speed.
Again I want the best, something that will last years and not something that will be outdated any time soon.
Speed is the key for me though.
Thanks
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I currently own an RT2600ac unit. The RT6600ax just looks like a bigger and uglier version. I don’t know where one would put that ugly thing in their home where it wouldn’t be an eyesore.
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only 1 2.5GBE? meh…
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Planning to pair 2 of this with my RT6600ax. Do you recommend using the 2.5Gbps port to connected, using a 2.5 compatible switch, with the RT6600ax?
If yes, which switch do you recommend?
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You haven’t mentioned the addition of “Threat Prevention” compared to the MR2200ac. Don’t you agree?
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Best router and software combo I have seen is Ubiquity routers. You can hold your phone up and it uses Augmented Reality to tell you all the cables and ports connected. Please do a review of Ubiquity. Hands down the best.
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As a Synology NAS owner, I would love to buy this, but as I am forced to have it on display under my wall-mounted TV in my Living Room, it’s way too tall. I would love to see a synology mesh enabled router in a shorter form factor. Oh well – hopefully the Google Nest Wifi Pro eventually gets released in Australia
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I realize not many home users have Linux as their OS, but in a server environment it’s quite common and, as such, it would be useful to know if the software coming with the Synology WRX560 is compatible with Linux (Mac would also be useful for some users, I’m sure), since that’s not always a given.
I’ve done a bit of digging and it seems the desktop utility Synology offers for the WRX560 is only available for Windows and Mac, meaning Linux users can’t easily run it. It might be accessible via Wine or similar compatibility software and via Win/Mac VM, but that’s still a large negative for any primarily-Linux user.
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Having experience with both this router and the rt6600ax, which would you go with considering an $80 price difference? I’m learning toward the rt6600ax due to the better CPU and more RAM because I’m going to buy a DS920+ and want to take some load off the NAS by putting some applications on the router (dns, vpn server, etc).
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Does this router have any integration with a Synology NAS?
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Given the standard of 2.5Gbe available on all better motherboards these days and most newer NAS connections having above 1 Gbe available (even if its via the scam Synology 10Gbe addon) … there is absolutely no excuse for any router maker to try to sell any router without providing 2.5 Gbe across the board, for ALL connections. Even the cost for buying the port parts wholesale for 2.5 Gbe is now directly comparable to 1 Gbe. No excuse at all.
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This is so annoying because there are a lot of routers out there just like this: one 2.5 gigabit ethernet for the WAN side, but 1 gigabit for the LAN side.
If I am paying for an Internet connection that is faster than 1 gigabit, why would I not want those higher speeds on my ethernet devices? Having a faster speed on the WAN port but not the LAN port means that the only people who are going to benefit from an Internet connection faster than 1 gigabit are people with WiFi 6E devices, and then only when those WiFi 6E clients are right next to the router.
Oh. Whoops. This router doesn’t even do WiFi 6E so that 2.5-gigabit ethernet port is simply wasted.
There are so many routers out there like this, and I would really love to know what goes through the brains of the engineers who design these devices.
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stay with asus…..so far the best router on earth (in all aspect specially by price)
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I’m a bit confused with something. USB port can be used as a failover by using a mobile device’s network connection. What device exactly? Synology states on their website that usb LTE dongles are no longer supported. Can I use for example a mobile 4G/5G modem like Netgear air card or Tp-link M7350 and connect it via the USB port?
Synology is pretty vague on this.
Thank you in advance.
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I bought the RT2600 about a year ago and just picked up my RT6600. I’ll never go back to anything else that did not run SRM. I’ve been mucking about with it for 2 days now and am still learning and finding new stuff. Oddly, if you use one of the built in web filters, it might just get you past that pay wall. It did for me on one really big new web site.
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Well, maybe you can connect a DAS to that USB3 port and avoid to have to buy a NAS altogether, still, this is not for me.
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Where is the surveillance performance test?
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It would be great to have sfp+ as an option, or better, a full-size PCI expansion slot
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Will there be a new 8-bay version? I need more bays!
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I’ve wait quite a long time now and need to replace my DS413. I was sure to buy DS923+ immediately when it is released because I was absolutely sure that there could be no new NAS at the end of 2022 that lacks 2,5GE! But….. Synology did it!
What the heck!??? I’ll buy such a device for the next 10 years and 1Gbit/s isn’t state of the art any longer! Huh, you could pay 150 bucks for 10GE, ok, but not as SFP+, which consumes much less energy than 10GE copper does!!!
Talking about energy consumption: again: what the heck!? Twice TDP than the celerons!? Are you serious???? In these times when energy becomes more and more expensive!!?
OK, one more: no integrated graphics.
Really wanted to stuck with Synology but you know what? They did EVERYTHING to have me look for a QNAP. They have boxes that do all that stuff. Sad but true.
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Currently running a DS418play and in desperate need to upgrade (running 4x14tb at 92% capacity) and had high hopes for this to expand. I only use it for Plex/Emby and have waited for 2 years for nothing. I am probably going to move over to QNAP but the security fears are the only thing holding me back. So so disappointed as I’ve always been Synology but just can’t defend them anymore.
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Very disappointed with CPU as well. I use my NAS for Plex and it is working good. However, I haven;t really jumped to 4K content and figure it might struggle. Looks like the new box would be going the opposite direction for improved performance from a transcoding situation. ????
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so.. is it better to buy a ds920+ for media home server? how 100% sure is this info?
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Thanks for this … . There goes my Plex upgrade plan
BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER AND MORE BUGGER 😉
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Thanks
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err… this reads to me more like a downgrade from 920
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Disappointed, I will keep my 920+ for now but when it is time I think I need to look somewhere else…to bad I like Synology, great software, it just sits there in the wardrobe and I rarely touch it. The hardware is just to limited
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So if I am fine with paying bit more I might as well not wait for ds923+ and just buy ds1522+? I understand that ds923+ will be less powerful version of ds1522+, right?
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Shame about the lack of integrated graphics on the CPU. The Ryzen allows for ECC RAM though… that’s quite useful in the prevention of bitrot isn’t it?
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Hmmmmm ….. I just realized w/o an integrated GPU the DS?23+ NAS won’t handle real-time transcoding/uncompressing video, real-time encrypt/decrypt files, etc very well.
Well that would be kinda dumb for the so-called bestest home/office NAS wouldn’t you thinks.
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All my Plex content I ripped and transcoded for Direct Play. I’m assuming the 923 should still play these fine?
But I am still disappointed with the change.
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Did you edit those seagulls in, or are they performing live at your location?
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I’m going to keep my 1019+ a lot longer than Expected
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Wonder if any other releases. Mulling moving off my PowerEdge T340 with TrueNas (power)
Using NFS, SMB and iSCSI storage atm. 2 x 1.2TB SSD for NFS and 2 x 10TB for SMB/iSCSI
Dell SATA server disks.
If I did move I’d dig out my 4 x 4TB Red + and 3TB Red + drives.
My PowerEdge uses 50w idle
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I should probably thanks Synology, got a custom NAS build in the mail now
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I was surprised not to see in this review that you did not complain that was no WAN connector provided to connect to the internet. After all, in your review of the latest router you seem to expect it to provide all the functionality of a NAS, so it would be logical to expect a NAS to also preform the functions of a router!
As a windoze user, you probably don’t know the Linux maxim that something should do one job, and do it exceptionally well.
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Thank you Rob for another great video. Based on your info (DS 923+ & 723+) and your statement about where Synology is moving strategically, it looks like regular consumers using Plex is not their focus. So not sure if we will ever see another processor from Synology with embedded graphics. So in my own case somebody with a small business (less than 5 people using disk station for files and backup) and personal use mainly 2 video cameras and Plex usage, what is really the best Synology down the road? I would hate moving to another brand since I like and am familiar with DSM. With my current usage DS 923+ would be ideal other than Plex. My question is … is that transcoding that important? If you stream 4K videos to 4K TVs, smartphones and tablets that are 4K capable, does one need transcoding? As I understand from your previous videos, transcoding is only needed if you end devices cannot handle the file. May be I am missing something? Cheers
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Only found today. Having seen previous releases then figured this would happen. Watching this then removed those last doubts that did the right thing with terra master t6-423.
Encode everything for iTunes and playback on AppleTV 4K and use Plex on NAS with direct play so may not have been such an issue, without the GPU part for me though, as not transcoding.
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Samsung 990 PRO NVMe no Review? :()
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what will be a good and natural successor to the qnap 453bmini with 16GB ram. Qvr pro is running on it + 3 disk. Would love next one to run system on nvme ssd. Middle to highend nas…
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Disappointment… I held off getting the 920+ for the 923, because I wanted a 2.5GB connection and some GPU support for transcoding for my desire to have a plex server…. Synology really fell short here. sadly.
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100 % the same changes as 1520+ vs 1522+. No surprises
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No 2.5GbE ports? Come oooooonnnn
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Total rubbish Synology! What a disappointment. I’ve been waiting for too long to upgrade my DS916+ to a better option and definitely with Intel CPU with HW transcoding.
It’s a step backward in every possible way. Not only the GPU part. Not only not including the 10GBe out of the box. The AMD CPU consumes more power and produce more heat and on top of that is only a dual core, in 2023! My celeron was a quad core and the 920+ is also better.
Can you install normal RAM or does it have to be the expensive ECC. This is a SOHO NAS so I don’t know what the ECC!
I guess I’ll carry on with my Lenovo tiny PC from 2010 with i5 hex’s core, 12 threads, upgraded to 32GB 2666MHz DDR4 RAM with Proxmox, although haven’t decided to install TrueNas or Unraid for data storage, Plex, virtual machines and all this kind of data, media and lab requirements.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but it is essentially the DS1522+ with one less drive bay. Is there any other difference between the two?
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What do you recommend for directly editing photo/video from the NAS with a 10GBE connection? 923+ vs 1522+ vs 1621+
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Ok this is fucked up! There has to be some strategy for dedicated media NASes later on.
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what a crap, amd , no gpu, no 2.5g, qnap will be my next nas
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so disappointed Synology decided to go the ryzen route with this model series, i think they’ve made a big mistake.
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We need a 1821+ series with Hardware transcoding!
About to move to a model of a dummy nas with a small PC.
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DS923+ revealed where? What is your source? I watched the entire event, no 2023 hardware was revealed. I don’t see anything on Synology’s website. What am I missing here???
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In most domestic situations clients will be connecting to this NAS using wifi, and will have broadband far below 1Gbps, so I’m not convinced the dual 1GbE nics are a problem for most people. For the home video editors with a directly connected PC there’s always the 10GbE card. The lack of GPU is a puzzle, but I suspect Synology has data to show that relatively few domestic users are using multiple streams of 4K video. Professionals, streaming over 10GbE local networks, and using ultra-fast broadband, have other options.
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So happy I didn’t wait to buy this machine. It’s pretty damn useless without intel processor.
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well, that means i’ll get a 920+ or 720+ on black friday or cyber monday if i can find a good deal.
with the sidegrade of the chip (faster yes, but also 2c/4t instead of 4c/4t) a flat downgrade to graphics (not that i use that) and no change to the network there is no reason at all to go for the new system.
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Glad I didn’t sell my ds920. Having no gpu makes this update a horrible one.
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Shithouse Synology. So what am I upgrading my 920+ to in order to stream 4k on Plex? God damn it. I had a plan and you went off script (yes at this particular time it is all about me : )
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Morning! So, the Synology 2023 and Beyond event has passed. If you want a summary of everything that they covered, you can find it here – https://nascompares.com/news/synology-2023-online-reveal-everything-they-covered/
Note, the information on the Synology DS923+ NAS did not come from the event (at least not the official video event), but from other means. You can see more detail on this here – https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/yeu68x/comment/iu3597p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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So disappointed !!! Its like running a 10k race with everything you got only to be told you ran the wrong way. I’m so worn out from waiting I’m not even sure ill buy one now lol.
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Omg
Are they so blind that they cannot see the reason why consumers are going to building their own nas? It is because of the lacking GPU power!
Why have none of these companies a powerful APU in their lineup?
Think 1135g7 or 3200g.
I would compromise on size if needed.
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Wait, are you serious? The new one still has 1000 base-T instead of 2.5 gigabits per second like their competitors?
No upgrade for me, thanks.
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You’ll have to rip my DS918+ from my cold dying hands…
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No 2.5GbE, no integrated graphics, likely limited hard drive compatibility. The brand is moving backwards in so many areas
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I waited for the new NAS but now I need to buy the almost 3 year old NAS, yay
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Ohhhhhhwwww
2x1Gbe RJ45 …
Sure its got the 10Gbe slot and $150 part (cough … gouge … cough)
but to think that they just couldnt get around to improving the base network from 1 to 2.5Gbe.
When my 5 year old DS918 finally gets tired, I will definitely look at other NAS manufacturers if they dont at least do this.
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I’m sure glad I went for the 920. I was on the fence but grabbed one up this summer when I saw the prime day deal. It’s a great littl nas that will hopefully keep me going for years to come.
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Was hoping to upgrade my DS918+, which gets used for among other things Plex. Looks like this is a no go now and will be looking at other solutions.
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I got a scortching deal on my 920+, and I’m feeling pretty good about it right now. I’ll admit to being jealous of the 10g addition, but my network has a few more upgrades needed before 10g speeds would be relevant to me anyway. Meanwhile the bonded 1g lines can handle all the traffic I can throw it, for the time being, anyway. Perhaps I’ll be ready to step up to the next level by the time I really feel pinched by lack of 10g anyway.
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The DS923+ seems to be just the DS1522+ w/o one bay (aka redundancy).
???Can anyone tell me the CPU is in the DS723+ & DS223+ (Intell or AMD)??
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THANKS FOR THE VIDEO (s)..????Been waiting so long on this. Disappointed in processor choice. ..3 QUESTIONS for you and community: 1. If I buy a 920+, should i populate it w Synology labeled drives only (nervous about future support)?…2. Do you think Synology will stop supporting the 920+ in general inc updates? …3. Should I consider Qnap or are is Qnap simply not secure? …Thanks in advance.
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I watched the 2023 and Beyond webcast and I didn’t see them reveal this… Where did you see this? Thanks
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Hi I been watching your videos for awhile because I’m considering buying a Nas very new to this my needs are for downloading torrent movies and playing it on my TV but my concern is that most of them can’t handle 4k content only the high end model are able to but they not available around my location and they cost lots of money for simple use of media content so I found one that someone selling model is TVS-1282T for $500 but it’s missing all the 3.5″ trays and aswell as its Nas operating system the guy is using it as I normal computer so my question is is it worth buying it and trying to set up the Nas operating system and can this model handle everything please let me know your feedback back is highly appreciated
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Buff ethernet 1Gbit seriously?? In 2023 NAS??
Is a NAS:
NETWORK Attached Storage
Without 2.5gb ehernet, without ssd storage, without Plex 4k in multiusers, without moodle, without php 8.1, …
But calm, you have dsm7.1 incompatible with 2.5g usb ethernet adapters 😉
I can’t understand people who keep buying synologys NAS, or considering buying a ds920+ this company is not worth our money.
I have ds918+ and the Asustor Lockerstor 4 Gen2 will be my next NAS
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Planned to upgrade, but now I’ll upgrade to a QNAP.. No GPU and 2.5G/10G in 2022 is a no go.
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I think I’ll be giving this generation a skip.
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My DS918+ is solely for PLEX. Won’t upgrade to this. I’ll see you in a few generations Synology….
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Wow…. that’s garbage from synology, selling us garbage for the multimedia guys, shame, definitely my last nas from synology, officially I am on Qnap side.
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I use a Xpenology 918+ as my main server and a Synology DS414 for backup. I was expecting DS922+ didn’t show up. After this I expected DS923+. Now is a disappointment. I think I will build/upgrade another Xpenology.
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Does anybody know if a DS223+ product will launch? Can’t find any information on it 🙁
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Terrible CPU…..i hope for Intel N5xxx
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I gave up waiting for this and bought a 920+ with a nice discount four months ago. I’m a home user, manages my large raw photo storage for Lightroom, run Plex etc. After watching this, I think I’m still ok with the decision not to wait.
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Whew! Glad I bought my DS920+ only several months ago. It serves two purposes. A remote offsite NAS Hyper Backup and a local data storage device for my daughter. Wasn’t really thinking about it, but I might set her up a Plex server for kicks. I suspect I would have gotten a bit of a bump on the CPU, but since Synology doesn’t give you any real commitment on product releases I wasn’t willing to wait any longer. All in all I have no regrets for my use case.
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F*** synology
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Bro….you look tired. Get some sleep…good video btw. Thanks!
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For consumers I think it’s best to skip the entire 23-product portfolio and wait to see what the next iteration will bring us.
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Can’t people just use direct play? Also other option would be using a NUC paired with the nas so one can get the 10gb port.
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I hate watching videos from nascompares. They are so boring. He talk’s endlessly to prolong the videos. I hope he changes the format.
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I see a lot of people saying they’ll switch to QNAP. Isn’t Asustor also a good option? I don’t know much about it TBH so just asking.
I’m not really a NAS fanatic, I have a Synology DS-413 and an old QNAP TS-459 Pro+ both of which are just used for data storage of not-too-important stuff (distros, old games ripped from CDs/DVDs, hosting music my frinds make and so on) all of which I can get back if I loose it. I have ~ 6-6.5TB of used storage but I’d like to get a NAS that can hold it all in one box for ease of use and to lower my power usage.
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It seems like DS723+ and DS923+ is are targeting business users. So will other models (DS423+ DS223+, or DS423Play) target home user and ship with Intel processor?
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This drive is such a disappointment, even the 920+ feels to be the better choice. As I was waiting for the 923+ to start with a real NAS switching from my own build SMB-Server I will have a closer look now on Terramaster and QNAP or maybe the DS1522+. Just focusing on SW advantage as a brand in a HW business is not great job.
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Still waiting for a more powerful Synology nas to replace both my HP Microserver G8 and DS916+ with one machine for storage and some virutialisation but sadly not this year either 🙁
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o well, I was waiting for this release, however, still using 1Gbe is a big disappointment. what on earth were they thinking 🙁 Most PC & laptop purchased in the last few years have 2.5Gbe including decent routers / switches
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Poor support for Plex is a killer for me. I will go for a 1520+ but am worried for the future.
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Lol … i keep my 920+ .. thanks .. 😀
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Ryzen CPU = no sale. Any Intel CPU with hardware transcoding will more or less do. How can Synology get it so wrong?
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QNAP it is.
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Was thinking about this for my first NAS and haven’t really looked into Plex properly. Any opinions about pairing it with an NVidia Shield Pro? In terms of lack of GPU am I right in thinking 4K to 1080P transcoding or high bit rates are edge cases? You could avoid transcoding by have the intended resolutions/etc. already prepared?
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Tardis noises.
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In my opinion i had the ds918+ and i was hoping this was going to be a good choice but i saw the ds1522+ i could just tell, i think i will upgrade to a QNAP or an Asustor, i love DSM for its ease of use but this series feels like a step backwards.
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synology still making their customers pay expensive prices for upgrades that other nas companies provide. 1gbe on a new model is unacceptable….recently upgraded my internet above 1gbe and it’s more infuriating than ever that i cant upgrade my 920+ anymore after going to 7.0. Synology honestly doesnt deserve my money anymore
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Only lack of sales can make a change to their thinking.
Also, the cheeky chappies wanting all that cash for a network upgrade 😉 and it will provide 2.5 and 5Gbe as well, but you are paying for that on top of everything else. So basically forcing you to buy the card.
The network and lack of GPU are misses, which unfortunately make it hard to say automatically yes to. So unless my 918+ goes pop, then it’s a wait and see, maybe a DS923+ II/DS924+ .
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Is there any reason to go for the 923+ over the 1522+? The higher price is kind of negligible given the long estimated usage time.
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I was hoping the 923+ would be better… it’s worse than the 920+, I don’t know whether to get the 920+ or go to QNAP directly.
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I’ve been looking to buy a NAS explicitly for backing up family photos directly from our iPhones to the NAS.
720/723 and 920/923 have been my primary NAS’s of interest….however I’m not sure I understand the impact (for my use case) if any of moving from Intel to AMD and losing onboard graphics.
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Never understood tuis opsession with NAS as a Plex server.
It can be a Plex server – yes. Is it a best option – no.
Think I’ll be upgrading to this one.
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Do we know when the DS920+ will retire?
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What a total disappointment. I was really waiting on something to replace my older Synology NAS which is purely Backup + Plex. The lack of iGPU and 2.5Gbe in 2022 is … insane. Sure, you can get a 10Gbe card but that’s an extra 150+ or more… As someone who’s owned ~a dozen Synology devices and recommended them for many years, I’m going to start looking elsewhere now. What a shame.
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Done with Synology, went with a 453E and never looked back. What where they thinking? No intel, subpar ports/hardware and 1 GB ethernet really? Glad I went to QNAP it is really a great NAS.
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Ok, QNAP it is then….. dammit! I had so high hope for the 923.
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The ole 415play getting very long in the tooth, lack of hardware transcode is disappointing but i guess i can keep going with my emby via a raspberrypi4 system. was hoping an upgrade would allow me to merge though
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I mean is this even an upgrade? 2022 and they’re offering 4GB of ram soldered onto a board. Ram is so cheap I would expect it to come with 32GB’s out of the box. CPU being underwhelming I can somewhat understand considering it’s a low power unit, but the old CPU was better. And why not opt for a 4 core AMD? As for the rest of it kind of lackluster. It would make a very good file server. Not sure how it would handle indexing photos and AI recognition, might even be worse than the 920+.
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No official confirmation from Synology yet?
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I just re-watched. They never officially announced any NAS. Why jump the gun?
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noooooooooooo
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Did i miss anything, or did they not actually mention this NAS and specs on the synology 2023 beyond video?
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What is this material based on? I can’t see any Synology references
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Imagine being so hungry for money that you downgrade your NAS instead of just not releasing a new model… Between this and all the bullshit Synology pulls with HDDs and RAM stick locking to their own brand, these guys are gonna keep loosing so much marketshare…
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Ouch… no iGPU effectively makes this a downgrade from the DS920+, at least for Plex/Emby/JF users.
The lack of 2.5Gbe is a little disappointing for a 4-bay NAS in 2022.
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Thanks for the video, I’ll be grabbing a 920+ then!
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CPU is light and old. They should have just installed an SPF+ slot built in. Pass. I’ll just keep running the 920+
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let’s hack that 10gbe adapter into the 920’s nvme slots
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1Gbe, No GFX. Zero reason to upgrade. What a dog.
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Synology can keep that nas
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The Specs are really frustrating me. Hoped as many here for a upgrade to the 920+. For Plex and 2,5Gbe minimum. Synology goes a complete wrong way, what the market want to have. Same like AVM routers. Software good, Hardware obsolete before start selling.
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God d*** it! I’ve been holding off for sooo God damn long buying the ds920+. No more media NASes from synology anymore?
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So i will keep my 920+…
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So how is this different then the DS1522+ except for 1 hdd slot less and 2 less RJ45 ports?
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I will keep on with 920+. Thnx Synology !
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Any chance a 423+ will still come out with an integrated gpu? Still hoping they will at least still steer that one towards the prosumer market.
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Voting with my wallet and not supporting this CPU. It has been said a million times: This is not a “pro-sumer” device. Not even the bare minimum, but a major step back. Useless
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Glad I purchased the 920+ just a couple months ago when Amazon had a price drop on it.
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Finally pulled the trigger a few months ago on a 920+ – glad I did now.
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Glad I kept my 920+, I’ll wait and see if they improve the next generation without required network adapters or HDD restrictions.
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With this CPU selection (and the DS723+ previously mentioned) is there any “prosumer” synology nas left or expected to arrive in their portfolio that can be optimized as a plex server? Or can we expect Synology === AMD from all corners from now on?
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Disappointing with regards to transcoding. However as I have no need for transcoding thanks to every client device supporting everything via Direct Play these days I don’t *think* it will be an issue. Having said that it might mean Plex is slower for things like thumbnail generation? ????
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I have a ds418 and am looking to upgrade. I was excited about this offering but i basically use my NAS as a backup (3-2-1, right) and a Plex server. The removal of a dedicated GPU pushes me back to the ds290+
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???? – FREE VIRT GIRLS CHAT ????????p????
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Good thing i snatched 920 a few month ago, since my case is for multimedia server ????
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I waited to upgrade to the 923, but no integrated gpu is a deal breaker, no matter how much I like everything else. What on earth were they thinking sticking that amd proc in there??
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Boo hiss! Disappointed in this CPU.
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FIRST!
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I currently run a DS1621+ and DS1821+.. Giving the price of electricity, I’ve been toying with the idea of downsizing, to 3 smaller 2-bay NAS… 1 for VMs, 1 for Media storage and a 3rd for backup.. but I have 2 requirements, 10GbE and NVMe, and really QNAP TS253D is the only option, but if Synology do offer the 10GbE mini card, then they have already sold 3 of these 😛 (note I used a seperate NUC for streaming).
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OK, so at least next NAS dilemma is over, 723 and 923 will take AMD subaverage CPU for next 3 years; future owners should be watching over electricity bills since this AMD sucker is a high idle power consumer.
It’s not only about torpedoing Plex HW transcode, but also nitpicking on NIC type, ignoring use of NVMe drives as volumes, blocking USB peripherals, shrinking compatibility support for non-Synology disk drives and attempting to kill 3rd party community support. I expect 723 and 923 to experience even more limitations with respect to the qualified disks through DSM updates/patches.
In one hand, I’m glad I’m still using Synology and not defecting to QNAP which is PoS on it’s own but this could drive off a large part of perspective Plus model buyers.
My DS918 has a working 2.5GBe connection through Realtek USB/Eth adapter which usually reach 250-260 MBps; dual NVMe drives are mounted as mirror volume for app (Plex/Docker) app partition.
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Well, as a QNAP user, I was hoping to switch but having no GPU killed this for me… This is a backward step from 920+ as it offered one. It would be interesting to hear how the 923+ compares 920+ on decoding or GPU accelerated tasks and VM. What’s sad is I’m probably not alone as QNAP has screwed the pooch with their “security” and software – I don’t want to tinker or spend hours figuring out how to secure my NAS and turn off all the “features” because it will compromise *facepalm*. Also, saying a 4-bay is business is focused, makes no sense if you have a lot of media… I am wondering if they will have two versions, one with no GPU and one with GPU in the 4-bay chassis. Anyway, thank you for this update, it helped me decide.
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Does a lack of an GPU affect surveillance performance?
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Good bye Synology!
Qnap has been ordered
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Still 1gbps Ethernet? Synology, are you kidding me?
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Thanks for the news about the DS723+. Sad to hear that there won’t be a chip with imbedded graphics on it, so I guess that I will either have to wait for the DS923+, or buy the DS920+.
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it’s a good thing I bought the TS-464 and didn’t wait for the new Synology NAS. I hope I don’t regret this decision in the future when I get deadbolted xD
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I was on the fence 920+ vs 923+. I went ahead and jumped on the 920+ when it went on sale a few months ago and I’m glad I did. Sounds like the 923+ will likely use the ryzen. No embedded graphics is a deal breaker for me. I really want 10gbe but it’s not as important as the embedded graphics. And quite honestly I’m very impressed with the celeron, it sure sounded underpowered based on the specs, but it’s a real workhorse. It does everything I ask of it and never bogs down. Everything is snappy. Looks like I’ll just run this 920+ for 5+ years and check then if Synology finally got their act together and understands what their home users want.
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AMD ???? NOOOO
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Is there any indication of what the price will be on the DS723+.
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which Synology NAS would you recommend for just backup of Data , Including Pictures and Videos. I wont be using it to run any applications or programs…thanks
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No decoders = no purchase… This day and age i would expect new NAS lineup to have AV1 decoders to be included and main marketing point.
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My only hope is for the 223+ and 423+ to come with embedded graphics and NVMe support. No home user needs the extension bay that the 723 and 923 bring, so it would definitely make sense to separate the home and business product lines
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So disappointing…Whats the point of buying a new Synology? Why are Synology NAS hardware so underpowered?
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I can’t believe Synology has made this mistake ! No igp… Among the x22 and x23 models, none of them has an igp ? I will keep my DS920+ …
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So… less Cores, no GPU and high power consumption. For me seems better the ds720+ for all these 3 reasons, the most important the high powe consumption compared to the ds720+
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Downgrade to non-plus series for me. 2 cores and 4 threats, 2-4 Gb Ram. Interesting how this will perform with docker and vmm setups. Delicately saying not worth upgrading from 720+, at least knowing this now. That’s my summary unless the price is half of the previous 720+. The last real upgrade of 720+ is DVA1622. I wonder if they clone the same specs to 923+.
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Great video again! I have bought the ds720+ last year with 2 bays and 2x1gb ports. I have a small office with 3 pcs working from the nas as smb file folder so everything is stored on the nas and with mapped folders we work on any pc. May I ask so the transfer speed to read the files is limited to 100mb/sec due to 1gb lab port correct?? If I buy a 10gb nas I will run my files on the synology faster because I do have 2,5bgb lan ports on my pcs?? So it will be 2,5 times faster?? Or the lan ports is for out of the sight use??
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Very disappointed with the CPU…
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My my my … So still no 2.5 gigabit, still no hdmi out, worse transcode.
It seems almost an Apple like hubris.
QNAP it is then!
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That’s crap…..
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1 day too late 🙁 could have bought a 920+ yesterday for a good price but I was curious about the 923+. But with the R1600 in the 923+ I preferred the 920+. I guess I have to wait for Black Friday then.
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I was looking forward to this NAS, or the 923+. Reading this there is no gpu in both of them, a better option would be the 720 or 920. Does their own DS video station app need transcoding?
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Any idea if there will be a 1 bay NAS out as well? DS123j?
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1Gbe AGAIN?! LOL! I’m so glad I switched to Asustor.
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No thank you. AMD has some good low powered CPU’s with GPU. This chip is a downgrade. QNAP and Terramaster is starting to look good.
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Sick of Synology and their shenanigans. I love the Synology OS and ecosystem, but my parts will be here this week for a TrueNas build. $300 for a system with dual 10Gbe and no limitations or waiting.
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I’m a committed Synology user for the last 10 years and this coupled with the hard drive compatibility issues will finally see me cross over to QNAP.
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No embedded graphics no interest. Synology can feel damn lucky QNAP can’t get their crap together and gets hit with randsom and security issues on a monthly basis. Essentially being no option as well, even when they stomp all over Synology,if we talk pricing and hardware. Better luck next year Synology. I really hope nobody buys this trash. Poor Rob, another year as well with the same DS920+ compare and relevance vids. You love to see them
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Another downgraded pathetic product from Synology.
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Will be great, maybe a glitch for the Plex-users but for all us others, just mainly using SMB and such will this be a great upgrade. Still pleased with my old 918 though, think I’ll run it for some more years, but after that, at least 2.5 GBit will be a thing to have for me.
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Thank´s 😉
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Jeez dude. Synology can’t read the room
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Is it confirmed to be R1600 and not other models in R1000 series?
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CPU AMD Ryzen R1600 and this CPU has no onboard encoders or decoders at all.
Bye PLEX.
Another stupidity as QNAP did with their model TS-673!!!
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This is terrible news for Plex transcoding on Synology, big downgrade compared to Celeron iGPU on the 920+. I’m sure there are benefits for other applications and efficiency, but it’s not like the Celeron CPUs were ever overburdened for typical NAS tasks.
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10GbE, aside this sounds like a downgrade ????
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Bye bye plex…..
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Have been patiently waiting for the 723+ or 923+. Happy to see some info is starting to come out! Look forward to your reviews once hardware is available
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I think for example smb would get better timing with 10gbe. That means smb would probably be a bit faster at transferring very small files. But i dont have 10gbe yet so i am not able to confirm that theory
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