The UGreen NASync Series is Coming to Kickstarter – Should You Back It?
IMPORTANT March 22 Update – The UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NAS Review is NOW LIVE, watch it HERE, read it HERE and learn about the Software HERE and HERE
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Arriving on Kickstarter very soon, the UGreen NASync series of devices is an incredibly bold move by the relatively small Chinese computer accessories brand. Arriving with some genuinely industry-challenging hardware, six different configurations, and a multitude of high-bandwidth external connections spread across them, and even rocking out a competitively priced desktop flash system, it sounds like the DXP series of devices is really aiming for the sun here! Today, I want to go through each of these systems that UGreen is promising, discuss the logic, perhaps, behind the choice of crowdfunding to fund the product, and try to help you decide whether this series of devices, coming hopefully later in 2024, deserves your data!
The UGreen NASync DXP Range Hardware Specifications
Ugreen is rolling out this new series of NAS devices across six different hardware revisions, which is quite unusual for a product being launched on crowdfunding but is understandable for an established brand. Clearly, Ugreen wants to present a very strong and confident front in this new arm of their hardware business (a great example of this would be looking at the brand Sabrent, who for a long time were chiefly associated with docking stations and storage cases but now have a comparatively huge presence in the field of SSDs and even memory). Each of the solutions that Ugreen is promoting here can be broken into the standard, plus, and pro series, with each device improving in storage capabilities, network capabilities, and internal hardware. Alongside the five hard drive-focused devices, there is also a dedicated desktop NVMe flash model, which benefits from the heightened internal and external hardware attributes of its larger siblings. That said, each of the tower starter models also features additional M.2 NVMe slots that have varying levels of bandwidth and speed allocation due to the choice between the three CPUs available: the N100, the Pentium Gold, or the Lakefield model and the mobile SoC i5 model. Let’s compare the specifications of each below:
| Specification | DXP2800
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DXP4800
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DXP4800 Plus
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DXP6800 Pro
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DXP8800 Plus
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DXP480T Plus
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kickstarter Launch | $239.99 | $359.99 | $419.99 | $599.99 | $899.99 | $479.99 |
| MSRP | $399 | $559 | $699 | $999 | $1499 | $779 |
| Operating System | UGOS Pro | UGOS Pro | UGOS Pro | UGOS Pro | UGOS Pro | UGOS Pro |
| CPU Model | N100 | N100 | 8505 | 1235u | 1235u | 1235u |
| CPU Brand | Intel | Intel | Intel | Intel | Intel | Intel |
| CPU Architecture | X86 12th Gen N Series | X86 12th Gen N Series | X86 12th Gen Intel Pentium Gold | X86 12th Gen Intel Core i5 | X86 12th Gen Intel Core i5 | X86 12th Gen Intel Core i5 |
| Cores/Threads | 4/4 | 4/4 | 5/6 | 10/12 | 10/12 | 10/12 |
| Memory (RAM) | 8GB DDR5 | 8GB DDR5 | 8GB DDR5 | 8GB DDR5 | 8GB DDR5 | 8GB DDR5 |
| ODECC Support | Supported | Supported | Supported | Supported | Supported | Supported |
| Expandable RAM (max) | 16GB | 16GB | 64GB | 64GB | 64GB | 64GB |
| Flash Memory (System Disk) | eMMC 32GB | eMMC 32GB | SSD 128GB | SSD 128GB | SSD 128GB | SSD 128GB |
| SATA Drive Bays | 2 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 0 |
| M.2 SSD Drive Slots | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 4 |
The UGreen NASync series presents a choice of CPUs across its range, tailored to different performance needs and price points. The entry-level Intel N100, featured in the DXP2800, is a mobile processor launched in January 2023, offering 4 cores and 4 threads with a boost frequency of up to 3.4 GHz. Its low 6W TDP suggests a design aimed at energy efficiency, with a production process size of 10 nm, denoting a relatively modern chip design. Here’s a comparison table for the Intel® Pentium® Gold Processor 8505, Intel® Core™ i5-1235U Processor, and Intel® Processor N100:
| Specification | Intel® Pentium® Gold Processor 8505 | Intel® Core™ i5-1235U Processor | Intel® Processor N100 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Product Collection | Intel® Pentium® Gold Processor Series | 12th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 Processors | Intel® Processor N-series |
| Vertical Segment | Mobile | Mobile | Mobile |
| Processor Number | 8505 | i5-1235U | N100 |
| Lithography | Intel 7 | Intel 7 | Intel 7 |
| Total Cores | 5 | 10 | 4 |
| # of Performance-cores | 1 | 2 | – |
| # of Efficient-cores | 4 | 8 | – |
| Total Threads | 6 | 12 | 4 |
| Max Turbo Frequency | 4.40 GHz | 4.40 GHz | 3.40 GHz |
| Performance-core Max Turbo Frequency | 4.40 GHz | 4.40 GHz | – |
| Efficient-core Max Turbo Frequency | 3.30 GHz | 3.30 GHz | – |
| Cache | 8 MB Intel® Smart Cache | 12 MB Intel® Smart Cache | 6 MB Intel® Smart Cache |
| Processor Base Power | 15 W | 15 W | – |
| Maximum Turbo Power | 55 W | 55 W | – |
| Minimum Assured Power | – | 12 W | – |
| TDP | – | – | 6 W |
| Marketing Status | Launched | Launched | Launched |
| Launch Date | Q1’22 | Q1’22 | Q1’23 |
| Embedded Options Available | No | No | No |
| Max Memory Size | 64 GB | 64 GB | 16 GB |
| Memory Types | Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s, Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s, Up to LPDDR5 5200 MT/s, Up to LPDDR4x 4267 MT/s | Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s, Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s, Up to LPDDR5 5200 MT/s, Up to LPDDR4x 4267 MT/s | DDR4 3200 MT/s, DDR5 4800 MT/s, LPDDR5 4800 MT/s |
| Max # of Memory Channels | 2 | 2 | 1 |
| ECC Memory Supported ‡ | No | No | No |
| Maximum Memory Speed | – | – | 4800 MHz |
| GPU Name‡ | Intel® UHD Graphics for 12th Gen Intel® Processors | Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics eligible | Intel® UHD Graphics |
| Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency | 1.10 GHz | 1.20 GHz | 750 MHz |
| Graphics Output | eDP 1.4b, DP 1.4a, HDMI 2.1 | eDP 1.4b, DP 1.4a, HDMI 2.1 | eDP 1.4b, DP 1.4, HDMI 2.1, MIPI-DSI 1.3 |
| Execution Units | 48 | 80 | 24 |
| Max Resolution (HDMI)‡ | 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz | 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz | 4096 x 2160@60Hz |
| Max Resolution (DP)‡ | 7680 x 4320 @ 60Hz | 7680 x 4320 @ 60Hz | 4096 x 2160@60Hz |
| DirectX* Support | 12.1 | 12.1 | 12.1 |
| OpenGL* Support | 4.6 | 4.6 | 4.6 |
| OpenCL* Support | 3.0 | 3.0 | 3.0 |
This processor supports both DDR4 and DDR5 memory, ensuring flexibility for users in their system builds. However, the N100’s single-channel memory interface and the absence of ECC memory support reflect its positioning as a budget-friendly option within the NASync lineup.
In terms of connectivity, the UGreen NASync devices offer a variety of options to accommodate different user needs. The series features USB 3.2 ports, with some models including front panel Type-C ports that support up to 10Gb/s transfer rates. High-speed networking is a highlight, with models like the DXP6800 Pro and DXP8800 Plus boasting dual 10Gb Ethernet ports, potentially offering a combined 20Gb/s network throughput when used concurrently. Thunderbolt 4 ports in the higher-end models further enhance the possibilities for high-speed external connections and daisy-chaining of compatible devices.
Storage flexibility is a key attribute of the NASync series, with models ranging from 2 to 8 SATA drive bays, catering to different scale requirements from personal use to more demanding business applications. M.2 NVMe slots are included for faster, more modern storage solutions, with bandwidth and speed allocations varying by model, dictated by the choice of the three different CPUs available. This tiered approach allows potential buyers to select a NAS solution that matches their storage size and speed needs without paying for unnecessary additional capabilities.
Who Are UGreen?
Ugreen, a brand that has been around in one form or another for more than a decade, is chiefly associated with power adapters, computer accessories, and generally providing solutions to connect one device to another. In recent years, they have gained a fairly enviable reputation, featuring on a number of prominent tech platforms with moderately high regard for their solutions. Ugreen is not the first largely computer accessory-related brand to decide to try its hand at their own NAS solution. Partway through 2023, we saw the affordable consumer laptop brand LincPlus take to crowdfunding to launch their own dedicated flash NAS system, the LincStation N1, which just started to receive at the start of 2024 to mostly positive responses. Ugreen first revealed their intention toward an in-house NAS system partway through 2023, and although the system has since seen a few specification changes and even a complete naming change from DXP to the NASync series, they have been quite outspoken at a few big marketing events. Probably one of the biggest that they attended, and in quite a prominent display, was CES 2024 right at the start of this year with a large stand, promoting the majority of their products but with a particularly large presentation on their NAS solutions. Once again, this saw quite universal coverage and, I guess, I can totally see why a user would opt for a Ugreen solution if they have had positive experiences with them in the past. However, why Kickstarter? Why crowdfunding?
Why Would An Established Tech Brand Choose to Launch on Kickstarter?
It is a really good question! If a brand already has a long-running history of product distribution via normal retail outlets such as Amazon and Newegg, why would they suddenly choose to use crowdfunding to sell their new and ambitious product? 2023 and 2024 saw a huge number of new private NAS solutions arrive on the market via crowdfunding. Alongside LincPlus mentioned earlier, there was also the ZimaCube system from SkyWhale. This featured specifications not dissimilar in configuration to the Ugreen NAS systems. However, SkyWhale had two previous successful crowdfunding campaigns under their belt, and therefore it seems quite natural that they would opt for this model in their third release.
Discussing this with numerous brands in the past, the main reasons outlined to me have been the following:
One, crowdfunding allows relatively small and lesser-known brands to ascertain the level of popularity and engagement that they might achieve for a product prior to a formal release. If they promote a system’s capabilities (both hardware and software) and engagement is low, this allows them to not allocate large budgets that they can ill afford to a project that may perhaps be doomed to failure.
Two, a number of relatively small Chinese brands have difficulty forming marketing, distribution, and engagement with Western audiences. Not necessarily for reasons of language barriers either; this is the days of Google Translate, of course! Mainly, this comes down to understanding Western audiences, marketing on Western-focused social media platforms, and even understanding the requirements that that audience and its level of technological understanding need addressing. For a Chinese manufacturer to use crowdfunding platforms, they not only do it to garner money from the audience for their product but also to take advantage of an established marketing system, tools, and third-party supported social distribution that they neither have nor 100% understand. This can often lead to the crowdfunding campaigns perhaps being a touch overzealous in the marketing of a product that for them they do not understand implicitly, but this is certainly an allure for smaller Eastern companies to be able to distribute their product globally to a high degree of success.
Predominantly, those are the two main reasons that I find explained to me by Eastern brands that utilize the crowdfunding model to promote their product. I have both good and bad stories of server products going through the crowdfunding machine (read the full article here and watch the full video here on NAS Compares for more details on individual cases), but I do think there is a positive argument for why Eastern brands utilize crowdfunding to promote their products.
How much will the UGreen NASync Series Cost and When Will It Launch?
The UGreen NASync series is poised to make a notable entrance into the NAS market with a range of devices that cater to different storage and performance needs. With the Kickstarter launch prices set attractively at $239.99 for the entry-level DXP2800 and scaling up to $899.99 for the high-end DXP8800 Plus, UGreen is competitively positioning its products. The mid-range DXP4800 and DXP4800 Plus are tagged at $359.99 and $419.99 respectively, while the specialized NVMe-focused DXP480T Plus is introduced at $479.99. Post-crowdfunding, the retail prices, also known as the Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP), are expected to be significantly higher—almost doubling for some models, like the DXP2800 with an MSRP of $399 and the DXP8800 Plus which will retail for $1499. This pricing strategy not only provides an incentive for early backers but also underscores the value proposition of getting in early on the Kickstarter campaign. Nevertheless, THIS IS CROWDFUNDING and therefore not the same as buying from your usual retail outlet, be aware. UGreen is tapping into the growing buzz of middle-ground solutions between turnkey options from Synology/QNAP and BYO/DiY options that retire time and knowledge to build. If you are on the fence, there isn’t a tremendous rush, as crowdfunding officially begins on March 12th (see link below). We will be keeping an eye on this one as the weeks go on!
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Is there a way to access the nas server from outside?
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Mine is showing up tomorrow. We will see what happens
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Mine is showing up tomorrow. We will see what happens
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If it is the retail version, would you recommend to buy? (Since the price in south-east Asia is very competitive with around 300 pound)
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is it possible to ssh-connect on the system?
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DXP6800 Pro, with 6x2TB Ironwolf SSD’s plus 2x4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe’s + 64GB RAM. Set up single storage pool w/ 6 SSD’s (12TB, 8TB usable). Updated to newest FW. Rebooted a couple of times. Problem – in Storage Manager, there is no option to add SSD Cache. Should be found by clicking the 3 dots to the right of the storage pool. That pull-down menu does not list SSD caching at all. Further, under Hard Disks it shows the 2 NVMe drives and says they are both “normal”. Are these NAS incompatible with Crucial P3+ NVMe’s?? This is frustrating.
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If I just use it as aNetworkdrive with two NVMEs for writing and reading cache + HDDs, and turn anything else off, make it not reachable, I should be fine? Or is the certificate breach a problem still?
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Don’t work with seagate exos 18 16tb hdd!!!!!!!!
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Please explain how you disassembled the server casing. I removed the rubber caps from the back and unscrewed the 4 screws, but I still cannot remove the server casing. I want to replace the UGREEN disk with another one and install a different OS. Video Chapters 19:24 – Internal Hardware
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That power draw is horrendous
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Any idea how can I install UGOS back to my NAS? on ugreen downloads all I can get is .img files but I don’t know how to load it to the m.2 drive
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I got my DXP4800+ a few days ago (as of this post) and while the default software looks more polished, I’m now struggling with network speed issues (facepalm). Latest software version is not helping. Goes full throttle for a few seconds, then it drops to a crawl (kb/s) I may have to give a 3rd party software a go at this rate. But I knew what I was getting myself into, so it’s just annoying, not game breaking xD
Can’t say the same for innocent people who only wanted an off the shelf experience though.
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Will I be able to use the thunderbolt connection to transfer files from my drobo to the urgreen?
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hello I’ve been wondering if I you could tell me if the the backup program can delete the photos of my iPhone, once they are uploaded to the NAS through wifi?
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Been seeing a lot pop up with this new company. Just nervous with new companies that they might end up like DROBO and then you are stuck with no more service or updates.
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That is splendid, but can a dentist sponsor you and fix the grill? What is it with people from the UK always having fucked up teeth.
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Hi, i think it’s a great device, but i have two u.2 server ssd Micron and Intel, can they be used with this NAS?
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I’ll stick with Synology
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绿联真帅！期待在中国也能买到
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Man I just built my own NAS and didn’t even know about this thing. I wish I did.
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UGreen is a Chinese company. If you don’t mind them spying on you, go ahead guys.
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The SD card is useless if you’re using a NAS like a actual NAS
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TrueNAS Scale compatibility was my sticking point. Looking at other videos that does not seem to be an issue. Ordered it from the kickstarter. Will pair it with 4 16GB Ironwol Pro (don’t need more than that) and 2 4GB NVMe drives. Will just need to figure out the RAM specs so I can bump RAM to 64GB.
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I have 4 Synology’s. This looks very polished with DDR RAM and a 10G NIC! I upgraded my RAM and NIC in my 1621+ and 1821+ to 32GB RAM and 10G
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Unproven Synology clone late to the party.
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Can it run unraid?
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Will the final released version of the Ugreen NAS’s have any different hardware or other parts inside might be different than these Kickstarter versions?
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Once again Youtubers not knowing wtf they are doing. You mention your dd “benchmark” not being cached, but it is.. That’s why your first two measurement are significantly slower; they are the real Q1T1 read speed and why copying between the drives is similarly slow. Did you really think solid state drives needs a few seconds/runs to “warm up” first, lol? Fast NVMe needs more than QD1 to achieve max sequential performance, which makes dd a terrible benchmark for them.
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1000th like! (if I’m to believe YouTube.)
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hi thanks for clearing up if the mobile app will automatically upload your photos to the Nas or you will have to do it manually… thanks for clearing that up again. thanks for all your reviews. keeping us up to date on the UGreen Nas, it’s very informal. thanks again.
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Your main camera is the only thing you need
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I would love to see ZFS on these NAS
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Great stuff, Robbie. Do you know whether they will offer something like DSM’s surveillance station and automatic sync of selected folders on PC like via Synology Drive? If they promise these two, I’m on board. Tired of waiting for Synology to catch up with more modern CPUs
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I agree with you on two factor security being key. I am going to get a unit ones your pleased. I am 84 years old, Physicist, am spend 54 years working on Eglin AFB.
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What are the physical dimensions?
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I was interested in the 4bay or 6bay options… The 3dP OS capability does not look important compared to their inability to provide delivery to some countries on the planet *apart from two (2!)*… That, also coupled with a strange KickStarter-only nice price, looks like another blatant cashgrab, like several other KickStarter projects.
This is definitely not befitting a company with more than 10yrs presence on the market – it creates a bad precedence for their future product lines and it is a valid reason for many people to stay away .
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What are some good alternatives for DXP4800 plus from Synology? I like synology better and would like to put my money in who is in the industry for a longer period?
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I know the constant use of the word “Utilised” is intentional – to cater to American audiences’ distorted English. But it does grate!
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I’m interested in the 8 bay variant as I currently have a 4 bay synology and when that fills up I’m going to need more bays. Im hoping for something where I can still slowly upgrade the storage one drive at a time like the synology. Im wondering if the OS or an alternate one can support that since this seems a better value than getting a synology 8 bay.
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Looking at the KS page, it seems this is only shipping to USA & Germany, so can’t actually back it in the UK
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Phenomenal review. Being the first time considering buying a nas what is your opinion on buying this or something else instead?
I want to finally centralise my file system but it does become incredibly confusing.
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Does anyone know the idle power consumption of the just SSD version?
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the 40% early bird discount is what got me to back this product. I have a Ryzen 2700x from a prior system of mine that is mostly sitting unused. I would just need need a new a case and motherboard, preferably RAM as well, but being able to lock in $600 for a six-bay NAS is incredible.
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I want to see the review of the DXP8800 Plus please.
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With the photos backup from the phone, does it allow you to move the photos from your phone to the nas and then allow you to remove the photo from your phone without removing it from the nas ? I can’t recall if the terminology for this is a backup or a sync or something else.
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The move here is to put truenas scale on it and call it a day, probably makes a perfectly competent truenas box, and you get all of the features you could ever want, probably more performant too
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Your are not reviewing the 4800 but the 4800 Plus.
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33:30 38:11 These are not beta issues.
UGreen NASes were manufactured for a non-English market and did not successfully sell. Their kickstarter is a well-veiled fire sale; project -rewardees- backers beware.
Nice video ???? great YT channel. Thank you.
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5 core? 6 threads??? How, what, I’m so curious what is under the hood of that CPU
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6 Bay for 600 bucks is so tempting that I might just spring for it. This was a fantastic in depth review and I greatly appreciate you making it!
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I like this NAS, but compared to the Synology that uses a 12cm fan that is easily replaceable, the ugreen uses a rather custom fan that can be potentially hard to replace if it fails
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Any Statements/Info about a Container App and (K)VM? Why else have an i5 in the NAS
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Would there be any benefits/possibilities of running XPEnology bootloader on this platform (i5 gen12) and boot DSM 7 ?
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Question: Have you enable jumbo frames on your OS NIC settings? Thx
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Hi! Does anyone know if UGOS (and the NAS box) will support “surveillance cameras” – and if so, does it come with perpetual camera licenses and if yes on licenses, how many? Thanks much … love the NASCOMPARES channel! 🙂
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Why does the spec sheet list that the 2 bay and 4 bay use 32gig EMMC OS drives? I won’t buy devices that use soldered EMMC storage.
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Why the hell they only send to USA and Germany ?!
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Fuck it. I just backed the 8 bay model. I bought my DS918+ for $547.99 in 2019, so hardware wise, the 8 bay is an absolute steal for $899. I will probably just throw TrueNAS Scale / Unraid on it anyway. Hopefully these issues you’ve had doing that are ironed out by the actual release.
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Thanks for this. Not sure how I missed the boat about that 40% discount but that alone has gotten me very interested in this, so it seems I have less than 24 hours to decide if I want to pull the trigger or not.
For that price with that hardware, I’m considering just getting the 8 bay and sitting on it a while until I can get good prices on drives and give them time to sort out the software etc. or reverse the decision about voiding the warranty if you install another OS. It’s completely unusable for me without Docker anyway, as I do everything with Docker Compose.
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Amazing review as usual!
Regarding mobile app photos backup, does it allow you to choose which folders on phone to backup? Or does it simply back up everything?
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This is amazing!
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Do these units support RAID?
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How does the mobile app work for multi user? For example, I want to backup my photos, but also allow my household members to do so as well from mobile app. If they are not admins, will they be seeing everything I’m seeing in the app as well?
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The Synology NAS is absolutely noiseless
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*Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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*Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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Just wanted to say “thank you” for all of your videos. They were very helpful in my latest NAS upgrade, which I documented and gave you a reference for: https://youtu.be/_hoyGx9zVxE?feature=shared
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Would love for them to reach out to you for consultation on their software – of course, with applicable consulting fees! – so they can make this in to a great competitor in the marketspace. Thanks for the rundown!!
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Thanks for the review always appreciated. Very disappointed by Ugreen policy to limit starter to Germany and the US. Why many people are getting test units for free outsides of those 2 countries, but was refused to subscribe
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Does anyone know if the ones sold during the kickstarter early bird pricing are prototype version or will they be the retail finished version? I emailed them but they don’t seem to want to respond.
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This UI looks almost 1:1 for Synology DSM. I’d love to get my hands on an OS package and compare it to a DSM update package to see if it is the same, or if they’ve simply tried to clone DSM’s look and feel for their OS. If it’s the former, and there’s no licensing agreement between UGreen and Synology, I imagine this product may be dead before arrival.
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by chance does anyone know if this kickstarter is going to be able to be delivered to the UK? I’ve seen contradicting info
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If you don’t like baseline features being in the app center, you’re going to hate the way Synology are going as they are moving exactly in that direction
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Is this NAS generally suitable for first time users? Or will it just be a major pain due to e.g. lack of configuration tutorials and generally the not fully developed OS? The early bird price is of course very compelling, but I am not really sure how much hardware is required for it to run smoothly.
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Thanks for this insanely in-depht review! I’m also planning to buy one of these NAS systems (probably the SSD only system).
Do you have any information on compatibility with MacOS Time Machine Backups?
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I love your review. Thank you!
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They really need to be ok with people just wiping this and running unraid on it.
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You couldn’t find any way to sideload Plex for a prelim test…. I’m sure it’s running on some basic Linux distro and you can find Plex compatible for all of them.
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If they add a few as certain functionality and improve security and 3rd party support (PLEX and such). Also if they offer something similar to Synology SHR raid configuration I would definitely consider switching from Synology.
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Can you do a guide to HDDs? E.g there are currently several 22TB or 20TB HDDs that have basically the exact same specs on paper, using the same technology yet arte vastly differently priced.
E.g. the Toshiba MG10 is where I live consistently a lot cheaper than preatty much the exact same models from WD or Seagate. (320 USD vs 400USD)
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To be on the safe side, the hardware is absolutely top for the price, but I would install Unraid as software. I know that other operating systems are not supported out of the box, it will void the warranty (however they want to determine that when using a different systemdrive) and also needs a change in the bios. But Unraid should be able to run on it without any problems, right?
Could you maybe even test it? I’m sure some people would be interested. But if you can’t, for example for partnership reasons, that’s fine too.
Best regards! 😀
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A few questions, does it come with 3.5 to 2.5 inch adapters? Also do you have the 6 bay model? curious about the size of the PCIE x4 expansion slot, wondering if one can shove a GPU in there
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I’m seriously regretting my QNAP TS-464 purchase 16 month ago. It looks like Ugreen have done an initial good job. It looks a smart thing, probably the best looking box out of all of the competition if it’s on show. The SD slot, brilliant addition, I don’t regularly use SD cards, but sometimes I do get client video footage on SD cards, and it would be great to just dump straight to the NAS.
Finally, a NAS that has easy access for the RAM and NVME slots, the TS-464 isn’t too bad as you just pull the drive bays to get access, but my hands aren’t great and I struggled to get RAM and the NVMe’s into the slots; the access panel is great, I remember the days laptops had them and upgrading the RAM and drive was a 5 min job. It’s also great to see the OS being an actual removable drive, so if the drive fails, or you need more space for apps etc, you can upgrade it, big thumbs up there, it should increase the life span of the NAS, as I’m sure over the years the OS will get larger.
Onboard 10Gbe is a massive plus, but it needs to be true 10Gbe, 700-900mb/s transfers realistically, otherwise work on a solid 5Gbe the is consistently 500mb’s. I’ve added the 10Gbe NVMe addin card to the TS-464, in hindsight a waste of time and money due to PCIe lane limitations that I didn’t fully understand when I bought the NAS, the best transfer speeds I get is 270-500mb/s (more often than not the lower end of that range), the 2.5Gbe is also great too rather than 1Gbe. How I’ve got my networking set up is, all my containers use the 2.5Gbe port and 10Gbe is restricted to video editing PC interaction.
Software – 100% agree on the UI font, it’s awful, and akin to the 90s/early 2000s, it certainly isn’t on brand with Ugreen branding, on their website they use Poppins font, why wasn’t that used? A modern on brand font needs to be used to fit the overall look of the NAS. The transfer status definitely needs to be in window as well as in the main Tasks menu, QNAP and Synology both have a status icon on the window you started the transfer in, with a popout for all current tasks, including remotely started tasks. Custom folders for media definitely needs to be enabled. The OS definitely has a Synology feel about it, rather than QNAP, I think it’s wise for Ugreen to go for something in between, I’m use to QNAP’s QTS, I find Synology’s OS a little too simplistic, but something in the middle would be nice for the average user. For all the flaws in the software, the good thing is it is software and can be improved with each update, more important is the hardware is right, and I think overall they are offering a far better hardware package than anyone else.
Regardless of the current state and we know it’s not finished, if Ugreen really are serious about getting into the NAS game, this and future products really could shake up the turn key NAS market, I honestly think QNAP and Synology isn’t always the best value for money, and often their hardware choices on stunted their NAS’s.
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The ability to us TrueNAS or another opensource NAS OS is a deal breaker for me. I do like the hardware but the OS is just missing too much to day to day operation.
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0:27: ???? Exploring the beta version of UGreen NAS software with its features, improvements, and limitations.
3:59: ⚙️ User-friendly NAS software interface with familiar layout and intuitive controls.
7:56: ???? Overview of UGREEN NAS UGOS Software Beta features and controls.
11:38: ???? Efficient file management and performance testing capabilities on UGREEN NAS UGOS Software.
15:33: ???? Review of multimedia features including playing video files and viewing photos within the web browser.
19:57: ⚙️ AI models in the photo app are comprehensive and beneficial, despite being limited to one default directory.
23:45: ???? Importance of security measures in preventing ransomware attacks and unauthorized access.
28:03: ???? UGREEN NAS UGOS Software offers various support options, including remote access and offline access point.
32:12: ???? Evaluation of UGREEN NAS UGOS software beta version, including mobile application functionality.
36:05: ⚙️ Efficient photo browsing, sharing, and facial recognition on mobile application.
40:03: ⚙️ Review of UGREEN NAS software beta version highlights need for security enhancements and ongoing SMB performance optimization.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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I really hope they change the font of the interface from Times New Roman ????
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I was actually about to buy my first Nas Synology ds224+ after I saw Ugreen Nas device . I changed my mind because it has better 2.5g and good cpu .
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After seeing this, I’ll definitely not use this OS. It would be really interesting to see how unraid or TrueNAS runs on these machines. Also a point would be power consumption on different OS, c states and stuff…
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This thing looks like an investment thats has the potential to grow with the demands of the average user thats looking for basic backup & storage features. For more sophisticated users this won’t do. Packed with this hardware this thing neds a docker ui and some hypervisor.
At least now you have a way to generate more content as udates for this OS hit the device.
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I am going to make the purchase based on the hardware specs and Price. Will use as a backup to the back until the software matures
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You have now done 5 videos on this Chinese spyware/vaporware/malware product …..give it up until its released. I don’t trust Ugreen with either the way they have launched this or the security of the product against CCP interference. All they have done with Kickstarter is make themselves look dodgy as F*ck….they look like they are hiding things …. then we can talk about how they wheeled out their employees to shrill for them on YouTube …..
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11:02 that’s maybe on purpose to catch vibrations?
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So many CPU power and RAM only for sharing files and Photo manager?? No VM Manager or Docker is only disappointing.
Yes, its a beta, but if you want play in a big market you must bring more as a really nice phone app.
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Oh god
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???? Plus, since it’s not finished / could have bugs, you don’t want people calling “UHG! OS”
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Thank you, Robbie ????.
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I think they will offer Plex and Emby, BUT let’s stick to the current reality where these doesn’t exist. Do you think it would be possible to install and run Plex server through the console shell ?
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+Like just for saying 4 times 4 and not this stoopit “ex” fad that seems to have taken over most tech channels.
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Why o why does it seem that all chinese apps use Times as default font. It makes every UX look cheap and dated.
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I have never had a NAS before, so I am thinking about making this 6bay pro my first. Therefore, I really appreciate these detailed videos. Thank you.
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Thanks for showing how hard it is to install another OS on it…that was pretty extreme????
37-53W seems like a lot of power for a NAS…and this isn’t even the 1235u 6 bay I’d get ????
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When I look at this as a whole I see an unfinished copy of DSM. Except DSM has had 15 years of refinement and hardening. If they don’t get SSH enablement, 2FA, immutable snapshots, and a useful security scanner sorted I can almost guarantee they will be hit with a malware attack shortly after release. I had very high hopes for this device, even gave them my five bucks, but I’m becoming less sure as time goes on.
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The font type is not consistent in the interface, times new Roman is very dated. The menus do look like my dated DS214, and my old Asustor AS-202TE – now you may understand why I’m looking for a new NAS. The hardware is a real turn on, but the software does seem unfinished, but remember when I bought my Asustor they had only just entered the market, it was a leap of faith, and at times it showed, iSCSI on Synology was reliable, the same on Asustor, initially, was not. Ah, as I’m watching inconsistent fonts was just mentioned, thanks.
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Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anything on the use of containers. Without virtualization and containers, to run servers and keep them separate and secure, I would give it a hard no. Not that I don’t think Qnap Container Station doesn’t need work too.
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It looks like a Synology DSM poor ripoff.
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Lack of immutable snapshots is a dealbreaker for me. It’s too bad we don’t know whether they’re going to add it because I won’t buy one on the kickstarter if I don’t know if that feature is going to be there at release. It’s really your final backstop against crypto attacks. If I have to choose between a Synology with an old processor and a 12th gen i5 without immutable snapshots, I’ll take the Synology every time
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Is it real, the campaign is only for US and Germany? What about other EU countries? ???? Do they really want to sell this?
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Anyone other Americans here that think UGOS is too close to “uggos”?
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I like Synology software – with a bit of luck this UGREEN NAS will finally force Synology to put some decent hardware in their next “plus” generation – much better CPU, integrated GPU, 10GbE, more RAM – and also move away from their lock-in on RAM modules and HDD on their higher end gear. If not, as the software evolves, I might just have to make the move.
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Looks great, but UGREEN should stick with their stuff which are good. A Nas is a very complicated product to execute properly. I bought a second hand NAS from QNAP, and this thing is old; and still recieves some updates now and then. I do not see this happening with UGREEN. The cooling, i see no proper vents on the front. So it looks like it will suffocate a bit in warmer weather. Also, a little critisism; the splitscreen video for showing closeups is not really an addition, the right side image is a tad soft and less contrasty. The audio/video lag between the two shots is distracting more than it is worth your time editing this in. Your main camera captures it all just fine in my opinion.
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Can these NAS drives be used for storage and play of 4k UHD Blu-ray Discs? Would I need additional hardware to stream it over my home network through the newest Apple TV? I am quadriplegic and can’t change discs without help so this device could be very helpful and freeing for me. Thanks for reading.
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Does it support truenas?
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This misses the big one ….would you trust a Mainland Chinese company with being the center of your network? …Why do you think they only want their own OS ??? What else is in there????
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Will this get Docker and Plex? It looks like a really attractive option but my main uses would be just for Plex and maybe a minecraft server.
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I don’t think we really need yet another NAS OS, especially not a Chinese made one. So can you run Unraid or even better TrueNAS on these UGREEN boxes?
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watched the whole length of this review, thanks! … they need to sort the software issues out quick and at least with a video/streaming app too
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Thank you for your review. Is it possible to connect another computer directly to this nas via cable to open the disks?
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As someone completely new to this space I had a question. The transfer speeds that you showed over 10gbe was slow and again sorry for my incompetence when asking this but, thats transfer stuff over the network so wireless right? I have a mac studio that has a 10gb ethernet port could I plug the ethernet cable directly from my mac to the NAS and receive much fast speeds?
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Waited so long for you review! Huge fan of yours since I am new to this whole NAS topic and your videos are really helpful!
Is it in general possible to use this NAS (or any other) for hoarding data, especially videos etc and use a Mini PC as the Plex server that accesses the videos from the NAS?
My use case would be mostly for storing digital documents, photos and videos. Since they currently don’t seem to have a Plex app, I wonder if above solution would be possible.
I am currently cheering for this device due to the comparably great hardware/€…
Would rather use synology but cannot believe what kind of hardware they are selling compared to others
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If the only thing that we miss out on is the warranty but we still have the option to install 3rd party OS options. then I think that’s acceptable. worst case use it stock until the warranty expires then upgrade to a supported 3rd party OS (or sooner if you don’t care about the warranty)
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*Please note that The UGREEN NASync Series Kickstarter campaign currently only supports shipping to addresses in the United States and Germany.
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I hope we can get a stable version of TrueNAS Scale to run into this until the UGOS get better.
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Too bad there’s no AMD version. I boycott Intel processors.
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I’ve been saying for a while that I don’t understand why this processor hasn’t been more popular with these kind of devices. The 5 core 1P+4E benchmarks pretty close to the N100 overall, but it has a bunch more PCIe lanes.
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That mobile app is such a mess. Too many taps to see a photo
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Idle at 60w, it’s crazy! My old 12700k build with proxmox and a few powertop tuning idle at around 30w
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What are the dimensions of the case? Will the 6-bay and the 8-bay model be the same height?
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Looks good I am considering; however …… they should have concentrated on the hardware and put something like TrusNAS on, or allow you to choose an OS when purchasing. Companies shouldn’t keep trying to reinvent systems. Would have been relased quicker and less expensive without their custom software. I would be happy with Ubuntu server with ZFS. But would be overkill, so I should stick to repurposing old hardware I suppose.
I worry about the Drobo situation if they kill this project. Wouldn’t be great running out of date NAS software.
The hardware looks great and mature.
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Thx4ur hard worx! I will get my hands on 6bay variant as an update for my Qnap TS-452-D2-8G only as a secure datavault (raid5, snapshots and backup). So the kickstarter prize triggers me and i love to see further updates of ur intel.
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Great review. I’ll pass now and pick up a QNAP instead since I need Plex support sooner than later and there is no timeline on that, let alone everything else to do with its software. Thank you again!
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Thanks for the great in-depth review <3 I have a DS918+ and am considering to get a 6 or 8 bay solution. UGREEN is also fairly intriguing from a pure pricepoint pov (with the 40% KS discount). I don't seem to find any good alternative around a similar pricepoint these days, any thoughts from a pure $$$ pov?
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Would you buy it to run unraid? I’m looking to replace my aging home built nas.
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Would you buy it to run unraid? I’m looking to replace my aging home built nas.
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What is the direction of the fan in relation to the filter, from front to back or from back to front.
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What is the direction of the fan in relation to the filter, from front to back or from back to front.
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no ECC support no ZFS?
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so are UGREEN happy for you to take it all apart?… I can only imagine their faces as they watch this…
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The software looks a lot like DSM. We cant tell from this video (for sure, the deep dive will show more) but the visuals of the interface looks like DSM, so much in fact … maybe a bit copy/paste.
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I don’t like external PSU, I don’t mind the NAS itself a bit bigger.
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I feel like a n00b asking this, but is your video of the interface accelerated at all? I have a pretty beefy QNAP and it in no way responds that quickly.
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Commenting before watching: I’m really excited to see Ugreen break in to this space and see what they can bring to the table! I’ve been enjoying their designs in the charger and adapter sector. While I don’t yet see them as a name that’s synonymous with guaranteed quality and the highest standards, they do seem to be pushing competition in value delivered. I think that’s very exciting for us laymen!
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Commenting before watching: I’m really excited to see Ugreen break in to this space and see what they can bring to the table! I’ve been enjoying their designs in the charger and adapter sector. While I don’t yet see them as a name that’s synonymous with guaranteed quality and the highest standards, they do seem to be pushing competition in value delivered. I think that’s very exciting for us laymen!
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Commenting before watching: I’m really excited to see Ugreen break in to this space and see what they can bring to the table! I’ve been enjoying their designs in the charger and adapter sector. While I don’t yet see them as a name that’s synonymous with guaranteed quality and the highest standards, they do seem to be pushing competition in value delivered. I think that’s very exciting for us laymen!
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totally agree with you on the sd card slots, it always seemed weird to me how many off the shelf nases don’t have one when they seem to mostly advertise to photographers and other content creators who are mostly moving data from sd cards anyway.
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totally agree with you on the sd card slots, it always seemed weird to me how many off the shelf nases don’t have one when they seem to mostly advertise to photographers and other content creators who are mostly moving data from sd cards anyway.
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totally agree with you on the sd card slots, it always seemed weird to me how many off the shelf nases don’t have one when they seem to mostly advertise to photographers and other content creators who are mostly moving data from sd cards anyway.
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Can you swap the fan to something like a noctua?
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Yeah, I”m gonna stick with my Asustor.
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way too expensive
if you’re gonna put only 4 drives and an underpowered cpu in the machine just buy a 10 year old secondhand computer.
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I like to see new players entering the market. I feel like Symbology has become lazy in recent years and needs a kick up the bum (Low ram, 1GB ports, etc).
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Awesome review! Many thanks! ????Looking forward to the TrueNAS/Proxmox UGREEN video ????
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60W idle power consumption is a no go. This would cost 160€ in energy per year in germany. No wonder noone else is talking about the power consumption. If it stays like that i am out.
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60W idle power consumption is a no go. This would cost 160€ in energy per year in germany. No wonder noone else is talking about the power consumption. If it stays like that i am out.
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60W idle power consumption is a no go. This would cost 160€ in energy per year in germany. No wonder noone else is talking about the power consumption. If it stays like that i am out.
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At least it isn’t storaxa
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At least it isn’t storaxa
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At least it isn’t storaxa
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Biggest issue for me is it is a custom Linux kernel. From a Chinese company ????
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Biggest issue for me is it is a custom Linux kernel. From a Chinese company ????
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Biggest issue for me is it is a custom Linux kernel. From a Chinese company ????
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Wait they put drmos vrm on that thing ????
Hardware looks nice ,just software still need some work to become a turkey nas product
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Wait they put drmos vrm on that thing ????
Hardware looks nice ,just software still need some work to become a turkey nas product
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Wait they put drmos vrm on that thing ????
Hardware looks nice ,just software still need some work to become a turkey nas product
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The thing is, I don’t mind beta products for many uses, but my storage systems need to be solid. My current 3-drive NAS has been running for over 10 years.
I can’t see trusting an incomplete, crowdfunded solution. And, face it, the main reason for crowd funding is when the company doesn’t have the resources to complete the device without getting money up front. My conclusion is that either Ugreen really doesn’t have many resources or they are using crowd funding as a method of marketing.
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The thing is, I don’t mind beta products for many uses, but my storage systems need to be solid. My current 3-drive NAS has been running for over 10 years.
I can’t see trusting an incomplete, crowdfunded solution. And, face it, the main reason for crowd funding is when the company doesn’t have the resources to complete the device without getting money up front. My conclusion is that either Ugreen really doesn’t have many resources or they are using crowd funding as a method of marketing.
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The thing is, I don’t mind beta products for many uses, but my storage systems need to be solid. My current 3-drive NAS has been running for over 10 years.
I can’t see trusting an incomplete, crowdfunded solution. And, face it, the main reason for crowd funding is when the company doesn’t have the resources to complete the device without getting money up front. My conclusion is that either Ugreen really doesn’t have many resources or they are using crowd funding as a method of marketing.
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Let’s see if this “turkey solution” with their super confident OS works out of the box or not
Yep very confident on OS and restricted plus not very confident and raise as crowds funding … Odd
If it works really great then with the strict OS limitation might still be considerable
If it needs tons of user manual work to make it work and they are still playing stupid OS restriction policy to Dodge support ticket then sorry, skip
Thank you for reviewing this ????
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Let’s see if this “turkey solution” with their super confident OS works out of the box or not
Yep very confident on OS and restricted plus not very confident and raise as crowds funding … Odd
If it works really great then with the strict OS limitation might still be considerable
If it needs tons of user manual work to make it work and they are still playing stupid OS restriction policy to Dodge support ticket then sorry, skip
Thank you for reviewing this ????
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Let’s see if this “turkey solution” with their super confident OS works out of the box or not
Yep very confident on OS and restricted plus not very confident and raise as crowds funding … Odd
If it works really great then with the strict OS limitation might still be considerable
If it needs tons of user manual work to make it work and they are still playing stupid OS restriction policy to Dodge support ticket then sorry, skip
Thank you for reviewing this ????
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Ughhh….getting closer to having real ECC memory but still not there. ODECC is not for data retention. When are these manufacturers going to learn a NAS is for long term storage for so many. Would have bought into the kickstarter for the flash version if it supported true ECC memory. Would already have the Asustor flash version if it supported ECC memory.
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Ughhh….getting closer to having real ECC memory but still not there. ODECC is not for data retention. When are these manufacturers going to learn a NAS is for long term storage for so many. Would have bought into the kickstarter for the flash version if it supported true ECC memory. Would already have the Asustor flash version if it supported ECC memory.
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Ughhh….getting closer to having real ECC memory but still not there. ODECC is not for data retention. When are these manufacturers going to learn a NAS is for long term storage for so many. Would have bought into the kickstarter for the flash version if it supported true ECC memory. Would already have the Asustor flash version if it supported ECC memory.
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Is there a regular UEFI/BIOS that would allow to use an alternative NAS OS such as UnRAID, FreeNAS in conjunction with the USB port?
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Will they allow you to buy 2 units with ONE $5 deposit?
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I hear seagulls. More than the device. Hahaha
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Excellent video.i really like your videos. So what is ur suggestion..do the diy like i9 erying PROJECT or buy the ugreen nas 6 bay and wait for them to do some miracle to software or allow 3rd party O.S?
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im just about ready to transition from a 4 bay to an 8 bay so I think im going to snag the 8 bay for the discount and sit on it while things get ironed out. The price for that hardware is just too good that that price imo. Great review!
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That you have to disassemble the whole thing to get to the drive where the OS is installed is a big NOGO
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Already been burned by a Kickstarter NAS crowd funding, I lost a large sum of cash, be careful.
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I still don’t understand why UGreen needs to crowdfund this product…
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When you backup photos can you make it delete the photos on your phone once those are uploaded?
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Nice hardware specs, but now a total failure unless you live in the US or Germany. I was very excited initially, I was ready to order on the kickstarter, I need a new NAS now, but then found out if you now don’t live in those places then you have no idea when it will come to other regions. The RRP is not in the least competitive so unless you have loads of spare Dosh and don’t care about cost, you will choose a different vendor – Ugreen have no pedigree with NAS devices, they have no track record with NAS systems. I have tons of Ugeen devices, love them, but this NAS release is totally daft and a massive turn off. I will get the Terramaster instead, the 424 has good hardware, a sensible price, and a good pedigree, and if don’t like TOS I can replace with TrueNAS or Unraid, or Proxmox. I feel quite let down, especially as the restriction to US and Germany only appeared later.
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Thank you for the video.
I really like this product, and for me, a 40% discount to essentially be a public beta tester with such good hardware seems reasonable. I think we have to consider the price difference between the Kickstarter campaign and the recommended retail price (RRP). It’s unfinished, the OS still needs some work, but I think that makes the 40% price discount reasonable.
I mean, if we compare this to other NAS devices at the same price segment, we have to overpay for the software on those (bundled with really weak hardware). Although I still think (and I think I mention this all the time) that most of the software options other brands offer are still much worse than 90% of the open-source counterparts, but it is what it is. Most people like it for some reason. Although in my humble opinion, Synology is kind of the Apple of the NAS world. Until you show people that there are much better solutions, they are fine with something mediocre. Like… a usable Docker UI on any one of the NAS OSes?… Anyone?… They should just stop wasting development time on creating limited, useless “apps.” They are in the F league compared to the mature open-source solutions like Portainer, Yacht, heck even DockGE, which is like 4 months old with only a single main developer.
The only thing I really dislike in the Ugreen NAS lineup is the price difference between the 6 and 8-bay models. A 50% price increase for just +2 disk bays? For that $300 price difference, I can pick up a 6-bay USB DAS (for example from Terramaster) and double the number of my bays.
I have two questions, if you have some time. Does the fan in this model have a regular 3 or 4-pin fan connector, or is it something proprietary (like TerraMaster’s mini connector)? Just because with a 5-year life expectancy, it would be cool to be able to swap out the fan for something else in case it has any problems (like wearing out the bearings and starting to be louder).
Also, since you have experience with the TerraMaster F4-424 (Pro), which is probably the only comparable product to Ugreen’s 4-bay models at the moment (hardware-wise), and both have one large fan at the end, is there any meaningful difference regarding noise levels between the two? I don’t need exact measurements; I am just curious if you have any opinion on this topic.
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But, can it run Crysis? (AKA TrueNas)
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I was pretty interested but after I watched a Q&A video where they mentioned if you install any other OS they’d void the warranty… Nah. Currently considering a DIY NAS…
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0:12: ⚙️ Overview of the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS crowdfunding campaign and hardware specifications.
5:17: ???? Unique design with lockable bays, USB ports, and bold text sets the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 apart.
10:10: ???? Issues with tray sturdiness in NASync DXP4800 system despite overall sturdy build and ventilation.
14:59: ⚙️ Overview of design and connectivity features of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
19:43: ???? Exploring the internal components of a NAS device, including the motherboard, CPU, and SSD.
24:20: ???? Review of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 software features and client application for local network access.
28:32: ⚙️ User-friendly folder creation and management with comprehensive options, lacking advanced security features.
33:03: ????️ Exploration of geolocation data and AI photo recognition features in NASync DXP4800 NAS.
37:59: ???? Beta features include LED scheduling, language issues, and occasional Chinese notifications.
42:04: ???? Enhancements in system configuration backup and network settings reset needed for UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
47:21: ⚡ Comparison of data transfer speeds between two NVMe SSDs in UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
51:33: ???? Detailed overview of the network interface, hardware information, and app management on UGREEN NASync DXP4800.
55:45: ⚙️ Evaluation of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 prototype software and build quality.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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Can we get the measurements of the retail box it ships in?
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Not open to UK buyers!
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Too many variables and in beta to purchase or kick-start
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Just FYI, you used 10Gbe but kept the MTU at 1500. You should test with jumbo frames (9000 MTU).
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This looks pretty great for a first gen product not going to lie.
As long as they keep pushing good updates to the operating system, things should shape up to be a really great competitor. If they keep the price affordable people will 100% go UGREEN
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First of all, thank you for the detailed test of the hardware and software. I think you are the only yt who does such a great and detailed test, that’s why you got my subscription. I have been waiting impatiently for this video review. As I understand it, the hardware is great and the software is still in beta. Now I don’t know whether I should buy the 4800 plus or 6800 pro or the 480t plus. I want to use the Nas as a Plex Media Server, Portainer, VM, backup of my Apple devices. This should be my 1st Nas with which I don’t want to have any trouble for years. So I trust your suggestions and advice. Would appreciate some advice from you and thanks for the great work ????????????????????????
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All these new devices coming out will force sonology to innovate on the hardware side of things and stop being so particular with low end hardware. Maybe even lower their prices.
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I hope the final product will allow me to use ZFS instead of Btrfs.
Otherwise I could always disable the watchdog, enable UEFI boot and boot unRAID from a USB stick, I guess… ????
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I’m thinking of using the 2 nvme 4+4=8tb with docker and lancache with one of the 10gb nic. Then make a raid with the hard drive for my network share drive using the other 10gb nic.
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That’s a great review and the NAS is very very promissing. Finally seems like some competition for Synology and QNAP. May I ask if it would be possible to do a PLEX review with this device? I’m very curious to see how it performs. Thanks a lot and keep up the great work!
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Great fair review – shame its not available in the UK – Germany and US only. Im sure they will learn and go with third party OS surely.
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Not buying something that might be some day. I’ll check it out when its really for sale.
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Storaxa a ruined me on cheap Chinese hardware. Will not back another. Ever.
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That power consumption would absolutely kill my buying intentions if it stays that way.
Would love to see its idle power with Unraid and powertop.
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Do you know, if on the 6 bay and 8 bay Versions, the Thunderbolt on the front is to connect to the Computer direkt, so the NAS
can be used as a Storage pool, or is the thunderbolt port in front only for a external hard drive to connect?
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Great Review. What’s really a bummer is the idle power consumption of about 55w with 4 drives. That’s about 35w for the nas alone, which sums up to 300kwh a year. In Germany this alone costs 100€ on the energy bill for the nas alone.
Existing products like QNAP TS-464 needs about half of that in idle.
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I will have a hard time forgiving Ugreen for limiting launch (and discounts) to 2 countries. Just my POV.
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This is only available to the USA and Germany right?
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My 6 year old Synology DS1618+, populated with 6 Iron Wolf Pro 7200rpm drives, gets 733 MB/s write and 1026 MB/s read over a 10 gigabit network.
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Which way does the air travel through the system? Is it from rear to front or vice versa? The reason I ask is I suspect that I would assume that the air is coming in from the font and is blown out the back at which point the filter in the back is of no use.
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Hardware is awesome, but the software seems to need some time to mature. Voiding the warranty if you install an alternative OS is a bit disappointing.
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Man the UI looks very similar to Synology.
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For the SSD model review, I think the following would make your review stand out from the rest. Can you test RAM with speeds above 4800? Does it support XMP? Can it do 48GB sticks? What happens when you use 990 EVOs that only use 2 lanes of Gen 4, will all of them run at Gen 4 for speeds then? How well does thunderbolt 4 behave on Unraid. Just some points I think people would like to know, keep up the great work!
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1st. Thanks Robbie for this review!
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I suspect you meant “require”, rather than “retire”, in describing BYO/DIY units.
Great work ???? on this video.
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HyperRaid in Kickstarter is a SCAM. they took all the money and disappeared. Now the project itself disappeared from Kickstart.
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Hello, how about a more DAS-centric video/article? You did some DAS hardware reviews, but how about the software support (incl. filesystems and redundancy options) side?
I’m actually struggling to find a good option for my QNAP TL-D800C (used as a DAS, not as a NAS expansion). I’ve tried Storage Spaces, unfortunately can’t set it up with ReFS (yet?). I’ve tried OpenZFS on Windows, as I like its data integrity stuff; it still work in progress. SnapRAID… not sure about its hashing/parity on demand. Running a NAS OS (or something ZFS) on a VM? Would that work? It would have been nice to have the main options on the table, properly described with pros and cons.
What do you think?
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have you seen this unit yet ? Asustor Flashtor 6 FS6706T
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Even though I have backed Storaxa, I think it is a scam. I would give it a 9 out of 10 chance of being a scam. I just really want to believe in it. I also see mixed comments, even from pros like NASCompares, that it is still possible, so I give it a small chance that I will receive the box in the end. However, somebody noticed in the comments under one of Storaxa’s updates – in their update #7 “Team Hello” video, I see the same green desk as in the “Thunderbolt 22-in-1 Dock with High Security SSD + HDD RAID” Kickstarter project. Video “Noise Check (35-45dB)” from the campaign page. The “Thunderbolt” project looks like a scam since there have been no updates since January 2023. Now, what are the chances that two “different” Kickstarter projects from China about “Storage” (NAS/DAS) have very similar campaigns, probably the same workplace (or maybe they just coincidentally bought the same green working desk and other desks BTW also look similar), are different people, and one of them is a scam and the other is not? Ok they might be copying each other in behavior. But desk… OEM’s workplace?
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Surely you would have seen the amount of people saying they have been scammed by the thunderbolt before you made this video…
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I actually like the seagulls ????
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Storaxa is already late. They have promised delivery to start in April. Of course the campaign got more complex with the multitude of options, but still. It is a bad sign and people don’t seem to realize this.
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Very cool.
Great video
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