The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS Comparison
When it comes down to it, most users buying their very first network-attached storage device will end up choosing a 2-day device. A NAS was once a remarkable niche piece of hardware that most domestic/home users would rarely buy, but as time has gone on, the size of our data grew and the speed of our internet has increased tenfold, the desirability and affordability of owning your own NAS server for home or business have grown accordingly. Whether it is to run backups of all of your devices, host your very own Plex media server or create a bespoke and security-conscious surveillance NVR setup, NAS drives can often provide the answer to many of our data storage questions. The reason that many users desire 2 Bay NAS drives in 2022/2023 simply comes down to the fact that this kind of technology is a great deal more affordable and the hard drives that go inside have become exponentially larger (with most recent hard drives arriving at 20 and 22 terabytes available) for home and business users alike. Into this popular arena, Synology has introduced its brand new powerful 2-bay NAS, the DS723+. Arriving with some genuinely innovative changes to what is considered normal for a compact device such as this, the Synology DS723+ NAS serves as the follow-up to the almost three years older DS720+ released in summer 2020, and arrives with a lot of expectation behind it. Although very similar on the face of it, these two NAS have some distinct hardware differences that can be missed by the casual observer and if you are looking to buy the perfect Synology NAS 2-Bay this year, then chances are you have considered the DS720 + and DS723+ already. So let’s take a close look at these two NAS and figure out which one deserves your data.
What Can Both the Synology DS720+ and DS723+ NAS Do?
Of course, if you are going to go to the trouble of spending hundreds of pounds on a good network storage solution, whether as an alternative to cloud services like DropBox and Google Drive, or as a means of streaming all of your media, then chances are that you want to be doubling sure that it is going to be able to perform the tasks you need
- Both units feature x86 64bt processors (from AMD and Intel) to provide a good price vs hardware balance
- Both the DS720+ and DS723+ NAS support the full range of Synology DSM 7 applications (all included with your purchase)
- Both the DS720+ and DS723+ are constructed of plastic desktop compact chassis, thereby reducing power consumption, noise and heat generated
- Both can Stream 720p, 1080p and/or 4K media, with superior performance natively and mid-range performance in Plex
- Both the Synology DS720+ and DS723+ NAS support AI-powered photo recognition to a very high degree with the Synology Photos Application
- For Business users who currently enjoy the use of G Suite or Office 365, both of these NAS provide excellent means to backup your mass cloud accounts (as well as natively sync, dupe and configure rules on the fly)
- Both the DS723+ NAS and DS720+ NAS support snapshots, for more incremental and version-protecting failsafe in efforts to protect you from Malware and Ransomware attacks, by allowing multi-versioning storage history to browse through and restore
- Both units are DLNA certified so can be accessed, browsed and played from by popular DLNA devices, such as Amazon Firestick, Alexa, Google Home Roku Boxes, Apple TV, Bose, Sonos, iPads, etc, as well as connectivity between these platforms with IFTTT
- Both are multi-bay, RAID enabled devices NAS devices that support JBOD, RAID 0, RAID 1 and SHR (Synology Hybrid RAID), as well as supporting the very latest SATA based Hard Drives from brands like WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf, Western Digital UltraStar and Seagate EXOs media. Though the full extent of compatibility of the latest 20TB and 22TB HDDs varies officially
- Both units can be expanded too with the Synology using a DX517 (independent storage) to increase total available storage availability, as well as allow the partial and gradual population of media
- Both systems support Virtual Machine Deployment with the Synology VMM Hypervisor
- Both the DS723+ and DS720+ use and can be accessed equally by a multitude of mobile applications such as DS File, DS Video, Moments, DS Photo, DSCam and DS Music that are created by and constantly improved by Synology.
- Both NAS are completely compatible with Windows, Android and Mac systems, as well as acting as a bring between software platforms to share and distribute files for migration and file sync (with improvements in newer DSM 7 recently for Mac Finder file streaming and file pinning
- Both units can be used as a mail and/or business servers, providing excellent 3rd party CRM and first-party CMS systems, as well as the fantastic Synology collaboration Suite of applications Chat, Drive, Mail, Calendar, Office and Active Backup Suite
So, regardless of whether you buy the DS723+ or DS720+ NAS, you are going to have a remarkably functional NAS drive. But, let’s dig a little deeper into the differences between these two devices.
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Internal Hardware
Let’s face it, the CPU+Mmeory combo is one of the biggest and earliest reasons that many users have been comparing the DS720+ and DS723+, as Synology surprised all of us with its choice of internal hardware in their latest diskstation release. To give you a little bit of history, Synology has always (well, for at least a decade or so) presented the plus series of 2-Bay and 4-Bay solutions with an Intel x86 processor with integrated graphics on board (i.e an extra component that is designed to be better suited to graphical data tasks, rather than use the normal/typical power of the processor as a whole. Indeed, the Synology DS720+ NAS arrives with exactly that, an Intel Celeron J4125 Processor, 4 Cores, 2.0Ghz frequency that can be burst when needed upto 2.7Ghz and on-board Integrated graphics. At the time of release, this was pretty much the ‘main’ Intel Celeron that was in use in the NAS market and provided an excellent middle ground between cost vs power vs efficiency in a NAS (other brands providing the same). So, when discussions of a follow up to the DS720+ were beginning to be raised, many (myself included) assumed it would be another Intel Celeron inside (originally hypothesizing the N5105 or J6412). However, the confirmed CPU inside the DS723+ is the AMD Embedded Ryzen R1600, Dual Core, 2.6Ghz frequency that can be burst when needed to 3.1Ghz.
The fact that the AMD R1600 does NOT feature any onboard/integrated graphics is a blow for anyone that is going to be considering the DS723+ over the DS720+ for server side transcoding in Plex Media Server (either by choice or in the case of automatic conversion with HEVC/H.265). Now, before going any further, I need to highlight that the R1600 can DEFINITELY HANDLE 4K IN PLEX from Summer ’22 with the DS1522+ (I will cover this more later, but you can watch the video here), so if you are choosing between the DS720+ and DS723+ for use as a native playback media server in 4K and 1080p, the CPU choice here is not an issue and in many ways, the increased horse power will allow more resources to go towards media playback across multiple streams AND other NAS services. Let’s take a closer look at the base internal hardware of the DS723+ and DS720+:
| NAS Model | Synology DS723+ NAS
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Synology DS720+ NAS
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| CPU Model | AMD Ryzen R1600 | Intel Celeron J4125 |
| CPU Architecture | 64-bit | 64-bit |
| CPU Frequency | 2-core 2.6 (base) / 3.1 (turbo) GHz | 4-core 2.0 (base) / 2.7 (burst) GHz |
| Hardware Encryption Engine (AES-NI) | Yes | Yes |
| Memory | ||
| System Memory | 2GB DDR4 ECC | 2GB DDR4 non-ECC |
| Memory Module Pre-installed | 2GB X1 SODIMM Module | 2GB X1 SODIMM Module |
| Total Memory Slots | 2 | 1 |
| Maximum Memory Capacity | 32 GB (16 GB x 2) | 6GB (2GB + 4GB) |
Ok, so let’s break this down into the advantages that either one provides. The Intel Celeron inside the DS720+ NAS and it’s integrated graphics are definitely going to have their use. Tasks that require more advanced graphical techniques, such as encode, decode, QuickSync-supported tasks, viewing images that can be manipulated in the viewer and running of anything presented in HEVC/H.265 compression are going to benefit from the graphical toolkit present in the J4125 CPU. Also, the power use/efficiency of the Intel Celeron in 24×7 use is going to typically be lower in like-for-like use cases (with a TDP rating of 10W on the Celeron vs 25W on the R1600 – but these represent max usage/non-typical). Finally, the Intel Celeron in the DS720+ is a 4-core processor, double that of the R1600 at 2-core. 4 Cores means that you can spread those dedicated cores to other processes more effectively and present a larger degree of processing power to those tasks. Now, the DS723+ and it’s AMD R1600 does counter all of these points with some impressive strengths of it’s own. For a start, that much higher base and turbo frequency of 2.6Ghz > 3.1Ghz. This means that you have a much more powerful NAS at your disposal to get most other tasks done and if you are not focused on those graphical areas mentioned earlier that the J4125 favours, the R1600 is going to get most other tasks done quicker and/or have more resources to spread out to more users at once.
The fact the DS723+ R1600 CPU is a dual-core is a bit of a kick, but it does make up for this a bit with the fact it is 4 threads, which can be used as virtual CPUs in VMs and spread itself out more efficiently to multiple tasks than spreading cores would – less powerful, but more efficient. The R1600 CPU also opens up Gen 3 PCI lanes internally, allowing greater bandwidth to be afforded to the system’s internal chipset/hardware-services than the PCI Gen 2 lanes in the J4125 DS720+ (Gen2 = 500MB per lane, Gen3 = 1000MB per lane). This is likely how the DS723+ NAS can provide both a 10GbE optional upgrade (covered more later) and the two NVMe SSD slots (likely a higher gen/speed than those in the DS720+). Finally, let’s talk about memory! Both the DS720+ and DS723+ NAS arrive with 4GB of DDR4 memory, but even a casual glance shows quite alot of difference from this point! First off, the DS720+ can only be upgraded to 6GB maximum (CPU Recommended 8GB, but because Synology uses 2GB soldered memory on the DS720+, NAS Recommended maximum is 2GB+4GB = 6GB), whereas the DS723+ and it’s R1600 can hit 32GB of memory (over two slots, so 2x 16GB SODIMM) – That is ALOT of memory to play with! Additionally, the memory in the DS723+ is 3200Mhz (TBC!) and ECC (Error-correcting Code) memory that takes advantage of an additional on-board component that runs a checksum/parity-bit as data passes through the RAM at the beginning at compares at the end, repairing/healing data that might get corrupted in the write process (very caveman description, but it largely covers it). The memory in the DS720+ is 2666Mhz, non-ECC and 2GB of it is soldered to the board (only 1x upgrade slot). Business users and those running high volume and frequency databases are going to definitely see/want the benefits of that ECC memory, the scalability of it and the particular benefits of that R1600 Processor in the DS723+. The DS720+ is still, overall, the better multimedia choice in terms of the range of supported graphical services available, power consumption 24×7 and comparatively better value for money (It has been as low as £350-400 previously), but really the hardware inside the DS723+ is much more business focused (not an accident I am sure).
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Storage Options
So, this is going to be quite a short section! For the most part, the Storage capabilities and options that the DS720+ and DS723+ arrive with are largely identical. Both of them feature two SATA Bays of storage (which can be fully/partially populated), both support the traditional RAID configurations (RAID 0/1) as well as Synology Hybrid RAID, both support BTRFS and EXT4 file systems, both have m.2 NVMe SSD slots than can be used for 2280 SSDs for caching and both can be expanded by an additional 5-Bays of storage with the DX517. There is very, very little difference between the DS723+ and DS720+ in terms of storage. However…
| NAS Model | Synology DS723+ NAS
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Synology DS720+ NAS
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| Drive Bays | 2 | 2 |
| Maximum Drive Bays with Expansion Unit | 7 (DX517 x 1) | 7 (DX517 x 1) |
| M.2 Drive Slots | 2 (NVMe) | 2 (NVMe) |
When it comes to Hard Drive compatibility, the compatibility lists of the DS723+ and DS720+ are a little different. The DS720+ features several more compatibility drives (eg the likes of the WD Red 14TB Red Pro or Seagate Ironwolf Pro) that do not appear on R1600-powered 22/23 gene systems like the DS1522+. Now the DS723+ full HDD/SSD compatibility list is still unavailable, but newer generation devices from Synology released in the 2022 series and afterwards have been having an odd habit of not listing many 3rd party drives above 16/18TB (including their own HAT5300 drives and 3rd party Surveillance drives such as WD Purple and Skyhawk, and the enterprise tiered drives). Now, the argument could easily be that testing and certification are not full completed yet, but there is no avoiding that, as it stands, the DS720+ is seemingly compatible with more drive types. We have performed ALOT of tests on the DS1522+ (same architecture as the DS723+ and DS923+, but 5 Bays) with WD Red/Gold 18TB, 20TB and 22TB drives and found them to work perfectly, yet they do not feature on a compatibility list, so when you install them in your DSM 7.1 (DSM 7.2 in Q1 2023), you might see a brief alert from your system about using non-compatible drives on your Synology. Again, this is a very small point and every possibility that it will iron out in the messaging from the brand as the DS723+ establishes itself, but it is certainly a point worth highlighting.
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Ports and Connections
The external connectivity of the Synology DS723+ and DS720+ NAS are, at least on day 1, near enough IDENTICAL! Both arrive with two-gigabit ethernet connections (a little disappointing in 2022/2023, but lets move on), two USB 3.2 Gen 1 (5Gb/s) ports for storage and supported accessories and an eSATA port that is used for attaching the official Synology DX517 expansion chassis (mentioned earlier). Now, after that, we can discuss the big, BIG difference between the DS723+ and DS92+ NAS:
| NAS Model | Synology DS723+ NAS
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| RJ-45 1GbE LAN Port | 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support) | 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support) |
| USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port* | 2 | 2 |
| eSATA Port | 1 | 1 |
| PCIe Expansion | 1 x Gen3 x2 network upgrade slot (10GbE Option) | No |
| System Fan | 92 mm x 92 mm x 1pcs | 92 mm x 92 mm x 1pcs |
| Power Supply Unit / Adapter | 65W | 65W |
Yes, the Synology DS723+ arrives with the option to upgrade its network connectivity from 1GbE to 10GbE with the Synology E10G22-T1-MINI adapter (arriving at around £129-139 in price). Now, this might be the main tipping point for many users to immediately opt for the Synology DS723+ over the DS720+ NAS. Now, the full saturation of a 10Gb connection on the DS723+ is going to be all but IMPOSSIBLE (not eve nwith full SSD RAID use, intelligence cache in place all burned in and/or enterprise-level HDDs in place – we are still talking about two SATA drives here!) but even a single modern NAS HDD would be bottlenecked by a single ethernet port on the DS720+ and only barely accessed fully via LAG/Port-trunking with 2x 1GbE. the option for the DS723+ to add a 10GbE connection in conjunction with that more powerful CPU is going to mean some very good throughput is going to be possible (and with ECC memory to keep on top of data integrity in those high-speed writes too).
Note – You can find my 10GbE, 4x WD Red Pro 22TB Synology Ryzen R1600 NAS (DS1522+) Tests HERE on the Blog and HERE on YouTube, where we were able to hit 1.15GB/s
It would have been nice if the DS723+ NAS had arrived with 10GbE on board (even if it meant increasing the price a bit, many would feel) or greater than gigabit on those default ethernet ports, but there is no avoiding that the DS723+ CLEARLY wins in terms of network connectivity, as it has the exact ports as the DS720+, but allows the scalability up to 10Gb/1,000MB/s bandwidth down the line.
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Software Performance
The performance of Synology DSM services and supported 3rd party connected appliances is going to be very similar on both the DS720+ and DS723+ NAS when it comes to utilizing the respective systems in low volume/frequency client tasks. By that, I mean that the scale of the operations that you need the NAS to action (from simple file sharing and downloading, to more intensive multi-site backups, file streaming, databases and surveillance for example) will largely dictate which NAS will perform better for you. As mentioned, the DS720+ and its embedded graphics-supported CPU will use fewer resources to perform graphically focused tasks such as transcoding, as well as running applications that have a high volume of visual data such as live camera feeds in Surveillance Station 9. Whereas the file handling and general transfer performance of traditional data exchanges are going to use fewer resources on the DS723+ embedded Ryzen processor, as well as have a much, MUCH higher ceiling for total processes thanks to that larger memory scalability already discussed. Below is a breakdown of the most popular applications and services that are included with either the Synology DS720+ or DS723+ NAS:
Synology Office – Create documents, spreadsheets, and slides in a multi-user environment. Real-time synchronization and saving make collaboration a breeze.
Synology Chat – Aimed at businesses, Synology Chat is an IM service that transforms the way users collaborate and communicate.
Synology Drive – Host your own private cloud behind the safety of your NAS with 100% data ownership and no subscription fees.
Synology Moments – Manage your photos and videos with deep-learning algorithms that automatically group photos with similar faces, subjects, and places.
Synology Calendar – Stay on track, share calendars, and schedule meetings, while ensuring sensitive information remains safely stored on company premises.
Synology Active Backup for Business (ABB) – Consolidate backup tasks for virtualized environments, physical servers, and personal computers, and rapidly restore files, entire machines, or VMs – license free.
Synology Hyper Backup – backup you NAS safely and efficiently to multiple destinations with deduplication, integrity checks, compression, and versioning.
Synology Surveillance Station – Safeguard your business, home, and other valuable assets with reliable video surveillance tools.
Synology Virtual Machine Manager (VMM) – An intuitive hypervisor that supports Windows, Linux, and Virtual DSM virtual machines. Its powerful disaster recovery tools help users achieve maximum service uptime.
Synology High Availability – Synology High Availability (SHA) combines two Synology NAS servers into one active-passive high-availability cluster, alleviating service disruptions while mirroring data.
Synology Central Management System (CMS) – Synology CMS allows you to manage multiple Synology NAS servers quickly and conveniently from a single location.
Synology Video Station – Manage all your movies, TV shows, and home videos. Stream them to multiple devices or share them with friends and family.
Synology Photo Station – Built to help photographers manage their photos and share them with clients for feedback or business development.
Synology Audio Station – Manage your music collection, create personal playlists, stream them to your own devices, or share with family or friends.
Synology File Station – Manage your Synology NAS files remotely through web browsers or mobile devices
However, the extent to which you can use all these applications at any single time (both as multiple clients using the same software or multiple applications running in parallel on the same NAS system) is going to be better on the Synology DS723+ in the grand scheme of things, thanks to that potential 32GB of memory available to scale up down the line. Here is how these two Synology NAS drives compare in volume and features in those 1st party services:
Now we have still yet to have the software support and range of users/clients supported by the hardware configuration of the Synology DS723+ NAS drive, HOWEVER, we DO have those of the DS1522+ NAS, which arrives with the same CPU (but 8GB of memory and three additional storage bay). Nevertheless, this should serve as a small indication of the extent to which the DS723+ and DS720+ compare in DSM performance:
| Model | DS720+ | DS1522+ |
| Max Single Volume | 108TB | 108TB |
| SAN Manager | 128 ISCSI Targets and 256 LUNS | 128 ISCSI Targets and 256 LUNS |
| Surveillance Station | 40 Cameras Max, 2 Licenses | 40 Cameras Max, 2 Licenses |
| Collaboration Suite | ALL Tools | ALL Tools |
| Synology Drive | 350 Connections , 5,000,000 Files | 350 Connections , 5,000,000 Files |
| Active Backup | FULL Support (Google, 365, VM, local) | FULL Support (Google, 365, VM, local) |
| Synology Photos | All Features | All features |
| Hybrid Share | Full Support of 10x syncs | Full Support of 10x syncs |
| Accounts | 2048 Users, 256 Groups, 512 S.Folders | 2048 Users, 256 Groups, 512 S.Folders |
| SHA | Yes | Yes |
| VMM | Yes, 4 Recommended Max | Yes, 8 Recommended Max |
| Hardware Transcoding | Yes | No |
| MailPlus | 100 concurrent users, 5 Licences | 100 concurrent users, 5 Licences |
| SHR Support | Yes | Yes |
| Snapshots | 65,536 Max | 65,536 Max |
| Web Hosting | Upto 30x | Upto 30x |
| Hyper Backup | Yes, all features and clients | Yes, all features and clients |
| Max Synology Tested R/W Speed | 226.01MB/s – 225.84MB/s | 736MBs – 796MB/s |
Once again, very similar and indeed, both systems largely provide the building blocks to use each application to the highest extent allowed/recommended by Synology in DSM. Despite these NAS’ having very different CPUs, they still ultimately support the same volume of services (at maximum) in DSM. But the DS723+ clearly has more recourse scaling possible and that will hopefully mean that you will be able to push several applications in higher frequencies each more on the newer system than the old one. Just don’t overlook how useful that Intel Celeron CPU would be to multimedia tasks.
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Plex Media Server
This is going to be a big, BIG question for a number of users – Which is better for Plex Media Server, the older Synology DS720+ or new DS723+ NAS? Now, as mentioned much earlier in this comparison, if you are looking at native playback a handful of streams of H.264 media, without transcoding, in both 4K and 1080p (up to about 60Mb/s bitrate), then you will see almost no difference between these devices unless you stream to large #s of clients, as the embedded graphics hardware on the Intel J4125 CPU will not really see any activity/need. HOWEVER, if you are running complex file formats (mp4a, occ, RAW for example), want on-the-fly transocding to reduce a media files size that you are streaming from a weak connection (commute? on the beach?) and/or you are playing HEVC/H.265 media in 4K/1080p/720p media to client devices that need server-side conversion – THEN the R1600 embedded Ryzen in the DS723+ will definitely hit 100% CPU utilization VERY fast and you will hit a wall very quickly. Now, what is the significance of HEVC/H265 and conversions/transcoding? Well, HEVC/H.265 is a newer and much more effective compression technique for squeezing GIANT MEDIA into smaller file sizes (eg from CINEMA to sofa) and prior to that, the h.264 compression format was still good, but also FREE! However, HEVC/H265 requires a licence and, in the absence of one being included by the manufacturer or purchased by the client hardware user, your HEVC/H265 file will need to be converted to a playable format in order to be streamed – THIS is the hard work that the embedded graphics on the Intel Celeron are GREAT for! Below are two videos from the NASCompares YouTube channel that show a multitude of Plex Media Tests on the DS720+ vs the DS1522+ (same hardware mostly) and how they compared:
| 4K MEDIA ONLY PLEX NAS TESTS! | 720p/1080p/4K PLEX MEDIA SERVER TESTS |
Now, there are lots of ways to get around the HEVC/H265 barrier. You can:
- Use Media Client Hardware for watching your Plex Server Media that is powerful enough to allow ‘client side’ conversions
- Only Use H.264 Compressed media
- Use a client hardware device that includes an HEVC/H.265 Licence purchase option
However, if you are running your Plex Media streaming to mobile devices (many of which do not allow client-side hardware conversions) or an Amazon Fire Stick (same again), these will rely quite heavily on the NAS doing the heavy lifting in the event of you needing HEV/H265 content modified. So, although BOTH the DS720+ and DS723+ NAS are going to be good for Plex in native playback when it comes to media that is going to need some extra horsepower server-side, the DS720+
The Synology DS723+ vs DS720+ NAS – Conclusion
There is alot to like in the DS723+ NAS. Optional 10GbE, an awesome 32GB of DDR4 ECC Memory to scale up towards and a CPU with plenty of horsepower to be getting on with (if a pinch more electricity-hungry). When the DS720+ first arrived, it did so to high praise indeed (barring a few concerns at the time about 1GbE and it’s price point being quite a jump from the more conservative DS220+) and it has pretty much always been well engaged with since its launch for most users. Now the full specifications and details of the DS723+ are known, for many more complex and/or non-native media users, it has made the DS720+ is now even more attractive. Synology has clearly taken a rather different tactic in the release of their newest 2-Bay Diskstation, making changes to the expected hardware configuration and architecture that set it on a very different path than its predecessor. If you were already looking at Synology NAS systems that arrive with a heavy emphasis on business use, high frequency/volume transfers and scaling their architecture notably down the line in efforts to remain future-proof, the DS723+ is going to tick ALOT of boxes for you. Whereas if you were looking at a Synology NAS for home use, a Plex Media server, low client/user use and generally as more of a setup-and-forget solution, then the DS720+ will likely suit your needs better and will have the added benefit of a more palatable price point at the end of 2022. The Synology DS723+ NAS has moved this tier of Synology portfolio towards more of a small business footing than the DS720+, which might not please everyone. Keep an eye open for the DS423+ and DS223+ towards the start of next year (as well as the Value series arriving in 1, 2 and 4-Bay with that Realtek RTD1619b), as there is every likelihood that Synology are going to give these much more of a multimedia/home spotlight, now that the DS723+ has shifted it’s gears to a higher audience somewhat.
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Sry Plex is lame, use Jellyfin, is opensource, no online account oder sub. ????
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Synology has A grade software but C grade hardware… I just don’t get it. So many of their users want more out of the hardware yet they just ignore them. Crazy.
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I need ecc for zfs. Done.
Plus, I want the power. I can stick a little cheap GPU in of needed and it’d be way more powerful.
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Many thanks for the honest and hard work you two are doing. You guys rock! ????
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we want more like this….
more comparasion with video real, not just talk only
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Question some of the new models do have Intel Celeron. Do those all have the same imbedded graphics as this older model ?
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Seems like these comparisons are moot if you just connect any NAS to a Zidoo media player such as the Z9x or Z2000pro to pull the content from your NAS. Those will play anything smoothly, everytime.
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I have bought a DS1522+ a week ago. I was struggling with external discs breaking down one after another. Even a 5 week old 8 Tb barracuda drive. ????
98 percent what i have is 1080p. That is doing fine. But it is struggling with 4k. A DS1621xs was just to expensive.
I hate it that Synolgy on purpose choose to use these CPU’s. They are doing that deliberate. So you have to step up bigtime. Actually with a CPU and a build in GPU a lot of people would not buy their expensive Nas line. Synoly could have used a slightly more expensive CPU with build in GPU. And that would have cost us around 50 dollar more. But we all would have done that gladly. And it is really a stupid move from from Synology because a lot of people will be looking at Qnap because of that. So in the end it will cost them money.
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OMG what is up with you people discounting this because it doesn’t provide enough gpu transcoding for you, therefore it’s a loser? I had a 220+ which was fine and now the 1522+ and it’s awesome. Plays all my 4K videos perfectly and as well or better than my previous. What is this obsession with transcoding videos when you’re buying a $1000 NAS that does so much more and the new processor does cartwheels around the previous Celeron on the 220+. I mean how many people are watching fricken videos on their phone and flipping out if it buffers? I tested and it works just as well as the 220+ for my needs, no buffering or stuttering and remote play just as seamless. So are there seriously tens of thousands of people using their NAS to share their library and expecting 10 for more simultaneous transcoding streams to all their kids or friends or…. customers? it’s lunacy to see all the complaints about this one feature not being optimized with their choice of a new CPU which frankly is so much faster and efficient on every other task I use my NAS for like video and photo editing on the fly, backing up and accessing Synologydrive, music streaming and everything else. And no problem playing and I guess transcoding a stream when needed. So just STFU with all the negative whiners who seem to have no life but watching multiple streams on multiple phones at any given time, therefore this is a crappy NAS? Give us a break and get a life. It’s an awesome product.
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I run my mac mini m2 pro 24/7 and plex on it. How will will the 1522+ run as just a storage device for plex server running on mac?
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Thank you! It’s the first really comparison for the 2 NAS
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I don’t understand why you would not want to optimise your CPU performance with SMT. It’s basically just saying you’re happy to have your CPU sitting idle instead of working, for a slight improvement on task completion times.
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Would the 723+ be a better one for watching videos at home using DS video? Or would it give the same results as using Plex? Thanks
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Can plex pass play the drm movies downloaded from Apple? I have quite a few movies that i bought the blu ray disc and it came with a digital copy which I redeemed the code through iTunes and nothing I’ve found will play it except of course streaming from my nas to iTunes. I can’t even stream it to my iPhone. Of course I know I can just stream it from apple on my iPhone, but the point is I want to be able to stream my own content that I own on my NAS. Thanks.
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So glad I got the 920+ for my home/office. I stream lots of video over it, often over my phone on cell data while we’re traveling. Love that I’ve been streaming on 5 devices at a time and the 920+ handles it. Granted they’re all 720p and 1080p, but that’s still impressive doing multiple at a time and the processor is barely working.
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You just earned one subscriber more! After watching full video I decided to buy ds720+, it’s for home use, storage and multimedia in general.
Also I was looking for adding in WD Red Plus drives. Pro would be too expensive and basic Red is too slow. Red Plus it’s looking like sweetsop for me.
What do you guys think?
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Why can’t Synology get with the embedded graphics program! If QNAP interface and software was more user friendly. Synology would really have problems.
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Hey guys – really good video. I really researched this topic a lot and decided against the 923+ or 723+ due to dual core and no embedded graphics. I will tell you though, the the 1500B Ryzen in the RS1221+ is a beast. It is by far the fastest NAS I have. My RS422+ has the Ryzen 1600 in it and I’m not super impressed. Most home users are not going to benefit from 10GBE yet because everything else in the house runs 1GBE or less. I’m sticking with the DS920+, DS720+, and RS1221+ for now and skipping the 23+ series. I think Synology really let us down on this one. Also, the hard drive selection on these from the QVL is getting stupid for something that crosses between home and business NAS for the home user who wants more power.
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Such a Disappointment! I was so excited to upgrade my DS214Play with this unit. Then everything about it became an absolute disappointment. For the past 15 years I’ve used two different Synology units the same way. Main unit for storage and an external eSATA enclosure for backup (single version). That way at any point in time I had an NTFS copy of everything.
They decided to lock down this unit and the eSATA port is only for Synology to use. It is not usable by the user. That leaves only one USB port. Gees! Even my DS214Play had 4 usable ports on it! Further more the USB port is slower than eSATA. So this unit is a downgrade in that regard. Now add the fact that the dual NVMe slots cannot be used as storage space unless you way over spend on Synology owned drives. Ok, so I’ll use that for cache. NOPE! It’s not cache. It’s some useless smart cache that is only used for frequently read or written files. Completely unlike literally every single cache found on any raid array controller which does both that and acts as real write cache. Then onto the last disappointment. I’m using newer 6TB Seagate Exos Enterprise drives with this unit. Very fast drives. With the 10Gb adapter installed I expected to get a good 500MB transfer speed. NOPE! Starts out at 500 then quickly drops to around 140. Why? This makes no sense. That drive gets over 300 from drive to drive in a PC over a 6Gbps connection. Should be the same over 10Gb. I borrowed a QNAP NAS from someone and set that up. An entire 20GB file transfer saw an average 480MBps (with cache). Yet the DS723+ only averages 218MBps (with useless cache).
Such absolutely pointless decisions on their part. Ah well. I should have held off longer and waited for a USB 4 storage option as this unit is a complete and utter disappointment!
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I just purchased a 723+ and a pair of 12TB drives. Did I make a mistake? What would you purchase instead, staying in the Synology family, DSM is the requirement. I am not going to use Plex ever, It will be mostly used for personal cloud and Synology Photos for local management of my family’s photos’ and videos.
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Thks & sorry I thinks Eddie & the sea-gull are right for a home/family NAS.
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Just upgraded from a DS1812+ recently and ended up with DS920+ instead of the 923+ purely because Synology opted to use an iGP-less chip for the new generation. There are ryzen embedded chips with igp. So disappointed with Synology for cutting out the igp in their new prosumer models.
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720+ is still the better one. 4 cores 4 threads and i run my with 18GB ram…
Better as 723+ with only 2 cores… Sadly no improvement. So all just buy a 720+
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For me would be interesting the 2.5+ gbe, the cpu is a step back, especially with the higher tdp with lower multicore performance. They should use a newer, more efficient cpu.
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Does the DS920+ support these 22TB drives as well?
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Does DS723+ support 64GB ram？
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What a mess for Synology , its like they saying go buy the older version or a QNAP .
Totally MESS….
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I have a DS1522+ coming but not the disks (will buy 20TB’ish as I can afford them 🙂 but can I just toss in some dumb old single drive just to get in and play around till the remaining drives get here (i have not made my mind what I want yet).
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Synology could have used 1605 chip with integrated graphics and had AMD hardware transcoding for a couple of extra dollars, instead crippled the DS21,22,23+ models for plex
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TBH I am a little confused, I need a NAS for file back up Documents, Heavy photo storage and fast download retrieval of images, as well as secure storage? One possibly two users at home, small business 720 or 723? Thank You.
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Just realized this is the answer of a question I posted some minutes ago on another video. You already have a video for it. Thank you so much! Seems like I need to wait some more years. Encoding/Decoding on the 1522+ is a bummer in addition to its slow built-in LAN ports. And I won’t by a 2,5 years old NAS. I want a long phase of support by the vendor.
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I guess I bought the DS1522+ “Etzel” of NAS’s when it comes to Plex. However when I add media to my Plex library, I transcode it for the devices we broadcast to prior to adding. I did that so that my computer would not have to transcode everything on the fly. I don’t really think this will affect me much unless we become enamored with 4K media – that has not by any means caught-up with 1080P in content availability.
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My dude, another spot on video – can guarantee you have helped more than one person make an informed decision.
I have been holding and holding with my 214play (bleh) to see what XXX23 brings and it looks like XXX20+ is still the answer for the prosumer/transcode user.
Perfect level of information and impartiality (I’d call the new releases a hot steaming pile, but that’s just for my use case) – lets hope they’re not gearing up for a quad core DS923+Play++GOTYE+Platinum+++++ with an onboard graphics!
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Watching 4k movies on my 920+ all the time. Don’t listen to this guy.
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920+ for me !! , I some times I do not understand Synology ?! just upgrade the Intel Cpu with 4k support and you have ours wallets !!
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*Update, Synology DSM has been updated to DSM 7.1. So, check out my MASSIVE Synology DSM 7.1 Software Review HERE – https://youtu.be/SqFa0WyxGJc *
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Eddie participation is really good, I was looking for a home NAS and he made some good points for the 720+
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the 920+ has some stuttering during playback. it wil just freeze for a tenth of a second during playback (like the spiderman-scene at 8:40 when they’re talking, 8:49 with the large screen, at 9:00 during the fade-in). That would be unplayable for me because it’s very noticable and annoying. Could it be that the settings were wrong for playback in plex? That it’s playing back in 24p instead of 23,997p and that’s why you get stuttering?
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The Synology DS923+ NAS Review is now LIVE! Find it here – https://nascompares.com/2022/11/16/synology-ds923-nas-review/
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right guy is right
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723 is just way better
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I absolutely LOVE my 920+. I have had zero problems for 3 years now.
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As a long time Synoloy user (DS211, DS115j ,DS718+ ,DS220+) I am really get tired of waiting for an affordable 2-bay + SSD model with a 10/5/2.5/1 gigabit interface. I have a QNAP Ethernet 5Gbps USB adapter on my DS718+ (thank bb-qq/aqc111 ), but a properly supported solution is long overdue. Not to mention, while announced for DSM 7, SMB multichannel still seems to be unavailable. Starting to wonder if I should be looking more carefully at the competition.
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I’m sorry but this videos is just misinformed. The integrated graphics are not used for transcoding. There are dedicated chips for this purpose. The memory is a huge boon and the base model wattage is 15 not 25. They could have stuck with Celeron but the amd isn’t bad and was specifically created for embedded unlike the celeron.
I think it’s a smart move
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Great video ????
Was wondering if you have a link for that video trailer which you showed last? I believe it was a Hevc 4k
60mb/s ?
Would like to DL it and try some tests on my end !
Cheers
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Thx for the comparison, Apple Studio with a MikroTik Cloud Router Switch 305-1G-4S+IN here i come!
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To keep it short… both are not worth to buy :-/ …i have no idea why Synology don’t use GPU with the AMD.
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Need Help!
My turn finally to buy a NAS and money isn’t an issue.
I edit 4k multi cam vids all day long and need to work off a NAS that has caching etc. I will need raid to back up work just in case of storage failures. My vid and clips and data are at the moment at around 15T so want a system that can handle that, back it up, and extract the data whenever I need with fast speed.
Again I want the best, something that will last years and not something that will be outdated any time soon.
Speed is the key for me though.
Thanks
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Changed from. 1817+ to 1821+ resulted into 3.5gbit to nearly 7gbit performance of a single 10gbe copy from my pc
Same Intel card, same hdds… Just the Nas changed.. Thanks ryzen…
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*Intel Celeron J4125* : _Release Date Q4 2019,_ 4-Core CPU with Integrated Graphics (Synology 2020 NASes)
*AMD R1600* : _Release Date Q2 2019,_ 2-Core CPU with no Integrated Graphics (Synology 2023 NASes) Progress ? ????????????
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what about the speed of searches? If I have 3 users searching thousands of folders/files which NAS will hold up better to running the INDEX services using file content (not just file name searches) with the least delay?
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Is there any official date for end of support for ds720+? Or can we estimate this?
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Thank you for this video. It was a big help in making my decision to buy the DS920+. It’s a great NAS and I am so happy I bought it.
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The *23 series seems to definitely be the “skip” generation until Synology comes back to their senses.
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Love the work guys. I’d like to hear your thoughts on – home video.
We are an iOS family. We record video at 4K 60 FPS. A three minute video can easily be north of 350MB.
I have a 918+ and it struggles to to play the home videos. Some just will not play.
I’m keen to upgrade, I enjoy DSM, but I feel like the new Synology offerings will not work for me.
Can you do a video discussing home video played through Synology Photos?
Would love to hear your thoughts/findings as I may be doing something wrong????
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Have both Nas. DS920 for Plex and remote Back up/rsynce the DS923 for files transfer storage, surveillance/VM & etc.
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2 bay NAS just don’t seem a good value proposition compared to 4 bay NAS.
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Sry man, can’t hit that dislike you ask for, on any of your vids. Keep slaying the NAS and Sever topics!
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Great video, as always. Would love to see a review of hubs that offer link aggregation.
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I would like to see the comparison between DS1621+ and DS923+ and maybe DS920+ in PLEX media. I curently have DS718+ and want to upgrade to something with more bays. I am using my nas for all (PLEX, VMs, Synology Photos, VPN server, ip cam, docker – home assistant, etc), I also have WIFI 6 all around (router, all phones, laptops) so 1gbe starting to be limiting… so I wounder if it is better to buy now DS920+ or theoretically DS1621+ (no GPU, but more horse power)
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i would argue the 723+ falls flat once price comes into the equation. it offers no benefits other than maybe ecc memory. let’s face it though, this is a device for home and only very small businesses. ecc memory is not a top priority for simple fileserver, some backup and sync jobs, which is what a station like this one will do in an office.
the added cpu performance is completely useless with the network limitation and once you factor in a 10gb addon the price is the point where feasibility falls flat.
what the 723+ has added can not be used in any meaningful way, so the 720+ in practice delivers the same experience for a lower price. it just wins however you look at it.
had they only put 2.5gbit on there the story would be different, but as is, the 723+ is just not a competitve offer in my book.
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Just got the 720+ for £370, happy with it
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Power and more memory is largely irrelevant for home uses. Same with nvme speed or more than 1gb ports. Even worse is promoting WiFi 6 which is years away from being a common standard. Who cares ? Lack of integrated graphics makes the 723 pointless. I think you need to clearly separate the two products. They are completely different, completely different.
There is no point in a value for money. No integrated graphics means 0 value for money.
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So is the 723+ a 2-core or quad(4) core. See timestamp 6:28. Love your channel and have learned a lot, thanks.
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I enjoy these conversations. One issue that seems to be looming is if Synology alienate the plex home users, how would you go about migrating to QNAP? Would you even want to?
My biggest gripe was always not being able to remove a hard drive from your cluster. This would allow a better way to migrate elsewhere rather than having to buy bigger hard drives for a 2nd system.
I have a 5 bay 1515+ and have no idea where to go from there. Cant go to the 920+ as its only 4 bays, not a huge fan of the ryzen, and unsure if buying the add on machine to populate with spare HDDs I have laying around whether it would remain compatible with future releases.
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Eddie nailed it, but I think the biggest problem with the “Ryzen is better for traditional home NAS tasks except multimedia” argument is that traditional NAS tasks *except multimedia* are very lightweight. File storage and sharing, private chat servers, pi-hole DNS filtering, Tailscale, etc – none of these are going to see any noticeable benefits for home users by the ‘upgrade’ from Ryzen to Celeron or from ECC memory. But multimedia (which is what most home users buy this for, let’s be real) is getting a huge downgrade.
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With out knowing the price this is more like discussing the sex of the angels.
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Just a quick shoutout, my first NAS was a 720+ and I was able to get it going because of this channel and all the info you put out. Thank you for that. I’ve since upgraded to a 1621+ and so far so good. Keep up the great work.
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Any news on the DS223+ yet? ????????
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1st
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Oooooooooooh;
Synology DS1522+ NAS Video Station Testing 4K & 1080p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTVjScmU-w
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i’ve watched your other vidoes of 4k comparasions but these NAS are not able to play HIGH BITRATE 4k content. So if the intel CPU is powefull enough then what is creating the bottleneck? because streaming is mostly IO bound process (as contracy to cpu bound process which requite more processing power) so processorer can’t be bottleneck. what are everyone thought on this?
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IGP missing is not good
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Im going Qnap next time. Syno is just doing everything wrong lately
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Used my NAS more for 4k video… still using the DS918+
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Hello guys. I’m really confused ???? I want to buy a NAS but what should I buy? Synology? Qnap? What processor? I want to use it as a media player. Most of my video’s are 4K or 4K HDR/Dolby vision. Please some advice? Thank you.
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Hmmmm …. AMD is famous for it iGPUs.
???????????Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll why in the heck didn’t Synology just put a AMD CPU with iGPU in their darn home/office NAS???????????? (no entiendo senor 😉
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I ended up buying the 1522+ as I was hopeful it would have a graphics processor but come to find out that it’s not really needed and not a hill to die on to be honest. Better option is the 10GBE (that should have been included) as a future proof option and more ram. If embedded graphics is a must for plex then just buy a NUC or use a old computer for a Plex server. Most if not all formats play on newer devices so transcoding isn’t needed.
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I think even the seagull behind Ed was totally unimpressed by the argument for AMD. Of course if Synology’s aim is to have a separate range of commercial NAS and a separate range of consumer, media, NAS then fine.
But they should announce their intentions as I guess half their customer base wants Plex and also 1gb Ethernet and has no use for 2.5 gb or non embedded graphics
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Trying to “both sides” this is a bad look for your credibility as an independent reviewer. Call it like it is – this is a bad move from almost any angle, and the few advancements in the -23 series are things that could have easily been achieved with a newer CPU with integrated graphics. Synology cheaped out because they got a good bulk deal on low end Ryzen chips, and their product lineup is going to suffer for home users for the next few years because of it.
It feels like you’re so committed to Synology because your YT channel relies on them being successful, so you don’t know how to react to bad decisions like this other than to put on a brave face.
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14:53 really says it all….
We have no issue with AMD powered CPUs if they would have the same or better GPU power which the R1600 has not… APU NAS when?
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What is the NAS going to be used for? I think with the support of virtual machines and containers, your NAS can also double as your main home server. If that’s what you’re looking for, I’d say go QNAP.
That’s what I did. I bought the QNAP TVS-H1288x. Yes, it is expensive, but it also serves many purposes in my home. I have a Plex server, along with a Windows 11 and Ubuntu VM running, and a few containers to handle various duties in my house. It has 4 2.5Gbe ports, 2 10 Gbe ports, and 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports for any imaginable network needs you might have. I can still add a GPU if I want and I’m currently only using a portion of the machine’s potential. So I won’t be needing to upgrade this H/W anytime soon.
If you just want a NAS, then the CPUs offered by Synology are more than capable of handling the task. I prefer the Synology S/W over QNAP, but Synology needs to up their H/W game to include at least one 10Gbe port on every model they sell. Buying a NAS today with 1Gbe ports is a waste of money, and quite honestly link aggregation does not do the job. I have an old DS1512+ that is over a decade old and still running fine. None of these new 2023 Synology boxes you’ve been discussing offer much more than that old DS1512+ I already have as far as a NAS is concerned.
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Would it be a possibility that Synology developed a “graphics card” to plug into the pci-e expansion slot? So you could choose between graphics acceleration or 10G adapter.
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I just have a separate pc that comes on, on demand for when I need to play Plex media. It boots in 10s so it’s fine. I’ve given up on wanting to use a NAS for videos.
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Had moved to 1621+ last year, i never found losing the gpu cost me anything. My prefered way to watch video is through ds file and native player, both in home and on the go. I don’t had much those extreme high bit rate video file outside of a select few of collections. Those are wast of storage and money in my opinion.
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This whole apparent myth about threads = cores is BS. Even at slightly higher clock speeds, the R will underperform vs. the Celeron in a server environment especially, when running multiple processes 24/7 is key. If they had opted for a 4c/8t ofc no contest, but they didn’t. Incidentally that also makes the whole point about more RAM totally moot. Not to mention the lack of iGPU, which makes this plus generation utterly irrelevant to many of the usual customers in this segment. Oh, and that’s not even mentioning the outdated 1G NIC which is laughable at this point.
Btw, Pentium branding is also gone as well as Celeron in case anyone wonders.
I like the back and forth that you guys do though. It’s a great service to your viewers, and ultimately help them choose the right product, ofc on that note your advice should be to avoid this plus generation all together because it’s nothing but a cash grab on Synology’s part 😉
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I hope they will start using N300 cpus with alder lake E cores, until that i wait for next NAS
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I wanted to buy a new NAS for Plex/Jellyfin but these new ones are just useless to me…
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I’m very disappointed about there being no integrated graphics because I think most home users are going to want to play movies on it. Luckily I didn’t hold out on the 923. I gave us waiting and bought the 920 and I’m glad i did. Seems like Synology is definitely heading down the business market on the small units instead of home user.
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Nothing news on ds1823+? Will use standard hard disk or synology ones?
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AMD makes power efficient APUs with integrated graphics – the Ryzen U series processors. The Ryzen 3 5400U has 4 cores, 8 threads, 3 GHz base clock, 4 GHz boost clock, and integrated graphics, all with 15W of power consumption. It seems like that APU would be a perfect fit for a NAS that is going to be used to decode and stream 4k video. It may increase the cost a bit, but consumers who want to stream 4k video from their NAS probably would be willing to pay it.
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I’ve been using Synology NAS for 11 years on a 1Gb/sec wired network and am a Plex user. I’ve experimented with various setups to maximize 4K video delivery to various output sizes, as in iPad/iPhone, PC/Mac, 4K smart TV and 1080p projector. Any time a 4K video had to be transcoded to another size, the Synology CPU was buried. By one user. I found out that the Apple TV 4K also performs transcoding of 4K input to match the display it’s connected to. So the server no longer needs to perform the transcoding (unless I’m on my iPhone/iPad, which requires transcoding, and it isn’t pretty)! This means that the Synology NAS needs less processor cores/speed (in most cases) when transmitting video media.
I, too, am awaiting a new Synology box that provides 4 or 5 discs with at least one 2.5Gbs network connection and a processor/GPU configuration that supports fast video decoding. Without that option, I have no need to upgrade. Synology’s focus is not on multimedia so I look to the near future with doubt. Perhaps Intel will eventually create new devices with this market in mind.
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I wanted to upgrade my 713+ / DX513 to an 1821+.. ( 1823 ? 1824?..)
If it came out with an R1600 I wouldn’t take it.
I’m ready to put 100 euros more and have power
they piss off synology not to offer a powerful NAS with graphics
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Not that TDP means much at all, but the R1600 is 12-25w. The old J4125 was 10w. Current Celerons are 40-60w. The R1600 has a graphics version and all R1600 support 2 10Gbe. They could have at least given people that. The R1600 from a computing standpoint beats most celerons and people do want to run docker and maybe VMs, so gimping it with a weak CPU would have been a bad decision.
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So, I have a DS1821+ with an AMD CPU and all my media on it; Photos, video, and music. I run Plex on an old Dell Latitude laptop with a 2nd Gen i7. I stream my media to 2022 Apple TV’s. Not a single day buffering, local or remote. Works for me, or I’d say so.
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It depends on the use of the NAS – for me, the primary function of my current DS920+ is to run a Plex Server for remote devices not direct connected devices – in this case, having an IGPU is very important for me so I was naturally disappointed with the DS923+ using an AMD Ryzen which means I now have to look at QNAP or Asustor Lockstor 4 Gen2 with the N5105 CPU when it comes to upgrading – that or switch to using a Windows PC to run Plex which is not desirable due to power consumption
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Synology is going in the wrong direction. They dropped the ball across the field with not only the cpu shift, but not investing in their hardware. Their software is getting stale as well. They clearly are about bottom line profit and not about product… I’m done with them. QNAP is putting money and thought into what they are doing, I’m with them.
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synology needs to sell its operating system or with subscription like qnap.
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I am 100% with Eddie here. This is a pure business release of products cause they “had” to put out their xx2/3 models. Its obvious for anyone that knows this product category that these amd cpu`s is not suited for these nas`es. They are only in there to give themselves a bigger profit.
They fail on both power consumption and media which is a big deal for this product category. Feel sad for those ending up buying these without knowing this big flaw.
Not to talk down on amd cpu`s btw, They are great for many things.
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Both Intel or AMD is generally fine, lack of integrated graphics is on Synology. I would be happy with DS423+ if it had integrated graphics, but i doubt it will if it’s not Intel CPU, since 4xx+ usually has cheaper CPU and AMD with graphics would be more expensive.
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Intel for video encoding, no contest. I have a old QNAP Intel system that I want to replace with a new modern Synology Intel system but Synology don’t want to supply one.
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I was looking forward to 723+ and 923+ but without embedded graphic and still only 1gbe speed, I will not buying them. Very disappointed!
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Integrated graphics is a must for plex and with camera’s in mind. But I also find it stupid that intel still does not support ecc memory. I also think that they should support it.
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I’ll be looking for a Plex NAS in the next year and I want one with a GPU. If they’re are any available then I may have to look at a Mac Mini or such.
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For virtual machines, I still think the intel is better, and I agree also that for home users integrated graphics is better match for a NAS.
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Please, Unraid vs TrueNAS. I’m fed up with Synology’s cheating out on parts and charging tons with crippled systems, with no GPU/ HW encoding, dual cores in 2023, No built in 10GBe. I was waiting for years to upgrade my DS916+ which is still rock solid, but I need to run VMs (I run 1 virtual DSM currently) and to have extra power for more dockers Plex, and I needed more than the 8GB RAM I have and a built in 10GBe.
I’ve already bought a Lenovo mini PC from 2010 with 6 core 12 threads Intel CPU and upgraded it to 32GB DDR4 RAM and installed Proxmox for my VMs, but confused whether to install TrueNAS or Unraid for Plex and shared drives.
Thanks for all the efforts mates. I’m an avid follower. Keep up the great work and salute to to seagulls, lol ????????
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Thanks gents, this is The Question.
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Is the NAS using ssd or hdd?
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Ok this is fucked up! There has to be some strategy for dedicated media NASes later on.
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So… Useless for transcoding. Thanks but no tanks synology.
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I currently run a DS1621+ and DS1821+.. Giving the price of electricity, I’ve been toying with the idea of downsizing, to 3 smaller 2-bay NAS… 1 for VMs, 1 for Media storage and a 3rd for backup.. but I have 2 requirements, 10GbE and NVMe, and really QNAP TS253D is the only option, but if Synology do offer the 10GbE mini card, then they have already sold 3 of these 😛 (note I used a seperate NUC for streaming).
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People love trying to cram as many apps on their NASs as possible, and that usually ends up being the problem. Setting up a Plex server on an old PC that has a GPU can be a much better option. You can still keep all the files on the NAS. Either that or transcode everything into a codec that works on your NAS. Handbrake can batch convert stuff, and works with a large percentage of GPUs for doing things like this.
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OK, so at least next NAS dilemma is over, 723 and 923 will take AMD subaverage CPU for next 3 years; future owners should be watching over electricity bills since this AMD sucker is a high idle power consumer.
It’s not only about torpedoing Plex HW transcode, but also nitpicking on NIC type, ignoring use of NVMe drives as volumes, blocking USB peripherals, shrinking compatibility support for non-Synology disk drives and attempting to kill 3rd party community support. I expect 723 and 923 to experience even more limitations with respect to the qualified disks through DSM updates/patches.
In one hand, I’m glad I’m still using Synology and not defecting to QNAP which is PoS on it’s own but this could drive off a large part of perspective Plus model buyers.
My DS918 has a working 2.5GBe connection through Realtek USB/Eth adapter which usually reach 250-260 MBps; dual NVMe drives are mounted as mirror volume for app (Plex/Docker) app partition.
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What we need is synology software on Qnap hardware,synology really sucks when it comes to the hardware
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Much appreciated! ????????????????
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Would it be possible to link the test files? I’d like to do some testing myself!
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I think a great video you should make should be a high end build of a nas.
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Is there a big difference in power draw in this kinda of use case between the two?
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So, if I’m not wrong if I would watch a 4K HEVC HDR 10bit 60 mbps movie (a BD-REMUX) I should buy the DS920+ right? There is something you are constantly repeating: a client hardware support, what is that???
If I have a LG C2 OLED TV an Apple TV 4K connected on it and a DS920+, will I have a good experience watching movies on 4K HEVC???? Cause I don’t know if I should wait until DS923 releases, what do you recommend me?
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I bought the 1522+ with all my media is HD not 4k it works great. the browser side only seems to work with mp4 videos not sure why. I really like your videos thank you.
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0:18 wait a minute, that wasn’t a square!
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Thanks for your videos @NASCompares 😀 They have been helping a lot, especially your DS1522+ coverage! By the way, during DS1522+ manual download for Plex, after clicking Synology (DSM 7), which package should I choose?
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Let’s be honest, unless you have the need for server specific features such as transcoding or watch history sync across devices or other shenanigans, you’re going to have a hugely better responsiveness/playback experience on a dedicated device such as Apple TV, or other beefy SBC running Infuse, Kodi or the like. And they can stream at pretty much all resolution/bitrate/codec from any potato or even the lowest tier Synology NAS 😉
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I’d probably go with the DS1522+ as it’s newer and has a 10GBE option and if finding I need the transcoding engine I’d just buy a NUC and take the load off the NAS
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You didn’t cover my standard usecase. I have 4k files on server, but on device I watch 1080p or 720p due to bandwidth.
If I understood correctly in case of transcoding new Synology NASes absolutely unusable for two or more users simultaneously
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Why is Synology abandoning Intel? Plex users are a large percentage of their customer base.
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Very good video and review of both products.
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TLDW; Direct Play works fine on any relatively modern CPU architecture, and the slight increase in raw CPU computing power in Ryzen makes no real world difference when playing media in their original format compared to Celeron from a few years back. But the 1522+ is hot garbage anytime you need to transcode. If you ever need to stream outside your own network when traveling, or sharing with friends, or with client hardware that doesn’t support some of your media files, then the 1522+ is functionally useless for you and will be a giant headache to manage.
I don’t know why you had to sugar coat it with trying to think up cases where the 1522+ would be “good” for Plex – in the real world, you’re going to have to spend an inordinate amount of time checking your media formats to make it work when you just want to watch a movie on your NAS. That’s a terrible user experience compared to the 920+, which “just works” for Plex.
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Can’t wait for them to go on sale
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Just the comparison I’ve been looking for! Probably masochistic as I already bought the 920+
…Love how that every time I watch one of your videos there are more hardware and boxes in your office. Waiting for the video ‘coming to you from behind the Synology boxes’
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Well, as a QNAP user, I was hoping to switch but having no GPU killed this for me… This is a backward step from 920+ as it offered one. It would be interesting to hear how the 923+ compares 920+ on decoding or GPU accelerated tasks and VM. What’s sad is I’m probably not alone as QNAP has screwed the pooch with their “security” and software – I don’t want to tinker or spend hours figuring out how to secure my NAS and turn off all the “features” because it will compromise *facepalm*. Also, saying a 4-bay is business is focused, makes no sense if you have a lot of media… I am wondering if they will have two versions, one with no GPU and one with GPU in the 4-bay chassis. Anyway, thank you for this update, it helped me decide.
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Thanks for doing this video. Could you try doing the test with a Plex client on a 4k Smart TV or 4k capable dongle? I’m not sure if its true anymore that most of the devices people own don’t support HEVC. Apple’s supported it on their devices for years now. So has LG. I’ve used the Plex clients on both an appleTV 4k and a bottom of the line LG 4k SmartTV from 2016 devices to watch 4k HEVC movies streamed from a DS116 without so much as a hiccup and without plex pass. I may not be in the majority but I’m pretty sure I’m not that much of an outlier.
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Does a lack of an GPU affect surveillance performance?
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I have learnt the hard way to stick with Intel CPUs for hardware transcoding. AMD has consistently dropped the ball on video hardware accelerated transcoding compared to Intel CPUs and NVIDIA GPUs. A real shame. I always look for Intel CPUs to meet my hardware accelerated transcoding needs.
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I was hoping to upgrade my 718+ to a 4 bay NAS. Looks like it won’t be the 923+ if that does launch with the same processor as expected. The lack of native 10Gb ethernet, together with the price of the optional port, is disappointing too.
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Good bye Synology!
Qnap has been ordered
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Very, very informative! I was on the fence between these two NAS and almost bought 1522+ but due to this video I decided not to.This video provided me the key and vital information which basically made decide to eighter go with the 920+ or wait until Synology comes out with a 5 bay NAS with the more powerful AMD Ryzen “AND” embedded graphics. Fingers crossed ????the 1523+ will have it. The only question I have is, is 5 bay NAS more future-proof than the 4 bay?
Thank you very much
Rey750cc
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Great test vid, cheers. Also thanks for the update on the 923+ on your website. I seriously hoped the 923+ would’ve launched with a CPU that supports hardware transcoding. Disappointed that it’ll probably be just a 4-bay version of the 1522+. All I want in a Synology NAS are: 1) ECC RAM, 2) 4+ bays, 3) hardware transcoding. I can get 2 out of 3 with the 920+ (2 and 3) and the 1522+ (1 and 3) but not all 3…
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Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly. As 4K become the new standard, if I am to spend over 1000$+ on a NAS, I want to be able to futures proof and be fast enough.
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Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly.
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Fantastic comparison. I just got the DS1522+ (my very first NAS) primarily for Plex and I’m finding the same results as you that it will not play 4K movies. Luckily I only have a few 4K videos so it’s not a huge impact, but if I’d known this before my purchase I’d probably have gone with the DS920+.
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It’s almost impossible to rip 4k video from 4k disks these days. To be honest, I gave up, and all of my ripped movies are in 1080p.
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Can you please review: Asustor Lockerstor 6 Gen2 AS6706T !!!!
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Can you use the Plex client instead to confirm rather than web browser
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Can you do Video Station also? Then also streaming it to something to like a Nvidia Shield that might have the codecs on the playing end to see if it still strains the cpu
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Still 1gbps Ethernet? Synology, are you kidding me?
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Thanks for the news about the DS723+. Sad to hear that there won’t be a chip with imbedded graphics on it, so I guess that I will either have to wait for the DS923+, or buy the DS920+.
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it’s a good thing I bought the TS-464 and didn’t wait for the new Synology NAS. I hope I don’t regret this decision in the future when I get deadbolted xD
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I was on the fence 920+ vs 923+. I went ahead and jumped on the 920+ when it went on sale a few months ago and I’m glad I did. Sounds like the 923+ will likely use the ryzen. No embedded graphics is a deal breaker for me. I really want 10gbe but it’s not as important as the embedded graphics. And quite honestly I’m very impressed with the celeron, it sure sounded underpowered based on the specs, but it’s a real workhorse. It does everything I ask of it and never bogs down. Everything is snappy. Looks like I’ll just run this 920+ for 5+ years and check then if Synology finally got their act together and understands what their home users want.
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AMD ???? NOOOO
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Is there any indication of what the price will be on the DS723+.
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which Synology NAS would you recommend for just backup of Data , Including Pictures and Videos. I wont be using it to run any applications or programs…thanks
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No decoders = no purchase… This day and age i would expect new NAS lineup to have AV1 decoders to be included and main marketing point.
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My only hope is for the 223+ and 423+ to come with embedded graphics and NVMe support. No home user needs the extension bay that the 723 and 923 bring, so it would definitely make sense to separate the home and business product lines
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So disappointing…Whats the point of buying a new Synology? Why are Synology NAS hardware so underpowered?
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I can’t believe Synology has made this mistake ! No igp… Among the x22 and x23 models, none of them has an igp ? I will keep my DS920+ …
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So… less Cores, no GPU and high power consumption. For me seems better the ds720+ for all these 3 reasons, the most important the high powe consumption compared to the ds720+
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Downgrade to non-plus series for me. 2 cores and 4 threats, 2-4 Gb Ram. Interesting how this will perform with docker and vmm setups. Delicately saying not worth upgrading from 720+, at least knowing this now. That’s my summary unless the price is half of the previous 720+. The last real upgrade of 720+ is DVA1622. I wonder if they clone the same specs to 923+.
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intel xeon w-1250 6 core vs intel core i5-12400 6 core…. which is better for transcoding and encoding?
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Great video again! I have bought the ds720+ last year with 2 bays and 2x1gb ports. I have a small office with 3 pcs working from the nas as smb file folder so everything is stored on the nas and with mapped folders we work on any pc. May I ask so the transfer speed to read the files is limited to 100mb/sec due to 1gb lab port correct?? If I buy a 10gb nas I will run my files on the synology faster because I do have 2,5bgb lan ports on my pcs?? So it will be 2,5 times faster?? Or the lan ports is for out of the sight use??
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Very disappointed with the CPU…
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My my my … So still no 2.5 gigabit, still no hdmi out, worse transcode.
It seems almost an Apple like hubris.
QNAP it is then!
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That’s crap…..
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1 day too late 🙁 could have bought a 920+ yesterday for a good price but I was curious about the 923+. But with the R1600 in the 923+ I preferred the 920+. I guess I have to wait for Black Friday then.
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I was looking forward to this NAS, or the 923+. Reading this there is no gpu in both of them, a better option would be the 720 or 920. Does their own DS video station app need transcoding?
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Any idea if there will be a 1 bay NAS out as well? DS123j?
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1Gbe AGAIN?! LOL! I’m so glad I switched to Asustor.
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No thank you. AMD has some good low powered CPU’s with GPU. This chip is a downgrade. QNAP and Terramaster is starting to look good.
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Sick of Synology and their shenanigans. I love the Synology OS and ecosystem, but my parts will be here this week for a TrueNas build. $300 for a system with dual 10Gbe and no limitations or waiting.
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Conclusion: 19:03
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I’m a committed Synology user for the last 10 years and this coupled with the hard drive compatibility issues will finally see me cross over to QNAP.
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No embedded graphics no interest. Synology can feel damn lucky QNAP can’t get their crap together and gets hit with randsom and security issues on a monthly basis. Essentially being no option as well, even when they stomp all over Synology,if we talk pricing and hardware. Better luck next year Synology. I really hope nobody buys this trash. Poor Rob, another year as well with the same DS920+ compare and relevance vids. You love to see them
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Another downgraded pathetic product from Synology.
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Will be great, maybe a glitch for the Plex-users but for all us others, just mainly using SMB and such will this be a great upgrade. Still pleased with my old 918 though, think I’ll run it for some more years, but after that, at least 2.5 GBit will be a thing to have for me.
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Thank´s 😉
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Jeez dude. Synology can’t read the room
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Is it confirmed to be R1600 and not other models in R1000 series?
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CPU AMD Ryzen R1600 and this CPU has no onboard encoders or decoders at all.
Bye PLEX.
Another stupidity as QNAP did with their model TS-673!!!
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This is terrible news for Plex transcoding on Synology, big downgrade compared to Celeron iGPU on the 920+. I’m sure there are benefits for other applications and efficiency, but it’s not like the Celeron CPUs were ever overburdened for typical NAS tasks.
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10GbE, aside this sounds like a downgrade ????
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Bye bye plex…..
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Have been patiently waiting for the 723+ or 923+. Happy to see some info is starting to come out! Look forward to your reviews once hardware is available
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I think for example smb would get better timing with 10gbe. That means smb would probably be a bit faster at transferring very small files. But i dont have 10gbe yet so i am not able to confirm that theory
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One question: Why are the WD Red Pro 22TB HDDs all healthy? Did you edited the compatibility file on the Syno or anything else? Normaly only the 14TBs Red Plus are approved at Snologys compatibility matrix 🙂
Thx in advance and Cheers
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WE want Asustor AS6706T review PLZ !
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Thank you very much – very helpful ❤ and thoughtful.
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One important test is missing.
10gb + raid 5 + nvme cache.
Would be interesting to see.
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Hi, there is a typo in the cover picture. Instead of DS1522+ it is written as DS152+. Maybe you want to correct it?
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Your channel rocks
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Again, you skip the entire 4k segment that is the only format relevant for modern devices.
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Why are we using Chrome and not the native App?
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@NASCompares thank you for great content!
I’m in the middle between choosing between DS920+ and DS1522+, I wondering will DS1522+ without GPU handle VMs better (with the same amount of RAM)?
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timeline is missing
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Is there a NAS that can be used for video, photo editing and storage? Currently use a DAS, BUT would love not to hear drive noise and use remotely wwhen at my other office?
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Thanks for good info. Will definitely wait for the Synology DS923+ NAS in January?
My old DS1817+ will struggle on until then. 90% is PLEX use.
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I only use my Nas as raw storage for my PC that runs Plex.
I use 4K Dolby Vision/HDR files regularly so my 9th Gen i3 paired with 16GB RAM plays everything flawlessly.
The NAS is just my big boy storage for noisy drives down the hallway.
I use a DS418
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I am constantly having to restart PLEX on my TS-253D. Any suggestions?
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It would be really useful if you could highlight the general power consumption of the NAS units over time , I understand it’s complex and varies by use, but a general guide would be great – given the cost of electricity now – great channel 🙂
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What about a slightly different use case: storing user created video from phone or a prosumer camera? For example, from an Apple iPhone. Then feeding video to Mac for Final Cut editing?
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Damn R1600 and not a R1606G, maybe not the right cpu for the DS1522+
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Hmm I was looking at grabbing DS1522+ from UK Amazon yesterday, and now only the DS1520+ is listed….
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Looks like the new Ryzen 6800U would be a good match for the Synology. Low power and built in graphics. Although I’m not sure why they just don’t use a later generation Intel cpu. They must have gotten a better deal with the old Ryzen chips. “Old” being the keyword.
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Happy with my 1520
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I don’t understand why you keep saying the 920+ can’t play 4k files. I’ve been playing them (Blu-ray remuxes) for over a year and transcoding them with no problem at all. Sincerely you should revise your test methodology because you are just spouting false info there.
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Am I correct to assume that the DS1520+ will peform similar to the DS920+, or am I overlooking something?
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Why … I mean really why is there not a Ryzen 5000 series AMD APU NAS on the market.
Wouldn’t it absolutely own the ds920+?
Thanks for the content
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When do you think we’ll see Ryzen/Vega on a Nas? Do you think that Plex will take advantage of the Vega iGPU?
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So these playbacks are done through a browser, not the Plex app?
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I just bought a 920+, it is awesome, but a Looooud Mfer. I will say the best plex setup is 10tb x4, perfect balance and performance
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no timeline wtf?
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Very enlightening comparison
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Great video as usual.
Please can you do the same comparison testing Sinology Photos with big amount of photos and h.264, h.265 videos on the library?
Another one is to test the performance and CPU utilization difference in VM.
Just curious if there’s any scenario with performance gain in the Ryzen!
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Thanks, I think I’ll keep my 1520+ for now ????
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I’m a school photographer was is the best synology system? What hard drives you recommend that’s over 14TB? I am using Fiber from AT&T.
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I bought a DS1520+ as it basically a 5 bay 920+ and have been very happy with it as my Plex Server. I was concerned at the switch to AMD and this confirms it. I hope there is a Plex friendly 5 bay when I come to upgrade in a few years.
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Would you mind helping me out with understanding this a bit more ? ????
So I am going into this blindingly; I have two different NAS Diskstation Systems, that I’ve been thinking about purchasing and the reasoning for both is probably really stupid, which is why I am reaching out to ask for some useless information before blowing a bunch of money….
I am basically wanting to purchase one of these so I can have my 15+ tb music & music video collection ALL within one place instead of having multiple external HD.
The two that I am looking at are the DS1520 + and the DS920+.
I plan to purchase the maximum amount of storage that these can withhold with the Exos 16 tb HD. (So total of either 4 or 5 of those 16 tb HD). And then some time later on down the road i will purchase the expansion and max that one out as well and have all of my music collectively all on one of these NAS systems. Another thing to note is I plan to also purchase the Lifetime License for Plex as well.
If there are any upgrades that I can do to any of the two such as upgrade the RAM / add to the RAM or add a much better graphics card that will be dedicated to one of these please can you add that info in there as well.
Thank you
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How about surveillance station. Will it make any difference there if the cpu has built in graphics? E.g. I have 6 cameras, 3 of them 4k. They are running perfectly on a DS718+.
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Thank you. So if I get it, Rob said neither of these are ideal for 4k playback. So let’s forget transcoding for a minute. I am at home on my LAN and want to stream a 4K file to a 4K device. Which would be the best Synology NAS to do this? None? Or may be the potential upcoming DS922+ with an upgraded CPU and integrated graphics? The very expensive DS 1621xs+? I love Synology because of the software and really would hate to go somewhere else. Will Synology really abandon the prosumer niche and not have a NAS that can handle 4K video (via Plex)? Even without transcoding? Would welcome any idea or feedback. Thank you.
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https://youtu.be/m3rbGoXUPUo
Not sure if you two follow each other, but your countryman has finally posted about his new Synology. Thought it would be of interest. –JB
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my ds920+ came with a 120W power brick
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What NAS would people recommend for 4K playback?
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Very interesting as usual – Many thanks.
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And if you use It as a file server with something like Zappiti or similar?
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah just skip to 7:04 for the testing. Talk about a guy who can say so much with out saying hardly anything at all. Sheesh.
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SO the one thing to note is yes the 920 is the best here, You can do it with the 1522 but that’s a single source stream soon as you multi-stream with transcode its a much bigger win in respect to how many transcoding streams a 920 can handle vs a 1522 regardless of how dense your collection is.
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920+ FTW! Got it on your recommendation and I found it a great all-rounder. Plex, file backup, it does it all.
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Thank you for making this absolutely fascinating video.. watched to the end, learning so much from you and your channel. ????from me – Neil (UK)
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This isn’t the ideal use case for either device. What would be really interesting to see is how they compare in native app multitasking, perhaps VMs etc.
I still maintain the 1522 is a shameless downgrade not worth considering.
“Return YouTube dislike” addon for most browsers is what you want, Rob ????
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So glad to go with DS1522+. Why? Ticks so many more boxes to be future proof. Cheapest Synology 10 GB Capable
They both struggle with Plex. So I move Plex to Mac Mini and it will encode any freaking video. Or constant struggle Playing 4K on 920+
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So glad to go with 920+. Well done Rob.
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I pull the trigger on the ds920+ and never regret it (so far).
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So glad I got the DS920+
(Been wondering about the raw CPU When it comes to graphics performance and I guess I made the right decision)
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I cannot beleive that there is NO WAY to sync any folder and file type from android device to synology nas… that drives me nuts… it’s either super complicated third party app to configure or the only syncing possible is with ds file that does ONLY pictures or synology photo crap app… I just want to sync ANY folder and their files in it (like download, ringtones and so on)… why the hell can’t synology do such thing ??? ds cloud does NOT permit to sync android folder to nas, it only sync the cloud that is on the nas to the android device, I want the other way around, there is no way to sync android ANY type of android files to nas.. urgh…
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My synology is messing up my local network and I can’t figure out why. Internet drops for a few seconds every few min on all connected network devices. If I disconnect the NAS from the network, it seems to work just fine.
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Login Speed – seemed easier with entering user name and password on the same dialogue to only hit enter once, especially when credentials are stored in the browser. Perhaps they changed it for increased security, prefer the old way.
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8:40 – I wish we could find the person responsible for using a Funnel for the filter icon and make them walk the plank. Funnels are not filters.
But its too late now. The damage is done. People associate the funnel image with the filter action in software just like they associate the piece of paper with a folded corner for “new file”.
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The missing “For you” from moments sorely missed – it was a great AI system for finding potential duplicate (or near duplicate) photos that just doesn’t work as well as the storage manager reports that only really find exact duplicate pictures.
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1.Log center cant be modified or set to exclude users or certain things you dont want logged.
2.It is not compatible with DScloud anymore so you cant sync to mobile like you can do on DSM6 with the DSCloud app from Synology but you can use the Synology Package Center to download Resilio Sync or Good Sync but you have to pay a monthly/yearly fee for every user.
Unlike Qnap when you buy your hardware, you arent forced to pay for syncing from and to your own hardware.
With that said there is still a solution using Webdav to-way Nas-pc with Raidrive but you have to pay for software for Pro features.
Mobile sync: Use Foldersync to-way Mobile-Nas, but you have to pay for software for Pro features.
So far as i am aware of limitations using Synology DSM7 when it comes to syncing —> If you want Pro features or you want to use your Nas without reaching out to third-part software without paying extra fees it is recommended to switch to other Nas brands for me i feel Qnap has been working using 30 users for Laptop/Pc/Mac/Android/Iphone all Apps/Software working perfect Pro features without paying extra fee´s or forced to use third-part tools total control for Log center, File-Folder, Photo, Video, Virtualization, Web-sites and so much more.
Other annoying difference i had with Synology i had was this—> i had to make a ticket to find out i cant use Synology Mobile App DS Cloud or that one cant choose what Synology Package-Log Center loggs, it wont let you choose to include, exclude or to delete certain logg if you press Clear button on the loggs that are in “Files downloaded” it deletes all, if you clear “user logins” it deletes all that and you cant revert the deletion.
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Totally agree with your view on Photo Station. I’m glad you covered this as your feedback might get recognised. I don’t want to upgrade until Photos is comparable to what Photo Station had/has to offer.
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almost perfection?
Audio Station is totally broken, playback is being cut off,
Media indexing fails to scan more than 50% files,
translations in DSM are not complete, some even have nonsense,
I have no idea what Synology have been doing all the time releasing such buggy software
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918+ here with upgraded 16gb ram. Am I going to have issue if I upgrade to 7?
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How do I change dsm7 login page to have username and password on same page?
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Useful but a bit of a ramble with Robby. My time notes:
https://youtu.be/xZrjPF4nmRc?t=674
11:14 User Interface
12:00 Help Center
12:35 Control Panel
14:03 Security
15:27 Collaboration Suite
15:45 Synology Drive
17:18 Multimedia Apps
18:47 Plex and 3rd party app issues
19:47 DSM 7 background package integration improvements
20:25 HyperBackup, USB copy
21:24 Cloud Synchronization
22:27 Business Applications
23:30 Storage Manager
25:15 Fast Raid Repair
26:35 RAID 6 speedup
27:19 Bench testing, storage performance, UI improvements
29:00 Surveillance Station
30:04 Virtual Machine Manager
32:40 USB changes on DSM7
34:08 Security and UI
34:40 Resource Monitor and UI
35:00 Storage Analyzer
36:55 Recommendations
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I’ve installed it as a VM on my DS1821+ and I’m completely disappointed with the new photos app. Maybe I’m old fashioned idk but the way timeline view is implemented it doesn’t allow you to look at a timeline on an album level anymore like you could do in photostation. You have to choose between album view or timeline view. I like to look at my photos different ways and this makes the app kind of unusable for me. Additionally I would like them to shows tags on the timeline view when you’re inside an album that has multiple albums underneath it but no photos in it directly. I’ve reached out to them but very little hope of it getting done in my opinion. I’m not upgrading until photos is useable as photostation is no longer supported on dsm7. Additionally I had a lot of indexing / conversion issues on my VM with my photos directory. Not sure if that’s just a VM issue or not
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you talk way too much unnecessarily !!
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The audio is of sync with the video
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Since when Synology uses china domains ? Isn’t it Taiwanese company ?
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How to downgrade back to 6.2?
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Hi. Is it safe and or good for my Synology 920+ to be shut down during the night and sometimes for 30 days at a time while away? Many thanks for your great videos.
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I upgraded both my DS 218J and my brand new DS920+ to DSM 7.0 and liking it a lot! No real problems. Moments with my Photos lost its tags during the transition to Synology Photos. I have to redo them but that’s ok. Everything else is great. I agree with this review.
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so is there any reason for me to wait for the DSM update to come through automatically on my DS1520+ or should I just manually update now? Is it likely that more changes will be made to it before the automatic update comes through?
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Boomer taskbar, jam packed .. just needs a few AoL or Geocities taskbars floating on the desktop to finish the effect.
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No Java= no jdownloader????????
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Does DSM 7 introduce any issues with access via the NFS protocol? I use my DS420j strictly as a file server in a Linux environment and do not really care about photo station, music station, etc. Quick, reliable access via NFS is my main concern. Thank you for your fine videos.
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Photos all seemed to work once I requested a re-indexing. However, photo sharing is completely broken. Even if you request that anyone can view with a URL, Synology NAS still requests a username and password. Sigh…………………
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I notice the absence of Amazon S3 on the cloud service for HyperBackup… Is it still possible to backup to Amazon S3 Glacier storage in DSM7? Or they removed it not to compete with their own C2 solution?
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Thanks for your valuable videos. I missed the loss of DS Cloud, so syncing became a problem. I started using Syncthing after upgrading to DSM7. I also have a problem with Synology Drive from my laptop on a company network, while using Express VPN. It keeps trying to connect to the server. When I switch off the VPN it works fine. Maybe I will switch to Syncthing on this Windows machine as well. For me this is a key function for a NAS so I didn’t expect it to work less good. But all and all it’s a big improvement.
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For anyone has done the upgrade, how long did it take please ?
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Great video, thank you!
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No mention of the issues with third party packages that worked fine in 6.2.4 but no longer work in DSM 7, it might be almost perfect IF you only use Synology apps.
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Not upgrading until they add support for android folder backup/syncing!
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Hello, I am sure that it will surely be for reasons of not extending the video too much, but your way of showing and explaining the news and characteristics of this new DSN are not very clear, at least for me you are going too fast and a bit messy. I’m not saying it in a bad way but I think you could do it in a more calm and neat way. Thank you very much anyway.
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DSM 7, adding support for Google Shared drives via Cloudsync is a Big + for me
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I use a KDLinks media stream box to watch movies and videos I store on my Synology NAS DS918+. Does DSM 7.0 support the ability for the stream box to sign into the NAS and stream the files?
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i don’t like in the Download station the “downloading” word is blue and no longer green
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This man is clicking faster than his shadow ????
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20:53 I ran into the exact issue you have 2 days ago on DSM6.2.4. I opened a support ticket that is still open, however I suspect it’s a browser based issue. Try opening in a different browser and see if you can view all of the back up options in that. It’s a Munster to me how this happened as I even cleared my browser cache and it persisted in Firefox. When I opened in safari it was “fixed}
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Who knew FooOOZ is the correct pronunciation of FooToes. Just kidding ????
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Great video – in general the audio is a bid low on your videos, would it be possible to turn it up a notch? Thanks 🙂
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Show idea, upgrading synology hardware. Example, use a ds213 case and change the motherboard to a newer model including modifying the case for USB ports if needed.
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Your shows are good, however, can you please make them shorter/succinct. Perhaps add text boxes on the screen so we can see that as you move on. Again, you do a fantastic job ???? thanks for your hard work.
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Photos was over-promised, and under-delivered…. Mostly hype
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One thing I’d love is for larger NAS to support mounting volume from older smaller NAS.
For instance, I had an old DS411j that failed on me, one of the drive failed but the NAS was full, so now I can’t even start it up. I just wish I could buy some of the 12 slots new NAS and then mount my 4 old drive into the new system and then just transfer data and format the old drives to add them to the new volume. I asked Synology if we can do that, their answer: nope, unless you build a Linux computer and mount drives on Linux and transfer your data. If I need to build a Linux computer, I’d better off just to use FreeNAS and never have to deal with Synology DSM…
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Microsoft Edge is base on Chromium, so any issues you have with Chrome will most likely happen in Edge as well. You need to test on browses like Firefox that are not base on Chromium.
I use Firefox and only have one M.2 slot filled and the 4 HDDs bays are full. Testing what I could zooming out made the empty M.2 disappear. It did not make the icon show under the other one as shown by you..
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What’s the later on PLEX… yesterday I was advice to use Docker as PLEX is not installing correctly?
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still no on-demand sync for Synology Drive w/ Mac OS in DSM7. Synology really dropped the ball for Mac support. DSM7 not worth the hassle.
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Is it possible how do a clean install Synology dsm 7 on my new Synology ds1520Plus?
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I would have liked more analytics inside VPN Server eg bandwidth consumption from each user (up/down) ????????♂️
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i have a test DS119j and upgraded it to DSM 7 and it’s very slow. Tested 4gb of photo’s and the database is going on for days.
Going to upgrade my DS1821+ now. Hope 10GB will still work.
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For the past week, Universal Search has been HOARDING CPU and RAM!
Indexing just goes on and on and on, non stop!
I can’t find a workaround!
Disabling Universal Search in DSM 7, disables Synology Drive and Synology Office
Instructions for this problem, found on forums, are all for DSM 6 and DON’T work on DSM 7
This is pathetic!
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For me it doesn’t matter as much if the new apps arent quite as good as the old ones yet as long as they have been written on a newer platform that easier to add missing and new features later rather than an app that was based on ds 4. Apple’s old website went down before a launch not to increase excitement but because it was old and rubbish and had to be .
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2fa should be incorporated Into DS finder having said that authy is miles better as you can transfer it to other devices
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Did you do a manual update or did DSM 7.0 show as an update automatically? It has not shown up on my RS1221+ or DS216+II in Canada yet…
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Still I have hibernation issue and I opened a ticket with Synology support. After analyzing the debug logs, they came back with SMB and VMM are the cause of periodic waking up of HDD’s. But still I couldn’t find an answer from support that why this periodic waking up which exactly happens each hour related to VMM and SMB, assuming no laptops connected to NAS in the test period and no VM was running. Will update in case support answers me.
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