Synology DS1525+ NAS Revealed

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Synology DS1525+ NAS News

UPDATE 7th May 2025:

The Synology DS1825+ and DS1525+ NAS have been released in the Eastern Regions (likely globally in the coming weeks), as well as the Synology DS925+ NAS Now being available globally. Below are news and review articles for these devices:

The Synology DS1525+ is the latest five-bay NAS, designed as a successor to the DS1522+, and introducing notable improvements in processing, network speed, and storage expansion. The most significant change in this model is the upgrade from the AMD R1600 dual-core, four-thread processor to the AMD V1500B quad-core, eight-thread CPU, bringing it in line with higher-tier business-class NAS devices. This improvement results in better multitasking performance, more efficient virtualization, and enhanced Docker and containerized application support, making the DS1525+ an attractive option for businesses, power users, and IT professionals. The system still ships with 8GB of ECC DDR4 memory by default, ensuring data integrity and system stability, with expandable options for users who require more resources. However, integrated graphics remain absent, meaning hardware-accelerated media transcoding is not supported, reinforcing Synology’s strategy of positioning this model primarily for business and productivity users rather than home multimedia setups.

(Specs below based on the DS1525+ Information shared online by 3rd parties, with DS1522+ specs that are likely correct)

Specification Details
Model Synology DS1525+
Processor AMD V1500B (Quad-Core, 8 Threads)
CPU Frequency 2.2 GHz (Base Clock)
Memory 8GB DDR4 ECC (Expandable)
Drive Bays 5 x 3.5”/2.5” SATA HDD/SSD
Maximum Storage Varies based on drive selection
M.2 Slots 2 x M.2 NVMe (for SSD cache, no storage pool support)
RAID Support Basic, JBOD, RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6, RAID 10
Network 2 x 2.5GbE RJ-45 (Link Aggregation & Failover Support)
PCIe / Expansion No PCIe Slot; No 10GbE Upgrade Option (TBC!!!)
USB Ports 2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 (5Gbps)
Expansion Support DX525 via USB-C
Expansion Transfer Speed 6Gbps (USB-C)
eSATA Support Not Available (Replaced by USB-C)
File System Btrfs, EXT4
Max Concurrent Connections ~2,048 (Varies by workload)
Virtualization Support VMware, Citrix, Microsoft Hyper-V, Docker
Surveillance Support Yes (Synology Surveillance Station)
Multimedia Transcoding No Hardware-Accelerated Transcoding
Power Supply External 120W Adapter
Cooling 2 x 92mm Fans
Noise Level ~20.3 dB(A)
Power Consumption ~29W (Idle) / ~45W (Under Load)
Chassis Material Metal & Plastic
Dimensions (HxWxD) 166 x 230 x 223 mm
Weight ~2.5 kg (Without Drives)
Operating Temperature 5°C – 40°C
Compatible OS Synology DSM 7.2+
Price (Estimated) TBD (Likely similar to DS1522+)
Warranty 3 Years Standard (5 Years with Extended Warranty)

A notable improvement in the DS1525+ is the upgrade from 1GbE to dual 2.5GbE network ports, delivering faster data transfers, better support for high-bandwidth tasks, and more efficient multi-user access. This upgrade is particularly useful for small and medium-sized businesses that rely on high-speed data sharing, large file transfers, and cloud synchronization. With link aggregation enabled, users can double their network throughput, reducing bottlenecks when accessing data from multiple clients. However, Synology has removed support for the E10G22-T1-MINI 10GbE adapter, which was an option in the previous DS1522+ model. While 2.5GbE is an improvement over 1GbE, some businesses and creative professionals may find the lack of 10GbE expandability to be a limiting factor if they rely on ultra-fast network speeds for large-scale workflows, video production, or virtualized environments.

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Another significant modification is the transition from eSATA to USB-C for external expansion, reflecting a broader shift across Synology’s 2025 NAS lineup. The DS1525+ is fully compatible with the new DX525 expansion unit, allowing users to increase their storage capacity via a more widely supported interface. However, one unusual aspect of the specification sheet is that Synology lists the USB-C expansion connection at 6Gbps, which doesn’t align with the standard speeds of USB 3.2 (typically 5Gbps or 10Gbps). This inconsistency raises questions about whether Synology is employing a proprietary implementation, a USB-to-SATA bridge, or if there are internal limitations affecting the transfer rate. Additionally, as Synology has been tightening compatibility with third-party drives, it remains to be seen how this new expansion method will handle non-Synology branded storage devices.

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The DS1525+ delivers a strong balance of performance, connectivity, and scalability, making it a great choice for businesses seeking a reliable, high-speed NAS with virtualization support and SSD caching capabilities. The transition to a quad-core CPU, improved 2.5GbE networking, and the modernized USB-C expansion interface ensures that this NAS remains relevant for years to come. However, the removal of 10GbE upgradeability and the continued absence of an integrated GPU may limit its appeal for users looking for high-speed networking or media-friendly features. If Synology maintains the same pricing structure as the DS1522+, the DS1525+ will be a competitive mid-range NAS for professional environments. However, for those needing greater networking flexibility or multimedia capabilities, exploring alternative models in Synology’s 2025 lineup may be necessary.

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      932 thoughts on “Synology DS1525+ NAS Revealed”

      2. I bought a Synology several years ago to dedicate to Surveillance Station. So I will probably always have one. But any other NAS/Server setup will definitely not be Synology.
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      3. The DSM is a state of art product, but what they are doing is beyond common sense. Just let users decide whether they want to use ‘non compliant’ storage. It worked on older models so why not on the new releases?
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      4. What UPS would you recommend for this NAS, I got a APC Back-UPS Pro BR1600MI but it has 8 IEC sockets and not UK sockets. I would think a UK seller would have UK sockets and not IEC ones?
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      7. Switched from Netgear RN424 to the DS920+ and love at first use. Bought another and slightly older used one for an off site backup. Was helping my dad with the new DS925+ coming out as he still had the Netgear too. Wow. Downhill fast. I don’t want to relearn with Ugreen or similar, but this is a bit harsh and damaging.
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      10. Can a Synology storage pool be migrated to another manufacturer’s NAS enclosure?

        When it’s time to replace my enclosure, can I just buy another, and move my drives over?
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      11. Do any existing Syno customers like the vendor’s new policy ? Surely a majority are on-board, but how do they reason away the single-source storage media limitation? “Single-source” is usually a risk to be avoided. You don’t usually want your own business to be dependent on a single vendor, and certainly not on a vendor who’s experiencing backlash and boycott from other customers.
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      15. Obviously they are after money here. That is understandable, and perhaps even fair (given that you get a lot of software for free with the purchase of a NAS). From here, they should add 2 more options for the user (in addition to “buy only our drives”):

        1. Allow the users to purchase a “license” to add any drive they want. The license should be reasonably priced (no +$100 or more per drive nonsense).
        2. Work with the manufacturers of other drives and have them pay the money to Synology behind the scenes. (This would be similar to how Google pays Reddit to be able to index their website.)

        There is an implicit 3rd option too – considerably raise the prices for Synology NAS, or even sell software licenses separately. I doubt these choices will be popular among consumers either.
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      20. Everyone in 2024: There’s so many more NAS options coming out I can’t wait for Synology to roll out with something amazing to beat them all!

        Synology in 2025: We’re barely going to give you what we already have been minus a few things.
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      21. I wonder if rebuilding or expanding the RAID on the migrated disks would be possible after disabling the scan as per the instructions:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKS1lSaXJN8
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      22. Video idea: compare the mobile (android & ios) apps for the major operating systems. My synology recently died and rather liked their apps, looking at others brand I see low ratings which makes me quite uncertain which one to pick next.
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      24. The scenario about not being able to repair a migrated raid with the same exact model of (previously verified but now unverified) drive is incredibly customer-hostile for a NAS provider. I am sorry, but there is no reasoning that makes that ok, in my opinion, and you might as well have stopped the testing there as it is a full-stop deal breaker.
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      26. What the hell… somebody needs to make Synology visible on the EU commission’s radar perhaps to remind them what happened to Apple and their “closed ecosystem”!

        With the help of chatGPT… 😀

        Dear Synology Team,

        I am writing to formally express my outrage and disappointment regarding your recent decision to restrict functionality for non-Synology hard drives on your newer NAS devices.

        As the owner of multiple Synology NAS units, I find it utterly unacceptable that your policy now breaks support for any system using drives not on your proprietary “verified” list. Most critically, this move prevents the repair or rebuilding of RAID/storage pools containing previously functioning third-party drives. This not only violates basic consumer trust but actively sabotages working systems with no technical justification beyond vendor lock-in.

        Let me be clear: you are coercing your customers into using your overpriced, vendor-locked drives through what can only be described as software-level sabotage. This is not about “compatibility” — this is about cornering the market and eliminating competition through artificial restrictions.

        As of today, I am already in contact with:

        The European Commission’s Directorate-General for Competition (DG COMP)
        Consumer rights organizations within the EU
        Multiple technology journalists and media outlets across Europe, some of whom are already covering your anti-consumer practices
        The European Union has made its position abundantly clear with recent enforcement against Apple, requiring them to open their ecosystem under the Digital Markets Act (DMA). I believe Synology’s actions fall into the same anti-competitive category — and I fully intend to see this investigated and enforced at the EU level.

        I am proceeding with:

        Immediate termination of use of all Synology NAS devices under my control
        Formal regulatory complaints to EU authorities regarding anti-competitive conduct
        Public exposure of these practices through European tech media and consumer watchdog channels
        Legal review of consumer rights violations and planned obsolescence tactics under EU law
        This is your opportunity to correct course before regulators intervene. I demand:

        A formal statement from Synology addressing this issue
        Immediate rollback of policies that block functionality for non-Synology drives
        Guaranteed future support for open and interoperable drive usage
        I expect a response, and I expect transparency. This issue will not go away quietly.

        Sincerely,
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      27. I left a comment here yesterday with the solution/workaround. Seems it was deleted?? Is @NASCompares in Synologys pocket?

        There is a GitHub script you can run that updates the Synology HDD database on your machine so it sees your ‘illegal’ drives as legit.
        Just search for syno_HDD_db
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      32. The 2025 Synology line has suddenly become so uninteresting. I feel very sad for the brand and reputation which had been so successful since the DS508 days.
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      33. Hi. Great stuff from you! As always.
        Thank you very much.
        Also will you test RAM modules? If there is the same compatibility rules as for HDD? Will 3rd party work?
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      34. I have been a user, fan and partner since the DS508, DS509 days, but this Synology HDD requirement is a deal breaker. Very sad that Synology is diverting from its original path that has made it so successful through the years. Looking forward to new and more affordable open source hardware like the Minisforum N5 Pro, Ugreen, Asustor, etc.
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      36. Bought last year’s four-bay system for home use to replace my Drobo which . . . you know. I don’t imagine I’ll ever need another, and if I do, there’s eBay. I feel fortunate I got in before this nonsense arose.
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      39. Just installed over the weekend and returning. Noise levels way too high for me. (Need to work with the NAS in my home office) I’m going back to my 718+ for now. Might go for the 725+.
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      41. I own a 1621+ with a (third party ????) 10GBe card. 4 years have passed and there is absolutely zero benefit of this new station, even the CPU is the same. And on top only Synology drives canbe used. Absolutely ridiculous.
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      43. Does this only affect the new diskstations or do they also plan to add this restrictions to older ones? Just in case, can you flash your DS to switch to another os? ????
        I swear if they sneakily add this to a future “security” update, I will lose my shit ???? figuratively and literally lol
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      44. Imagine buying a car and they won’t let you put on 3rd part tires, windshield wipers, or oil filters

        Oh and their branded ones cost more, are harder to find, & aren’t any better than other options
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      46. Synology are totally a** … I already felt that after the Intel CPU disaster with the DS415+ models, where the devices started dying after only 1,5-2 years!
        The issue was caused by the Intel Atom C2538 CPU, which had a well-known hardware flaw (LPC clock degradation) that led to system crashes and total failure. Synology knew about this problem – they fixed it at newer revisions – yet they denied everything and offered no real support.
        Over 150 users on Amazon reported the same issue after around two years of use, but Synology never acknowledged it publicly. Instead of offering a fix or any goodwill gesture, they lied to their customer and just sent me a link to a new NAS model. No replacement, no discount, no technical solution – just silence.
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      47. You are way to considrate with Synology.
        The recomendation should be: Do NOT buy Synology 25 series until a lot more 3rd party drives are certified.
        In my own consulting business I will be buying a QNAP with a view to learning it, and changing my clients over to it, unless Synology quickly changes policy.
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      48. Synology has been my go to for me and my customers, the last gen is the last synology I use, going forward I’m going to use ugreen instead, what a greedy company synology has become.
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      49. The motivation for Synology to limit drives: Greed
        The reason for the aggressive warning and preventing even basic repair features to work: Greed
        The basis for claiming only verified drives can be used: literally: Nonexistent (no, synology, one firmware issue a decade ago does not count)

        We will see if collapsing sales numbers will get one of the synology managers to stop sniffing their own farts long enough to stop this self destructive crapshow.
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      50. well this information set me back big… was thinking to go from my 2 bay DS220+ to a 8 bay with the capassaty to add 2 mor 5 bay cabinets . i can get synology drives in my contry but the price on them is not even close to a regular one and i am thinking a bout the future… 8+5+5 drive in 4 Tb is a desent storage but i was thinking to have the 8 in a raid 0 and one of the other 2 as a cold storage in a raid 5 with the last as a backup in a raid 5. so the activ raid will have about 29 Tb the cold storage about 14.5 Tb and that indecating that i need to have atlest 33,5 Tb in the backup. and in that case i need to get 5 10Tb drives for the backup. and that will cost me 3 times what the SD-unit cost itself… that´s not possible… not with my income so i am thinking to check other comparnyis solutions or build me my own PC-server/nas/router so everything is in the same setup… it will probely be more of a hassle but i thing that´s the bast solution… maybe this is not for this but i have sean mor and mor comparnyis is doing stuff to F with peapol… sory for the rambeling and anny miss spelling … have dyslexia
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      52. Why do you insist on reviewing terribly expensive nases. I would like you to review nases like synologys cheaper 4 bay ones for half!!! the price. Or how to build them.
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      55. Does the 1525+ have a lock on using SSDs for storage? I know you said the 925+ doesn’t have the lock on the SSDs but you didn’t mention it here. They don’t show any SSDs on the compatibility list for the 1525+ so I assume that’s the case?
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      56. Man, imagine if Apple made a NAS, this would be about what you’d get. Un-freaking-acceptable. Be it commercial or consumer, people use these as a way to preserve and secure their data and the tests here confirm that Synology cannot be trusted with that data.

        I also do not trust that they are taking any haste in whitelisting additional drives. Why would they? Whitelisted drives are exclusively Synology branded, which will carry a markup. It isn’t like WD and Seagate are gonna give them a portion of their sales should some of their drives get whitelisted.

        In fact, the idea of a whitelist/blacklist for this kind of device is offensive. Trust your damn users, please!! I cannot believe that there is an issue widespread enough coming from WD and Seagate(who are almost certainly the producers of the vast majority of the drives that end up in these enclosures) that this kind of lockdown is necessary. If it was an issue, you’d hear it from them or their customers, but near as I can tell, its crickets.

        As someone in your guest discussion video said, the best option was to either let them all work, or don’t even allow migration and lock it down airtight. At least with the latter, you go in knowing the situation and know to buy additional drives as cold spares.
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      62. I have an 1821+. I use all 4 Ethernet ports. 2 are bonded on my primary VLAN, one is on my camera VLAN, and the other is on my IoT VLAN. The switch to two 2.5s isn’t that big of a deal. I could just bond them and set up firewall rules to allow the NAS onto the other VLANs. I’m not even that upset about the drive issue. My problem is how much they are lagging behind in other regards. A CPU released in Q1 of ’18? I’m not asking for bleeding edge, or even cutting edge, but a 7+ Year old CPU? That’s just lazy, cheap, or both. It’s like they didn’t even try. I’m better off getting regular NASs that are just NASs, and setting up Proxmox boxes for the rest. I might be better off just setting up a Proxmox cluster that includes NASs. I liked Synology since it was ready to go out of the box, but at work, I’ve been setting up Proxmox clusters with replication and HA. The clusters are reliable, easy to set up, and far more redundant than a second NAS to replicate the primary.
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      63. Don’t envy your job here with all the negative Synology comments. I agree the updates are disappointing and Synology overall has dropped the ball. As an example I was looking to upgrade from my 4 bay to a 5 bay hoping they would have a full slot for a true SFP card. That would eliminate adapters to my network. Also, as an alternative, hoped the mini NIC would at some point come out with a SFP version. I purchased a 923+, and it sits new in the box thinking the 5 bay would come out and I would sell it as new and recoup some of the money laid out.

        With your review of the 1525+ it seems there is no reason not to just deploy the 4 bay without the drive restrictions and just settle for the mini NIC with the ethernet adapter. I have 4 newer hard drives that I would not even be able to easily migrate without potential issues. Not smart Synology.

        Have learned so much from all your videos and it is much appreciated. I think continuing those reviews, even if not favorable, is important and very helpful. In my situation it seems you have provided the information that helped me determined to just unbox what I have and deal with the limitations.

        Best.
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      65. This basically kills off the feasibility of upgrading from an old model if currently using third party drives.

        A) It means that even if a third party drive is under warranty, a replacement would be rendered useless.
        B) If you have to replace a third party drive, you’ll end up with an array with different brands, which is something Synology seems to be against now, after years of it being one of their great selling points.

        I hope my six year old DS418Play lasts a good long time. I had been planning on upgrading, but its eventual replacement will not be Synology unless they undo these ridiculous changes.

        I’m having a hard time figuring out Synology’s logic here, but It’s my guess that they predict not being able to stop the loss of SOHO customers to the likes of UGREEN and won’t reduce their prices to counter that, so have decided to drop that sector and gouge the corporate realm.
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      66. Synology will achieve its goal of fewer support calls with this strategy. When no one buys the product they won’t call for support. I will never upgrade to one of these new NAS.
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      67. New advert from ebuyer, ????
        “Various Drives to choose from, QNAP doesn’t limit you to proprietary drives, but is compatible with a wide array of drive brands and models”
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      68. Wow, still making excuses for this scumbag company. There is zero reason for them not to have other drivers verified before releasing. They are the worst anti consumer pile of crap company. At this point, there is nothing that Synology can do to get back as customer. I do not know what brand NAS my replacement for my DS1815+ will be but regardless what anti consumer pile of crap Synology those it will not be a Synology drive. They have proved that they will screw over the customer. That coming from some that had a Synology router. Has deployed Synology NAS at work. Has recommended Synology as a company for years. I cannot believe you’re still making excuses for this pile of crap company. There is zero reason to release a new NAS and not test any driver but their own before launch, other than to milk the customer for as much cash as possible.
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      70. Appreciate the work. Was already convinced I was leaving but now I have new concerns about what to do if an older Synology dies and the drives need to go into a newer unit. That’s data loss territory! Exactly what your NAS vendor should NOT EVER be baking in. Screw ‘em. Bye.
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      71. You must be aware that the compatibility check can be disabled ?
        Can we form an orderly queue for you to add this feature . . . for the less tech advanced people ?
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      80. Who buys Synology products anymore? Compared to their competition Synology products are overpriced, use outdated technology (i.e. ancient CPUs), have artificial limitations (i.e. no 10gb NIC, extremely limited USB devices support) and now lock HDD compatibility to Synology drives only.
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      82. Synology has tested and supported many Seagate western digital drives for years

        They clearly do not want to add these to the list, to maximize their profits

        If they add any, it will simply be due to pressures
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      84. Thank you very much for another unbiased video.

        It seems that many tech companies have recently lost their way. Is it the system of shareholders? Is it incompetence?

        I no longer offer a few established names to my customers. Synology is one of them,
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      87. Good bye Synology. I’ve used your products both personally and professionally in my own personal business, I’ve deployed them to TONS of customer sites, and I use them currently in my daily profession in Public Safety. After your recent anti-consumer policies and unsupported 3rd party hardware I am going to migrate ALL of my products and services to pfSense and TrueNAS and my own hardware.

        R.I.P. Synology. It’s been real, it’s been fun, but a HUGE mistake on your part and it’s going to cost you thousands of customers most likely more.
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      90. Can you still use these units to run the plex media server as its main purpose?
        This is what I use my DS1520 for (the last one with Celeron processor).
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      91. Though I understand and appreciate why you need to cover the new 25+ range from Synology, I think most here have lost all interest in this new series. Synology have killed the appeal of any of the new 25 range due to their insane drive lock in policy. This new restriction, in my opinion, made all the DSxx25+ range of Synology NAS’s DOA.
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      92. I’ve been waiting 18 months for the 25+ series to arrive so I could upgrade my DS420+. After considering all of my options, I bought an 1821+ so I could easily migrate my existing SHR1 drives. This is likely my last Synology purchase. Who knows if this company will even be around in 5 years. I’ll figure it what to do then I guess.
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      93. They seem to have bigger agenda with this. They want us home and SOHO users to be mad and leave ship so they can stop making home NAS boxes and focus solely on the enterprise market.
        After 15 years I’m fed up with their policy and moving away to Qnap and QuTS Hero.
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      94. My journey with multiple Synology NAS units, spanning well over a decade, appears to have met its end. The DS918+ will have been my last Synology product.
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      96. I really enjoy your videos and over the years find them informative, but no matter how you cut it Synology just isn’t trying any longer. Yes the drive lock issue does bother me for my home use for my business use I don’t have a huge issue with it. My issue now is really hardware doesn’t change enough for 7+ years on average and the software just stopped being enhanced 3-4 years ago when they did a huge push for cloud addition. It feels like all software efforts have moved to their new line of units vs shaping the current product.

        They are more than welcome to go down this path but for me and what I spend my time learning and following Synology is starting to fall off my list.
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      98. Excellent presentation. Thank you. I know these 2025 new release Synology videos are going to be hard to make. It will be interesting to see if they hold their line tight or change directions over the next year. Either way, they are a no-go for me moving forward.
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      100. Thank you for such an in-depth overview of the scenarios, very useful indeed. As a reseller of Synology devices this was disappointing news, I have been selling Synology NAS’s for years and are my go-to NAS, for now I will not be recommending the newer models and stick with the older series which do support 3rd party drives, while they are still available. Hopefully Synology will work with the 3rd parties such as WD and Seagate to make their products certified in the future. Otherwise there are other NAS vendors that their customers will move to and their sales and reputation will undoubtedly suffer.
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      102. Synology warns users that Kingston, Samsung, WD, Seagate, and SK Hynix are at risk. This is a direct confrontation between Synology’s own brand value and the above storage device manufacturers.
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      103. Sorry that I couldn’t watch the entire video Robbie but I did give it a Thumbs Up. My in-laws are arriving in the next hour or so and I have to move my 8 bay QNAP into the guest bedroom and get the nightly RAID scrubbing schedule set before they get here. Cheers mate… ( PS, to enhance the effect, put your spare change and keys in a ceramic dish and leave that on the top of your NAS. Works wonders.)
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      106. Have been thinking about updating my 918+, I hope Synology expands the drive compatibilty soon so also non-Synology drives become compatible. My WD Reds Pro are doing amazing
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      107. I think you need to move away from being a synology yes man and start covering other manufacturers a lot more as they are the future, synology isnt. The hardware is crap in comparrison ot others and its software while good is just stagnent.
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      112. Please stop mentioning that the Price Stayed the Same. This seems to be the Only good thing about These new nas Systems. No need to to Highlight it when the System is Crap thanks.
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      116. I bought a 1522+ in January of this year. I prefer having the 4 x 1Gb ports because I still have a gigabit switch internally, plus I have multiple VLANs so it makes it easier for bonding and for the VLANs. Although I use Synology drives, it’s nice I have the flexibility to use non-Synology drives in the future if I want to.
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      118. I;’d rather cough up an extra £100 for the device as long as I can stick whatever brand drives I want in there. With 20TB Synology drives going for £800 and Tosh doing 20TB drives for £320 – its a no brainer to spend that extra on the device itself while saving HUNDREDS on drives. Heck, Id probably get the expansion and fill that up with 20TB tosh drives too. I’ve reached the limit on my current setup (ds718+ and a ds218j) so NEED to expand but QNAP might be where I’m heading from what I am seeing. Expensive device but better hardware and better drive support.
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      119. Synology has ruined it for me if I cannot use a brand of drive I want to use i.e. I love the Toshiba’s that I have – I think they’re N300s? 15gb drives, I’m running short on space, I want to upgrade and I want to just pop the drives in but if Synology is going to refuse my tosh’s then I’m going to have to go to a different NAS brand which is a shame as I have gotten use to the Synology and Plex runs well on there so I’m pretty gutted about Synology’s choice with HDDs. Its a real shame.
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      122. Here’s a disturbing thought…. Blocking non-validated drives is based on a ‘whitelist’ of ‘validated’ drives. That automatically means that somewhere on the NAS there’s a file that contains that list. What if that file gets corrupted? What if some Synology employee makes a booboo and puts a typo in there? What if there’s a ‘soon to be ex-Synology employee with a grudge’ who does that on purpose? And those corrupt files slip through QA? Things like that happen, and no matter how hard Synology is going to say it won’t I know it can, and probably will happen at some point. That might render your NAS unusable, or at ‘best’ cause you to have all these non validated drive issues with drives that might be perfectly validated and otherwise good. Artificial blocking in such ways is a recipe for disaster.

        Mind you, I totally understand validation of hardware for vendors of NASes, and such. I have absolutely NO problem with them doing that. They have to keep their support costs under control (or charge the customers with the difference, which will make them much more expensive, etc). But this is just a stupid implementation of this policy.
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      126. Synology would have been much smarter to just license their software to any DIY nas device. As it stands now there is zero reason to update to a unit with sub par specs with a software that enforces terrible HDD choices at a premium.
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      130. Love your content, and you keep doing you, but yeah, whenever I see a Synology NAS review, I’m not watching the video anymore until they change tune. Here’s hoping I’m alone in my actions and your channel which has always produced great content doesn’t suffer.
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      141. so some nutbar who doesn’t understand the concept of a tech reviewer and how said reviewers pay bills has decided to start tagging anyone who comments on your and probably other channels videos in ways that aren’t completely derogatory, and then gets extra salty and insulting when you tell them not to tag you.

        really seems to have an active grudge against plex as well. i mean, i dislike the direction they moved, and there’s better free options out there, but i’m not going to plant my flag on a hill to defend that ridiculously like this one seems to be doing.
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      143. Since Synology does NOT manufacture any hard disks, what’s the reason for being forced to adopt “Synology “ drives? The fancy label? The executives’ wages?
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      151. Thank God I didn’t get into synology when I decided to acquire my first NAS. All these companies seem to go down this route, when they got you into their walled garden, they start blackmailing you for more and more money, because line must go up
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      155. Nope. It’s not for me, so I’ve just bought an old DS1812+ from eBay with 44TB in it for £600. Yeah it’s old and slow but it’ll be enough for my media storage and family backups. And it was cheap enough so I can upgrade some of the drives to larger ones.
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      156. Took my drives out of my older 4 bay synology and placed them along eith 3 others in a brand new unraid machine… I was waiting forever for this 1825+, but then the news came about the HD situation… I have 2 other Synology’s up and running until they fail. Its really too bad, I really like synology (at least the software side). Bye forever Synology.
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      157. One big YAWN ????! They have made no compelling reason for existing users to upgrade. I feel like I’ll get more out of my DS1821+ with 32GB ECC RAM and a 10GbE NIC. Maybe they will catch a few new NAS users who won’t know any better, but bottom line bang for your buck has steadily been reducing.
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      158. One big YAWN ????! They have made no compelling reason for existing users to upgrade. I feel like I’ll get more out of my DS1821+ with 32GB ECC RAM and a 10GbE NIC. Maybe they will catch a few new NAS users who won’t know any better, but bottom line bang for your buck has steadily been reducing.
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      159. Never buying any Synology product again. They’re overpriced, their hardware spec is way outdated, and now they’re practising enshittification by locking in users to their ecosystem of products.
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      160. Never buying any Synology product again. They’re overpriced, their hardware spec is way outdated, and now they’re practising enshittification by locking in users to their ecosystem of products.
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      161. When I first discovered the NAS Compares channel over a year ago my thought was once I’d made my NAS purchase I’d not have a need for the channel anymore. I was wrong! Thanks for keeping us in the know.
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      165. who will use andorid or iphone? our symbian os is so greate…. So sinology was good, probably the best, but time goes forward not backwards. this year they will have drop of sale for sweating of some higher up guys, next year they will be in panic mode. And funny things is there is no going back. Too late to do anything….
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      166. thanks synology, finally 2.5gbit network by default. old cpu and no support for ddr5 memory. and only synology hardware support. and worst tech support. still dsm doesnot have dark theme. No more synology. Recently Synology is no longer in my compatibility list. I am done.
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      168. Synology could at least limit support to only enterprise drives. I think everyone understands shucked drives from inexpensive USB enclosures are prone to fail. But sheesh, there are plenty of enterprise drives that are still less expensive than Synology drives.
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      169. There aren’t many reviews of the N100 ugreen NAS’s, most are for the other CPUs and the idle power consumption is a big turn off for those for me and I’d guess a lot of users. I was looking at a zima blade 2 but the 2 bay ugreen offers a lot more I think for most users and could end up being cheaper after import duties… I think a review of those models would do well!
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      171. QNAP should launch a migration program. Before Synology was far ahead in terms of Easy to use, they still are but the difference is no longer relevant for most users.
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      172. Synology doesn’t even explicitly state that an HDD is mandatory. It’s just mentioned in the footnotes.: “Kompatible Laufwerke sind obligatorisch. Bitte konsultieren Sie unsere Kompatibilitätsliste, bevor Sie Festplatten kaufen. Für weitere Details lesen Sie bitte diesen Artikel.”
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      177. I was wondering if that script that adds your drives to the “compatible list” works on the ’25 units, and if that’d be a way around the migrated pool and a drive failure/adding same disk test?
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      182. This is the one I was waiting to buy as my first NAS for over 3 years. I’ll keep my windows 10 PC with its 8x24Tb ironwolf pro as my main Plex server and storage location. They just saved me thousands of Can$.

        Synology peut ben s’étouffer avec leurs limitations de drives à marde. ????????

        Comme si un NAS drive professionnel de WD ou Seagate, les deux plus grands manufacturiers de Hdd au monde n’étaient pas assez bon / fiable pour leur NAS. This is BS.
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      185. If Synology will not let me use my own WD Data Center drives then I will have to ditch Synology! I will not be locked into their product hemisphere!
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      188. I’m so happy with my DS1821+. I can see those waiting for a new 8-bay From Synology deciding to go with the older model and saving some cash too.

        I have concerns with regard the 1825+ using USB-C to connect the optional DX525 expansion units rather than the prior ESATA method. I’ve found that connecting to an external drive via USB, instead of ESATA, prevents the S.M.A.R.T info from being read.

        Also, Synology wouldn’t go so far as to replace four 1GbE ports with 4 2.5GbE ports as it would negate the need for their 10GbE expansion card.
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      192. Yikes!! Whoever pushed and shoved this decision through at Synology is probably doing a lot of “short selling” (or buying some major “put options”) in anticipation of the Synology stock tanking and taking a nose dive in price. Not so crazy, actually, Brilliant! Although, Really bad for the corporation. Oh yeah, and the consumer. Or at least what’s left of them. Major opportunities for other NAS competitors. And NASCompares.
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      197. Is there even a point with 25gbe (and how expensive will that be..)For the 1621+ , there is basically no point with 10gbe since the cpu is a bottleneck. But does not matter, i will not buy a NAS with HDD lock.
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      200. Drive HCL makes this a non-starter for me. Was hoping to get one to upgrade my DS1817+. Now, I’m looking at competitor options.

        Dug into the specs more. So let me get this straight… the DS1825+ is literally just the DS1821+ with:

        – the same 5-year-old CPU,
        – locked-down drive compatibility,
        – half the LAN ports (but hey, now they’re 2.5GbE, wow),
        – NVMe slots you can’t actually use unless you buy Synology-branded SSDs,
        – and the privilege of paying the same price.

        It does now use USB-C for expansion, instead of ancient eSATA. That’s a … win? I guess? 2025? Sure, let’s call that one a “win” Why not? Gotta put something positive here, it may as well be that.

        This isn’t innovation. This is SKU recycling with extra vendor lock-in. At this point, Synology’s Plus series should come with handcuffs in the box. Hard pass.
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      202. This is great news because very little has changed from my DS1821+ that hopefully means I will get software updates as long as the DS1825+ does hopefully but without the stupid Drive-Lock
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      203. Synology would like to thank you for being a loyal customer for years. So now when your Nas dies, you can purchase a new updated Synology NAS and all your hard drives all over again. You are welcome, its the least Synology can do to show you how important you are to them.
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      204. if you want/need as much storage possible – in the US the 20tb synology drive is currently 2x ironwolf pro 20tb. (not currently supported on older devices either)

        I am def not spending extra $3k just to use synology drive. no thanks @synology — guess ill just stick w my 2019 model for a while.
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      205. I wound like to thank ASUSTor and UGreen for listening to their customers, If you guys are listening. I will be upgrading my DS920+ soon. I’ll be checking out your offerings.
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      207. My1821+ and my DVA3221 will be my last new Synology devices ever. Since I won’t be selling them in my shop no more, I can not justify using them personally any more. I only feel sad and nostalgic, cause i think i been using them for several decades. But they made the choice for me. So I can’t cry about it.
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      210. Hardly a hardware upgrade over the 1821, which was already comically underpowered when the 1821 came out. And then there’s the nonsense drive compatibility lockout. This thing is dead to me.
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      211. I have 8GB ECC in the 1819+ for almost 5 years and it’s been flawless. Plus 10GBE Card. 18 TB drives. I was considering this upgrade, but there is no path forward for me. Even if I wanted to migrate I could never replace a drive that fails because Synology does not offer 18 TB drives. To be honest, I think the 1821+ is a much better upgrade.
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      216. I have DS1821+ for years in many locations. 1821+ also has ECC RAM, same CPU. Differance? I can easily put Mellanox MCX311A-XCAT and connect with my switch via Ubiquiti DAC. Works like charm. I test such configuration in many productions servers and never failed (i only change thermal pasta under heatsink). Additionally Mellanox card are very stamina and we can buy it for fraction of Synology cards.

        I had one synology card – E10G18-T1. Worst piece of crap which i saw. First card was DOA, second occasionally drop link. It took me few days before i found out that problem is with card. Synology said that card is fine. I put Mellanox which i had in decommsioned server and working for 2 years without issue. Addtionally E10G18-T1 in DS server getting crazy hot due to lack of vetilation and airflow.

        If we will add to this problems with HDD i need to say “BRAVO Synology, great tactic”. I bought recently QNAP TS-1273AU-RP-8G. Zero problems with adding RAM, Mellanox card and Exos drives. Software is diffrent but i can make such deal.
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      217. Great. Been waiting for this, been waiting. Due to crippling it I won’t purchase. As such it’s a 1821+ if I were going to do anything, but more likely extend what I have at the moment with DX unit to eak out a few more years so the home market NAS suppliers can catch up and I will jump ship. No external drives, no purchase for me.
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      218. Its an interesting approach . . .
        Synology has enabled other NAS companies to increase their sales and increase their market share.
        However competing NAS companies will not just take a few extra sales . . . they will also want more ????
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      219. just received latest synology newsletter today, and I quote “Compatible drives are mandatory”. reducing 4 network ports to 2 is yet another sign of penny pinching 🙁
        – yep, for this device and above, drive compatibility is potentially useful, however a price point always above the same manufacturer drives is taking the pee.
        – just to say again, many thanks for the videos over the years, I’m having a lot of fun putting together a Jonsbo N4 with an ITX board & AMD 4650GE & m.2 to sata with TrueNAS as a replacement to my DS1019+
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      221. Is it worth to upgrade from 1819+ to 1825+? I use my NAS localy as file backup only and sharing data with friends online. I don’t transfer files often, nor need high bandwith at all. Thank you community.
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      222. Robbie, as always, thanks for the fantastic video. That said, this morning, having lost faith in the universe, I bit the bullet buying a FOUR YEARS OLD DS1821+ with 10GbE for $100 MORE than I paid 3 years ago. I don’t curse… EXCEPT FOR WHEN SYNOLOGY BREAKS MY BRAIN!!! I cursed a LOT while clicking on this purchase. But it is the ONLY way I can preserve my 100+ TB of data on a DS1813+ with 20+ TB drives. Am I wrong that, given the SAME CPU, there is NO REASON to Buy a DS1825+ and that EVERYONE [unless happy with 2.5 GbE] should just buy 1821+ as a FAR better short and long-term solution ? What are your words of wisdom on that? Inquiring Beer Vloggers need to know

        – Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ ????Professional????Poets & Bed ???? & Beer???? Vloggers ]

        P.S. Of course, this purchase is meant to allow me to WAIT 1-2 years and THEN [probably] jump to 2027 U-Green NAS unless Synology decides to take their brain out of Steve Martin’s 2-brained jars and put it back in their head.

        PPS. I DO hope that Synology can RE-ANIMATE their brain with actual brain cells from some spare ones Herbert West has RE-ANIMATED. I will spend the rest of the year APOLOGIZING to all my clients I told Synology was the best since sliced bread. Now I can only say they are marginally better than sliced brains. In the words of ASH… this whole mess is NOT “GrOOOOOvy”!!!!
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      224. I held off years for this, But until I know for sure about the drive policy I won’t buy it.
        Need support for WD red’s that are in my 5 bay DS1019+, Sure they say you can migrate over but what do I fill the other 3 bays with later on?
        And then down the line if I buy an expansion unit can I add WD’s to that as well?
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      228. In a NAS with this number of drives I’d want a greater choice of drives, drive suppliers and want to be able to get my hands on them quickly. That’s why IMHO Synology is no longer a good option for enthusiasts or enterprise. I’ve had to wait for Dell, NetApp or HP certified and branded drives before, no fun.
        Also I take the view that if it’s not a rack mount unit it’s pro-Sumer at best so shouldn’t be hamstrung by requiring certified drives. I’m leaving Synology
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      230. Probably will just pick up a 1821+ at this point to replace my 1812+. While 2.5gb would be preferred for the same price, not willing to risk dealing with Synology drive incompatibilities. Otherwise I would just pick up a used 2422.
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      240. Synology really have gone to town to ensure their products are worse than their previous ones. Less ethernet ports is beyond me. They have completely lost their home user market share and likely smb too
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      242. As much as I do believe DSM is great, I am not buying another Synology until they revert back their drive lock-ins policy and allow me to use whatever hard drives and storage I want.
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      243. ARC loader is the only way how to use DSM efficiently – all HW unlocked. One other option could be to buy only 2-bay model and mount using NFS/iSCSI your big fat TrueNAS storage and use it directly in DSM. There is NO WAY we will continue selling this shill to our customers – mainly manufacturing factories. Synology is DEAD for us, same as for Linus – anticonsumer practices should be met with resistance.
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      245. I have been holding off for this (sort of.. it has been clear it would be a non-upgrade.) Synology has many strengths, but first off, until they “verify” a bunch of more “normal/normie” drives such as IronWolf/Red Plus I won’t consider them. But overall, Synology is working very hard to make me consider their competitors before I’d pick up this unit.
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      246. Passing on this due to drive lock. My 1819+ is doing well with the pcie 10gb/nvme expansion card. When it comes time to upgrade, aside from the concerns about being made in china (being able to install your own OS somewhat assuages that fear) I think UGreen looks awfully tempting. Or the QNap ‘tank’ 855x if memory serves on product name.
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      253. it’s sad… I had planned on possible buying a couple of these to refresh my aging synology nas units i have. but with the hdd lock down crap… it’s a hard pass. hope you read this synology. you shot yourself in the foot. way too many other options that dont’ do stupid DRM crap that can get my money. and the HW specs in this really not all that impressive.
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      254. These mediocre improvements are also 9 months late, and this is because Synology is clearly focused on massive scale processing and surveillance systems and not consumer hobbyist data storage. Your trip to Taiwan expo last year showed where their priorities are. Time to move on.
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      257. What you can do…
        Give a wide berth to a company that insults the customers who have been loyal to it for years and have brought it sales.
        Anyone who pulls this kind of crap has no future in the market.
        One could surmise that the swings of the decision makers were a little close to the nearest wall.
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      259. Thank you for the clear and thoughtful coverage of this important topic. I guess my old Drobo 5N will have to keep going for a little while longer while I consider other options.
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      260. DIY’ed my own nas for about 150 or so euros extra: 8c16t cpu, 64gb memory, no drive limitations, titanium rated psu, cilverstone case… Everything replaceable, no weard or locked components… am i ever a happy customer after seeing this saga unfoald…
        yeah sure, no ecc ram… but would I really need that anyway since main purpose is to keep everything neatly backed up…?
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      262. Junk, stay away from this, and please stop telling people that the price is the same, with lock in drives the price changes dramatically, is part of the scam.
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      267. Happy to had bought 1821+ not long ago and not waited for this, the only fear is now if I ever have to migrate to a new unit or to an entire new solution, because those DriveLocks are not fun at all
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      275. Not being able to recovery from a degraded array with a like drive should make 100% of people looking to upgrade completely stay away from these systems. The other scenarios people can grumble about but this on is a dick move.
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      281. Wow. This really sucks. We need an open source software that does SHR. Drobo’s had something similar and I went to Synology because they also allowed mis-matched drive sizes in a NAS form. Unraid and Hexos does not do a variation of SHR which is sad.
        I hope my 10 year old synologies last another 10 years!
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      282. Thanks for putting this video up. This is so disappointing by synology.. I researched and bought on in 2019 and wow happy with it. Will definitely find a new company somewhere else/
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      287. The 2025 Synology series is unfortunately Dead to Me. I have a DS423+ (Plex user here) and there is zero reason to ‘upgrade’ to the 2025 models regardless given the HW specs. This is a pity as the DSM 7.2 version I’m on (before they removed Video Station) looks to be the version I’ll be staying on as long as I can (baring some significant security issue).
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      288. I’ve been a loyal Synology user, and this is my third unit, but it will also be my last. It feels like Synology has forgotten who their core customers are. Casual users generally don’t care about NAS, while power users, who set everything up for their families, care a lot about flexibility and choice. Forcing users to buy only their drives is where I draw the line. I’ve always used IronWolf drives and have been completely satisfied with them. I’m not going to switch just to comply with Synology’s new restrictions.
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      289. Stability is great. But let me choose. If you want to verify drives which guarantees me a certain level of stability, great. It’s my device though so if I want to put in different drives and don’t give a shit about your verification, then I should be able to.
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      291. We’ve had an eight unit Synology NAS in our office for several years and have been waiting on the release of the 2025 model to upgrade this. The company’s decisionn to force users to buy their rebranded drives has sent me looking to their competitors.
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      295. LOL. @Synology, get over yourselves. You’re not even close to enterprise class devices, stop LARPing. I was looking at replacing my fleet of aging Netgear ReadyNAS 4, 6 and 8 bay enclosures and @Synology you WERE on the list. Now, you’re #1 on the “Hard no” list, as I don’t/can’t trust you, even if you roll back this greedy decision.
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      297. They should’ve just raised the price instead of lock it. They want to fight HDD prices falling locking you in and tap into HDD sales. I was looking for a 10 bay and due to lock in I’m passing. I need to be able to move old RAID designed drives over not buy 10 new ones. This also forces you to buy bigger drives up front. I will not be buying one of their products. I have 86TB and will be growing 24TB a year. So who is this product for?
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      298. I have worked the industry an I can understand the idea behind Synology’s decision to ban drives that are not on the HCT list. I can understand, but I don’t think they did it the right way. The right way would be to expressly state that if you are using drives that are not on the HCT list Synology will not accept any warranty claims in case of disk failure, array failure or data corruption.

        The reason I say this is because I have built a lot of storage servers and run into disk compatibility problems. In one case WD shipped over 200 drives so we could swap out the drives that failed in the servers a customer bought. Thing is these drives were actually on the compatibility list, but then using an older firmware. Once the firmware was upgraded the disks were no longer compatible. In another case I had to sit at a customer and update the firmware of about 100 drives as the R6 arrays had failed. This customer had all error mail messages sent to an employee who never looked at them. Had he even just looked at the servers once he got an email he would have seen the error LED on the failed drives and the array failures could have been prevented. As it was the drives failed, the arrays were degraded, the standby drives were used to rebuild the array and another drive failed and the second standby replaced it only for two more drives to fail and the arrays were dead. This is when they called about the problem. Seagate and the controller manufacturer went through the logs from the controllers and Seagate provided a new firmware that solved the failures. These are things you don’t have to deal with if the drives are tested, certified and the drives you buy has the correct firmware. And to get the kind of service we got from drive manufacturers it helps if you are talking about several hundred drives at a time. It’s harder to get prompt service if you are a end user and have four or eight drives that cause a problem.
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      299. Very frustrated, I’m a customer since 2015, persuaded at least 13 friends to buy their nas, but now I’m so upset, I’ve been holding 2 .. 3 years to buy their newest model , now I just want to go elsewhere, very upset
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      300. I’m so upset with this, literally bought an upgrade to my old unit 10days ago, while I was searching for new drivers I discovered this news about the drivers, I really don’t like this idea of no freedom, so I will be returning the unit for refund and i will search other company , they don’t deserve my data
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      303. What about older non-Synology drives?!
        I have an old DS414 that I’d love to replace but was waiting for 2.5Gb network. Now I’m just a home user, I don’t have a big budget, so if I replaced my NAS, I would want to use my existing old (but working perfectly) drives, preferably with a clean install after backing up the data. I’ve no idea if these old drives are on any recent compatibility list even if Synology were to open up the allowed list a bit.

        And these NAS units aren’t cheap, there’s no way I can afford a new NAS and 4 new drives all in one go, and then what happens to my existing perfectly working drives?

        I just can’t see how I can buy a new Synology NAS now.
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      306. While it’s unofficial fixes, i would really appreciate it if you could test some of the HDD compatibility scripts (hacks), which replaces/expands the file which contains the compatibility list on the Synology NAS and whether or not it works.

        Just Google “Synology_HDD_db”

        EDIT: In fact, they just released a guide an hour ago to even get the new Synology NAS’es to allow you to install DSM with unverified HDDs.
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      307. There are already scripts created that can add any disks to the Synology approved list or allow DSM to be installed on new disks. It remains to be seen if Synology will make changes to block them but for now, unverified disks can be used very easily.
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      309. There is no incompatibility with ‘unverified’ drives but aggravated obsession for customers money. Synology wants to make money out of thin air. Because most of Synology hardware was overpriced outdated trash 5 years ago and surprisingly it is now. But from now on company decided to do a quantum leap into degeneration and bankruptcy by enforcing usage of outdated and overpriced Toshiba drives relabeled. This would mostly hit home users, creators and some small businesses

        Whatever this company did it won’t revert the accumulated negative effect. So it’s time to say “bye-bye overpriced trash”!
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      310. Have anyone tested copying first blocks of unverified, but working disk (from DS923+) to new, but unverified disk? Something like “dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1” ?
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      312. What does a verified disk mean? Every 20 year old computer needs drivers and the thing will work, with all types of memory media. So they just don’t want the drivers to load for stable operation. petty????
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      313. Curious if when a drive fails, if you can shutdown the DS925+, pull the good drive out, clone it to the replacement disk to get the synology partitions on it, place the original good drive back in and boot, then when running add in the cloned replacement disk to see if it will allow raid repair. Might have a similar situation as when replugging in the hot pulled disk.
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      315. All those years of getting r&ped up the wallet and telling ourselves we’re ok with mediocre hardware because THeiR sOFTwaRe is SO aaWSome…well 1)it’s not, I’ve used all their own apps now, many don’t really work. and 2)this is what our premium dollars have paid for, a deliberate sabotage at the software level creating artificial problems…that’s right artificial problems put there by Synology.
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      316. That is really a shame, hope they do add 3rd party to the compatibility list. Actually the Synology drives are not compatible in a lower version of DSM like 6.x while the 3rd party are, so overall they are the least compatible drives on the market! What concerns me also is if the Synology drives are compatible on other brand NAS’s ? So you can save your investment if you want to switch.
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      318. I am a migrating buyer

        I planned to purchase a DS1825

        I’ve had (2) 20 TB Seagate EXOS drives sitting in my desk waiting for a new unit

        This was the final straw, I purchased a Terramaster F6-424 Max

        So far, I’m happy
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      322. This is so f*cking stupid I don’t even know where to start. For f*ck sake Synology, how can you be this turned away from reality?!
        This is ensh*tification at its finest really. I could’ve bought it if buying your drives would’ve unlocked something extra and it was 100% optional, but this.. I can’t believe than I’m from now on is going to suggest QNAP to people who want to buy a turnkey solution…
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      323. It is completely UNACCEPTABLE and DANGEROUS for Synology to block recovery of an array with non-Synology branded drives. That is a completely artificial restriction that they have chosen to implement and puts their customers’ data at risk. That is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE behavior from Synology!
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      325. I’ve got a dead DS1817+ and I’ve been waiting for 18 months to replace it; I’m fairly convinced that it’s the motherboard that has died. It has 8 * 8TB WD Reds in it. I want to transfer this pool to a new NAS. I’m hoping that I can move my current pool to a new DS1825+ then one by one replace my WD Reds with something like 16TB HAT3310s The cost will be prohibitive but I might be able to do this over an 18 month period… hopefully I will then be in a ‘safe’ position…
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      326. I’ve been thinking about this verification nonsense from Synology, and it occurred to me that it is a brand lock-in, nothing more. Think about it, for years Synology have had NAS certified drives from Seagate, Toshiba and WD on their compatibility list, a list that they have claimed has been validated thoroughly. If this is so, and those drives from Seagate, WD and Toshiba have been fully verified for years, what’s changed? Why are those drives suddenly unverified now?

        How can drives previously on Sinology’s much vaunted compatibility list be unverified? It makes no sense to me. I believe Synology are appeasing their user base by saying third-party drives are/will be verified in future without seriously wanting to do this. This exercise is being done to evaluate user pushback. If most users shrug, grumble a bit and accept this new situation, Synology may quietly forget about verifying thirdparty drives. If, however, the reaction from the Synology community is comprehensively negative, they will miraculously include the third-party drives they’ve always had on their compatibility list in short order.
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      327. This is a huge showstopper for me and many. I have 918+ running and will most likely be looking for a way out of Synology ecosystem if they stay on this path. The hard part is replacing some of the apps that I use, like Photos (Immich?) and Drive (Nextcloud is the closest but bloated) and Surveillance station (???). If you are not using these apps then getting out of Synology should be pretty simple.
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      329. Synology going this route of trying to lock in their overpriced rebadged Toshiba hard drives is a Rubicon that cannot be uncrossed. The trust is gone. Even if they claim they will loosen the restrictions on non-approved drives, why should I trust they won’t simply reverse course in a few years? It’s time to move on from Synology.
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      330. I wonder if there would be market for hacking WD drives to identify themselves as valid verified drives 🙂 Most likely the firmware change they have made to the drives is very minimal and could be quite easily replicated/emulated on other drives.
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      333. That rebuild thing is a big problem, you should always be able to rebuild a RAID if drive fails, dataloss is worse than possible unstable behaviour that might occur. And if that really is a big issue, then just allow rebuild but keep the RAID in slow degraded mode where it really cannot be used until you rebuild it with verified drive, but in the mean time all the data will be safe as the RAID has been rebuilt and there is parity data.
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      336. Pathetic. to let you migrate non-standard drives and hten not repair a failed RAID??? Regardless if they “fix that”, it shows you their brain-dead strategy–those were the requirements for developers!
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      339. Excellent presentation. Thank you. You are doing some really amazing reporting on this situation. I try to repurpose just about all of my drives, memory and whatnot as best I can when bringing in new home lab equipment. All my stuff is enterprise grade as I just dont buy “cheap stuff” for my lab. The thought that I could never any of it, not one bit, in a brand new premium NAS just makes want to vomit. It kind of reminds me what what MSFT is doing with TPM and what Broadcom has done with VMware. Of course Apple does this same crap with their computers, phones and everything else. I have really high hopes for the new Minisform NAS and their OS. Really hope the Minisform NAS OS can be virtualized under Proxmox either on their new NAS hardware or the MS-A2.
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      340. So synology is using Non-standard hard drives because all other drives than synology are not working normally.
        Do not explain me that… In my opinion all people should fill whole internet with simillar sentence in comments and reviews to force synology to explain themself more and that will show that they are just lying about true intentions
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      346. I wouldn’t normally comment on a YouTube video, but wow. I’ve been a Synology NAS customer for longer than I can remember. I currently own six units with a total of 32 drives across them. I heard about the drama, but I was waiting for some actual tests to see how bad things were. I would say this is disaster territory. I simply can’t trust Synology with my data going forward. It’s a real shame, I’ve loved the OS over the years, and I have boxes that have been powered on for something like 10 years non-stop. I have always recommended them as the go-to solution. Time to move on. Thank you for doing these tests, and for the great videos over the years. I look forward to finding out the best new options as they appear.
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      348. Just say it outright: Synology can’t be recommended anymore. This policy is idiotic and most of the disabled features have absolutely nothing to do with drive “compatibility”. If their software is so finicky, it’s shit software and you wouldn’t want to use it anyways. This is just a money grab, plain and simple, and coming at the worst of times where nearly every other manufacturers hardware is better than the Synology oldtimers.
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      349. They will hopefully learn their lesson soon or go bankrupt. I for myself will never use Synology ever again and do my datndest to not let them into the corps i work for.

        Damage is done ….
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      355. At first I thought I would just quit if they bs spec lock. Now I need to advise other against their bs scamming. Remember this ‘once they start bs any business practice, they will do it again and again. NEVER EVER TRUST OR GIVE IN TO THEIR LIARS’
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      357. Wow, looks like I may be looking at HexOS now and my own hardware solution or perhaps one that comes without an OS. I really do love Synology, but this huge change is a deal breaker for sure.
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      359. Many thanks for the video . To be absolutely clear . . . . another vote for UGREEN + TrueNAS
        Synology face sales loss from people/SME who start with a low end product and later upgrade to several higher end products.
        It would make sense if Synology modelled their likely sales loss based on these comments . . . do they care?
        Surely Synology must realise that a very small percentage of the population buy NAS units
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      363. Nope. I own Synology NAS devices at home and for my employer (Government – Police, Fire, EMS). I’m out. This is a deal breaker for me. I will not be buying any more Synology hardware while they are vendor locked on the drives. Hard drives all meet standards. We put them in RAID arrays to protect against those rare failures. Artificially raising the price is asinine. Get your head out of your asinine Synology!
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      364. …and don’t forget, what you might be able to do today will properly be turned off in a DSM update when they get aware of the loopholes found by the users ????
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      365. Their decision is so stupid that it would even make more sense to stop accepting sata drives and create a new Synology type of drives…
        They will regret it but probably it is already too late.
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      366. One of the most absurd thing about all this story is that the Synology drives I see listed on Amazon (at least here in Italy) are obviously either Seagate or HGST manufactured WD (that btw for some funny reason have the sticker flipped upside down compared to the OEM drives), so there is no reason for not allowing other drives of those brands to function inside the NAS.
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      367. Good information. My opinion is to stay away from Synology for now. Even if you pay more and purchase all compatible drives today, it does not mean they will be on the list for your next replacement system. Sadly, as a home user, I like the SHR. Does any other manufacturer allow mixing drives.
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      368. After exchanging emails with synology the official answer is “drives that do not meet the new compatibility policy WILL NOT WORK”. I can forward the email to you if you want or you can ask for details from them.

        RIP Synology. It was a nice trip.
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      372. I’m not yet sure if I have to replace my current NAS with another one, but this crap rules out any chance for a Synology. They have begun the route down this path, and I don’t believe they will reverse it.
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      373. You could potentially try “initialize” the drive in the older nas to try to use it as replacement for degraded RAID.
        If you migrate the older box is usually kept as the backup so it may be kind of the workaround foe those who must upgrade.
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      374. Thanks for your detailed and scientific approach to NAS videos. I have been watching about 6 months. I don’t own a NAS yet, I like to do a LOT of research before purchases like that. I’m glad now I didn’t purchase a Synology system recently.
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      376. For a dominant NAS vendor like Synology, I can’t believe this product release was a marketing blunder. They’ve had plenty of time to verify 3rd party drives so the fact they have launched with a retricted compatibiity list speaks volumes for their mindset. Even if they add a few 3rd paty drives over the next few months, I think the writing is on the wall. Ultimately Synology will be a closed ecosystem and I’m certainly not going to validate their position with a purchase.
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      377. You do realize how Synology “works” with WD and Seagate. Just trying to squeeze money out of them for “verification”. Because their NAS disks are already absolutely compatible for the reason that no special compatibility is needed. They just need to meet industry standards.
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      380. I have a random crazy theory. I don’t know if it would work. Lets say you have four drives from an older system. You migrate them to a new NAS. They work! Now, one of those drives goes bad. You replace it with a new blank drive of the same model. The NAS rejects it. Just pull one of the working drives, put it in a system and do a sector by sector clone to the blank drive. The New NAS will recognize the new drive as being Synology and let you rebuild the system using it.
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      381. 2:08 this part of the video testing unverified drive information is good enough for me,because i prefer seagate brand. Currently own ds920+ with 4x8TB seagate,plan want to buy 5 bays but i guess i’ll pass.
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      382. Yeaaaaaaaa, that’ll be a big ol’ NOPE from me. “They’re looking into compatibility with WD & Seagate”!?! Well, Synology, the damage is DONE. Shoulda ‘looked into’ it prior to launch. Your company will never recover from this backlash.
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      383. So, I was going to update my 1817+ to a 25+ model. Not anymore. I have Seagate enterprise drives in it with several purchased spares (all on the compatibility list for that model). I can migrate but have to use Synology drives going forward for expansion/spares?! Um, no thanks. I’ll be going with a different brand. Why do companies get greedy and then stupid?
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      384. Consider me riled ????
        At this stage, I’d consider it a risk to migrate a storage pool from an older model.

        I would be tempted to say that they should only offer the Migration Assistant method to move data from an older model to the ds925+ having Synology branded disks. At least this way there would be no confusion about which scenarios my data is safe.
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      385. 12m – attempt to be balanced … it has only just been launched … they may add further drives down the line….

        Never buy something on a promise or assumption; buy on what it is now (especially at this price point)
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      386. So this isn’t an issue with an existing Synology + series of NASes? does that mean firmware/upgrade support of old devices is going away? Since ultimately this is a software lock it seems.
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      390. Was ready to upgrade later this year but at this point we are going to remove all Synology drives out of our business it’s a waste now being forced into certain hardware.
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      393. Thanks Robbie. Great video as always. I had ONE more thought, but I totally understand if you don’t revisit. If you have a migrated pool & volume, you remove a “bad” drive, and you install a “new” unverified drive… that you first setup as a “blank” single drive in a DS923+ or whatever… would THAT allow you to use the single unverified to repair? Using an older NAS to “prep” drives to use in the DS925+ doesn’t make much sense, but if it works… well, that’s something. Again, thanks for all you do, and have a great day!!!
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      396. Synology is dead to me. I replaced my 920+ and relegated it to a backup system until it dies and at work where we had 6 1820+ systems that we had already started migrating off of before this latest BS they announced. Outdated / limited hardware, removing features from software, and competitors catching up and surpassing them on the hardware side while options like TrueNAS, UNraid, and others are filling the gap on the software side without vendor lock in.

        The value proposition Synology once had been already trending down, with the new release it is gone.
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      397. Really hope Synology watching your videos and reading comments. I wanted to upgrade to a 925+, and wanted to buy another unit for my parents house.
        Now i wont, and i will switch to ugreen or qnap.
        Hope you make a good amount on your rebranded drives synology.
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      398. Synology is dead to me now. What folks should do — what I have done — is acquired a small Plus-series drive from the recent past that can run Active Backup for Business. Use that machine as an appliance for the sole purpose of network backup. Use larger devices from other vendors as the target of your backups and for all other purposes.
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      399. All of this wouldn’t be an issue if Synology drives were readily available in the sizes in we want for a reasonable price, similar to the existing WD/Seagate offerings. But if I need to wait a week and pay anywhere between 10-50% more for essentially the same thing, then that’s what makes me extremely annoyed at this situation.

        IF you have a Synology system, maybe they should offer existing users a discount or something to buy Synology drives. They need to offer some incentive at least. However who knows how long that will last. Maybe a year down the road once we are locked into our 925+, they can decide at any point to significantly increase the price of the drives or stop selling certain sizes that meet our existing budget. Who knows.

        There are too many unknowns here and for that reason, it’s obvious we need to look elsewhere.
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      401. If they planned the compatible list they would have at least some drives on it when announcing the units , they just wanted to wait if there would be a backlash. I skip synology for a while, will buy the unas and backup my old synology to that.
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      402. I bought a Synology NAS last year. As long as they do not mess with being able to do the basics I will continue to use it until I need to upgrade. But, when I need to upgrade based upon what is being reported by nearly all, Synology will not be part of my next purchase. I think they have made it very clear that DIY is not their focus going forward. If the other manufactures go the same way there is always TruNAS.
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      403. Dear Robbie, Thank you SOOOOO much. You’re the first to cover RAID FAILURE and REBUILD of Migrated systems [8:25 into your video: Test 8: RAID recovery fails with identical unverified HDD]. As soon as they announced they would allow MIGRATION, that INSTANTLY became the one CRITICAL QUESTION. You are the very first to answer. As a Mac and Synology consultant for 10+ years [and I PERSONALLY OWN 5 8 Bay Synology 18XX+ series servers]. This is the MOST IMPORTANT THING. And an ABSOLUTE DEAL BREAKER. Obviously NASs are about 2 things
        – PROTECTING your data from Drive Failure
        – Understanding that the drives in theses systems ABSOLUTELY [eventually] will fail
        – Allow ing you to RELACE Drives when they do fail.

        Since ALL my Synology servers [and ALL my clients] have AT LEAST 1 20 to 24 TB drive in EVERY unit they own, this is INFURIATING… and ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. Either Synology has to:
        – STOP ALLOWING MIGRATION
        – Allow Migration and Replacement with UNVERIFIED DRIVE
        – SHIP reasonable price “PLUS” [NOT Enterprise] 18, 20 and 24 TB drives.

        They HAVE to comply with the above, I NEVER get mad, I’m a 1984 Mac Consultant who smiles and laughs all the time. I’m a professional poet & beer vlogger.. I do NOT get angry.. almost NEVER. I am ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS and this thing you have discovered of NOT ALLOW FOR a RAID to be REPAIRED when a drive fails.

        Thanks for discovering this.

        – Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ ????Professional????Poets & Bed ???? & Beer???? Vloggers ]
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      404. Well, if you’re a home user especially, why even try and deal with all the verified current and future compatibility issues that may come up? There are just too many other options available to keep jumping through the Synology hoops, and they are better and usually cheaper. For the home and small business user, look elsewhere, which is jus what Synology wants those users to do anyway.
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      406. all this because they don’t care about their core base and want to focus more on enterprise. when I don’t see why any enterprise would choose them over a JBOD + controller
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      407. when you got your glasses on your head, we know you been busy. Seriously though, thanks for reaching out on Reddit and confirming your strategy and taking on feedback for additional tests. All of this is incredible. And some of folks learned what BOSH means.
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      410. something important: the “unverified” status will override drives that have isues too, so if a disk is in critical status it will say “unverified” instead, very hard to actually know which drive it is, only indicator is the orange light, since the usual “disk critical” popup also didnt show for me.
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      411. Someone was obviously bored up at $ynology HQ and thought, “how do we get the new rigs out there but pay less for advertising”
        I bet you they switch back to how it was up to a point.
        Tenner says they do????

        But even without all that. Why would you go from a 920 or 923 with all the perks that come with them?????
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      412. I am happy to say that late last year (having got fed up of waiting for a newer version) I purchased a DS1522+ and migrated the 6tb drives from my aging DS1415. No problem . I added a 16tb Ironwolf & then have since replaced 2 of the drives with 16tb Ironwolf, all no problem. Had I hung on for a 5 bay 2025 model I’d clearly be stuck with no choice but Synology drives. I’ve always used Ironwolf or Toshiba NAS srives and never had an issue.
        The cyncic in me says that Synolgy want all my money not sust some of it ????
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      413. Instead of all this work, why you just don´t ask, you still trust Synology? That is the main issue because all of this can change at short notice dependent on theirs greediness mode.
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      418. You haven’t been able to mix HDD and SSD in a pool for a long time now. My guess is the unsupported SSD thing will change when the new slim model comes out.
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      421. Worth noting too that RAID recovery would be impossible if you’re migrating say 24TB drives of which Synology doesn’t have such higher capacities. I’d be very interested to see how they might reply to this
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      424. I need an advice. I have a DS918+ with 4 x 4TB WD Reds in SHR1. I’m getting short on space, but otherwise I’m very happy with it. I need to do something, and I don’t know what. New DS925+ (with new disks unfortunately) or other model or extra DX517 (I have 5 x 3 TB WD Reds that I can use, 4 from an old DS413 and 1 extra one as an external HD for a PC). I think a DX517 in my case is more sensible, especially because I already added RAM and SSD cache on the DS918+ but I might have missed something so, any advice ?
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      426. This will all but eliminate use of re-certified enterprise drives. Locally, the cost of a DS925+ with 4x HAT5310 8TB Synology Drives, is 40% more expensive than a DS923+ with 4x re-certified 16TB enterprise grade WD drives (which include a warranty and local support). 40% more expensive with HALF the raw capacity. Nuts.
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      429. Have 2 of their devices now, but unless they change their policy, won’t be using another one. May go build myself a NAS in the future and try HexOS…
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      432. so if I use the migration method to move my old WD drives to the new 925+ or 1525+ and then one of WD drives fails, then would I have to then use a Synology drive to replace the failed drive? Seems like a weird question to ask but it seems relevant for now
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      433. I don’t think Synology understands their user base, it’s not mums and dads buying their products like Apple products. This is not even mid hardware, this is like they’ve gone through someone else’s recycle bin from 2020. The HDD lock in is just taking the piss at that point. It just seems like they are trying to lose customers, considering all the new options starting to surface, especially with the rise of AI. They need to get their head out of their ass and get back in the game.
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      434. Hello! I’m looking into getting my first NAS (or DAS) and I’ve already done a fair bit of research, but I still have a lot of questions, more then I can fit in the “Free NAS advice” form on your website. I see that there’s a way to pay for a faster response, but is there a way to get paid advice that would permit a larger/longer set of questions or a back and forth conversation, in addition to or instead of a faster reply?

        Thank you!
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      436. If you just want a NAS and already have Ubiquiti hardware, the UNAS Pro is excellent. Synology releasing a product that doesn’t support 3rd party drivers is unforgivable. All other manufacturers support ALL drives so why not Synology? They’ll be out of business within a year hopefully.
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      439. I have no problem with them locking down their system. What i wanna know is will it support transcoding for Plex server installation? I mean hardware and software transcoding.
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      440. So I’m curious what percentage of Synology’s customer base are home/hobby users? It’s not like these guys started by building enterprise servers. Seems pretty stupid to flip off the consumers using NASs at home. Why not follow so many successful tech companies that have both consumer grade equipment and enterprise grade equipment? This is just like Plex tearing apart our home media player into separate pieces to make our player into an app that merges all of the external streaming services into a single app. Why didn’t they make a new app? What is wrong with these tech companies? I guess I just don’t understand the market. Fair enough. I’m done with Synology. They simply don’t deserve my loyalty. I got none from them.
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      442. What I don’t like is in an emergency, I can’t throw another similar drive that is not official, so I have to buy a couple of extra Synology branded drives for backups even if I have perfectly good ones laying around. Screw this, this is a pain because I do use Surveillance Server…good thing I only bought one extra license. I wish Blue Iris supports ARM so I can build an energy efficient NAS/Cam server.
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      443. I think I’m going to keep my current Synology for regular backup for my family member due to its simplicity with its app. But I’ll buy another brand for nas with higher performance with less hardware limitations
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      445. Well, NO! As a consumer and a customer, we must send a clear message. Just no. This policies and simply bullshit. The HAT drives are like 50% in price, without adding ANY VALUE at all and they are not available at higher capacties (3.5. i checked and 16TB is the highest capacity – are we a joke to Synology?) Also, as i am also a part of corporate, if we dont stand now, we dont stand ever. So just “SAY NO” and go QNAP or UGREEN, or literally any other brand, just to make them suffer. Nothing else will make them change their mind. We have so many examples in the history of succesful brands making stupid moves and biting the dust. Seems that Synology mightt be another one in the line…
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      446. Garbage product from a garbage company. And tbh if NAS’s where not a niche, the EU would have eaten these c*nts for breakfast long before they got to launch this PoS dumpster fire.
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      447. Everything is fine. It’s a pity that your way of speaking is “Run Forest, run” ???? And I hope Synology will lose a lot with its new “compatibility policy”
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      448. At 28:20, you mention they removed 10gbe in order to upsell the DS1525, which will have 10gbe option. Has that been confirmed? I thought the rumor was that the 1525 would NOT have 10gbe?
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      451. Thanks for your summary review of an actual 925+. I have been planning to upgrade from my old Netgear ReadyNAS units and based on what the older 923+ offered hoped to enter the Synology ecosystem with a more recent model. But the 925+ is a disaster – no 10Gbe upgrade path, drive lockin on HDD’s and NVMe’s – I can’t afford to invest a substantial sum for such a restricted hardware platform when there are other open systems with better hardware and s/w that is almost DSM waiting in the wings. No amount of dangling the possibility of expanding the approved hardware list will convince me to buy Synology now.
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      452. So if I upgrade from my current DS920+ and DX517, can I just swap my drives in the DS920+ to the DS925+ and then use a USB-c to eSATA adapter to use my existing DX517?
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      454. Synology feels like most other tech companies nowadays that have been dominant for ages and have created an ecosystem that customers cannot or will not move on from and as a result those companies stop innovating. It always ends badly.
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      459. Synology can get fucked
        clowns, I can no longer recommend them business wise
        what happens if I can’t get a drive(s) for replacement at a client, the client gets fucked … yes!?
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      461. What a great new release from Synology! I started to run out of space on my old 2-bay DS218play, so I started looking at upgrades, and after seeing their new line, I knew for certain I’ll go elsewhere. Ended up with a DIY NAS with Unraid. Thank you Synology for making my decision easy!
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      462. What about moving shr volume pool disks (non synology) from old synology nas to ds925+ and replacing one for rebuild (also non synology). Is it allowed by the system? Will it rebuild?
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      463. Synology needs a reward for how to tick off a loyal customer base in record time ????. As a long time Synology user on my 3rd NAS, I’m replacing my Ds418 with a Ugreen which is arriving next week ????????. I’m willing to live with less polished software or install Truenas or Unraid if I WANT to. Good luck to Synology from here ????????
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      464. Switched to diy earlier this year after 3 synology’s. You outgrow them eventually anyway i think, but synology is making the switch easier every year 🙂
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      467. Just working on a follow up article and video testing different Unverified HDD and SSD NAS scenarios (boot, expansion, migration, recovery, etc). You can follow the Synology 2025 NAS Series 3rd Party Drive Compatibility Test Article here – https://nascompares.com/guide/synology-2025-nas-series-3rd-party-drive-compatibility-what-works-what-doesnt-right-now/
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      469. Synology DS925+ NAS Review on YouTube now LIVE https://youtu.be/CSz5aOcJVtc
        And the DS925+ Written Review is here – https://nascompares.com/review/synology-ds925-nas-review/
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      470. I had a Synology like … 13 years ago. Replaced it by a DYI linux-based server 10 years ago which is still working today (it’s due an upgrade this year). I’m NEVER going back to a proprietary solution, even less so one that even restricts what kind of additional hardware I can put in.
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      473. Just curious one thing I didn’t see in the video is testing 3rd party ecc sodimm modules and seeing if it would boot or not. If you can maybe clarify if it would or wouldn’t that would be great thanks
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      475. I used PLUS models simply because anything else were slow as hell at that time when I bought them, not because I’m using it for enterprise use case. I just use NAS just for home data stockpile and backup. GG Synology. You guys were great. Not anymore.
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      476. ECC but no ZFS, old CPU, 2×2,5GBit but no possibility to upgrade to 10GBit, expecting the usual pricing, no third party HDs? I do not understand the strategy behind except of completely getting rid of all private customers -> too bad, after 2 decades, good bye Synology
        But thanks for the video!
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      478. Synology are OTW to garnering a lot of HATE. Remove USB support instead of giving warnings, but allowing people to use it. Destroying DS Video which is looking better and better now that plex have decided to piss off its users, and now the HDD scandal. Removing 10GBe support was idiotic. I do NOT need a new NAS currently – partly as i have 6 of their older ones, but will not be considering them again for a very very long time. Xpenology is looking very intriguing now. I suspect many people will be looking at it a lot more closely. Hopefully Synology ave a Jesus moment and repent. As they have sucker punched those of us who used to rave about them and recommend them to everyone we knew in business. I have nothing but contempt for this company now.
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      479. I will wait to see how they add 3rd party HHD’s to the compatibility list, but if it doesnt open up equitably … I AM DONE with Synology and very interested in alternate products.

        Synology, wake up and realize this is a bad idea. This isnt some Adobe Ps subscription model where you see dollar signs if you force users to capitulate … unlike Adobe, Synology has multiple equal competition … which means this is just dumb. Back down and call it a mistake, or we will on mass … leave.

        The only way it will work, is if Synology drives are up to 20% cheaper than equal Seagate or WD drives. That is really only the way this will work.
        … not likely. Synology is showing that they only see its customers as victims of cash sucking.

        The software argument is not as user friendly unique, as it used to be. Ya need to look around at your competition.
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      481. 916+ just died, I’m almost forced to buy a 1522+ to recover my data. Horrible timing. 

        I have a full Unifi setup at home. I wish I could buy the Unifi NAS Pro, but I want to get my data out of the Synology.  I have an offsite backup of everything on BackBlaze, but still don’t want to risk going to a backup solution when I have these HDDs … I’m worried about data degredation, so I’m going with paying Synology my $$$ just to get my data.  

        I will upgrade to Unifi NAS Pro MAX once it comes out and has a stronger CPU more RAM, because I want to put SSDs in that guy to actually take advantage of the 10GbE.
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      482. Can you go into a deep dive with the Synology Software? I’ve been looking at getting a NAS for a while for my small office (2 people, max 5 TB storage for CAD/design work plus surveillance for the office.) I’ve looked at Synology DS925+ and it seems like its software is pretty robust but my small business is running on Unifi and I’m also considering the UNAS as well. Which would you recommend?
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      484. Folks are rage-quitting for UGreen. But I don’t see anyone posting videos that UGOS is way better than DSM. Or TrueNAS is so much better. This feels like all the people moving to Canada if a certain President is elected. But no one actually moves. ????
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      485. Finally migrated from my old workhorse to a new NAS. Looked at Synology long enough to know that vendor lock-in is an immediate disqualification. I understand that (perhaps) they want to reduce support overhead and troubleshooting complexity by forcing users into standardized drives (conveniently from Synology). But continued lackluster performance and the apparent restriction on after-market hardware is a good way to put yourself out of business.
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      488. I think 2 things # This was a typical fence sitting BS Robbie review …a 6 year old CPU? No 10GBe …it is a complete piece of crap hardware wise … #2 Who else has locked down their ecosystem? …hmmmm members only ??? Get stuffed Robbie you are nearly as bad as Synology these days
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      490. The only efficient thing about that cpu is the price to Synology. Its gen 1 embedded Zen. Gen 2 and 3 exist and are more power efficient, made smaller, and run cooler.
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      493. I’m gonna save everyone 30 mins. F—K Synology, go buy something else. That’s all
        NASCompare you shouldn’t be reviewing anything Synology anymore! Don’t support the BS!
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      499. I have a DS414 with 3x 2TB and 1x 4TB drives. I’ve been wanting to update to a new NAS but waited for 2.5Gb ethernet. Now though, I don’t know what to do. I’d want to use my existing drives but with a clean install. I can’t afford 4x new 4TB Synology drives on top of the NAS unit itself. I only really use the NAS for file storage and Surveillance Station (I have one paid for camera licence I’d need to transfer over somehow). Are there other NAS units from other manufacturers that have the camera surveillance?
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      502. Not so sure the chassis is good for noise.. I just updated last week from a DS416j to a DS923+ (because I didn’t want the 925+, as I use Ironwolf drives) and the noise is considerably higher from the drives, fan noise is fine, but drive noise is probably 6dB louder.
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      507. this new machine is 6 years too late.
        Forcing the Buyer to buy extremely expensive hardware that is cheaper and better on the market (on top of that from the original manufacturer) makes no sense. It would be fair to take this step back and sell the software in return.
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      509. I don’t mind the closed solution in general. But what I mind is that Synology doesn’t manufacture hard drives or ssd‘s, they are simply taking away the transparency and comparability for me. They may start with a quality oem product, but who give me the guaranty that this will stay like this? And where is the advantage for the buyer? I know that my ironwolfes and 990 pro are a good choice at the moment. And if they don’t deliver in future I can see that and change. I can’t do that with Synology branded hard drives or ssd’s. at the same time the competition is catching up with their software. We have several QNAPs in use, I don’t have a problem with it. I am not using their remote access and I deactivate the admin account which comes with the system. If I need remote access I can use a VPN. So for me Synology is no longer on the shortlist
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      510. Bad policy for Synology, compatibility list should be extended to 3rd party. This is not good for anybody annd their reasoning is a load of crap. Imagine if HDD supply chain is suffering, you can’t just pick up another HDD and restore your system.
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      511. They should sell their OS and stop making hardware, and they are well on their way to doing so, we can see that this tin can serves as a showcase for their software, a bit like Linux distributions known for running on Pentium 3.
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      513. I’m looking to replace my ds918+, but since Synology has decided to go full villain, someone else will be getting my money.

        I hope that they go bankrupt and someone else buys the company and returns to the old ways .

        Meanwhile, bye bye Synology.
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      515. “even with hard driver you will still hit a bottleneck even if you use smb multichannel”
        What? How?
        With 7200rpm HDDs in RAID 0 u get 300mbit (less then that IRL).
        You can easily exceed that with SMB multichannel with two 2.5gig nicks
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      516. So many better solutions today, bye Synology. Same old story though, scrappy tech company has good ethos and hardware/software/prices supporting customers while gaining market share. Within 15 or less years gets overconfident and greedy, hardware/software/support starts to take a back seat to profit and then they lose market share becoming niche, sold off, or die. NEXT!
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      517. 28:13 “more refined compatibility listing” Why use such marketing language? The compatibility has not been “refined”, it has been severely “restricted”. Come on, you are better than this.
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      518. 27:41: “Synology needs to be clear about the messaging…” Messaging is not the problem. The anti-consumer policies are the problem. The new hard drive lock in is just the latest in a series of anti-consumer steps. I bought two Synology units before the company went crazy, but will not consider them in the future anymore. Anyone buying an underpowered and overpriced Synology unit today will do it at their own peril. Why wouldn’t Synology continue to remove features for which customers have already paid for like the codecs or USB driver support they removed to save a few pennies on licensing fees?
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      520. What about migrating a DSM 7.1.1 raid array to the 25+ series NAS?
        Many users need to upgrade from DS1813+ to DS1825+ now when the software update support for DSM 7.1.1 ends in a month.
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      522. 18:03 “But for new users, this is all nothing” (paraphrased). Of course it matters to new users as well, which options they have. New users won’t be able to choose the manufacturer they trust most. They won’t be able to buy the drives that are available in their region, are on sale, etc. They won’t be able to use drivers larger than those Synology supports and the moment the largest Synology drives are not very large. Finally, even new users will be forced to pay the Synology tax on hardware, they could buy from the OEM (Toshiba?!) for less money.
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      523. Where is a proper Synology Server, that uses 30w like my ds220. Well the first Synology that is feeling Borring ????. Like minimal ports, no cheap HDD options, limited expansion. NO home user wants to pay 1000s for some photos and movie server. Call me when it is 500$ with drives included????. And i have Synology no plan to upgrade this way.
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      524. Well, I have been using Synology for the last 10 years, not anymore, they have stopped in the past, new models with 2.5gbs NICs, where is the full NVMe NAS solution with 10GBs NICs? im not even talking about the CPU.
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      525. The CPU is better than the previous one, but does not support transcoding, which is a big drawback for anyone wanting to use the NAS as a media server. For anyone just wanting reliable storage, there are much more cost effective NAS options available.
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      526. 7:44 “2.5 Gbps, an upgrade on this and maintaining that similar price point, is something to be applauded”. No, absolutely not. It is something to not boo at. Removing the 10 Gbps option at the same time, annuls any credit the company might have received for finally not repeating the embarrassing 1 Gbps connections. Call a spade a spade please. Anyhow, with their drive lock in policy, on top of all the other lock in, and Synology removing features and apps from DSM, it does not really matter how much the hardware is (still) behind competitors anymore.
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      527. I’ve been a Synology owner for 9 years and have been anxiously awaiting the release of a new 4-bay for a year at least. But recycling the same CPU they’ve been using since the x21 series and blocking DSM install + future upgrades using even high-quality NAS drives like WD Red Pro has left me very disappointed. At the higher capacities Synology-branded hard drives are so much more expensive than WD’s NAS line that Synology drives are no longer a viable option.
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      528. As a home user, not allowing third-party drives is a deal breaker. Choice is the answer. If I choose to take the risk, then it is my choice. I hope they change their mind. I know they make a lot of money on their own branded drives, but it is up to the community to stand up to them and stop buting their hardware.
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      529. There’s a script on github from user 007revad named Synology_HDD_db which is able to add currently installed drives to compatibility list on the fly. It also checks it on every boot in case DSM update overwrites the list. It would be great if you could test the script on DS925+. It won’t allow to initialize the OS, but I wonder if it would allow to create a volume on not officially supported drives.
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      530. I’ve been using Synology nas s for over 10 years . I got a little two bay ugreen nas the other day and I’m very impressed .And I’m thinking of replacing my ds918+ with a ugreen dxp4800 pro now .
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      531. I had a DS2419+ with expansion unit. So place for 24 drives. I never did and never will buy any Synology drives. Sold my units and have gone full Unraid on HL15 systems of 45HomeLab.
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      532. For years, Synology was a reliable choice for me and many of my customers—simple, intuitive, and stable.

        However, over time, Synology’s hardware began to fall behind. Sluggish CPUs, insufficient memory—until the point where I could no longer support virtualization on high-end Synology NAS systems. And these were expensive systems.

        Synology continued to release devices with underpowered processors and limited RAM, while also failing to adopt higher ethernet speeds. That’s where they lost me—and my customers.

        At first glance, their new hardware seemed promising. But then came the restrictive policies. Synology now requires me to purchase their proprietary disks. Sorry, but I prefer to choose my own.

        How do I explain to a customer that, after a system crash, their NAS only accepts Synology-branded disks and refuses others from reputable manufacturers? How do I tell them—while their business is at a standstill—that they must wait three days (example only) for Synology disks before they can resume operations?

        The customer will decide for themselves. This leaves me no choice.

        Anyway, thanks again for another excellent review.
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      536. Sorry but I must say that I don’t think it’s necessary to read any reviews about Synology products again because I believe many customers will not accept their BS policy and will not buy it again
        The old hardware was too outdated in the first place so there was nothing worth seeing, and now there was no need to know it.
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      539. The fact that they are so anal about not letting you use non tested drives is ridiculous. Just give the user a one time warning on initialization that your disks is not on the certified list and let it be with that. In 99% of the cases there will be no problems.

        On another matter .. I have seen several cases of different NAS systems or NAS boards where they Specify a max of eg a 4 disk system 4x 16Tb. Is this just non updated data or is there any problems if buying the newest biggest drives that afaik atm Sata Disks at least go up to 24 TB dependent on brand when your choosing an enterprise drive like eg. EXOS. Is there a hardware or software limit on some NAS OS’es or systems ? I mean why would I buy eg 4 fairly low capacity drives of eg 4-8tb a piece that I will want to update in a year or 2 when I can typically with 4x24gb drives can get a much better tb/money ratio and have around 60 tb with 4 24tb drives in raid 5 that will last me an eternity … or at least very long before I run out of space ????
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      542. I’ve always had Qnap and Synology. Unfortunately, it’s been aging out. The straw that broke the camels back was the lock in drives. I went reluctantly with Ugreen and I have been surprisingly happy with it. I have also been keeping my eye on the Minisforum 5n pro.
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      545. Synology angered the wrong folk. The IT folk who told small and medium sized enterprises to take a chance on them ten years ago.

        None of us will recommend them again after half a decade of software packages falling way behind and causing compliance issues, weak hardware for the faster networks now, the push toward their subscription services, and … the drive thing.

        Rebranding someone else’s disk and calling it “compatible” when your compatibility list was behind by years and years wasn’t the correct fix.

        Bye Synology. I can build customers far better in a low cost low power server chassis. You WERE the value proposition when you kept software up to date and let us use whatever drives we were willing to use based on customer needs.

        We did it because you made a nifty Linux box we didn’t have to faff around with. Now it’s better to build again.
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      547. happy I went with the DS923+ in March. It’ll work as a fileserver as intended for the rest of the time I run my business with DSM doing what it does best. But in the meantime I’m learning about all the other options and once it becomes less mission critical I’ll be homelabbing the next option.
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      549. i got one (not plus) and was annoyed that vm was not working / cpu weak … like the software otherwise … how much more expensive is the system with the approved drives … are you taking it in the rear”?
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      550. Don’t forget that now it’s not anymore a ~600€ device you can break the biggy bank to buy and put you’re existing drives in and go on as you go. Double that to a 1200€ bare minimum price entrance that will get you ~6TB usable, as you have to buy the drives to go with it. So any “on budget DIYers” that want to slowly adopt the ecosystem are now out of the equation.
        Way to go Syno *clap clap clap*
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      552. There might be one good reason for the Lockdown of Drives, but Synology needs to communicate it. At the moment there are lot of counterfeit drives around. Drives with 20k + hours are bought cheap and then resetted and sold as “low milage” drives. Those drives issues are falling back on Synology especially when they can’t read out the farm value of Seagates etc. When you buy a certified Seagate drive you are only 10% cheaper then a Synology drive. As example i see right now a certified Ironwolf Pro 12TB for 290€, a Synology 12TB for 310€ and a Seagate Iron Wolf Pro 12TB for 250€ with an “Enterprise” sticker from a Marketplace, which is most likely counterfeit. Thats the only good reason for locking down the HDD, but Synology should communicate it. I am lucky and just bought a DS 1621+ so it won’t bother me for a while.
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      554. I’ve been eagerly holding out for news of some refreshed rack mount models for a while now, but I’m so p*****d with the news that they are only allowing their own branded HDDs in the 2025 models, that I’ve decided to vote with my wallet and have just this week ordered a pair of QNAP TS-832PXU-RP-4G units instead. I’m not going to support a company who behaves like this.
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      557. Minisforum N5 Pro NAS is coming! -> this one looks very interesting
        ⚙ Key Highlights of N5 Pro:
        ???? Powered by AMD Ryzen™ AI 9 HX PRO 370
        ???? 96GB DDR5 ECC Memory – Error correction for ultra reliability
        ⚡ Native PCIe x16 Slot – Expand with GPU, storage, or networking
        ???? 10Gbps + 5Gbps LAN – Blazing fast connectivity
        ???? Dual-fan cooling, compact industrial design
        ☁ Runs MinisCloud OS with ZFS Snapshots, Docker, AI albums & more
        ???? Built-in NPU with 50 TOPS AI compute power
        ???? Supports Linux, Windows, and open-source NAS platforms
        ???? Modular design for easy DIY upgrades
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      559. am I the only one desperatly waiting for the QNAP TS-h765eU review? Seriously hyped by your video from computec. Now it’s out for a couple of month and still no review. How come?
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      569. Hm i think if you want something to compare with the same software Feature you go with QNAP, ugree und also Terramaster are from the software not at the level like Synology or Qnap in my eyes and i have some Terramaster 424 Pro.
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      572. They’ve made a system that only remains usable while the “compatible” drives are still in production, with no guarantees that they will expand that list in years to come. Good going.
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      574. Customer (and Fan) from Day 1 with the DS-101. It’s really disappointing seeing a Brand with this potential going the wrong path the last Years. Mismanagement at it’s finest. No innovation, middleclass Hardware, restrictions everywhere. The only pro is (was) the OS, but now it’s definitely Time to switch to other Brands that are willing to give good Customer Experience. Sadly true
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      576. VOC has no place at Synology. They will rue the day that arrogance ran marketing and ignore the impact of this on the customers. If they devoted their energy to make the software best in class they work lead the competition. Alas, the beginning of the end Thank you, cheers.
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      579. i was SO Close to buying Scamology, but, NO MORE!! don’t like, don’t support their business practices. UGreen baby…way more bang for the buck!!!
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      580. The review looks like a paid review, like it’s no big deal, you can buy disks, I suggest you unsubscribe from the channel for such a positive review of synology devices.
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      584. Thanks for the review and especially for that you tried the DSM initialization using different disks. So… All in on Truenas Scale and a DIY build! 🙂 In the case Truenas Scale Community Edition goes away, I will just use plain Debian. I will never lock myself in once again. I own a DS214 and DS920+ at the moment, and can’t wait to get rid of them. ( I will probably keep the DS214 as a relic, too old anyway 🙂 )
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      585. Adjust your lipsync, please. Would make it much more professional. Don’t use Bluetooth speaker to edit the videos and verify with built in speakers only (like laptop or tablet).
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      587. Question for your follow-up video: If you start by migrating non-Synology branded drives from an older Syno NAS to the 925+, what happens when you try to hot swap or upgrade them? Can you hot swap or upgrade using IronWolfs or WD Reds, or are you then required to go to Synology branded drives?
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      588. Synology: We have a robust OS and even if we keep on releasing Celeron based machines, people will buy it!
        Synology Sales Department: But we can increase our profits by selling our own drives!

        Jesus. I bet you the next dick ass move they’d be doing is backporting this restriction to old devices.
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      589. As usual , thanks for the FANTASTIC video. I am a 1984 Mac Consultant and veteran who has a half dozen Synology clients with MANY 8-bay Plus units from DS1812+ to DS1821+. And I also PERSONALLY have 5 8-bay units at home. Sweetie & I are BEER VLOGGERS and you need big RAIDS to vlog beer [haha]. Anyhow, it is GREAT news that they will let you migrate to a new unit. I personally have two DS1813+ that DESPERATELY need to be migrated. So great to hear I can do that. BUT, what happens is AFTER a DiskStation is migrated to a DS1825+ and a drive fails. Will you still be able to REPLACE a failed drive with a Seagate IronWolf Pro? This is ESSENTIAL to know in advance for proper planning. And also it is REQUIRED in my and my client deployments. ALL of my personal and client deployments have AT LEAST one 22TB or 24TB drive installed. And as we know Synology caps their NON Pro drives at 16TB. So that would mean TOTAL DATA DISASTER if a drive failed in a MIGRATED 2025+ [that has 22TB & 24TB Ironwolf drives]. Can you ask your sources this critical question? Thanks so much! And, as always, thanks for ALL the great videos.
        – Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ ????Professional????Poets & Bed ???? & Beer???? Vloggers ]
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      590. I’ve purchases some unreliable NAS solutions in the past and was so happy to have found my way to Synology many years ago. I now own four of them not including the ones that I recommended for purchase by my employer. I am saddened to see the tides change with Synology and not looking forward to starting a new search for a new reliable NAS solution that checks all the right boxes. Thankfully this time around the NASCompares channel exists to help with that journey. Thanks for all the reviews, comparisons, and everything else you do! Exceptional work!
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      591. I seriously doubt Synology is making a loss or just breaking even on this hardware. They’ve used the same chassis for years, dropped 10GbE connectivity and replaced 1GbE Ethernet with 2/5GbE Ethernet at an additional cost to them of probably under $10. What you’re paying for, what you’ve always paid for with Synology, is DSM.
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      593. Really wanted to get a Synology but had to Go Qnap I agree They are going down the wrong path . As i always say pick what works for you but they do have a great product wish they would change there mind on the Drives
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      594. Completely agree with fellow commenters, Synology is running in exactly the opposite direction of success. I still have an old 1812+ serving up files offline and haven’t deployed any other brands since. Unfortunately, this is ridiculous and there are so many more good options than there were when I installed my first Synology box.
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      595. if its the HDD firmware that controls compatibility, i wonder if there are tools out there to copy over firmware of compatible to non compatible drives so they can get detected esp if the drive are basically the same bar the firmware.
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      597. It’s always hilarious to me when brands are so sure they’re King and start doing anti-consumer/anti-choice stuff like denying other drives. I get it, there is some argument that they control quality and reduce support costs or whatever. Reality? People care approximately 100x more that they can use whatever drives they want then some marginal promise of better support-ability. Hardware aside (which is just really lacking for a long time compared to competitors), their policy decisions and inability to respond to feedback from the people that pay them will kill the company. Mark my words.
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      599. Oh Synology… no innovation and behind the times imitation… Nope you’ve lost me, time for a self build… shame the DSM software isn’t the worst ????
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      603. So in other words Synology says fu to customers. This seals it I was looking at replacing my ds1815+ what i know right know is it will not be an anti consumer over priced synology device.
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      604. 20:55 Wait, did I just hear Robbie mention Emby?!?!?

        Operator: “911 What’s your emergency?”
        Citizen: “Yeah this guy is on the ground. He mentioned something about a Emmy or Emby and said the name Robbie and then he fainted, I think”
        Operator: “Can you check if he has a pulse? We’re getting a few of these calls today. DId he have a Youtube video playing?”
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      605. After seing what route Synology is taking I wont buy anything from them.But have been looking at Asustor 4 AS5404T I think that might be a good option…any thought about that one ?
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      608. I was waiting for the newest Synology hardware to come out before getting on board. I’m changing my mind and going for UGreen after trying and being happy with their DAS.
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      610. If I want complete control over my hardware and software, I’ll build my own NAS. Maybe Synology should just supply these units pre-populated and ready to run out of the gate as a NAS appliance. This would help to manage people’s expectations and make their motives more transparent.
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      611. Planned to buy 2 DS295+
        Reliability is key, bfrs, mature software.
        I don’t care for old cpu and only 2.5g nic.
        Have working old Synology and never any problem.

        Disk compatibility situation is disturbing.
        I’m not yet giving up on a Synology, but I’m delaying any decision on purchase until there is more information on compatibility on certified 3rd party drives.
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      615. Locking out third party drives is a non starter for me. I currently have an 8 bay 1821+ with a 10GB Ethernet connection. Would you please do a video of alternatives?
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      616. MANY THANKS — Also the insight into power consumption was useful – much higher than I realised. Bought 4 Synology units in the past . . .
        Synology – so called simple DSM – is now being contested by another vendor with very very simple OS
        Looking forward to buying a UGreen DXP8800 PLUS and installing TrueNAS
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      619. I’m hugely disappointed by Synology move, and I was considering replacing both DS920+ and RT2600ac devices soon.
        I will never buy any new Synology device until they change their mind, apologize, publish more consumer-friendly policies and deploy updates to their device to bring any 3rd party drives / periphericals.
        If you have hope Synology would put 3rd party drives in their list, I’d say: NEVER buy tech products based on promises of future updates, NEVER.
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      623. I saw you mentioned that you can bring drives across from an older system. Perhaps difficult to test, but it would be interesting to see if you would be able to exchange a failing “non-supported” drive with a replacement “non-supported” drive, or if you’re then forced to use a Synology branded one.

        At this stage, if Synology would be interested in selling DSM licenses without their device restrictions, I’d be tempted. I still very much like working with DSM.
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      624. Obsolete hardware, locked to their brand hard drives. I’m done. Going to refresh my 2 old Synology NAS to another brand. There are better options out there for hardware. Synology .. you just shot yourself in the foot. The internet doesnt’ forget.
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      625. for me, personally, after the whole drive compatibility and locking out and stuff… for new clients or first time buyers: DON’T! There are several options available, so avoid synology as the plague if you value your freedom. No matter the state of the software, you should not be agreeing with the locking (out) polacy. For existing users with either synology drives, or 3rd party ones that are fairly young: if you have to buy, then I guess you have to. Just keep in mind that since they pulled the stunt with the drives now, it’s always a possability they’ll lock out older gens of their drives eventually… They never said they won’t, so…
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      626. I’m no longer buying any Synology products, they removed all freedom of using any drive you want, they removed 10gbe, removed igpu’s, removed many first party apps and removed support for third party usb devices like Ethernet adapters

        What a terrible way to go.

        I’m in the mids of creating my 16 core threadripper unraid server (I might also try truenas before committing to unraid) where I have as much freedom as i want to use any hardware I want.

        I also have a ugreen dxp4800 plus which is so much better in terms of hardware
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      627. The USB Type C for the DX525 expansion unit seems to be a Thunderbolt port.
        It would make sense as it will allow direct access to PCI-ex lanes, and obviously faster than eSATA.
        Considering Synology put a screw on the connection cable, they probably want to avoid hot unplugging.
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      629. It’s a shame watching all these top Nas YouTubers tip toe around the fact that synology is going full anti consumer here. I guess they don’t want to make daddy upset. lol. These videos like this feel more like paid damage control review videos. I mean look at basically every single comment on every video regarding synology in the last few weeks. It’s pretty clear what the general public thinks of this. It’s funny seeing Linus being the only tech personality with an actual backbone to call it for what it really is and not bow to this corporate machine. Imagine Microsoft waking up one day and saying that windows will only support MS branded Hard drives or hardware. No person should support this behaviour.
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      630. I just talked to my Synology Rep ,, He Replied the following.
        No information on this side it looks like we should have more information on the hardware compatibility list in June!

        I then replied I would need to put any New Synology purchases on hold till Synology decides there policies.
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      631. Wow…A CPU (without GPU) from 2018, no KI Features, missarable Docker-Support, just Synology HDDs. I hope they will lose 95% of their private customers.
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      632. Sorry if I didn’t catch this in the video but what happens if you migrate from the 923+ with WD or Seagate drives to the 925+ and then replace one of the WD/Seagate drives on the 925+? I assume if won’t initialize even though it did as part of the migration?
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      633. Simple as that – ARC loader – Synology unchained working perfect. I hope Linus will do that banned video about Xpenology – they unleashed lawyer dogs on him when he was preparing it. He hates them to the core and promised never ever touch their NASes again.
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      634. I’m not buying another turnkey NAS, so it doesn’t impact me. BUT if I was. There is no way in hell I would trust a statement that we are going to expand the compatibility list going forward. Only a complete fool would assume that. No one should buy this garbage. Synology should have delayed this for a generation so they or their vendors could get a more complete compatibility list, with maybe only missing the extreme top tier stuff that may have come out between the final testing and the release of the device.
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      635. If I’m wanting to upgrade my Synology 918+ that I use mainly for plex, are there any suggestions as to where I should look. I do utilize transcoding for remote playback so that is something I will need in the new unit.
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      637. Corey Doctorow needs more credit for coining the term “enshitification.”

        I was willing to pay more for less hardware because the software was so good, but now even that is slowly eroding, and now everything is worse. They are clearly trading their past reputation for temporary profit increases. Synology will never be worthwhile again.

        I am heavily invested in the Synology ecosystem, but I will not be buying any other products from them ever again.

        3:30 Consumer-grade NAS units should use bigger fans for less noise. People use these things in homes for crying out loud.
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      638. Waited months for this to appear, very pissed off when it did, too little too late Synology, bought a Ugreen DXP 4800 Plus and very happy 4 * 8TB Seagate Iron Wolf Pro, upgraded to 64GB memory, 1TB SSD cache, brilliant.
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      641. Thank you for the review. I’ve used Synology for the last 11 years. I’m going to buy a new NAS next week and will not buy a NAS that mandates I use their own hard drives. Synology has headed down the wrong path which is highly disappointing. Going UGreen next week
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      644. This is such a terrible policy. I predict that whenever DSM 7.4 is released in a few months, Synology will backtrack on this entire scheme.
        Synology needs a few months and a few financial reports to realize this compatibility scheme was a horrible idea.
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      645. Removing usb functionality is clearly a push to cloud backups in the future. Security my a$$. My USB backups at various locations are the most secure. Glad to move on from this company’s products. It’s like they want to keep the gunned at their feet every time.
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      647. So, my currently equipped exos disks on my 8 bay Synology Nas which are on that compatibility list are now no longer compatible?!? What have Synology done for those older models to get them on the compatibility list? Was that all some show and shuffling of money and no real tests? And why are disks from vendors that say they are for enterprise nasses not automatically approved? As if those vendors don’t know what they are doing (wd red as exemption with their shingled drives). This all feels so wrong on so many levels.
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      649. I was going to buy a DS1825+ when it will be released, but I am conflicted. I was going to use Seagate Factory Refurbished harddisk, but since I may not be able to and need to spend ~$155 extra on each harddisk, I am considoring just buying the DS1821+ – The price for using Synology drives will be the whole price of the NAS in extra spend.
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      650. I have the ds920+. This will be my first and last synology. Will never buy another synology. Going DIY route moving forward when this ds920+ dies.
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      652. Stop this and support the community. Boycott Synology until they change their asinine policies. With you and other NAS channels we can force them to back down.
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      653. My ds1819+ is my last synology. I’m not seeing value in why I would upgrade to newer models. Sybokogy needs to learn it needs to show value for existing people for them to upgrade. 2.5G should have been standard years ago. 10gbit and dedicated nvme. Rack mount still doesn’t have it on the base. Over time I’ve found that I use my synology mostly as a docker host plus basic nas functions. A second hand dell R240 in my opinion beats this hands down.

        Show people the new value your devices are providing and you’ll sell more. It’s clear synology are trying to maximize their profits and reduce their costs. Compared to my existing 6 year old unit i get, slightly faster cpu, same power consumption, same noise, less network, same software. Why would i upgrade (I realize I’m not comparing the same products. While I’m interested in what the new DS1825+ I would never buy one.
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      656. Many thanks, great video 🙂

        Good box for SMBs but for home use, no. I was considering this and the DS1525, over the last 5 years, Synology has removed so many options and features since I purchased the DS systems so best I get something else 🙁

        Synology appear to be so many years behind everyone else with the hardware. As Synology has stated, they are a business appliance provider.

        I just can’t justify the additional cost of Synology branded HDD/SSD/NVMe/Memory.
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      659. Great review as always. I appreciate you tried migrating, and that the old pools and volumes mounted and worked in the new hardware. Have you tried removing a single drive from a working pool of non-synology drives, and replacing it with a like “non-synology” branded drive? I’m curious if a drive fails, can we “repair” with another non-branded drive or not. While still not ideal, would give me a little better feeling about migration if I had to do so. Though as a DS923+ user, replacing my existing unit with another DS923+ would make more sense, particularly since I have additional RAM and the 10Gb card for it. Thanks again for your videos and have a great day.
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      660. I thought Synology just been greedy and stupid, trying to monopolize SMART in a NAS system, but they just shutdown all 3rd-party drives for the new NAS, this is going full retard at max speed.

        But at some degree I understand their decision, the new gen of Chinese NAS brands are rising, there is no hope for Synology in home user market, so it’s best for them to cash in all these years of good rep while it still can.
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      661. I’ve had three Synologys over the years and been pretty happy with them overall. I only use them as file servers though. I see a lot of people here saying they will not be buying again. I’m just curious to why. Is it only the harddrive issue or do you guys have other issues with these new models?
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      662. It can be the best NAS ever created, I am not touching Synology stuff ever again and I have had 5 or 6 of their units over 15 years or so (I am still running 3 of them). The trust is gone with their anti-consumer bs.
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      663. Given for how long Synology supports old systems, you’re better off buying a DS923+. You only get a newer CPU on DS925+ but with a ton of drawbacks.
        Also I’m hoping for HexOS to pick up fast this niche where people want reliable systems with lots of features but it has to be really simple to use and set up.
        Let’s see how it goes
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      673. Mediocre hardware upgrade, removing upgrade path for 10GbE connection and final nail in the coffin – third party hardware restrictions foolery made leave this ecosystem after over 10 years. Thanks Synology for making this decision easier and easier with your shitty politics over the years.
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      677. My DS923+ was my first and last Synology. Too bad, as it’s been a decent NAS for what I need but I’ll be going back to DIY once this one is ready for replacement.
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      678. I’ll probably catch a 923+ once i can get a cheap one (new or refurbished) since i want to “upgrade” my existing 918+ and 517 solution and i really want to have the 10gbe option and i want to carry on using the old expansion bay. But that’s going to be my last Synology product i guess. When they started to partially lock out other HDD vendors it was already a bitter pill, but they are going way too far. Vendor lock in the business segment is understandable but for home users and prosumers it’s understandably a dealbreaker i’d say. The Software may be as good as it gets but the hardware and the “philosophy” of the company i don’t want to support anymore.
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      682. i’m running an old DS918+ and love it. i was given it used, as a gift, and thought Synology was a rockstar with their NAS devices (2020 or so). Now? Yeah, no , I’ll be building my own from now on. What a horrible company.
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      694. As for the 10G Slot on th e925+ etc missing:
        As long as I finally get 2.5G that is fine for me, shelling out over 100,- for an overpriced 10G slot-in always rubbed me the wrong way .

        On another note, shame to hear they still do not support the nvme-bays as proper drives.
        There is no reason not to allow users to install the system on there for massively improved random read performacne other than Synologies usual unwillingness to live in the present.
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      699. Downgrading a Synology NAS, such as the DS224+, from DSM 7.2.2 to DSM 7.2.1 is not officially supported by Synology, as their policy typically only allows forward updates. However, it is possible to perform an unofficial downgrade using a manual process. This involves resetting the system, manipulating the DSM version file, and installing the desired version. Below are the steps tailored for your DS224+ model, but please note the following:

        – **Disclaimer**: This is an unofficial method, not supported by Synology. Proceed at your own risk, as it could lead to data loss, system instability, or bricking your NAS if done incorrectly. Always back up your data first.
        – **Prerequisites**: You’ll need a computer with Synology Assistant installed, a terminal application (like PuTTY for Windows or Terminal for macOS), and the DSM 7.2.1 .pat file for the DS224+.

        ### Steps to Downgrade DSM 7.2.2 to 7.2.1 on DS224+

        1. **Backup Your Data**
        Before proceeding, back up all data on your DS224+ to an external drive or another device using Hyper Backup or another method. A downgrade can potentially wipe settings or data, so this step is critical.

        2. **Download Required Files**
        – Go to the Synology Download Center (synology.com/support/download), select “DS224+”, and locate the DSM 7.2.1 full installation file (e.g., `DSM_DS224+_64570.pat`). Avoid incremental update files.
        – Also, create a “fake” .pat file: Open a text editor, type a few random characters (e.g., “test”), and save it as `fake_DS224+.pat`.

        3. **Enable SSH and Telnet**
        – Log in to DSM on your DS224+.
        – Go to **Control Panel > Terminal & SNMP**, enable both SSH and Telnet services, and apply the changes.

        4. **Reset the NAS to a Migratable State**
        – Go to **Control Panel > Update & Restore > Reset**, and select “Reset system configuration” (this keeps your data but wipes settings).
        – After the reset, the NAS will restart and enter a “migratable” state.

        5. **Locate the NAS with Synology Assistant**
        – Open Synology Assistant on your computer and scan for your DS224+. It should appear with a status of “Migratable” and a temporary DHCP IP address.
        – Note the IP address displayed.

        6. **Trigger an Error with the Fake .pat File**
        – In Synology Assistant, right-click the DS224+ and select “Install” or “Update.”
        – Choose the fake .pat file (`fake_DS224+.pat`) and start the installation. It will fail at around 4-5%, opening the Telnet port (23). This is intentional.

        7. **Access the NAS via Telnet**
        – Open a terminal application (e.g., PuTTY on Windows or Terminal on macOS).
        – Select Telnet, enter the NAS IP address from Step 5, set the port to 23, and connect.
        – Log in with username `root` and password `101-0101`.

        8. **Edit the VERSION File**
        – Once logged in, type the following command to edit the DSM version file:
        “`
        vi /etc/VERSION
        “`
        – Press `i` to enter insert mode, then overwrite the contents with the following (specific to DSM 7.2.1 for DS224+):
        “`
        majorversion=”7″
        minorversion=”2″
        productversion=”7.2.1″
        buildphase=”GM”
        buildnumber=”64570″
        smallfixnumber=”0″
        builddate=”2023/06/01″
        buildtime=”00:00:00″
        “`
        – Press `Esc`, then type `:wq` and press Enter to save and exit.

        9. **Install DSM 7.2.1**
        – Return to Synology Assistant, locate the NAS again (it may still show as migratable), and select “Install” or “Update.”
        – This time, choose the real DSM 7.2.1 .pat file (`DSM_DS224+_64570.pat`) you downloaded in Step 2.
        – Proceed with the installation. The NAS will reboot once complete.

        10. **Verify and Restore**
        – After rebooting, log in to DSM via your browser using the NAS IP. It should now run DSM 7.2.1.
        – Restore your data and settings from the backup if needed.

        ### Important Notes
        – **Data Risk**: While this method aims to preserve data, there’s no guarantee. If the storage pool or volumes are incompatible due to changes between versions, you may need to recreate them, losing data.
        – **Post-Downgrade Issues**: Some packages or settings from 7.2.2 may not work on 7.2.1 and might require reinstallation or repair via Package Center.
        – **Official Alternative**: If this process fails or seems too risky, consider contacting Synology Support for guidance, though they may recommend a fresh install of 7.2.1, which wipes everything.

        If you encounter errors (e.g., “file corrupt” or “cannot initialize disks”), double-check the .pat file integrity (use a checksum if available) and ensure you’re using the correct DS224+ version. Let me know if you need further assistance!
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      700. Please don’t recommend Synology NAS anymore after they kill their customer by DSM 7.2.2.
        They can steal what they deliver. And they will do the same thing in the future again and again. Don’t trust Synology.
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      701. If they’d bothered to ask the consumers, they’d realize we want a 10GBE option and good hardware transcoding with 5 storage bays, USB-C 10BGPS expansion and a wider selection of compatible drives. But nooo let’s do the opposite.
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      707. Very dissapointing. The only reason to buy a NAS from Synology is its software which is undoubtly the best software out there. Personally I’ve migrated to QNAP.
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      708. Why would they change hardware if what u have its enough for everything? Maybe u get 2 more years for support if u buy this . But in 10 or 8 years later i am sure u buy another one meantime 🙂
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      715. I’m currently on a 920+. Was hoping to upgrade it this year but the fact there’s no integrated graphics will be a step back for me as I often stream Emby away from home and the transcoding is already slow enough, unless the CPU in these new boxes manages to be faster than the integrated graphics it’s a hard no from me. Maybe if they support more than 8GB of RAM I could be tempted but looks like I’m skipping another generation
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      716. If this is accurate (and I only say if because Synology haven’t officially announced it to us yet, but those photos seem legit), that’s embarrassing. I’ve recently come to the conclusion that I really need a NAS, and because of your videos I came to the conclusion that Synology is the best choice both in general and specifically for certain parts of my use case. I was fully prepared to pull the trigger on the DS1825+, but not with that hardware. At this point, I’ll just get some more powerful solution, and just deal with the wacky software.

        I was expecting they’d refresh with one of the new CPUs that has an NPU (so they can advertise it as “AI”, but it’d at least be way faster than a 2016 AMD cpu, even moreso with facial recognition in the photos app), and I would’ve really loved to see thunderbolt support (for faster temporary connections to your laptop).
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      718. These are refreshes, not improvements. I currently rock a DS-918+ with 32GB of ram, two 500GB Cache drives, and four 8TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives. This setup with the Intel Celeron J3455 has video transcoding which is important for me. Synology has only upped the network, while trimming internal functionality, again.
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      720. No surprise. Synology has moved to enterprise customers for some years now, not catering to individuals anymore. UGreen is coming on strong and more coming for us users.
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      724. What a waste of an opportunity for Synology! Who, in their right mind, would upgrade from a DS923+ to a DS925+. You lose the 10GBe and get the same level of performance. If they made a leap to current edge technology with 10GBe built in, I would upgrade. Also, they should be including Thunderbolt 5 support. USBC, really? Synology needs to be bought out, reworked, and made relevant as a new technology provider. This is just silly! Time to fire the R&D department.
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      726. So they took away the 10 gb option for a built in 2.5? No thank you, Id rather and did buy the 10 gb adapter card and am pretty much future proof there albeit with extra $$ up front
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      727. Only 1 expansion unit on the 1525+? That’s a bit of a downgrade. Why didn’t synology just put in a 10gbps usb-c controller and 2 usb-c ports, that way not a downgrade to expandability and an upgrade to connection type.
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      728. Could you make a video about a Synology NAS + Mac mini solution as a home server? Since the performance of these synology systems seems to never increase, I thought it would be a good combo, using the Mac for all processor intensive tasks and the synology mainly for storage. I am getting annoyed with plex on my DS720+ and thought an upgrade would help, but after seeing the specs of the new gen, it does not seem worth it. There are few articles about this kind of setup online.
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      730. Synology has let us down again! Here are two key reasons:
        1. No 10Gb networking installed
        2. No integrated graphics

        Why continue using outdated technology? At the very least, give consumers the option to buy truly high-end features. What do you all think? Would you pay more for top shelf?
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      731. It is completely beyond me how people still spend their hard earned money on Synology garbage NAS’s (1GB NICs, 2/4GB RAM, deficient CPUs, lack of PCIe expansion etc). Then to make matters worst they pour salt in the wound with restrictions on which RAM & HDDs you can install unless of course you spend extra money unnecessarily for the Synology branded options. They even restrict you from using NVME drives as storage drives unless they’re Synology branded smdh.
        I guess the only purpose Synology serves is to somewhat keep QNAP on their toes.
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      732. ❤ I’ve been watching you for years and I love your commitment and trustworthy viewpoint of what you know based on experience. Thank you. Love, Greg ???? And love, Synology
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      733. I wonder if anyone from Synology reads threads like this. I would think they would expect excitement over the release of several new products. But instead it is overwhelming disappointment. At the time of this writing, there are 260 comments and I have seen only a small handful of positive thoughts sprinkled in. And even those are really just in defense of using older CPUs; I don’t see ANY that are truly excited.
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      735. My 1019+ with 16G RAM, 2.5G adapter and HW transcoding with a lifetime Plex pass gives me no reason to upgrade. I’ve sold my surveillance station licences and deleted the app. I will not be handcuffed to Synology only HDD’s and continually see apps and functionality being removed. This is my last Synology Box
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      736. I’m on a 918+ wanting to upgrade and this is beyond disappointing. I’m very interested in the that mini pc Nas I saw a few videos on. At least I can say the 918+ has been sold for years but, synology seems to be stuck in the apple ???? mentality. Seems they think they can sell the same thing every year and everyone continues to buy. I guess it’s definitely time to move on!
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      738. I have a ds414play and have been considering upgrading. Based on the underwhelming hardware described in this video, why shouldn’t I just buy a Mac Mini with Thunderbolt 5? It seems you have to really really like DSM software to stay with Synology.
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      739. My DS1817+ died in November 2023 and, thinking that a replacement for the DS1821+ was due out anytime I’ve been waiting ever since. I’m just glad that the DS1825+ is coming out and that I’ll get the full software support for 10 years (?) rather than going for a DS1821+ with 6 (?) years of support? I’m fairly certain that my DS1817+ has a motherboard that has failed and I’m just hoping that the disks are okay!!!
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      741. I think Synology’s increasingly restrictive compatibility requirements on RAM, NVMEs and HDDs are becoming a deal breaker. In particular their requirement to use synology brand RAM and NVMEs make their use prohibitively expensive – difficult to justify in price performance terms. Forcing people to use Synology branded HDDs restricts upgrade and modernisation paths. These policies are short sighted.
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      743. Honest question from a NAS beginer that I’ve been waiting for a new Synology NAS: I read all the dissapointed on the comments, and people name Ungreen and others but what about THE SOFTWARE!!! the real value of the Synology is the software, my fear of go to Ungreen is being hacked due the software.
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      744. I was vainly hoping for a decent intel based media server NAS somewhere in the Synology line-up that would supersede my 920+ but last month I gave up and built my own set-up and switched over to TrueNAS Scale – fair to say there was a steep learning curve but now I have a much much better system for my media. I keep a 224+ for work files and that’s adequate for basic storage. Overall the Synology refresh is just a bit “meh”.
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      745. well… ether a year or two old use model from them or building/ugreen. i knew covid would have a many year knock on affects for parts.. but show how little overall og stock there was on parts.
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      746. What an absolute joke! Synology is clueless. The only good thing about these 2025 models is that they will make the current models cheaper! I absolutely will NOT be buying any of these new models. Seriously, 98% of these specs are the same… and the lack of PCIe and or 10GbE standard on most of the :refresh” is an insult to 2025 buyers. Complete middle finger to consumers and it’s existing customer base! Seriously, just buy a two bay unit for the software and call it a day!
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      747. If it is their response to the numerous successful NASes released recently, then they will loose a lot of customers.
        I personally wanted to migrate my home NAS from 2-bay to 4-6 bays. I waited till their release because I love the software. But it does not make any sense. Old, slow and ineffective CPUs, memory limitations, Ethernet limitations, no integrated GPU on most models. These devices are obsolete even before release.
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      749. “We have plenty of stock of very cheap or discontinued products… That we can sell at golden price with an additional price of 25% (thank you to Trump).” – Syno
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      751. Just moving to 2.5Gig , when the other vendors are moving to 10Gig. I currently have a DS920+ the 2, 1Gig ports trunked. I was hoping they would have advanced a little further by now. Disappointing, will move on.
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      752. Too late, already got the QNAP h973ax with 10gbe and 32gb ram a few months ago….. Maybe when that device is EOL in 2029, Synology will have 10gb and 32gb ram as standard ? ????
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      760. Well, Synology is helping me to save money by not releasing products that are worth upgrading to. My good old DS1520+ will keep being the main unit and my DS723+ will keep being the backup unit. Nothing here to be exited about!
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      762. Saw this coming a mile away. I’ve completely ditched Synology hardware and am rocking the 10-core Intel 1235U in my Ugreen DXP8800 running Proxmox and Synology DSM in a VM and couldn’t be happier. Performance is leagues beyond my old DS1821.
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      765. Been waiting for a new 6 bay for years now. Needless to say that I’m highly disappointed that it’s not in the picture… And even if I decided to go to a different model, the “upgrades” are equally disappointing. I’ve always hesitated to move on from Synology, now I’m getting more and more convinced I should make the move (probably QNap)
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      772. I find it difficult to believe they’d remove the 10Gbe PCI-e slot option. I have a 1517+, and I really wanted to just move the drives into the latest S. box, but I need the 10Gbe. I’ve got a Ugreen DXP480T for current projects, and it’s great (fast processor, 10Gbe built-in, Thunderbolt), but the software still leaves a lot to be desired. I really didn’t want to pay to move to another set of drives (I’m up to 5x 8TB). I’ll probably have to move to a different ecosystem/brand at this point. Ubiquiti? Ugreen? Something with a U….

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      775. Synology once again shows the middle finger to SOHO and Plex users. Looks like I’ll be going with a UGreen solution to update my aging DS916+…….if only UGreen sold NAS directly in the UK!
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      777. It’s disappointing, but for me, it is all about the software i can not go away what ever. Synology Drive and Snology Photos are for me not easy to replace.
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      779. Nah, one step forward and another back… Synology aren’t leading with innovation here it’s barely catching up. No 10 Gig, not interested then… shame DSM wasn’t available as a standalone OS.
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      782. Do not spend your time:
        Highlight- Synology decided to use 2.5g nic in 2025, that’s the whole upgrade. (Feel free to close).
        Everything else is negligible and not even an upgrade if you had a model above average before.

        PS: never heard of most disappointing upgrade in life
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      784. The fact that they still have enough of that Celeron J4125 (a 2019 proccessor that is EoL) on-hand to build an entire new 2025 model (who knows when that will see EoL since it’s not like they upgrade annually) should tell you all you need to know about this companies foresight. 2.5GBe is their big leap forward in connectivity standards? Most have moved on to 5GBe or even 10GBe by now and ol’ Synology out here dipping a toe in the 2.5GBe waters in 2025. Wow. Rocking my DS920+ for the foreseeable future and then I’ll be doing anything but Synology for the next NAS.

        To think that I used to complain when Synology had poor rack offerings. If only that were still the issue in 2025. For others reading, Ubiquiti released a NAS last year called the UNAS Pro that’s a 2u rack-mountable chassis, 10GBe networking, redundant powering options and 7-drive bays for a retail price of $499. And that’s from one of the more notorious names in over-charging for tech, mind you. If you want real business-class data storage there’s far better options now and for the foreseeable future from the looks of things.

        In terms of pro-sumer and enthusiasts (who Synology seems to hate now even though they wouldn’t exist w/o them), it wouldn’t take much for Ubiquiti to add an integrated graphics CPU, expandable RAM and application/docker support to that UNAS Pro to release an upgraded UNAS called the MAX Pro XCG LMNOP (or whatever) for probably $699. RIP Synology. I would say it’s been a good run but I don’t feel like lying.

        Thanks again for another great video and doing all of the legwork on this video though so the rest of us don’t have to endure the brain damage only to find out it’s another dud of a year. You helped me a lot with my NAS choice years ago and I’ll be watching closely over the coming months/years to see what other offerings become viable as their software matures.
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      789. I’ll take an unpopular stance. Unless they restrict the new units to Synology only drives (which may be a showstopper as I won’t be able to just transfer my current disk array into the new unit) I’ll likely be upgrading my trusty DS1512+ to the DS1525+. For me Synology gives the rock solid reliability in hardware and software that I need. The 2.5Gb ports will be welcome, but I won’t need 10Gb anytime soon. The new processor will also be sufficient for my needs for quite a while. The additional memory will be great as will nvme caching.

        Clearly I’m not a power user, but there are probably more people and businesses like me out there than there are power users who might need the latest and greatest. Not everybody needs or wants a Lamborghini when an ultra reliable Toyota will do them just fine.
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      790. When are they available for sale?
        I just bought an 224+ yesterday wich I could return for 30 days.
        I was waiting for so long for 2,5gbe nics since I’m running ssd’s in the unit.
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      791. Does Synology offer ZFS on any of their hardware? I know there are more hardware requirements for ZFS, but that is what I am really looking for from Synology.
        I am currently using a DS923+. But I am reading about a lot of advantages to using ZFS.
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      794. While I agree with the sentiments expressed here over the lack of hardware updates from Synology, it’s important to remember that what makes a good NAS is it’s software. Hardware is easy, software is hard. The thing I like about my pair of Synology NAS’s is DSM. Things just work. No fuss, no tinkering, no intermittent failures or erratic behaviour.

        Most home users really do not require 10GbE or faster CPU’s etc. They’re nice to have but for the majority of home users, I think the hardware, though dated, is sufficient for their use case.

        My biggest concern about moving away from DSM is the quality of the OS being used. For example, I don’t know if UGreen, Terramaster or QNAP offer a Synology Drive equivalent, and if they do, if it’s as dependable and easy to configure.

        For me, it’s the OS that is the prime factor for a NAS and the hardware a secondary consideration. You can have decent functionality with an excellent OS running on slower hardware, but poor software on the best hardware is next to useless.

        Sure, I don’t like the way Synology has gone with regards hard drives etc, and I’m not saying I’d stay with Synology forever. I’m just concerned over the quality of the software of other solutions.
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      795. Excellent news, Synology well done ????

        You could have gone all the way, with state of the art new Ryzens, and Intel N series. Forcing your customers to upgrade… but your being eco friendly, using that warehouse of CPUs you over purchased in 2019!

        You’ve just saved me about £3000..
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      796. SYnology don’t have to do anything …. with Asustor pricing themselves out of the market and Qnap still less then stellar with Customer support it is really only the Chinese brands with their software issues that can offer any real competition however ….IF UNIFI actually did a proper NAS -Game over
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      797. I would 1000% jump ship to another NAS platform with better hardware, if it wasn’t for the free Active Backup for Business license we get with Synology NAS. The other software solutions that I found are just too expensive for personal use. This could be a good video to cover if you were able to compare other bare bones backup software solutions (hopefully with de-duplication) in comparison to active backup for business.
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      798. Once UGREEN figures out their OS, it’s basically game over for Synology. That’s saying a lot since it’ll take a long time for them to figure that out, but man does their hardware just smoke synology’s 2019 processor bullshit with a premium price tag.
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      809. the poor showing at Computex motivated me to stop waiting for new a DS9/DS15 product and just build a NAS from scratch, was scared for a minute that I had missed out here but am quite happy with my Q670 build, good to see they’re ditching 1GbE but my machine has 2 x 2.5GbE and I’ve got a PCIe5.0 x16 slot
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      811. Goodbye Synology – hello Ugreen ????. Synology should go back and read what happened to Blackberry – THAT is their future. I’m buying 2x Ugreen devices, can run native OS, Unraid or Truenas. Then there are options like GMKtek and Lincstation, so long story short, Synology have missed the boat and will be playing catch-up to get some of their market share back!
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      814. *Update* In order to better track each of the new Synology NAS revealed at this event, I have made update pages for each device below. Additionally, as mentioned in the video, I am canvassing user feedback on these new releases (ideally existing Synology NAS users and/or SIs – system integrators) for a follow up video soon. put your feedback in the comments below or in the Reddit thread here – https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/1ja7hmq/discussing_the_news_on_synology/

        Synology DS525+, DS1525+, DS425+, DS1825+, DS1825xs+, DS225+ NAS Reveal https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds525-ds1525-ds425-ds1825-and-more-revealed/
        Synology DS925+ NAS News https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds925-nas-news/
        Synology DS1525+ NAS Leak https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds1525-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS425+ NAS Revealed https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds425-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS1825+ NAS News https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds1825-nas-news/
        Synology DS425+ NAS News https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds425-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS1825xs+ NAS Revealed https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds1825xs-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS225+ NAS News https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds225-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS1825+ NAS Leaked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvpgpeKEE0A
        Synolgoy DS625slim 6-Bay NAS Revealed https://nascompares.com/news/synolgoy-ds625slim-6-bay-nas-revealed/
        Synology DS725+ NAS Revealed https://nascompares.com/news/synology-ds725-nas-revealed/
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      820. It seems to me like Synology is trying to balance the effects of technological progress by applying some form of reverse Moore’s Law. In a few more years, their refreshed product line will match the performance of my 10 year old DS214. Tired of waiting for them, time to look elsewhere.
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      825. My guess is the quote of USB at 6 Gb is a mistake and somebody was thinking of SATA… to engineer 6 GB USB wouldn’t make any sense, especially given how little effort they’ve put into these upgrades
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      828. Still not seeing any reason to move up from my Synology DS918+ which I bought just after launch. Sorry Synology, your software is amazing and I’ve had no issues with any of my previous purchases. I guess I’m just not your preferred customer anymore.
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      829. If a new one with ‘same hardware’ just 2.5gbe costs much more than the usb to 2.5Gbe adapter, people should might consider buy 2.5Gbe adapter only and save money (if they already have one) and if they don’t, maybe by an old model, and if want, buy 2 adapters one as backup ???? and still saving money
        The prices are ‘crazy’ and for example here in brazil, they’re totally crazy.
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      836. Underpowered and overpriced.
        With all those new NAS (ugreen and others) I don’t know why one should choose Synology at this time, apart from the software (but we have truenas, unraid…)
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      838. i feel so bad for selling my old nas, this is just shit, no 10GBE ON THE 1825???? JOKE COMPANY, its time to buy unifi unas pro with 2bay synology for phone backup only
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      840. Fantasic news. Thanks for putting this out so quickly – it’s made my day (sad, I know!). I use a 920+ and skipped the 923+ because I could not believe the dumb and short sighted approach by Synology by not including 2.5GbE on it, a MASSIVE fail, IMO. But this 925+ looks like it’s going to be my next NAS, BUT, will I be able to remove my 4 drives out of my 920+ and just drop them in to my 925+ when it arrives???
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      841. Intel J4125, comon Synology, with N100/305 out there? i understand not moving right away, because of their policy into having more stable setups, but by now the N100/305 are probably the best choices for small server.
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      844. For the expansion units, the USB-C port is probably connected directly to the processors of the DS and the expansion units, but the drives are all connected with SATA protocols and hardware, so they can’t promess any more speed than SATA 6Gbps even if the port is 10Gbps. Maybe the port is USB-C 10Gbps and can be used for other means tho?
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      845. Moved to Terra master F4 424 last year, after being with Synology since my very first NAS donkeys years ago. Looking at this refresh it was still a good move. I can use it with TOS6 or anything else I choose, pick the drives I want, Synology these days is just over priced Cr@p. Love this channel and thanks for getting up so early.
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      847. meh, if it aint broke dont fix it.. they probably have a huge stockpile of those old CPU’s they are trying to get rid of. For storage.. they are more than adequate.. for people that want more and more out of their appliance.. docker.. vms.. this isn’t the right choice.. but it never was..

        lets hope they create a new series for power users like that.. other wise.. you gotta build something yourself.
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      852. Just set up my new DS923+ yesterday…… Would have liked the 2.5gbe but doesn’t really look like I’ve missed out on much. And still have the 10gbe option should I ever actually need it!
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      855. Two x 2.5 is much better than 4×1 in LAG. While 4×1 LAG gives you a combined 4Gbbps of bandwidth its only 1Gbbps PER STREAM. Dual 2.5’s in lag gives you 5Gbbps aggregate, which yeah is a 1G upgrade, but ALSO gives you 2.5Gbps per stream which is a huge improvement.
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      857. Well, saying I’m disappointed is a big understatement!
        I feel even more disappointed than when they announced the RS1821+ without nVME slots! ????
        I think it’s time to move on…
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      858. Been running multiple Synology NAS units since the days of the DS207. With the other competitors listening to what their non enterprise users want, I can’t help but continue to look elsewhere for my daily driver NAS. Having a UGREEN and QNAP, those both continue to just look better (if their software can be as reliable).
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      862. I own a Synology and am looking for a 2nd NAS. Will not be looking at Synology for that. I am interested to see how UGreen progresses in its app development. Would be nice to have an update on their progress.
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      863. Hmmm, just bought Ugreen with Intel u1235, thanks synology for reminding me, why i migrate from my 1522+… Like putting new carpets to the car… and call it refreshed new version ???? Ugreen allow me use any ram i want (not overpriced synology one), allow me to create volume on nvme, allow me install other os and the EXOS drives are a bit quiter in ugreen (guess that metal chassis with a bit of space on synology doesnt help reduce noise).
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      865. Honestly, if I need a new device, I’ll look elsewhere. Yes, I use it to back up laptops and as a media hub for photos and videos. Shame as I have Synology mesh as well, this will also go to a different supplier in due course
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      866. Nothing compelling. Seems my RS1619sx+ remains a “current” model. Wish it had WORM/immutable shares, but as far as I know, it still dos not. If I had to buy a desktop NAS right now, it would probably be UGREEN. Their OS is still evolving. It’s not bad in its current form and I am free to put something else on the box.
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      868. Kind of hard to entertain an upgrade when I’m using a DS712+ still (and also a DS420+; both are NAS ONLY and running nothing else)

        It’s clear that my upgrade path will be a (rubbishy in some ways) custom-built NAS out of some 2U case. Trick there is to be able to fit several 3.5″ mechanical hard drives, decent cooling for the mainboard, and upgradability to faster than 1Gbps on MY terms. Not everyone can afford optical or even a copper Nexus switch to get 10Gbps; yes I realize I’m an infra snob and “thing that works like Cisco” is what I expect in infra (10Gbps is still stubbornly expensive at scale, at least at home)

        I miss ZFS and I want my next NAS solution to support it.
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      871. 1825+ with dual 2.5Gbe would be more than enough for most users, so it’ll be ultimately about the price – if it doesn’t go any higher than 1821+ then it may remain competitive on the market, but if it costs any penny more, then it’s not worth over older model at all
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      873. Went over to Unraid and built my own micro box with potentially 6 bays. Never going back to the many rip off manufacturers like Synology. I am gobsmacked at their attitude and almost zero technology advances

        But love this channel and always come here to keep up dated
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      876. I am excited about these new releases. Maybe the 22, 23 and 24 units will come down in price and I can buy one of those! In the mean time, where do I look for used units to purchase cheap? Some of us are on tight budgets. Our CFO has an iron fist of NO when it comes to new technology purchases. (CFO=Wife).
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      881. Glad I went with the T6-423 from Terramaster. Been pretty good for what I need it. HDHomeRun Docker and Plex, iTunes Library location.
        I encode the videos for iTunes and then Plex Library picks up the folder contents.
        So streaming iTunes videos to AppleTV Plex Client or AppleTV client from Apple.
        As such the NAS not doing any transcoding.
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      882. I currently own a Synology DiskStation918. Over the years, I’ve noticed that Synology has been gradually locking down their hardware, which has been a significant deterrent for me. I’ve been keeping an eye on the DXP4800+ since its release last year, but it has unfortunately been unavailable in the UK. I reached out to UGREEN regarding a potential UK release of the DXP4800+. Within 10 minutes, I received a confirmation that the product should be available in a few weeks, subject to any unforeseen delays.
        Bye,bye Synology. I’ve moved on, unlike your hardware.
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      886. I’ve got into Synology in 2020 with a DS220+ for home use, plex and photo archiving. I won’t consider Synology for future upgrades and I’ll keep an eye on other OS and hardware. The N100 and N150 looks awesome at least for me and I’m looking forward to HexOS. Looks like this is the aim of Synology, getting rid of home users, literally anything alse around is more convenient
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      894. Moved to ASUSTOR LOCKSTER 4 GEN 2 as I feel synology hardware is lot more older than its compitetors. atleast lockster gen 2 came with N5105 processor which is an older ver but not as old as synologies.
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      898. LOL, what a joke. This just confirms I will never buy Synology ever again. They are living under a rock.
        No reflection on your great videos…thanks for taking the time to share all the helpful info.
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      904. They really don’t give a sh¡t about the home/enthusiast/small business market do they? “Let’s make the very least, minimal changes, and up the year number to make it look like it’s a newer and better thing”. They’re like my ex-wife was, always late, always a disappointment, and always trying to tell me they’re better and more value than they really are, and they think I’m a sucker and I’m going to come back because they do that one thing very, very well! Seriously though, if the DS15 doesn’t support 10GbE and the only change on the DS18 is to 2x 2.5GbE, I reckon I’d probably be better off getting discounted 22+ and 21+ units. At least you were up before the seagulls though!
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      906. Something tells me that they have not upgraded Marvell RAID chip in DS625slim. I would not be surprised if 6 SATA lanes/disks were still connected to the CPU via just two PCIe 2.0 lanes effectively creating a bottleneck of 1000MB/s. Sadly no DS419slim upgrade on the horizon.
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      909. Another drip, drip, drip…. Higher prices for the negligible performance improvements. The NAS market all but stopped 5 years ago. Same memory, same CPUs, same slow NICs on the lower end…
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      910. Still no N100-based 2-4-5-bay solutions for home market? Bonkers. I guess this settles it – will go for a selfbuilt. Only question is if I’ll use my (finally) retiring desktop system based on i7-4790 or I’ll pick up one of those fancy N100-based boards.
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      917. Urgh, i just bought a 923+ a month ago because i was tired of waiting and thought they’d skip 2025 new models. I wish they would make a cheap 2.5Gbe upgrade card for the 923+.
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      918. Thanks for the vid, Rob. Yet again, it seems as though Synology has not listened to it’s customer base. My first Synology was a DS211J and bought 2 more since then. Time to turn my back on them and go with something else to upgrade my Plex server.
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      920. The DS923+ and DS1522+ have both gone up in price by 20-30% down under lately. For Synology to take away 10Gbe seems absolutely bonkers. For photography and even office work file server 10Gbe is essential. 2.5 Gbe doesn’t even facilitate the full read/write speeds of a 4 or 5 bay NAS with spinning rust. With 4 synology HAT3100’s my DS1522+ runs around 600 MB/s via 10Gbe without any NvMe cache. Why bottle neck these devices by giving no way to get data off at the bandwidth that a bunch of spinning rust can facilitate?
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      923. Jeez its a bit disappointing. My old NAS is so overdue for a upgrade but these are not much of a step up in fact in some ways they are worse. My old 4 bay st least still had integrated graphics that works a charm on Plex but is really struggling with modern codecs like AVI.

        Really wish someone will make a NAS using a modern chip that has all the latest codecs supported especially AV1 10bit encode and decode
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      924. The recent moves in software, discontinuing Video Station, etc make me nervous getting a Synology. I’m more likely to buy a UGreen (when they finally get released in the UK) at this point.
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      925. Sounds like Synology have just stopped trying in the home / SMB segment. I won’t be investing in a system using dated parts (but which I would want to run for many years into the future) and run by a company that doesn’t seem to care about what (it appears to me) a lot of customers want. Even taking into account software and price, I was already leaning towards QNAP or Asustor etc., and I would still pick their current gen hardware over the new Synology offerings in a heartbeat. Can’t wait to see what these other vendors offer later this year.
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