New AI Powered NAS from UGREEN for 2025 – The iDX6012 NAS
After making quite a splash with their NASync series of devices in the first half of 2024, it doesn’t look like UGREEN are planning on slowly down its expansion into private server solutions, with the reveal of a new 6-Bay iDX6012 NAS device that they unveiled during IFA 2024. Alongside a keynote speech that covered a lot of their other solutions slated for 2024 (improved power adapters, a Thunderbolt 5 Adapter, among others), they made a small statement towards their existing NAS solutions and roadmap. It was already pretty clear from their approach to the marketing and software development on the UGREEN NASync series that they were clearly planning to expand further into the world of NAS, but many (myself included) were surprised that they had already started revealing their next hardware plans, when their current DXP series had only JUST hit traditional retail on their official sites (after $6Million Dollars raised on Kickstarter) and on Amazon “soon”.
IMPORTANT tl;dr about the UGREEN iDX6011 and iDX6012 NAS:
Here is the list of TL;DR points in bullet format:
- The USP of these devices is that they promise to allow the use of LLM AI tools without the need for an internet connection or an API/connection to third-party LLM platforms such as ChatGPT and Google Gemini.
- This is the second wave of NAS solutions by UGREEN, following a successful Kickstarter campaign in the first half of 2024 with their NASync DXP series.
- The system is expected to launch in Q1 2025.
- No demonstration or software demo was shown. All information about the device comes from the UGREEN team at their stand at the IFA 2024 event in Berlin.
- Local AI Integration: The iDX6012 and iDX6011 NAS systems are designed to enable private, local use of AI tools to assist with tasks like data management, photo recognition, and document analysis, without relying on cloud-based services for processing.
- Enhanced Database Queries: These systems allow users to query extensive databases using natural language, making it easier to extract complex information from large datasets without the need for extensive spreadsheet manipulation or technical expertise.
- No confirmation of regional availability, pricing, whether it will be on kickstarter or traditional retail etc
- AI-Powered Photo & Document Organization: Built-in AI tools offer advanced capabilities such as contextual photo sorting and document search, improving efficiency in managing large media and text file collections through intuitive, language-based queries.
- Data Security Focus: UGREEN emphasizes security by ensuring that AI tools operate locally, keeping sensitive data offline and minimizing the risk of third-party access or data breaches common with cloud-based AI services.
What ARE the UGREEN iDX6012 and iDX6011 NAS?
It is still a little unclear if the iDX6012 NAS is intended as the new hardware refresh of the existing series, or a completely separate line of solutions – I got the impression however that this is the latter – with expansion towards AI solutions, as well as expansions into rackmount solutions already in post-discussion. The iDX6012 is a 6-Bay solution that uses the familiar chassis design of the DXP6600 Pro. UGREEN has been especially tight-lipped about this new system in development. However, they were keen to highlight that the main feature is its ability to deploy a local LLM in conjunction with your data. By “local,” they mean the system is chiefly designed to use AI-assisted tools with your secure data, without relying on web-based LLMs like ChatGPT or Google Gemini.
Why WOULD anyone WANT an AI LLM Service on their NAS?
It’s fair to say that there are mixed feelings about integrating AI services into privately hosted servers, particularly around security concerns. A key driver behind users wanting to move their data away from cloud services (aside from space and subscription limitations) is the desire to avoid exposing their data to external third-party access. Confidential information, if illegally obtained, could compromise the integrity of any individual or organization. Nevertheless, some users are eager to take advantage of LLMs in conjunction with the larger databases they have accumulated over years or decades.
For example, imagine you have a customer database accumulated over 10 years, digitally maintained. This database likely contains information on purchases, customer locations, order frequency, and value, creating a large data footprint of thousands, if not millions, of variables. You could filter this information via traditional fields, but sometimes you’d want to ask more human-like, natural-language questions, such as:
- “Provide me with a list of customers who spent more than $5,000 over two years and who live in America.”
- “How many previous customers ordered the same product more than once in a year, above the value of $150?”
- “Who spends more in a calendar month on computer accessories, men or women?”
While these questions could still be answered creatively with spreadsheets, it would be time-consuming and require a solid understanding of Excel and the relevant variables. An LLM, however, would understand the question in natural language and apply it against the database within the system.
The crucial point here is that UGREEN is promising that users will not need to pay for, nor connect to, third-party LLMs like ChatGPT or Google Gemini in order to benefit from AI tools that enhance data management.
Another great example of AI improvements is in photo recognition, already common in modern NAS systems. Many NAS devices use AI to scan photos and create categorized directories (such as facial or object recognition). Integrated LLM tools in NAS systems could build on this, allowing users to ask contextual questions about their photo collections. For instance:
- “Show me photos of people driving cars on the motorway.”
- “Show me pictures of men wearing ties in the office.”
- “Show me photos of brides and grooms at their wedding.”
The key takeaway here is that users will be able to interact with their data using natural language, rather than restrictive and rigid commands. And most importantly, this will be done without an internet connection—if UGREEN can deliver on this promise.
Additionally, integrating an LLM with text documents will allow users to ask contextual questions that can be answered natively based on the content of their documents. For example, if you have a database of user reports (e.g., school reports, medical records, HR documents), you could ask:
- “Provide a summary of David Kent, including his employment history and time with the company.”
- “Provide a list of clients currently receiving pain relief medication from X pharmaceutical company.”
- “What percentage of currently subscribed users have been with our company for more than six months?”
While analytical methods can be used to find this information in a database, achieving the required details typically requires specific searches. An LLM could streamline this process by accessing and analyzing the data organically.
The challenge, however, is that an LLM requires full access to your existing database to build a reference point and apply its language understanding. This level of access to confidential information is what creates apprehension among users regarding AI integration into private databases. Users of cloud-based LLM services must trust that companies like Google and Microsoft aren’t misusing their data for their own benefit.
Realistically, UGREEN has yet to confirm whether they can provide a 100% local, fully offline LLM-based service for data stored in their NAS systems. They have simply stated that this is the direction they are heading.
I have some doubts about whether they will be able to achieve this, especially considering the ambitious plan to roll this out in Q1 2025. Users who have deployed local LLMs have generally done so with more powerful, GPU-equipped systems to support the resource-intensive requirements. This is why it’s often easier and cheaper to use remote LLM services, where the hard work is done remotely while still accessing user data.
I will reserve full judgment until I see the system in action.
Price, Release, and Availability of the iDX6012 6-Bay NAS and the iDX6011 6-Bay NAS?
UGREEN has remained quiet about whether this system will be launched on Kickstarter, as they did with their previous DXP NAS series. Similarly, while they highlighted that the system is scheduled for early 2025, they did not disclose any pricing for either system.
Regarding availability, the NASync DXP series was only recently made available for traditional retail after its Kickstarter success. Even then, it is only available on their own website and in select regions like Germany and the US. This may be the same strategy UGREEN will follow for the new system. While this wasn’t confirmed at IFA 2024, I suspect it could be the case.
No doubt, we will discuss this system more in 2025 and whether it can achieve its ambitious goals.
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Why are we using 2.5inch Hard Disk Drives at all when M.2 Nvme is so much smaller & faster?
I would love to hear your response.
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If your in UK or Europe, time to look elsewhere – I recently had a chat with somebody at UGREEN, at present all plans to expand into EMEA are on hold, as they’ve got sourcing issues.
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Jackson Brian White Kenneth Walker Robert
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Does this mean current UGREEN NAS DXP users will be left out and won’t have access to the LLM? Don’t abandon your existing NAS users, UGREEN!
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Do you know by any chance if only the New IDX models will get the AI Feature or will there be an update for the DXP? I wanted to order a DXP4800 plus
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Lee Maria Johnson Frank Lee Brian
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If it actually makes data retrieval faster or just uses the AI to better index and help find odd files that are hard to find later, a common type pictures/videos or through masses of text documents.
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Bednar Cove
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Looks smaller so no more PCIe slot on the 6 bay? Hopefully more nvme slots…
The 6800pro is great hardware so far…
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In the midst of current innovations, I think it’s time to reconsider premium DIY options. I’ve been trying to round up the best alternatives to HBS3, AiCore, DSM, QSync, etc.
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I have an AI refrigerator.
It refuses to open because I mentioned how cold it is and hurt it’s feelings.
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I don’t care about AI in my NAS, just want an amazing drive, photos & at least 4k Plex streaming with one conversion.
Also, work with companies like Tailscale to have dive & photos works as well as If I’m connected through tailscale but without tailscale so already integrated.
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I was thinking today if only they could design a tray with a SAS to SATA Adapter so you would be able to use SAS HDDs in their systems. I don’t know how reliable such an adaptor would be.
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Even in China not many people are buying Ugreen nas. It is risky to trust your data on this brand.
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I just want thunderbolt 4 for my you green 6800 Pro
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I might also add that it’s known that UGreen had NAS models in China well before the Kickstarter release models. So, it might be interesting to see some if not one of the Chinese models compared to the requisite US model. Just for giggles. Near as I can tell the design language is very similar (same HDD trays, same magnetic dust filter) but there are differences.
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“AI” is such a meaningless buzzword at this point.
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The sad part is it’s not available on Amazon Germany.
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“Here’s our new product. It does AI!”
“What does that actually mean? What does it actually do?”
“…IDK… marketing just told us to say it did AI.”
This makes me think less of a brand and its products, not more. It’s “VR Ready!!” PCs all over again (which seemed to boil down to “it has an HDMI port”). Completely vacuous unless backed by some actual concrete functionality, and should not be announced until they’re ready to say what that is, if there even is any.
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I jumped on as an early supporter of Ugreen and purchased their 4-bay Plus model. Even cancelled my orders for Terramaster’s 424-Pro and QNAP NAS (forget the model but it’s the one with the option to add PCIe slot that can be used for expansion including adding hardware and software for AI). I was hoping Ugreen’s first NAS models might also get the software (and ability to upgrade the hardware for the models that have PCIe expansion slots) for AI capabilities but by releasing AI specific NAS models makes me wonder if the first gen Ugreen models might be left out from getting any AI capabilities (“thanks early adopters, but sorry to abandon you so soon”)
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Thanks Synology move user forward to other brand by adding more restrictions, hope ugreen can take the chance and grab more market share
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DXP with a CORAL M.2 Accelerator with Dual Edge TPU should do more of the same in Docker and Frigate for NVR and AI today 😉
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Well I for one am very pleased with my UGreen DXP8800 Plus 8 bay NAS (hardware) thus far. A little less so with UGOS Pro but version 1.0.0.1366 does address some shortcomings. So things are improving albeit not as fast as some would like. It’s good to see that UGreen is showing some dedication to their in-house software as well as future hardware hardware offerings . Game on!
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This looks promising. If they become successful and if the price is right I’ll switch from Synology to Ugreen.
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yeah.. make it available in other than 2 countries.. it is 2024 if they havent noticed. Until then 0 support.
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