The Minisforum MS-02 Ultra – The First 48 Hours
The MS-02 Ultra is the latest workstation from Minisforum, and is currently undergoing testing and review here at NASCompares. However, even after just 48 hours, a whole bunch of interesting design choices and unique qwerks to the arcitecture have emerged that I wanted to cover in the meantime before the full review is complete. The MS-02 Ultra essentially trying to recapture the magic and impact of the incredibly popular MS-01 – and it is attempting this by doubling, trippling and (in some cases) quadrupling the base specifications! The Minisforum MS-02 Ultra arrives as a compact workstation that incorporates a 24-core Intel Core Ultra 9 285HX processor, up to 256 GB of ECC DDR5 memory, internal 350 W power delivery, multiple PCIe expansion options, and a network configuration that includes dual 25GbE, 10GbE, and 2.5GbE. After 48 hours of initial testing, several hardware behaviors have emerged regarding thermals, acoustics, lane distribution, storage configuration, and chassis layout. The following sections outline these early observations, supported by confirmed specifications and hands-on inspection. Stay tuned for the full review, but at least for now, let’s discuss the early highlights and low lights!
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| CPU | Intel Core Ultra 9 285HX, 24C/24T, up to 5.5 GHz |
| TDP | 100 W PL1 and 140 W PL2 (without dGPU) |
| Memory | 4x DDR5 SODIMM, up to 256 GB, ECC supported on 285HX |
| Storage | 2x M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 on board, 2x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 or 4.0 x4 on NIC combo card |
| Networking | 2x 25GbE SFP+, 1x 10GbE RJ45, 1x 2.5GbE RJ45 (vPro) |
| Wireless | WiFi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4 |
| PCIe Slots | 1x PCIe 5.0 x16, 1x PCIe 4.0 x16, 1x PCIe 4.0 x4 |
| USB Ports | 2x USB4 v2 Type-C, 1x USB4 Type-C, 3x USB-A 10Gbps |
| Video Output | HDMI 2.1 and USB4 DP Alt Mode |
| Cooling | Six heatpipe radiator with PCM and dual-fan chamber |
| Power | Internal 350 W PSU |
| Dimensions | 221.5 x 225 x 97 mm |
| Weight | 3.45 kg |
Design of the MS-02 Ultra
The internal design of the MS-02 Ultra differs considerably from earlier Minisforum workstation models and moves away from the layout used in the MS-S1 Max. Although the system retains a slide-out internal frame, the mechanism is less streamlined than the earlier S-series implementation because of how densely the components are arranged.
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The interior resembles a compressed micro-tower layout, with the CPU cooling assembly, PSU, PCIe risers, and storage positions layered closely together. A dual-fan ventilation chamber spans the frontal section of the chassis, pulling air through a vented intake and directing it across the primary cooling hardware before forcing it out the rear. This arrangement appears to be a necessary response to the higher thermal output of the Ultra 9 285HX and the inclusion of multiple expansion slots, both of which require more directed airflow than Minisforum’s previous compact workstation designs.
The placement of internal components reflects the limited spatial tolerance of the 4.8-liter enclosure. The internal 350 W PSU occupies a significant section of the lower frame and includes additional power leads intended for low-profile GPU or accelerator cards, something rarely present in machines of this size. The motherboard runs across most of the horizontal section and positions the CPU vapor-chamber cooler toward the middle, while memory slots, NVMe connectors, and the PCIe riser for the combo NIC occupy the remaining pockets of available space.
Because cooling pipes and the ventilation housing sit directly above the CPU-side memory slots, Minisforum added a custom angled heatsink to ensure airflow reaches these modules. This results in a serviceable layout but one that requires more deliberate disassembly, as the compact structure prioritizes component density and thermal guidance over ease of access or open internal spacing.
Early Heat, Noise and Power Use of the MS-02 Ultra
Initial thermal behavior suggests the MS-02 Ultra is managing its compact layout with a cooling strategy built around a dual-fan chamber and a six-heatpipe radiator assisted by phase-change material. During the first setup period, surface temperatures around the chassis varied, with readings near the side ventilation panels and case edges settling around the low-to-mid 40s, while the front intake area measured lower due to the direct airflow path.
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Early internal temperature checks, taken before any sustained workloads were applied, showed values consistent with a system that is heavily packed but actively cooled across multiple zones. These readings align with Minisforum’s stated 5000 RPM maximum fan speed and the intention to maintain a 100 W to 140 W CPU power envelope depending on configuration. However, because these measurements were taken during routine preparation rather than stress testing, they provide only a preliminary indication of how the system will manage long-duration loads.
Noise levels during this early period ranged from the low 30s dBA while performing software installations and background operations, with no significant fluctuations unless brief bursts of activity occurred. This behavior suggests fan control may be tied primarily to BIOS-level thermal triggers rather than granular OS-side control, something that will require further testing.
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Power consumption during light activity remained in the 50 to 60 W range, which is consistent with a workstation-class system running the Ultra 9 285HX while idle or handling moderate foreground tasks. Removing the dual-25GbE combo card or disabling its slot reduced power draw by roughly 10 to 11 W, highlighting the overhead associated with multi-lane NICs and onboard controllers. These early figures provide a baseline for comparison against heavier benchmarks that will be performed in the full review.
The 25GbE, 10GbE and WiFi 7 Network Card in the MS-02 Ultra
The MS-02 Ultra’s networking implementation is centered around a PCIe-based combo card that integrates dual 25GbE SFP+ ports with two additional M.2 NVMe slots. This card is installed in the PCIe 4.0 x16 position rather than the PCIe 5.0 slot, and it includes a dedicated controller with active cooling and heatsinks that cover both the networking and storage components.
Early inspection shows the card draws a notable amount of power, which corresponds with the increased thermal and electrical requirements of Intel’s E810-class 25GbE controllers. Because of this, Minisforum’s inclusion of dedicated airflow and structural reinforcement around the card is necessary within the constrained 4.8-liter chassis. The presence of this dual-purpose add-in card also means the MS-02 Ultra’s total NVMe count depends on whether the system is configured with the 285HX version, as the lower-tier CPUs remove the combo module entirely.
Beyond the 25GbE configuration, the system includes onboard 10GbE and 2.5GbE RJ45 ports, the latter supported by Intel’s i226-LM with vPro capabilities, allowing BIOS-level remote management. The combination of high-speed SFP+, copper-based multi-gigabit ports, and embedded management options positions the system for lab, server, or virtualization roles rather than conventional desktop use.
Wireless capability is supplied via a WiFi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4 module connected through an M.2 E-Key slot, providing high-throughput wireless performance alongside its wired interfaces. Together, these connectivity features expand the system’s potential use cases, particularly for users planning to deploy virtualized environments or bandwidth-intensive tasks such as shared storage testing or multi-system clustering.
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How m.2 Storage on the MS-02 Ultra is Done
The MS-02 Ultra distributes its four NVMe slots across two different locations, with two mounted on the mainboard and two integrated into the dual-25GbE combo card. The pair located on the system board are positioned on the underside, near the memory and CPU assembly, and both are listed as PCIe 4.0 x4 according to Minisforum’s documentation.
Early inspection suggests that one of these may have a PCIe 5.0 lane path available at the hardware level, though software restrictions or lane bifurcation rules may currently limit it to Gen 4 behavior. This is an area that requires further validation using a Gen 5 SSD, as the lane layout on the 285HX platform allows various allocation possibilities depending on how Minisforum assigned bandwidth between CPU, chipset, and expansion slots. These internal slots have modest vertical clearance, meaning SSDs with tall heatsinks cannot be used without removing or replacing the pre-fitted cooling structures.
The remaining two NVMe slots reside on the network combo card alongside the 25GbE controllers. These operate under different bandwidth rules depending on SSD capacity: drives up to 4 TB operate at PCIe 4.0 x4, while larger 8 TB models shift down to PCIe 3.0 x4. This behavior appears to be related to the card’s onboard controller and how its internal bifurcation splits resources between the NIC and storage lanes.
Physical space is also restricted on the card, requiring low-profile SSDs in certain positions to avoid obstruction of the cooling shroud and airflow channel. Minisforum includes an additional heatsink in the package for users installing their own drives, but using SSDs with taller factory heatsinks may be impractical. Altogether, storage layout on the MS-02 Ultra is functional and high-capacity, but with lane behaviors and physical constraints that require attention during configuration.
Memory on the MS-02 Ultra
The MS-02 Ultra provides four DDR5 SODIMM slots, but their distribution within the chassis is unconventional due to the system’s compact thermal layout. Two slots sit on the mainboard near the CPU-side M.2 positions, placed directly in the airflow path of the vapor-chamber cooler and its dual-fan assembly. Because of this, Minisforum has added a custom angled heatsink that draws air from the primary cooling channel across the modules and nearby components.
This arrangement is intended to compensate for the thermal density around the CPU area, where heat buildup would otherwise be more likely. These two slots support both ECC and non-ECC memory, though ECC functionality is active only on the 285HX model. Their placement suggests Minisforum prioritized consistent airflow over ease of access, making upgrades possible but less straightforward than on more open workstation layouts.
The remaining pair of SODIMM slots is located on the opposite side of the board, positioned away from the CPU cooling assembly and closer to the chassis frame. These modules have more breathing room but rely on passive airflow from the system’s general ventilation rather than a focused cooling path. All four slots support speeds up to 4800 MHz, with XMP profiles unavailable due to Minisforum’s implementation and Intel’s platform limitations.
During early testing, memory installation worked as expected, though the arrangement of these slots means users planning maximum 256 GB configurations will need to work within the physical constraints of the layout. Overall, the memory design reflects a tradeoff between supporting high-capacity ECC configurations and fitting the necessary cooling infrastructure into a small volume.
PCIe Card Support on the MS-02 Ultra
The MS-02 Ultra incorporates three PCIe slots arranged to maximize flexibility within its compact chassis: a PCIe 5.0 x16 slot, a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot, and a PCIe 4.0 x4 slot. The PCIe 5.0 slot is left unoccupied by default, allowing users to install a low-profile GPU or accelerator card that fits within the airflow and power constraints of the 350 W internal PSU.
Minisforum includes auxiliary power cables within the system, which is uncommon for small-form-factor workstations and indicates that the chassis is intended to support cards that require supplemental power. Because of the chassis height and width, only dual-slot, low-profile cards with modest cooling requirements are viable, but this still introduces options for compute or media workloads that benefit from hardware acceleration.
The PCIe 4.0 x16 slot is occupied in the 285HX configuration by the dual-25GbE plus dual-M.2 combo card, which introduces additional thermal and power considerations. This leaves the PCIe 4.0 x4 slot available for further expansion, provided the card used meets the system’s spatial limitations. The layout demonstrates Minisforum’s approach to balancing lane allocation between CPU, storage, and networking, especially given the 24 available PCIe lanes on the Ultra 9 platform.
Although the physical presence of three slots in such a compact volume is unusual, the arrangement is functional, and power delivery from the internal PSU supports moderate add-in card configurations. Users will need to consider airflow direction, card length, and slot occupation carefully to avoid restricting internal ventilation.
Conclusion and Verdict on the Minisforum MS-02 Ultra (So Far…)
The MS-02 Ultra presents a compact workstation design that integrates a high-core-count CPU, multiple NVMe storage options, high-speed networking, and an internal PSU within a tightly arranged chassis. Early testing indicates that the system’s thermal behavior, noise profile, and power draw are consistent with its component density, though the long-term performance of its cooling strategy requires extended benchmarking before reaching definitive conclusions. The design choices, such as the split placement of memory slots, the use of a large dual-fan cooling chamber, and the reliance on a densely packed internal layout, all reflect Minisforum’s effort to fit workstation-grade hardware into a constrained volume.
In terms of features, the dual-25GbE plus dual-M.2 combo card remains the most distinctive element, expanding the system’s potential for virtualized environments, NAS roles, and bandwidth-heavy workflows. PCIe allocation, memory configuration, and storage behavior introduce several considerations for users planning upgrades or specialized deployments. While these early observations indicate a capable and flexible platform, further testing is necessary to determine sustained thermal performance, PCIe stability under load, and real-world throughput of the networking and storage subsystems. The forthcoming full review will provide those extended results, but for now, the system presents a feature-rich design with several areas that merit deeper evaluation.
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*Update* The Minisforum MS-02 Ultra is now in the studio. Here are the First Impressions in the first 48 Hours on YouTube – https://youtu.be/h9LubP_MSZ8 and here on NASCompares – https://nascompares.com/guide/minisforum-ms-02-ultra-early-impressions-quick-review/
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Cool! waiting for unpacking, benchmarks, use cases
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Ordered one this morning. Core Ultra 9 285HX. Barebones.
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15mm U2.3 support? (at least 3)
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Time 9:32 for short runs Direct Attached Copper ( DAC) can be used instead of Fiber. Less cost. DAC cables have a twinax copper cable with fixed connectors, like SFP+ or QSFP+, on each end that directly plug into a device’s port. These cables don’t use separate transceivers, which eliminates the cost and power consumption associated with them. Limited to short-range connections (typically under 15 meters, depending on the data rate). Use cases Connecting switches to servers within the same rack. Linking adjacent racks in a data center. Data center server and storage connections ( DAC in the Rack )
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I wonder what the maximum about of RAM will be. I would love to have two or three of those for a VM cluster.
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Is there an AMD equivalent coming?
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This is literally the mini pc I have been waiting for from them they are going to kill the mini pc market with this. Yes you can game but let’s face it there are like no other mini pcs that do ecc never mind the 25g networking. Considering the competition coming up from Aoostar and some others coming out of the wood work I would keep this priced as low as possible and just saturate the market. Even with the networking and IO Minisform keeps getting dinged on customer support and warranty stuff. If they start making mini pcs that just cost as much as a a Lenovo p3 or dell or hp they’ll lose since those OEMs come with proven support and warranty. If they can keep this within $200 to $300 of the current ms-a2 but order a ton of them from the supplier they will kill Levovo, Dell, and HP period. I mean come on you know any home labber or smb is going to get 3 of these at a time since they’re perfect for proxmox HA clusters.
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Well frick… that’s a pretty slick chassis. I would love love love to see this continue with the MS-A1 refresh but now I’m just being picky.
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I don’t understand why go with intel for a form factor like this, you give expandibility over pci-e and than you can’t use it due to pcie lanes shortage…It makes no sense, for me this machine could be very interesting but not if it won’t run the gpu at 8x ofc
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This right here is where minisforum will take the mini pc market. Nothing to do with performance it’s the IO and the ecc ram with 4 slots. If I need SMB servers why the hell would I buy anything but a cluster of these, unless there is some specific edge case? As long as they keep the price low enough they’ll take over the market so fast just on this one version. NO other mini pc save maybe 5 have ecc out of those I can’t think of 1 other with 4 dims unless your talking an asrock deskmeet or something.
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Only 350 Watt psu with a processor that can draw as much and possibly more then 250 W. Fully kit this thing out and you’ll barely have any psu overhead left at full load even without a discreet gpu.
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The key question: how much ECC RAM can it pack into the four slots max?
RAM is the name of the game for local AI.
Together with an TB drive extension bay for like 8 HDD, and a PCIE-NVMe expansion card, it could become a serious storage server with hopefully ample CPU to run local LLMs
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Weren’t they supposed to release an mATX motherboard?
285HX with 4800MHz sodimms and a pcie slot with half the bandwidth doesn’t do it for me
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SFP28 is completely downwards compatible with SFP+, so you can use 10gbe simply.
Its amazing that they use an intel e810 card, since this one is very powerefficient and cool compared to what intel had earlier.
Otherwise, this minipc offers everything a heart could wish, but also at the same time in the Local AI hosting time, they should have been made a slot for a RTX6000 96gb Max-Q 🙂
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Just looking at the specs there make me happy I have 3x ms-01 running as a proxmox cluster instead.
The ms-02 has serious pcie lane problems. It only has 24 pcie lanes. When you use all 4 nvmes, that is already 16 lanes. That leaves only 8 for the 3 pcie slots, which means only primary at x8 or the 2 16x slots at x4 with the physical x4 disabled.
The 2x 25GBE is a pcie card taking lanes away from the few you got. Then there is the useless Intel core ultra CPU. I rather have my 12th gen CPU or even better a AMD one.
Then there is the size increase, I hope 2 of them fit next to each other in 2U rack space. The ms-01 is sadly slightly too large for 1U.
Also the estimated price is way way way too high. The ms-02 has less value to me then a ms-01 but will cost more.
A ms-01 with a AMD CPU and with ms-01 connectivity would be great. All product releases after the ms-01 have been not very interesting to me. I even use one of my ms-01 as a NAS with a external SAS HBA passed through to a TrueNAS VM, so the Minisforum NAS is also not interesting.
A way to split the iGPU to several vGPUs would be a nice feature but sadly no mention of that.
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Thank you for posting. I have been putting thought into installing single port 25GbE adapters in some key machines with a 25GbE switch. Mellanox has a single port 25GbE adapter that uses PCIe3.0x8 so it would work in many systems, even older ones. I am still trying to figure out the most affordable, quiet, low watt homelab switch setup but there are a few options.
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I’m using the MS-01 to provide some services for small businesses. This will definitely be added as an additional option when I look at a businesses needs.
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What the heck are people using such machines at home for? I’m curious. I used to write software for cloud infrastructure companies in Silicon Valley and none of my colleagues had such powerful machines at home. We just all had MacBook pros, including the folks on the azure software teams at Microsoft
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Hypervisor – can’t wait to grab one
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256gb memory that can be used with internal gpu? LLMs here we come! ????????. 25g networking? The heck cluster of these…..
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You’ll need an SFP+ adapter (in both ends) and the fiber cables that go with it. 2:15
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Hey Robby nice video thanks! – Feedback: Cant really say im yet invested, its interesting to hear that they have this, but the 25GbE needs to go for a gpu, which is kinda weird and also MF has a history of saying PCIe 4.0 x16 and then beeing x4 really, i will wait for reviews and facts. Ive had to much hopes and dreams for MF, i stopped doing that now. ????????????Also: If they can advertised 2 GPU slots they will, even if both of them are 1 slot, but nobody knows ????♂ – Have a good trip and please get us MANY FACTS ❤
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A shame that Minisforum is an absolute trash company.
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this would make a kick ass plex server i wish they made a smaller cpu version with like 245h or 265h version so it would be cheaper and fit still very nicely for a plex server
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The big appeal of the ms-01 was support for m.2 22110 drives. This appears to only support 2280 which reduces its value significantly. Not useful as a home server. Especially for the HA casss you mention.
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I like the idea of MotD, but I’m kinda over the SFF. There’s a great feature set here, but for a system like this, I’d rather have space to add a full size GPU. It feels like there’s a disconnect with the bleeding edge features and the space limitation of only being able to fit a low profile dual card slot inside.
Minisforum, are you listening? Make a version of this as an M-ATX motherboard, the case, and PSU are of marginal utility.
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And I only JUST finished setting up a MS-A2! But you know what, not really missing out too much as it should still handle everything I through at it with the 2000e ADA graphics card I added to it. Although those 25Gb ports look amazing and would have gone great with my new 25Gb switch… But until I get internet above 10Gbit, I guess I can wait to upgrade, again!
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Desktop to “MIni” PCs is the nowadays equivalent of horse drawn vacuum carts to a Dyson! The price still sucks though!
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My god, that timeline looks like a Morse code plea for help which you desperately need. An 11 minute video that could have easily been half that length. You babble and babble and babble so much. You try to cover everything and then give your opinion about everything and more. Worse yet you constantly repeat yourself in some way or another. Your channel would easily be three plus times the size by now if you would just learn how to present the most important facts and summarize the basics. It’s like you think your viewers will need training wheels for the rest of their F’n lives. They absolutely do not!
Youtubers should learn how to consolidate information and summarize. Stop wasting people’s time ffs.
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Soooo can I used this as a beefy NAS? Cuz I’m not hip at all to workstations
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I would love to see the scenario where this device would be used and 10Gbe is a bottleneck.
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My god, that timeline looks like a Morse code plea for help which you need. An 11 minute video that could have easily been less than half that length. You babble and babble and babble so much. You try to cover everything and then give your opinion about everything and more. Your channel would easily be three plus times the size by now if you would just learn how to present the most important facts and summarize the basics. It’s like you think your viewers will need training wheels for the rest of their F’n lives. They absolutely do not!
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It will be my next (fantasy) purchase.
I’ll use it with my (fantasy) petabyte SSD NAS and my (fantasy) 100″ OLED display. ????
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It’s the mobile variant Intel Core Ultra 9 285HX that has a TDP of “only” 55 Watts
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So the big gotcha I’m worried about is this Ultra 9 only supports 24 pcie lanes… and they’ve got 36 just in slots, 16 more in nvme, plus networking and usb4.whatever. So wtf is going on.
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I think you need to go and take a cold shower. Hope you enjoy China.
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It is nice as a compact system, but the MS-S1 (strix halo) offers another level – that fast 8000Mhz ram.
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you are showing 285K with 125w base tdp (Max 250W). The MS-02 has a 285HX with 55w base TDP (160W max).
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Awesome video man, can’t wait to see more ! Have fun traveling !
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Things are getting crazy now , just watch 4 x Minisforum MS-S1 MAX.s running a cluster running a 400 GB Deepseek 671 billion Q4 model .
The Minisforum MS-S1 MAX has a Pci-4×4 , which be nice for a fast network card ? , If I could afford a switch for it .
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Better than the ms-s1 in my opinion, here you can upgrade the memory not to mention the space for a two slot GPU with power connectors and with 4xM.2 SSD bays it can even play the role of a mini flash nas
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Not an interesting machine, its painfully cramped. I would have preferred a system with an external PSU and a dual slot capability for the GPU, while keeping other ports open.
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as i understand, the pcie 5×16 is full 16 lanes. because this is normally for the gpu and Intels cpu cant split these 16 lanes. so you can only connect 1 single device there. lets see what the price will be.
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just looked closely at the specs, and it seems that:
1. Dual 25GBE will be an optional card
2. This card will be PCIe 4 by X4, which means – full transmit/receive in 25GBE will probably choke your machine (most of the cards are PCie 4 by X8)
3. PCIe 5.0 X16 – slot, not electric, so it will probably be PCIe 5 by X4 (remember – you got only 24 lanes)
All in all, cute, but you can take current gen Minisforum with Ryzen or Intel (which have PCIe card support), and stick a dual 25GBE card if you want to, and you’ll save tons of money
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Only 24 lanes so it remains to be seen what the split will be, when they’re trying to feed 4x NVMe drives too.
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Can’t wait for the AMD version. MS-A2 Ultra let’s go!
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Ah just got my 10GbE switch. ????
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This time, can you throw in a travel vlog? ????
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Been running 25GbE for a couple of years now, using a UniFi Pro Aggregation switch and Mellanox ConnectX-4 cards in two Synology RackStations and two Dell PowerEdge servers. Every home lab needs 25GbE for storage of VMs. Not any more expensive than 10bE in many cases.
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I wonder if the likes of HP, Dell and Lenovo see this as being competition for their lower end server systems. Consider a deployment of a couple of these behind a switch something like the Mikrotik CRS510-8XS-2XQ-IN which offers 100Gb switching, and you’ll be hard pressed to find something similar on offer from the big players.
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Ehh, I just got three of the MS-A2 9955HX’s, Ill pass on these. Not a fan of the current Intel CPU’s right now with the hybrid cores still. I knew something was gonna be coming out soon as I got my MS-A2’s but man I wish they made an AMD version of this. They always make the good layouts with Intel first for some reason.
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Да как-же так
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cannot wait to get my hands on this beast
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