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this is currently £299 on Amazon UK
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For what it’s worth, the TerraMaster D8 Hybrid is on sale on Amazon for 20% off at the moment, at least in Australia. That’s down from AUD$499 to AUD$399. Estimated shipping is a fortnight away.
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It was ALMOSTthe perfect DAS. Too bad it doesn’t manage RAID5 and beyond, this is truely a missed opportunity.
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Appreciate the review. To answer the initial question, I think I fit the bill of a target demographic, lol. So, I bought a 4-bay NAS that should get me by for a while, but I immediately started considering how I might expand the system. Specifically, I just watched a video last night (Techno Tim) about how to improve the reliability and performance of TrueNAS. One point he made was to have NVMe SSDs in a mirrored vdev for the L2ARC, and another mirrored vdev for the SLOG, so as to reduce pressure on the ZPool. Watched a separate video on Hardware Haven where he reviewed the Aoostar WTR Pro (the NAS I ordered as a result of his video), and he demonstrated how you could use the M.2 E-key to boot from, and add 2 x NVMe SSDs for caching. This would only give me a single SSD per task, and Techno Tim was emphatic in saying RAID 1 fault tolerance is highly recommended for the SLOG.
So, what’s a guy to do? Well, enter this DAS solution. 4 x NVMe SSD slots, so 2 mirrored vdevs, one each for SLOG and L2ARC. And then an additional 4 x 3.5″ HDDs worth of storage. Seems like a perfect fit for upgrading a TrueNAS ZFS instance without having to fully invest in migrating to a new box. Then again, in the short term, I’m probably going to go the route of fully-upgrading the WTR Pro, and see about using the single SSD each for L2ARC and SLOG
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$400 in Canada. They said it’s very plastic. I am interested as I don’t want a NAS.
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199USD? In Scandinavia, it sells for 1000 USD.
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Kickstarter, if you’re aware of the product – and are happy with the feature set and non-reviewed status – then there is no issue joining in primarily since you’ll be getting a significant discount – it’s an extra £/$100 today. As for this product, it’s a most excellent spicy meatball for many folks out there…obviously.
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Only for $199. 299 is way too expensive.
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The week point of this device is its USB commection. Truenas warn you to create a RAID over USB and I had also bad experience to do so ????
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Thank you for your video and the work you are doing on your channel.
Every time I think that the product I’m looking for is out, I’m in some ways disappointed…
I’m looking for a fast RAID 5 capable DAS Thunderbolt 3 (or more) or USB4 with 4 to 6 bays…
I miss my old Drobo ????
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Great questions, great video!
Thanks mate!
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For me, I was looking for a more elegant solution for my Plex media.
Having 3 external drives taking up precious IO on my Mini PC was becoming unacceptable to me.
My current set up is a 4tb SSD inside of the computer, 1 NVME drive for 4K movies, and a 12tb HDD with a 250mb cache for everything else.
This device was perfect for my needs.
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Damn it. Just bought a D4. Though why do you need NVME over USB?
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I just have a hard time paying $300 for something with a plastic case
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1. Sounds like an advertisement
2. for couple more dollars for the brand they could of used USB 20Gbps chip, or for couple dollars more USB4 controller and than its a heaven but single 10gbps link? ROFL i usually dont use these for single NVMe device and go for the USB 20Gbps models, twice the speed
So there is no benefit from going raid on the NVMe, youll get the same speed as 4 good HDDs [helium HDDs do 260 to 280MB/s sequential speeds, x4 and thats over 1gb]
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Okay, been looking at the Terramasters on Amazon and no matter what they all seem to have over 10% in bad reviews, |I have many a external drive and want something reliable and even the two main ones have their bad bits as well as being OTT cost wise for just a bunch of disk storage. it’s a minefield to a degree.
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i am new to nas. want to setup a budget nas. i wonder if zimaboard + d8 hybrid will be a good setup?
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I have a ROG XG Mobile dock with a D5 attached for when I put my flow 13 on the desk so I can have my steam library sitting ready. I only have a 3.1 Gen 2 USB port available so not having anything faster wasn’t an issue for me.
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This is a great review. I ordered this as an expansion for my two bay terramaster NAS. And it makes me feel better knowing I’m not really going to want to buy the fastest drives available since there is that bottleneck. So a budget case makes me buy budget drives. And I’m really going to be very happy with 900 mb/s read and write. I’m planning to basically make those first two drive bays mirror my NAS to give me an extra backup since my NAS is the only place all of my data is stored. Then I’ll use the m.2 nvme drives as a hot array for editing 4K video. I’m saying goodbye to working directly off my Mac! That said, I’m wondering what drives you recommend I get so I can get the max read and write this thing is capable of without spending more than is necessary? What drives will be optimal in this case to keep cost down but take advantage of the most performance? Thanks
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Can the 4 3.5″ drives be set up in software RAID0? If so what’s the best software to use on Windows? And can it then be connected to different computers, e.g. desktop and laptop?
I’m asking because in my use case, it would be nice to be able to purchase 2 of these, populate with 2 x 18TB Seagate IronWolf Pro drives each, then set them up in RAID0 and cloning from one to the other as a local backup. It would work with the included hardware RAID onboard for now, but thinking of future proofing it’d be good to be able to utilise the additional 2 3.5″ inch bays to extend for future requirements to add in additional 18TB drives as required and then expand the RAID0 (even if having to reformat, as would then be able to clone everything back from the other enclosure once set up). The additional NVMe drives would then be possible expansions too, just for pure capacity if needed, rather than any RAID expectation.
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there are alternatives to extend a nas (unraid /truenas ) but getting better performance.. (probable is avoiding the usb-c and use a ls mini sas? )
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Love your videos for all the helpful information. I started watching your videos when I was considering the storaxa(?) NAS on Kickstarter and ended up NOT backing it thanks to the useful information shared in your videos. Also appreciated all the information regarding the recent UGreen NAS, especially the collaboration with Logan (TwoGuysTech) and others regarding the UGreen NAS.
I have also seen your reviews about the recently announced Terramaster F4-424 Pro NAS. I understand Terramaster’s TOS lags behind the industry leaders but from your video regarding TOS 6, I understand they might be catching up.
I wonder how well this D8 Hybrid might work with the newer Terramaster F4-424 Pro NAS with TOS 6 – especially if there might be any extra features in TOS 6 for Terramaster branded DAS such as the D8 hybrid? Similarly, wonder how the D8 Hybrid might work with other (non-Terramaster) NAS devices? Any chance you might be working on videos for either of these scenarios?
Thanks as always and keep up the great work ????
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Hi. Yes interesting thing. So it is possible to setup raid in the H8 from a NAS! Is this hardware raid still from the NAS?
Utilising the (hardware/software?) raid in the H8 in the first two bays? Also putting the other single drives in some sort of raid – would this be software raid?
Thanks..
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I have the terramaster d5-300c with first 2 bays that you can select jbod or raid, if you select jbod it fails after a week and dont detect any drives, due to that i wouldnt trust this and use anything but raid
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what if your running it from a 2 bay F2-424.. will the 2 bay amazingly be able to supply raid 5,6,10?
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????… hehe
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I use a similar device for Plex. I don’t need RAID for Plex since I have never had any issues with my JBOD setup. Since RAID is not a backup I just prefer to have a simple set of disks with my media files. If I lose a drive I will just re-build my library. Also this device would be nice because the NVME drives could be used for downloads and Plex cache/transcoding disks. So this could be plugged into and old Dell OptiPlex and would be a great upgrade for Plex.
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USB HDD/SSD boxes are ALWAYS problematic for me. I run a Mac mini as my NAS and when using USB enclosures I always have disks randomly disconnecting on me. I’ve had enough so I went Thunderbolt. 150% more expensive, 100% less headaches.
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USB4, 4 SSD slots, 2 HDD trays. That is the magic combination for something like this.
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Yea I am in the small multiple data pools in one box group
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is this good for someone simply using it with a 2012 mac mini w/16gb ram, to play their tv & movie libraries with plex?
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Missed one use case. Data hoarders who have a bunch of old smaller hard drives and SSDs lying around that are too small to fit in current NAS.
For $199, it means you can make use of all your old storage and also not need it on 24/7 with primary NAS.
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i like JBODs for the same reason i like unraid; if the pool fails and data is lost, it only loses the data on the dead drive, every other drive’s data is fully intact and retreivable. also makes it possible to use the hot swap bays as truly hot swap bays, effectively treating hard drives as massive usb keys for moving huge files around faster than any network could ever do it.
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Hi there, sorry for posting this question here since it’s not about the Terramaster but have you done an idiots guide to setting up your own NAS. Im a photographer wanting to save some dosh and build my own rather then buying a synology and I was hoping you have a noob guide but I could not find one in your videos collection. And btw I really appreciate you videos, it has saved me from a few very impulse purchases that sounded to good to be true.
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i’m surprised is already at 200k on kickstarter
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Drop an Beelink EQ12 MiniPC on top of that thing and you have a powerful NAS.
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so, this is a fantastic backup box for truenas, at least my build 4x16hd+4x500ssd, i just wonder how Qnap will see it, as a jbod box? please look into that, ill by 2, and have 2 offsite backups
or how it fairs with one of those new microcomputer boxes, or zema(sp?) board
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This is great for video game emulation!
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I’m a photographer and have backed the Kickstarter (€199 is an excellent price to performance). My main pc is a minisforum um790 pro with 64gb of ddr5 and I have a lot of external drives attached via USB4 and USB3.2 GEN2. I intend to house 4 hdds and 2 1TB NVME drives in the DAS. I’ll keep a 1TB system drive and a 2 TB work drive (both NVME ) in my PC while attaching 2 further ‘hot’ photo drives (2 * 2TB NVME) attached to the 2 USB 4 connections. I have a docking station (USB3.2) for other peripherals.
I think the logic is sound but if you spot any serious flaws please let me know… Oh I have a 14TB hdd attached to my router which holds backups of the important data from the other disks and additional online storage of my ‘best’ photographs. This is my hobby, not my profession
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The shipping is outrageous
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I have the d5-300c which is the older brother of this I guess. I have created arrays on the T6-423 externally once built work using just JBOD mode. however power off the D5-300c or reboot the NAS and the config is gone. Is it the same with this?
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Since it has a JBOD port, I’ll strongly consider getting two of them to expand a cluster of two Dell VEP4600 VM hosts – they only have two internal SSD slots (M.2/NGFF SATA). So each cluster node would be connected to one Terramaster. Cost pretty much nothing compared to the base system and you don’t _have_ to use multiple bays, you can just increment once you have a reason to. Yes, performance will be limited, but look at me caring. Not to mention that what perf you get is much more dependent on the type of SSD you get (i.e. Micron 7450 MAX instead of a Samsung Pro model – only one of those two will be performing well for small IOs. You’d pretty much need 4 top of the line enterprise M.2 SSD or Optanes to even max out the USB interface on 4k writes)
Would be awesome if they notice the market opportunity and make one with two power supplies (i.e. an external one like on mikrotik)
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6:33 You may need an avalanche hazard sign. ????
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went with qnap tr-004 for das. no raid, no nas here, just a htpc with fractals big node that has 9 drives (10th impossible to install due to sata controller being right above the space for 10th drive). so, running the qnap in das mode, all great, drives nice and comfy and cool, software is rudimentary in das mode, but does display smart data. mind you, now i have 4 red plus drives which will be eventually replaced with 16tb red pro drives (since those are only 70$ more expensive then 12tb red plus drives – 4tb and 2yrs of warranty for 70$ is a nobrainer imo). so, those will run hotter, but i dont expect much more than these which are around 30c. true, they mostly sit idle, lol, since all my drives are just storage for htpc media. 91tb all filled in the big node. need. more. space. more. more. more! lol. cheers.
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JBOD for a Proxmox server, that’s what I need most.
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I would attach it to a cheap, low power mini-PC, with one or more 2Gbps ethernet ports, share out the SSDs as NAS and then use the HDDs to take frequent backup snapshots that could be periodically swapped out for offsite storage.
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This is for people who has slim laptop with one or two USB ports.
You get easily a lot of external storage space and only wastefull one of your precioous USB ports to have it.
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I’ve reconsidered my position on the Tarramaster H8 Hybrid. If the NAS OS can manage the RAID array then the lack of hardware RAID 5 is far less perplexing. They could eat Synology’s lunch when it comes to expansion units if it can function that way in DSM7. Same for QNAP, Asustore and so on.
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As a Qnap TR004 user i would have been keen to look at this unit if it had the hardware RAID onboard.
The Qnap does (and is price comparable) but only 5gb/s USB and no NVME.
My use case is as a photographer for photo storage (not generally live edited from but some decent performance to go through libraries etc is nice).
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Apple has had Thunderbolt 40gbit since 2016. USB and manufactures have really been hindering performance out of serious laziness for almost a decade. 10gbit should be what 5gbit USB is right now. It should be for the cheapest garbage USB sticks and cell phones. It’s just not enough people are complaining to them to be forced to want to do something. Every motherboard and computer should have at least 1 20gbit USB port and USB4 should be an almost certainty when you’re not going budget build. The fact that everything around USB has been evolving at warped speed should have pressured manufactures to implement faster ports. This has just been terrible for consumers.
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I think the D8 sounds very interesting, because I think RAID is a liability that I don’t want to pay extra for (I prefer no RAID at all). Instead, I just want to store most of my hot-access data to SSD’s, which have better file integrity compared to HDD as long as they are plugged it and receiving power, store some of my warm-access data to more affordable HDD, and then tell my OS to do a nightly backup of those two data pools to a third HDD data pool. I think that’s exactly what the D8 offer. I don’t need RAID, because if I run integrity check and one of the files in my hot-access or warm-access data pools got corrupted, then I can just restore them from the backup data pool. All I have to do is run an system-wide integrity check overnight once a week, and save myself the troubles with RAID.
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This is a grift product from Terramaster capitalizing on people’s crowdfunding FOMO. At best, it’s a place to utilize old and unused drives. Everyone should avoid this.
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I have way too much prior experience with USB attached storage. Not interested.
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For me it was perfect and then fell with no network card. It is not a NAS in my opinion, its a glorified usb external hardrive. You can buy caddys that do the exact same job for 40 bucks. They wont run any applications, but they will use mutiple drives of different types. They blow the expansion arguement out of the water for me. Why have a processor when its running into another NAS that will more than likely do it already.
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Still don’t think that just short of 1gb/s systained performace is great. maybe if it had a TB4 interface you could get what little over 4gb/s. Its much like the NAS systems based on NVME drives, very few home or SOHO users a have multi 10gb LAN system to support what NVME drives is capable of. in most cases people are limited to maybe a 2.5gbit lan a spinner based system is more than good enough unless you absolutely have to be able to stream high quality 4k or 8k videos. With a TB4 connection it would be a nice little box for especially Mac users where the max is what 4tb internal SSD ?
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I am in Camp 7: walking by to look for a real NAS (with the S of Storage and not the E of Editting…) Will certainly not by a kickstarter thing.
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In my opinion it is nice unit as a storage attachment for a Tiny/Mini/Micro low power Unraid, TrueNAS or Proxmox server ????
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No! Not another kickstarter. TerraMaster is not new to the NAS market to go for crowdfunding
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