UGREEN NASync DXP4800 PLUS Review (Pre-Release)
With many newcomers stepping into the network-attached storage arena, aiming to compete with established giants like Synology and QNAP, UGREEN’s entry is one of the most confident I’ve seen to date. UGREEN, a brand that has existed for quite some time in the computer accessories arena, seems to have a head start over other brands trying to enter the private consumer cloud and entry-level business market. The NASync series, also known as the DXP series, features an unusually large number of SKUs at launch, offering seven different configurations of storage capacity, internal hardware, and external connectivity. In a somewhat unconventional move, the brand has opted to use the crowdfunding site Kickstarter to launch its new product range (Launching on 26th March HERE). Although crowdfunding for NAS solutions was once rare, by 2024, several mid to high-profile crowdfunded NAS solutions have emerged with varying degrees of success. Predominantly East Asian-based brands often utilize Kickstarter to introduce their products to a Western audience, and UGREEN is doubling down on this strategy. Today, we’re examining the DXP4800 Plus, a 4-bay prosumer solution aiming to change expectations for server value. It boasts high-demand features like a powerful Intel CPU, DDR5 memory, Gen SSD storage, 10GbE, and flexible OS usage. There’s a lot to like here, but is this brand’s first foray into NAS storage worth your investment? And should Synology and QNAP be concerned?
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Important – The UGREEN DXP4800 Plus NAS is still in the early stages of crowdfunding. The unit provided for review by UGREEN might not represent the finished product if/when crowdfunding is concluded and eventual fulfillment begins. UGREEN is an already long-established and trusted brand, but nevertheless, it is important to keep in mind that this is still a product that is initially being made available via crowdfunding and therefore an element of additional care is always advised, compared with a comparable product purchased via traditional retail outlets.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Quick Conclusion
BOTTOM LINE – The UGREEN NASYnc DXP4800 Plus does not feel ‘finished’ yet and still needs more time in the over, but UGREEN have been very clear with me that this product is not intended for release and fulfilment till summer 2024 and improvements, optimization and product completion is still in progress. Judging the UGREEN NAS systems, when what we have is a pre-release and pre-crowdfunding sample, was always going to be tough. The DXP4800 PLUS is a very well put-together NAS solution, arriving with a fantastic launching price point (arguably even at its RRP for the hardware on offer). UGREEN has clearly made efforts here to carve out their own style, adding their own aesthetic to the traditional 4-bay server box design that plagues NAS boxes at this scale. Equally, although they are not the first brand to consider Kickstarter/Crowdfunding for launching a new product in the NAS/personal-cloud sector, this is easily one of the most confident entries I have seen yet. The fact that this system arrives on the market primarily as a crowdfunded solution (though almost certainly, if successful, will roll out at traditional retail) is definitely going to give users some pause for thought. Equally, the UGREEN NAS software, still in beta at the time of writing, although very responsive and nailing down the basics, still feels like it needs more work to compete with the bigger boys at Synology and QNAP. Hardware architecture, scalability, and performance are all pretty impressive, though the performance of the Gen 4×4 M.2 NVMe slots didn’t seem to hit the numbers I was expecting. Perhaps a question of PCIe bottlenecking internally, or a need for further tweaking and optimization as the system continues development. Bottom line, with expected software updates to roll out closer to launch and fulfillment, such as an expanded App center and mobile client, the UGREEN DXP4800 Plus is definitely a device worth keeping an eye on in the growing Turnkey and semi-DIY NAS market. As an alternative to public cloud services, this is a no-brainer and worth the entry price point. As an alternative to established Turnkey NAS Solutions, we will hold off judgment till it is publicly released.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Presentation
You really do have to hand it to UGREEN. The presentation of the DXP4800 Plus is genuinely top-tier. This brand’s experience in computer accessories has clearly influenced the presentation of their NAS system, opting for glossy retail packaging that boldly showcases the system’s capabilities over a standard dull brown box.
Inside the shiny box is a well-organized shipping container, with the system secured by rigid foam and an accessory kit containing everything needed to get started. As previously mentioned, retail packaging and device protection during transit are often overlooked by brands, risking damage. Despite being largely unpopulated, except for an internal 2242 SSD for the OS, minimizing the risk of damage, the extra effort on protection is appreciated.
The DXP4800 Plus includes nearly everything needed for setup, aside from hard drives. Given the early stage of the system’s crowdfunding campaign, additional storage options may later become available. The included kit, while basic, ensures users new to hosting their own servers have everything required.
It’s the attention to detail that impresses – from M.2 NVMe heat pads of notable quality and thickness for thermal dissipation, to the included Cat 7 network cables with high-quality gold/copper ends, differentiating them from standard cables.
Even the instruction manual, a rarity as most NAS brands now direct users online, stands out with its glossy presentation and offers more than basic setup guidance.
However, the choice of an external power supply (PSU) was unexpected, given UGREEN’s reputation for high-quality power adapters and cables. While not a deal-breaker, it’s curious to see a non-branded external PSU used, especially when the DXP480t model reviewed elsewhere came with a branded UGREEN PSU. This inconsistency in their approach to PSUs is puzzling.
Overall, the presentation of the DXP4800 Plus from UGREEN, a newcomer to the NAS market intending to launch via Kickstarter, is exceptionally well done. Despite some accessory quality inconsistencies, the overall package is commendable for a pre-release sample. Now, let’s proceed to discuss the system’s design.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Design
At first glance, the DXP 4800 Plus appears to be a fairly standard four-disk NAS enclosure, and you might be forgiven for thinking it’s just reiterating the typical case design prevalent among numerous companies. However, there’s more to its design and efficiency than meets the eye. For starters, the external enclosure is entirely metal, enhancing heat dissipation directly from the base panel housing the M.2 modules. Additionally, UGREEN has infused the design with their unique stylistic choices, evident in the presentation of individual bays and the arrangement and accessibility of various ports and connections.
The inclusion of small design flourishes, like the rear removable mesh metallic fan panel that magnetically attaches to the casing, is particularly appreciated. While such a feature is familiar to prosumer PC cases, it’s surprisingly rare in NAS designs – puzzling, given NAS systems’ continuous operation and higher likelihood of accumulating dust and debris. Despite being a relatively minor detail, this fan cover’s presence in UGREEN’s first product impresses me.
Handling individual storage bays, however, presents a mixed reaction. The bold numeric design distinguishes it aesthetically from other NAS brands that often opt for bland, nondescript bays. The tool-less, click-and-load trays that forego the need for a screwdriver for drive installation and the inclusion of individual locking mechanisms (with keys) are commendable features.
Yet, these trays feel somewhat flimsy compared to the more robust trays found in desktop solutions from Synology and QNAP. While they secure the hard drives and align with the internal enclosure runners, the internal locking mechanism doesn’t inspire confidence in its security. The trays’ perceived cheap production quality slightly detracts from the overall positive aesthetic. Despite this, the system supports the latest 22TB hard drives, which means daily interaction with these trays will be minimal.
The main storage area features a pre-constructed PCB with four integrated SATA and power connectors. The system documentation indicates that SAS drives are unsupported, a non-issue for this system’s scale and price point.
Upon removing the base’s metallic panel, the two M.2 NVMe SSD bays and upgradable DDR5 SODIMM ports are revealed. Space constraints make heat sink installation challenging, but UGREEN has anticipated this with the inclusion of thick heat pads in the accessory kit, facilitating heat dissipation through the external casing.
UGREEN’s entry into 24/7 service storage with the DXP 4800 Plus is noteworthy, especially for a brand new to this sector. Their effort to differentiate through design and functionality is largely successful, although the storage trays’ quality could be improved. Overall, the system’s design is a strong point, and I look forward to discussing ports and connectivity next.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Ports and Connections
One of the earliest things to notice about the connectivity on offer on the DXP 4800 Plus NAS is that this system brings back support for SD cards. This may seem almost insane to the average photo and video editor, but SD card readers on NAS devices have been largely absent for almost a decade, despite enormous protestations from photo and video editors for years. Therefore, it’s kind of impressive that UGREEN has opted to provide an SD card slot and a front-mounted USB Type-C connection on the DXP4800 Plus when practically every other brand in the NAS industry does not. It’s going to be a tremendously convenient feature for those wanting to ingest media directly into the system via numerous storage methods and camera systems, making it that much more convenient than many others in the market.
Carrying on the subject of convenience, it’s also worth highlighting that the system not only has a front-mounted USB like the majority of other NAS systems but also arrives with USB Type-C connectivity on the front. This is a surprisingly rare feature in most modern desktop NAS devices, even in 2024.
Flipping the device around, we see that the system has even more USB ports that can be utilized by the system in a host-client relationship. That means that the UGREEN NAS system will act as the host device for connected storage drives and supported peripherals. Unfortunately, this does mean that you cannot directly connect to this device using those USB ports, and the USB 2.0 connections are pretty much exclusively designed for connecting printers and office peripherals, uninterruptible power supplies, or keyboard/mouse in KVM setups alongside the visual output.
The visual output of this system is a 4K 60 frames per second HDMI 2.0 connection. The software for the UGREEN NAS system is still in beta, and currently, the HDMI output is limited to command line access. Currently, there is no graphical user interface afforded to the HDMI output, such as you would find on a QNAP or Asustor NAS system, but as this is a relatively niche feature for many, I’m not going to give them too much of a hard time over this.
Across the rest of the UGREEN NAS range, there is a multitude of different connection profiles and options. In the case of the DXP 4800 Plus, the system arrives with a single 10 gigabit ethernet connection and a single 2.5 gigabit Ethernet connection. Although there is a lack of Thunderbolt connectivity afforded to the more expensive Intel i5 options, the inclusion of these two copper network connections means that not only is there support for failover, but there is also support for link aggregation and port trunking. Given that the system already supports SMB Multi-channel, which can be enabled in the control panel of the UGREEN software, it means in Windows environments, there’s potential for 1.25 GB per second network transmission.The saturation of both of these ports is going to be pretty easy for a four-hard-drive and two NVMe system, and the system does support direct connection from a PC or Mac client directly into the UGREEN system if preferred. However, there is no option for upgrading the system via PCIe cards.
Overall, in terms of ports and connectivity, I’m really happy with everything I found on the DXP 4800 Plus, and although it lacks a bit of scalability in terms of improving upon the network connectivity down the line, what you have at this price point is a fantastic base level of network connectivity, combined with a decent degree of functionality and modern storage expandability to boot. However, all of that connectivity isn’t a great deal if you don’t have much to work with inside, so let’s talk about the internal hardware architecture of the UGREEN NAS.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Internal Hardware
As mentioned earlier, it’s surprisingly confident of UGREEN to launch so many different NAS devices simultaneously for their first foray into network-attached storage. Not only have they provided several different storage scales and architectures, but they are also supporting three different internal hardware CPUs in terms of CPU. The scale in terms of price and capabilities of each system varies, but they include the Intel N100, Intel Pentium Gold, and Intel 12th Generation i5. The DXP4800 Plus arrived with an Intel Pentium G processor that is a five-core, six-thread architecture (one power core, four efficiency cores).
Though not the first to utilize this CPU in domestic and prosumer NAS, nevertheless, this processor is remarkably underused. Generally, when most brands opt to play it safe with the N100/N300 or immediately scale up towards the i5. It’s surprising because the Pentium Gold processor does a surprisingly good job of balancing a reasonable price point versus a decent degree of hardware resources at your disposal. This is a 20 lane Gen 4 processor that still manages to be more power-efficient than the i5 in bigger models.
Arriving with integrated graphics, supporting up to 64 gigabytes of memory (arriving with 8GB of DDR5 SODIMM and two slots), there is a lot to like here. It is especially surprising when you realize that the brand already provides closely priced N100 and i5 models either side of this device in UGREEN’s NAS portfolio. This processor performs exceedingly well with Plex Media Server and, thanks to those 20 lanes, also means there’s a decent spread of available hardware architecture across the whole device.
The layout of the internal architecture is still yet to be confirmed at the time of writing this review, but digging a little into the backend via SSH revealed that each of the M.2 NVMe slots on the base of this system are Gen 4 x 4. However, how this all separates out on the system chipset and whether these are being delivered into PCIe switches to spread the architecture out for the rest of the system storage, double network connectivity, and dedicating lanes to all those available connections, is definitely an area that leaves pause for thought.
Returning to that base panel, we find that the system arrives with an 8GB DDR5 SODIMM memory module and the capacity to add an additional module when needed. 8GB for this system is pretty decent, but do keep in mind that this system does not support ECC memory. Indeed, none of the UGREEN systems support ECC memory, and although they make a point of highlighting the on-die checks associated with DDR5, most experienced storage enthusiasts tend to prefer traditional ECC memory support. Nevertheless, 8GB is a good amount of memory to start with, and it’s great to know that you are not locked in with presoldered and fixed memory on the board, which is a move often used by more economical brands to save some money and dedicate lanes more efficiently. There see to be two network controllers, one 10GbE controller located under a heatsink:
Which I had difficulty identifying, but I suspect is a Marvell AQtion Aquantia AQC113/AQC114/AQC114CS/AQC115Cs, comprising (from official pages) a high-performance,Scalable mGig, Ethernet MAC+PHY Controllers designed to support the following network rates: 10GBASE-T/5GBASET/ 2.5GBASE-T/1000BASET/100BASE-TX/10BASE-Te. When equipped with a PCI Express Gen 4 x4, this family of Scalable mGig Ethernet MAC+PHY Controllers easily handle the 10 GbE line-rate performance. The AQC113, AQC114, AQC114CS, AQC115C device family combines a mGig Ethernet MAC Controller with a full-reach, low-power, highperformance, multi-gigabit, single-port Gen 4 Ethernet Alaska PHY transceiver into a single, monolithic device that is designed using the latest 14nm, multi-gate, FinFET process technology.
And an additional 2.5GbE Controller (the Intel S2363L51 SRKTU, instead of the usual Intel i226-V 2.5GbE we have observed in a number of Topton/CWWK boards of late) that very little information is available for online:
The USB controller/manager appears to be an ASM1543, (from the ASmedia pages) a one Four to two differential channels mux switch with integrated Type-C Configuration Channel Logic Circuitry, using for USB3.1 type-C mux and CC detection application. The signal performance of mux switch is up to 10Gbps SuperSpeedPlus USB bus with low insertion loss and return loss, and it also supports USB plug orientation, configurable as DFP role or UFP role through the setting of strapping pins, and implementing the strapping for the setting/detection of Type-C current mode, following USB3.1 Revision 1.0 and USB Type-C Connector and Cable Revision 1.3 standard specification.
Next, we find a Richtek RT3624BE, (from the manf pages) a synchronous buck controller which supports 2 output rails and can fully meet Intel IMVP9.1 requirements. The RT3624BE adopts G-NAVPTM (Green Native AVP) which is Richtek’s proprietary topology derived from finite DC gain of EA amplifier with current mode control, making it easy to set the droop to meet all Intel CPU requirements of AVP (Adaptive Voltage Positioning). Based on the G-NAVPTM topology, the RT3624BE features a new generation of quick response mechanism (Adaptive Quick Response, AQR) to optimize AVP performance during load transient and reduce output capacitors. The RT3624BE integrates a high accuracy ADC for platform and function settings, such as ICCMAX, switching frequency, over-current threshold or AQR trigger level.=
In terms of the SATA storage management, I found a ASMedia ASM116 SATA host controller(AHCI). Which is upstream PCIe Gen3 x2 and downstream four SATA Gen3 ports. It’s a low latency, low cost and low power AHCI controller. With four SATA ports and cascaded port multipliers, ASM1164 can enable users to build up various high speed IO systems, including server, high capacity system storage or surveillance platforms.
Finally, we find the two M.2 NVMe slots. Each of these slots supports a 2280 length SSD, which, at launch, can be utilized as a storage pool. As the software, and indeed the system as a whole, is still in early development, features such as caching or even tiered caching appear to be absent at this time. Initially, I was really pleased and impressed that the DXP4800 Plus box arrived with twin NVMe four lanes architecture on each individual slot.
This means that this four-hard-drive system also comes with two super-fast 8000 megabytes per second bandwidth SSD upgrade slots – which is tremendously rare and hugely appealing.
Additionally, digging a bit more into the backend of the system via SSH showed that there had been no downgrade on this speed either! Typically, for reasons of lane allocation, consumption, or heat generation in a system, M.2 slots will often be internally downgraded to a lower performance speed (as is often the case with the likes of Synology and QNAP). There was no sign of this here, and this was a genuine breath of fresh air to see such a high speed and high bandwidth connection afforded to these SSD slots.
Earlier in March when I was testing the (late alpha, early Beta) version of the NAS software, system and services, the performance numbers I got were not hugely encouraging internally. However, there have been numerous improvements on the system software and I am pleased to confirm that the M.2 NVMe slots were indeed 4×4 bandwidth and that some brief 1GB transfer/creation testing showed some early 7GB/s benchmarks on the Gen 4×4 SSD I has inside the system. Now we cannot rule out the impact of caching internally and these tests are NOT reflective of everyday (i.e non synthetic) use, but it was definitely an encouraging sign.
However, when I tried to repeatedly move 1GB of data between each of the NM,2 NVMe, the performance would drop down to 2.4Gb/s, which further suggested some lane sharing and a possible bottleneck by a controller perhaps. Again, this is a beta software/system and UGREEN repeated that this system is still undergoing optimization.
External performance over 10GbE was also an area that I really, REALLY hope this is sees significant optimization. I was hitting a bottleneck of around 500-600MB/s on upload and download (on a 10Gbe / 1,000MB/s connection). The performance numbers below were over 10GbE (with the MTU set at 1500 – As the software is currently not allowing me to scale it to 9000 MTU/Jumbo frames) and for 4x HDDs in a RAID 5, I would be happy with 600MB/s realistically. however…
When I was hitting the SAME numbers when I was accessing a Gen 4×4 M.2 NVMe over 10GbE, I would FULLY expect this to be 999MB/s up and down! Instead, the 10GbE connection, using AJA, on a Seagate Firecuda 530 SSD, was still hitting that bottleneck.
Switching to a Windows transfer test, moving 5GB of data to the m.2 NVMe SSD, over 10GbE saw similar results. My test PC in this case was running on a Gen4x4 SSD, so there was no meaningful storage bottleneck on my PC, and the connection was established via a clear 10GbE connection (via a managed Netgear switch) and using a Sonnet Solo 10G adapter over Thunderbolt.
Further testing confirmed performance dips when transferring data between SSDs, indicating a shared pathway. Despite this being a pre-release sample, and acknowledging potential future optimizations, the observed SSD performance, though still faster than many market alternatives, fell comparatively short of expectations given the hardware capabilities (though still higher than the majority of M.2 SSD performance offered by other brands providing HDD SATA + M.2 solutions right now).
The UGREEN NAS’s software, still in beta, promises further insights into the brand’s direction with their NAS solution and its accompanying software and services, warranting a closer examination as development progresses.
UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NASync Review – Software
At the time of writing, the UGREEN NAS software is still in beta, with the mobile application is live now. Reviewing the software included with the DXP4800 Plus—as a final product—feels somewhat premature. The NASsync software beta reveals many baseline functions and long-term plans, detailed in the video below in our initial overview and first impressions of the UGREEN NAS software:
You can read the MASSIVE Software review (covering the Desktop and Mobile experience) HERE on the NASCompares Review Article.
Alternatively, you can watch the video version of the UGREEN UGOS NAS Software Beta Review in the video below:
The TL;DR on the UGREEN NAS software
it’s on track to become a smooth and user-friendly experience, comparable to giants like Synology and QNAP, especially in terms of the web browser experience. Unlike opting for the complexity of TrueNAS or the streamlined, container-focused UI of UnRAID, the UGREEN NAS software is more akin to Synology DSM. The foundation is clearly laid out for expansion in terms of features and tools for the user’s disposal. However, there are notable absences of baseline applications such as container or virtual machine support, and a multi-tiered backup solution within the web GUI (though the UGREEN NAS mobile and desktop clients are in development, expected to preview in March). Basic services for file management, shares, user account control, and an app center—soon to be linked to a repository—are all user-friendly but present some inconsistencies, likely due to its beta status and ongoing development. The physical product may be closer to final development, but the software needs more time for optimization. SMB services were less consistent than desired, and settings changes sometimes didn’t save or recall correctly. This is common for beta software finding its footing, yet it’s important to note that the hardware feels more refined than the software at this stage, months before user delivery. In brief:
What I liked:
- Intuitive UI with services located logically and responsive controls.
- Baseline services such as network interface management, user account control, firewall handling, and SSH interface control are all present.
- A clearly defined app center awaiting connection to an online repository.
- Helpful tips and guidance are available on most pages, aiding new users.
- Support for modern services like SMB3 multi-channel and domain services in the beta.
- Clear account and resource management accessible from the desktop, likely appealing to most users.
- The inclusion of a remote access relay service and UGREEN account creation from day one, simplifying remote access for new users with built-in firewall and domain tools.
What I disliked:
- Absence of two-factor authentication in the software.
- Lack of virtualization or container applications at this stage.
- Sporadic SMB performance.
- Default enablement of SSH support, which may change post-beta.
- In-progress language integration, leading to occasional default displays in Chinese or error messages in Chinese despite English settings.
Improvements needed:
- Expansion of app integration and desktop client tools for easier system-client bridging.
- Introduction of a default application for device discovery on the local network, a basic service offered by many NAS brands.
- More information on UGREEN account and remote access security.
Acknowledging this is a beta, it’s fair to reserve full judgment until the software fully rolls out. As it stands, this beta is promising yet lacks some established NAS software fundamentals. Hopefully, we’ll see significant advancements as the release approaches.
UGREEN DXP4800 Plus NAS Storage Review – Verdict and Conclusion
BOTTOM LINE – The UGREEN NASYnc DXP4800 Plus does not feel ‘finished’ yet and still needs more time in the over, but UGREEN have been very clear with me that this product is not intended for release and fulfilment till summer 2024 and improvements, optimization and product completion is still in progress. Evaluating the UGreen NAS systems, particularly the DXP4800 PLUS, presents a unique set of challenges, given its status as both a pre-release and a pre-crowdfunding sample. This NAS solution stands out not just for its robust construction but also for its exceptional entry price, which seems quite competitive even against its Retail Price Point for the array of hardware it brings to the table. UGreen’s initiative to infuse their extensive experience in computer accessories into a NAS product has resulted in a distinctive aesthetic that sets it apart from the conventional 4-bay server box designs that dominate the market. Their decision to launch through Kickstarter, while not entirely novel in the NAS or personal-cloud arena, signifies one of the most assertive and bold market entries observed to date. The strategy of arriving on the market primarily through crowdfunding will undoubtedly prompt potential users to carefully consider their investment. However, it’s worth noting the significant potential this approach offers for bringing innovative products directly to those who would most benefit from them. The current state of the UGreen NAS software, still in its beta phase, showcases a solid foundation with much promise, despite needing further refinement to stand toe-to-toe with industry giants like Synology and QNAP. The hardware’s scalability and overall performance metrics are commendable, though there’s an observed need for further optimization, particularly concerning the Gen 4×4 M.2 NVMe slots, which didn’t quite meet expected performance benchmarks. This could potentially be attributed to internal PCIe bottlenecking or other factors that may be addressed as the system progresses through its development phase. With the hope of significant software updates and enhancements, such as an expanded App center and a more integrated mobile client, the UGreen DXP4800 Plus is positioned as a noteworthy contender in the burgeoning turnkey and semi-DIY NAS market. Its compelling value proposition as an alternative to mainstream public cloud services, coupled with its attractive pricing, renders it a formidable option for those seeking robust data storage solutions. Yet, in consideration of its potential as an alternative to more established turnkey NAS solutions, a final verdict is reserved until the product’s full public release. The expectation is that, with continued development and user feedback, the UGreen DXP4800 Plus will not only refine its offerings but also significantly influence user expectations and standards within the NAS market.
| PROS of the UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NAS | CONS of the UGREEN DXP4800 PLUS NAS |
| Exceptional Hardware for the Price 4 HDDs + 2x Gen 4×4 M.2 in 1 box under $400 Good Balanced CPU choice in the Pentium Gold 8505 10GbE and 2.5GbE as standard An SD Card Slot (wielrd rare!) 10/10 Build Quality Great Scalability Fantastic Mobile Application (even vs Synology and QNAP etc) Desktop/Browser GUI shows promise Established Brand entering the NAS Market Not too noisy (comparatively) Very Appealing retail package+accessories |
10GbE Performance was underwhelming Crowdfunding choice is confusing Software (still in Beta) is still far from ready 22/3/24 non-UGREEN PSU is unexpected |
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It would be nice if the NAS allowed you to install 3rd party VPN software. Many times it is beneficial to have anonymity to your IP identity
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can you upload other software? can you install unRaid or TrueNAS?
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Is there a way to access the nas server from outside?
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I have no use for HDD even in a NAS, because of their far slower transfer speeds.
Question is should I buy a NAS that has both 2.5inch SATA SSD bays & NVMe slots, or keep searching/waiting for an all NVMe NAS that isn’t super wrongfully priced.
I have no clue. I only have about 1Tb of data so I can buy very fairly priced 1Tb/2Tb NVMe SSD’s.
What should I do?
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Mine is showing up tomorrow. We will see what happens
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it is time they start using qualcom/arm chips instead from android phones which are more than what is needed with high power efficiency & low temperatures.
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I feel like a nuub…. Help me understand the thunderbolt ports. If I hook my MacBook Pro via the thunderbolt 4 ports, will have a 10Gbps+ direct connection between my Mac and this as additional storage. I’m an amateur photographer using medium format photos (large). Looking to connect directly, import my photos into this NAS and editing from it. Basically looking for bi-directional SSD fast connectivity. Help please…
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If it is the retail version, would you recommend to buy? (Since the price in south-east Asia is very competitive with around 300 pound)
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Can you do a new video setting up Plex on a DXP4800 Plus utilizing a Mac? I tried to follow your tutorials but there is a newer UI for the docker container setup that looks very different than your other tutorial and a BUNCH of new environmental values that i believe are keeping it from running properly. Please help!
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This one is now selling for 999? That is ridiculous. Ehat does it think it is? A flashtor 12?
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is it possible to ssh-connect on the system?
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DXP6800 Pro, with 6x2TB Ironwolf SSD’s plus 2x4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe’s + 64GB RAM. Set up single storage pool w/ 6 SSD’s (12TB, 8TB usable). Updated to newest FW. Rebooted a couple of times. Problem – in Storage Manager, there is no option to add SSD Cache. Should be found by clicking the 3 dots to the right of the storage pool. That pull-down menu does not list SSD caching at all. Further, under Hard Disks it shows the 2 NVMe drives and says they are both “normal”. Are these NAS incompatible with Crucial P3+ NVMe’s?? This is frustrating.
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I see this thing for €999,99 with 8GB of RAM and no SSDs and that’s 500 bucks too much.The UGREEN Software sucks donkey balls. Maybe they should hire someone who actually knows how to tune Linux and SAMBA…
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I see this thing for €999,99 with 8GB of RAM and no SSDs and that’s 500 bucks too much.The UGREEN Software sucks donkey balls. Maybe they should hire someone who actually knows how to tune Linux and SAMBA…
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At $999 without storage, you have to be joking.
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If I just use it as aNetworkdrive with two NVMEs for writing and reading cache + HDDs, and turn anything else off, make it not reachable, I should be fine? Or is the certificate breach a problem still?
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i would try a dual channel sodimm kit and see if that changes anything.
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The DXP-4800 Plus DOESN’T, DOESN’T support Seagate Exos x18 16tb (4) brand new hard drives i just bought! UFB UNBELIEVABLE! I wasted about over $1,200 !
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Don’t work with seagate exos 18 16tb hdd!!!!!!!!
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Shame it doesn’t support more drives and the big 8TB drives.
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Ok so this was three months ago… Any improvements in the ecosystem?
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A NAS with UGREEN hardware with Synology software would be amazing…
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If there is an ECC Ram and NFS I can’t do it.
Also that static noise when you’re testing the fan noise is because the Nas is not well sealed from interference. I bet you it would fail FCC regulations for interference if it was scrutinized
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I don’t understand why this exists. Why not buy a $400-500 mini PC? It has a much more powerful cpu and has flash storage drives?
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Please show how to get into the memory module area. that piece is not coming out after removing all the screws for me. Almost all the reviewers wer simply skipping that part and just jump into that memory module area which tells me it is either painful or needs a special tool. I followed the manual to the letter and it is not coming out for me to upgrade the memory module.
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Please explain how you disassembled the server casing. I removed the rubber caps from the back and unscrewed the 4 screws, but I still cannot remove the server casing. I want to replace the UGREEN disk with another one and install a different OS. Video Chapters 19:24 – Internal Hardware
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i love this nas but It is confusing that my Drives are 250MBps but I am Only getting 150MBps
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That power draw is horrendous
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There are flash based nas from well known brands like QNAP SYNOLOGY AUSTOR or just diy in a system using adaptors for more m.2 that the typical motherboard has.
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do you have any idea when the flash system is being re-stocked? Every time I look they are out of stock :/
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Any idea how can I install UGOS back to my NAS? on ugreen downloads all I can get is .img files but I don’t know how to load it to the m.2 drive
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Great video! Hi everyone, I am a newbie to this type of thecnology, but I would lie to set up Plex on my NASync 480t Plus so that I can copy all my UHDVD movies on the NAS to easily access it from anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction/video on how to actually set it up step by step – again newbie. Thank you in advance.
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I got my DXP4800+ a few days ago (as of this post) and while the default software looks more polished, I’m now struggling with network speed issues (facepalm). Latest software version is not helping. Goes full throttle for a few seconds, then it drops to a crawl (kb/s) I may have to give a 3rd party software a go at this rate. But I knew what I was getting myself into, so it’s just annoying, not game breaking xD
Can’t say the same for innocent people who only wanted an off the shelf experience though.
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Just got my ugreen nas setup and installed plex docker, pulled up the web interface running from the nas, I point it to folders on the nas containing my videos, it will not show any media, not sure what I am doing wrong here!
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Will I be able to use the thunderbolt connection to transfer files from my drobo to the urgreen?
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How do I get plex on my Ugreen Nas? I understand the docker but after that I’m lost
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hello I’ve been wondering if I you could tell me if the the backup program can delete the photos of my iPhone, once they are uploaded to the NAS through wifi?
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Great video! Very informative. Newbie here. I just received mine 1 hour ago, and I would like to set it up sometime this week. I need some help figuring out some questions:
1. The device came with an 8gb SODIMM DDR 5. Should I keep it and add another 32gb or should I install 2 x 16gb (not sure how the ram is processed)
2. Should I buy two 4 TB SSD nvme 2.0 and add two other at a later date or should I buy four 2TB now (asking because the 4TB ssd are a bit expensive).
Thank you.
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How did you get hardware transcoding to work with Plex via docker? I’m running the DXP-4800 Plus and I cannot for the life of me get HW transcoding to work. I have the Plex lifetime subscription and the toggles enabled in Plex. I just be missing something with the docker container config.
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Would you consider making a step by step Docker Plex setup guide for the new Ugreen NASync systems, now that its actually shipping out to the backers of the Kickstarter?
I know that its one of the most asked questions on the Facebook group, is how to get Plex running.
Since there is no native Plex app coming in the near future on UGNAS, it leaves these backers with no other choice but to use Docker.
I find the idea of making a docker compose file very intimidating and would much rather a pro like yourself do all the work, and I just copy what you did. (SORRY IF THAT SOUNDS HORRIBLE)
I have a 2 Bay Synology NAS I have been using for Plex and will need to move my content from the Synology NAS to my new 8 Bay UGreen NAS, do you think this will be a seamless process, or is it basically starting from scratch?
Especially since I am going from the Native Synology Plex app, to Docker.
Thank you!
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Don’t see setup video to get Plex running only crap jellyfish.
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I’ve always had good experiences with UGreen products. So this should be promising.
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@nascompares Can you PLEASE do an in depth how to set up Plex with docker on UGREEN? A lot of people including me are getting the NAS’s now. I have never used docker. Would love a step by step plex setup on UGREEN. Thanks.
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Good to see a Synology competitor, maybe Synology start to release better things.
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Just received my nas and started plex via docker on Volume 1 (ssd). Added media folder from Volume 2 (hdd). Plex shows the folder as empty. Anyone got any ideas?
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What is the crackling popping sounds while you were doing the fan noise testing???
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hah love the video and the change between segments
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Robbie as always you show us all of the incredible new NAS devices. And this is the one small users have been waiting for, too. Great, great video. Cheers.
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Been seeing a lot pop up with this new company. Just nervous with new companies that they might end up like DROBO and then you are stuck with no more service or updates.
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That is splendid, but can a dentist sponsor you and fix the grill? What is it with people from the UK always having fucked up teeth.
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I came here because I’m a photographer that needs a NAS but do not want to touch a screwdriver or learn any jargan, wish there were more plug and play NAS.
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It appears that the campaign isn’t open for us to contribute from the United Kingdom, but for the United States and Germany only ….am I missing anything here?
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Hi, i think it’s a great device, but i have two u.2 server ssd Micron and Intel, can they be used with this NAS?
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Hello! I have a question. I’m planning on ditching google photos and get myself one of these.
My question is : since you can create user profiles. If two different users backup their photos, will they be stored in the same photo library ? Or will each user have their own ?
For example say I have a 100 picture of a dog and my wife has 100 pictures of a cat, when I open the photos app. Will I see 200 pictures under my account ?
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Can it compete with Synology? Should I replace my DS920+ with this one?
I’m looking for 10GB connection.
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I listened to your whole video with the good and the bad(very well done). I would like to get this product now but I agree with you and I will wait till it goes full retail and then we will know if the hardware stays the same and if loading other OS’s like TrueNas and Proxmox will work or be allowed. I am super excited about the hardware and so disappointed with Synology with the restrictions they have on HD, NVMe and memory, it looks like Ugreen has the better hardware platform which is years newer and off the shelf parts we can upgrade.
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I’ll stick with Synology
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绿联真帅！期待在中国也能买到
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It’s a china company! You want to put all your data in their hands, huh? There’s an expensive cost to that cheaper solution.
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I think their focus should be the hardware release and only that. They can still come up with software. There are free third party NAS sofware pieces that work. Why make it a economic guessing game when you could be turning the market upside down easily
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I just watched another review of this, and the idle power consumption was insanely high, 30 watts. It’s very disappointing if it will be that high… Arguably it should be around 5-6-8W idle for a device like this.
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nice device, except front panel and power button 🙁
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Hopefully this will push the big players to stop releasing NAS with 3 gen old Celeron hardware. RN I am looking into upgrading my QNAP NAS and would love something with an Intel N100 or even N300 and there’s like NOTHING out there really unless I want some OS I’m not sure I am fine with or hacking the device to install another OS (which I definitely don’t want).
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my only interest in that nas would be to use it as a unraid box. i would not look at it as a “ugreen nas”, just as a hardware upgrade over my old mid tower nas
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Man I just built my own NAS and didn’t even know about this thing. I wish I did.
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ugreen needs to support more third party os’s like synology does…. oh wait…..
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i hope he can make 5 mins video’s.
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UGreen is a Chinese company. If you don’t mind them spying on you, go ahead guys.
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i´ll stay on my Asustor FS6706T Flashstor 6
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The SD card is useless if you’re using a NAS like a actual NAS
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Personally due to the fact they did not include the UK in the kickstarter campaign, and since NASCompares is based in the UK and we can’t buy it, I am going with the Asustor Flashstore 12 Pro, I recently bouhgt the Asustor Lockstore 4 Gen 2 and I added 4 x 18 Seagate Ironwolf Pro, all for file storage and plex server, and cloud storage, macbook air and macbook pro backups and more storage for my numerous Raspberry Pi setups., as well as home automation. Will use the Asustor Flashstore 12 Pro as a silent Plex server sitting under my wall mounted TV. So Asustor Lockstore 4 gen 2 will have duplicate copy of Plex files for back up.
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Here’s a question: If one was to procure the 4-bay NAS, but only populate it at the start with two HDD’s, what level of effort will there be to install additional drives (storage) in the empty bays later on? Thanks!
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Very interesting product – I’ve been looking for something exactly like this. To be honest as a consumer user I’m not even that focused on getting top performance out of it. I’d be quite fine with a few hundred MB/s over ethernet via file shares. The main factor for me is the compact size, the quiet operation, the hopefully low idle power consumption, and the flexibility of it as a platform. But, I also have to say that at 800 euros it’s getting pretty expensive for a regular consumer who wouldn’t use it for work related tasks. And if someone is using it for work, then maybe they’d have a lot more options to look at from more established professional brands.
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Will a Thunderbolt external multi-drive enclosure like the OWC Thunderbay 8 work with the UGreen DXP480T through the Thunderbolt connection
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TrueNAS Scale compatibility was my sticking point. Looking at other videos that does not seem to be an issue. Ordered it from the kickstarter. Will pair it with 4 16GB Ironwol Pro (don’t need more than that) and 2 4GB NVMe drives. Will just need to figure out the RAM specs so I can bump RAM to 64GB.
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What’s different on the plus version
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I would Iike a mini-PC version of this with 10GbE, HDMI 2.1, and Displayport 2.0 at the back and USBs, SD-card reader, and thunderbolt 4 connectivity at the front panel. ????
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I have 4 Synology’s. This looks very polished with DDR RAM and a 10G NIC! I upgraded my RAM and NIC in my 1621+ and 1821+ to 32GB RAM and 10G
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Kickstarter is US and Germany only. Waste of time for other countries… should make that clear.
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sadly, pre-order not available for uae customers =(
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@nascompares official statement on power consumption
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Here are the current power consumptions for different models.
fully loaded
DXP2800: Standby 51.29W (2*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
DXP4800: Standby 73.138W (4*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
General load
DXP2800: Standby 16.77W (2*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
DXP2800: Standby 26.92W (2*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
DXP4800: Standby 29.279W (2*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
DXP4800 Plus: Standby 30.608W (4*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
DXP4800 Plus: Standby 51.437W (4*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
Empty load
DXP2800: Standby 9.85W (no drives)
Other models are still being tested so we currently do not have data available to share.
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Unproven Synology clone late to the party.
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Hey one question how will be this nas to store photos from an android phone can the process be easy to use?
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Can it run unraid?
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How were you able to access the actual BIOS? I still haven’t found a way into mine.
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I don’t like that it is maxed out at 16TB of storage.
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This channel is indispensable. Thank You!
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I wonder it the 10gbe performance is better on TrueNas, OMV, or Proxmox.
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The cpu usage is getting higher on playback due to audio transcode, as this is not done using HW. You won´t see an cpu usage increase by hw transcode.
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Will the final released version of the Ugreen NAS’s have any different hardware or other parts inside might be different than these Kickstarter versions?
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Once again Youtubers not knowing wtf they are doing. You mention your dd “benchmark” not being cached, but it is.. That’s why your first two measurement are significantly slower; they are the real Q1T1 read speed and why copying between the drives is similarly slow. Did you really think solid state drives needs a few seconds/runs to “warm up” first, lol? Fast NVMe needs more than QD1 to achieve max sequential performance, which makes dd a terrible benchmark for them.
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It just occurred to me that one could probably bang in four or five of those NVMe to SATA cards (each usually support 4 or 5 SATA ports) into one of these UGreen models and be able to support something like~25 SATA HDD or ~25 SATA SSDs.
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I would like to know, if I occupy all 4 bays and make a volume with all sdds, is the speed then bottlenecked but the 2 Gen3x2 bays?
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I made it to 12 minutes in which I picked up a whole lot of good info so thanks for that, I will be watching UGreen’s progress. Unfortunately for me at just past 12 minutes the hyper-caffenated-rant style presentation went from novelty to distraction for me so I bailed.
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Testing with AV1 would be amazing.
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1000th like! (if I’m to believe YouTube.)
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Too bad it can’t utilize tb4 and have DAS functionality, big missed op
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I’d be interested to see smart home use cases of the 480T.
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Does this NAS come with intel vPro AMT?
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Unfortunately, there’s no RTSP (yet). They replied to a comment in the campaign that it’s in their “need to do” list, which seems like it won’t be available anytime soon.
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Short question: Can we install Debian with Proxmox on it? Or does it have some weird quriks that hinders that?
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There seems to be a lot of negativity around the number of reviews for this here, and that it’s a kickstarter. To be fair there are lots of reviews on this site for different manufacturers, so I don’t see any special treatment of Ugreen. Also, as a video editor this is exactly what I’ve been looking for, and based on this review, and the fact it’s Ugreen, if I could I’d be buying off the kickstarter, but sadly just Germany and US. I understand if you have large amounts of data this NAS would be limiting but as an editor it’s perfect, I still have a Terramaster with 24gigs in it to offload completed jobs. I am currently editing off the Terramaster but even with 10Gbe it struggles editing 4K due to the Platter drives.
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Thank you for making me realise it does not ship to the UK. Really annoying but saved me from looking more into it.
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It still bugs me with mini PCs and this, that manufacturers are so wedded to the 4x4x2 (ish) form factor, that you can’t just chuck a Noctua fan in them when if it were maybe an inch or so larger, there’d be more than enough room for it. Or just sell the base version, and an upgraded fancy case.
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I was going to buy this but if the Third Party OS option doesn’t change then I am out.
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hi thanks for clearing up if the mobile app will automatically upload your photos to the Nas or you will have to do it manually… thanks for clearing that up again. thanks for all your reviews. keeping us up to date on the UGreen Nas, it’s very informal. thanks again.
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they’ve made over 10 million so far, is insane for such a big company
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Your main camera is the only thing you need
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If only it was fanless, passively cooled. There’s a missed opportunity not making it perfectly silent IMO. The most interesting option I’ve seen so far is the one LTT looked at recently, the Friendlyelec CM3588.
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Another of the channels that got the NAS was able to get higher network speed by increasing the RAM to the maximum
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The seagull was not outside my window? ????
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Why only shipping to US and Germany?
Pointless.
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If the host had demonstrated the Plex client app then I believe transcoding would not have been required and smooth playback easily achieved (which would have ended the video much sooner). I tested, at the same time, 4 streams of the Japan at night 8K file and 3 streams of the 4K 400 Mbps file (on repeat) on 7 devices (mix of PC/Mac/iPad/iPhone) using the Plex client app and transcoding was never required even thought the NAS hosting the content for my Plex server has a measly Atom CPU. The key to doing this was the performance of the NAS storage (600 GB/s+) and the overall network bandwidth, not the processing power of the NAS.
Older intel based PCs/Macs are a crap shoot when it comes to 8K content. I have an I5-8500 based system that can play 8K Plex content without transcoding via the Plex client app. My i7-8559U equipped laptop stutters when playing 8K content via the Plex client app. Current gen Intel, AMD, and Apple Silicon based systems have absolutely no need to transcode any content when using the Plex client app when it comes to local Plex content.
TV specific client hardware can be problematic. I did have to upgrade my Apple TV 4K to the current gen as I was network/CPU constrained with my previous device. I did this to avoid transcoding 4K 100 Mbps content. The current gen Apple TV 4K (Wi-Fi only) will play the 250 Mbps HEVC Jellyfish file without transcoding (anything more will stutter) but it will not play the Japan at night 8K HEVC file without transcoding. That is fine with me as my 4K content is currently maxing out at 100 Mbps so I have some headroom if 4K content bitrate increases. I want to avoid local transcoding when it comes to current high quality 4K content and for now that is easy to do.
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I would love to see ZFS on these NAS
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I’m wondering about a NAS to put in a car as a media server. After I saw another channel do a video on the FriendlyElec CM3588. I wondered what you thought about something like that. obviously I don’t want to use any spinning disks & that one sounded promising. In the car I was thinking videos wouldn’t need to go above 720 p.
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Do a cost comparison between a client device that can handle all Plex supported codecs vs a NAS whose CPU is powerfull enough to transcode. It is a no brainer to buy a cheap client device vs an expensive CPU powerful NAS. My recommendation is that one should not run a Plex server on a NAS. Reuse an old gaming PC or build a cheap PC and run Plex server directly on the hardware under LInux or in a Linux VM under Proxmox and then access the content via the network. I don’t run my Plex server on my NAS. I don’t use transcoding for client devices on my local network. I do use transcoding when I am remote but my Threadripper based server runnning Plex server in a VM can easily handle transcoding. I don’t have to worry that my 6 year old NAS can’t handle transcoding. The NAS just happily delivers the content to the Plex server via my 10 gigabit network. Treat your NAS as a file server, nothing more. Leave the heavy lifting, if required, to seperate hardware. If, for cost reasons, you need to run Plex on your NAS then don’t worry about the CPU of the NAS if all you are doing is local playback. The simplest and cheapest thing to do is to use a client device that can handle content with no need for transcoding whatsoever.
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The desktop client app shows the exact same media info that you referred to at 4:17
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A question I’ve been trying to get into touch with UGreen about there mobile app because I have a question if you know the answer that would be great, will the mobile app automatically upload your phone to the Nas or do you have to upload to the Nas manually? If you have to upload manually will they be implementing it in the future so it will upload automatically? Please let me know
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How about a comparison between the zimaboard Nas & this one. They’re both new to the market, both trying to make a name for themselves & create a buzz, so I think it’ll be a good video. I’m curious about purchasing one of them as my first Nas. Primarily interested in speed, value, future expansion & mobile app remote access etc
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Any knowledge on being able to get the kickstarter discount prices with shipping to the UK?
Currently it only shows USA and Germany.
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The ssd screws are so important, you have to mention it twice in a row ????
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The lag was due the ram. Not sure how much ram you have in. But increasing the ram will eliminate the buffer
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Does it have the capability to deploy a Virtual Machine?
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I buy a Nas because of the software. Otherwise I would go DIY.
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It looks like the SSD area would be better served by housing one single fan that takes up the whole area and can spin much slower for near complete silence with the same CFM. The engineering they chose looks slick to be sure, but I abhor tiny fans
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With ugreen nas lineup are you able in docker to change what storage pool the container lives in?
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On the down side at this point the drives are going to cost you an organ, unless of course you’re happy going back to a tiny capacity NAS. On the plus side, by the time large drives are affordable we might be on version 10 and it will be much improved.
Thanks for another nice review it’s good to see where things are going. Will look forward to it becoming mainstream.
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great review, thanks for all the helpful info and updates on all the ugreen nas news. really excited to get my 480t ????
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For an old man who doesn’t speak English like me, it’s not easy to follow but I’m trying hard. Thanks for his work on the channel.I ask you if you can tell me about good quality SSDs specifically for NAS with medium and medium/high prices. It would help me a lot. The content he makes on NAS is fantastic ????????
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@nascompares Are those test results using default 8GB RAM or full 64GB RAM? If it’s the default 8GB RAM, can you please redo the tests using 64GB RAM? I’m just curious if it will make any difference. Thanks! ????
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Great video as usual, this unit can be converted to an unraid server simply by booting with an unraid USB or there are additional steps?
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what they told you about the Thunderbolt ports being “host only” doesn’t make any sense. *minimally* , support for Thunderbolt *networking* — that is, point to point, peer to peer connections between two machines (I guess in “NDIS” mode) should be built into the kernel by default. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it can’t just like, become a USB mass storage device, and never would have expected that to begin with. but the idea that it “just can’t” make a Thunderbolt-Thunderbolt connection between itself and another host at ~40G for networking doesn’t pass the smell test. I suspect someone mistranslated something in emails.
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really unfortunate that this system just seems like a solution searching for a problem. I’m really not sure I understand what niche role this actually fills. It just seems so half-baked as presented, with the seemingly alpha-state software (same as the other boxes) and the limited PCIe and Thunderbolt functionality, at the price bracket it’s being sold at.
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The biggest issue is not the supposed risk crowd-funding platforms might have, but the fact UGREEN is using Kickstarter for marketing purposes. UGREEN is a 12 year old Chinese company. I’m pretty sure they have enough experience in the market to determine if a product will sell or not.
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Can you shrill anymore for Ugreen ?.. honestly how about you just say No … I will not “ review” an unfinished non shipping product…. I am really disappointed with your channel lately you might as well just rename it Ugreen
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far from even being useful. the drives are only accessible via a hatch in the bottom of the device??? so one would have to pull the device out of its place, unhook everything and flip it over and…. i wouldn’t want one from free.
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Great review. I would have preferred that they did PCI 4 x2 lanes for each of the 4 instead of using PCI 3 x 2 for 3&4. I’d probably buy if they had they done that. That said, they’ve done a better job than the others.
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Thank you for your review. This kind of storage box, will get down in price, as the nvme and SSD will be more expensive.
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It’s a shame it pnly does host based TB4. I would have loved to connect my Macs to it.
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Fine if you live in the US or Germany otherwise kind of pointless review “Ugreen NA Sync Series on Kickstarter will be available in the following countries: US, Germany”
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This is so great! Love the videos you make about these Ugreen NAS. Really love this model with m2 SSD, and have backed for one on Kickstarter, so its nice to learn the products more and see what they change based on feedback in the close future close to release!
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Software looks almost like a Synology copy
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I think your videos are just mega. You help many users, including me, to make the right choice. Your diagnosis is precise and quite accurate and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have pre-ordered the DXP 4800 Plus and the DXP 480T Plus because of your videos which I find exciting to follow. I think it’s great that Ugreen has eased up a bit so that you can install other operating systems such as Unraid or Truenas. Thanks for that and I think your work is just great. ????????????????????
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@35:53 – Wow, that is terrible. Might be OK for a single HDD but nobody is spending the money for a 10gbe NMVE NAS for that level of performance when writing large sequential files. If I got this and didn’t see it writing/reading at 900MB/s+ I would assume something is very, very wrong. Until they resolved it, and have proven it isn’t some hardware limitation/bad design that can’t be fixed with software, I wouldn’t fund/order this.
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cute, the asus flashstore comes out better pricewise though and is available with 12 m.2 storage slots, the favorite is still the QNAP TBS-h574TX, shiver down my spine if I just think of five 60 TB drives…that would nicely tidy up my hoarding issue……and ruin me financially as a side effect 😀
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Looks like a great product, I would of bought one but seems they only let Germany and USA back it and get the discounts. Really disappointing that a massive company like Ugreen would use kickstarter, and on top of that making it impossible for other countries is ridiculous.
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Rob another great assessment! I have supported the 4800 plus and anxious to get it!~ Thanks for your honest, deliberate, and detailed video!
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This guy is a master of stretching a 5 minute video into 45 minutes. He must have repeated that the ssd and i5 fans are separate about 10 times and doesn’t even get into the technical stuff until 17 minutes in. If you like wasting your time then watch this. I guess he’s just trying to game the algorithm at our expense.
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This looks like a perfect replacement for my aging nas with spinning rust. Shame the kickstarter is US and Germany delivery only 🙁
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0:00: ⚠️ Important disclaimer regarding changes in software updates and features of the reviewed product.
4:22: ???? UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS offers high performance at a surprisingly low price point for content creators.
8:51: ???? Detailed analysis of the device’s ventilation system and noise levels during testing.
14:36: ⚙️ Efficient heat dissipation design with integrated metal plate and fans for NVMe SSD system.
18:44: ⚡️ High-speed connection with limited network ports but Wi-Fi 6E capability for versatile usage.
23:06: ???? High-performance SSD NAS with impressive power efficiency, memory support, and hardware architecture.
27:02: ⚙️ Evaluation of Wi-Fi and Thunderbolt connections in UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS.
31:00: ⚙️ Evaluation of security features and system settings in the latest firmware update.
35:07: ⚙️ Performance optimization and network streaming capabilities need improvement in the UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS.
39:27: ⚙️ Analysis of internal components reveals consistent high-speed data transfer capabilities.
43:29: ⚙️ UDX480T Flash NAS offers unique design and features but falls short in performance and connectivity.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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If it could do thunderbolt in client mode then that would be a complete game changer. Like this I dont see the advantage over their other boxes which also have 2 SSDs. Essentially it seems like you are getting 2 SSD slots but losing all the HDD slots. If you could use it as highspeed thunderbolt storage, then that would be really cool for people who edit photos and videos on a macbook or something. Did they indicate if they want to add both ways functionality to the thunderbolt?
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It should be around $250 not more.
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I’m new to the NAS home desktop servers. But not the concept. I ran my own Telecommunications Company for 12 years serving large corporations. (HPs International Headquarters, Met Life, Ingersoll-Rand, Burns & Roe, etc) basically 1000 employee workstations or more. Retired in 2010.
I’ve been watching your channel nonstop trying to find what I consider “bare minimum” for an NAS setup. Which is 2000TB in a RAID2 configuration based on Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray disc size. I’m not reducing quality when I rip. That’s the point. I buy these formats for the quality. I do the same with music, when I rip CDs it’s at 320 unlimited. My music collection is over 7TB alone. I don’t care. I want the quality I’m paying for. Otherwise just get crappy streaming services.
3 years ago drive sizes were 22TB. 3 years later it’s still the same? WTF is going on. According to Moores Law I should be looking at 96TB drives today?
So let me just ask strait out.
What’s the best way right now to build a 2000TB desktop NAS server?
Thanks for your help.
Love the videos.
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Could this be used to replace a Thunderbolt 3 10G Ethernet Adapter (and for storage as well of course)?
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Is the 10Gbps speed bad performance present in the other OS’s (unraid truenas etc) ?
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Betteridge’s law – no 🙂 But thanks for the in-depth review.
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Another NAS without ECC…catering to the least common denominator yet again. Oh, and NO! $779 is not cheap for a NAS like this without ECC. I just built a 2U rack mount flash setup with ECC and far more capability for just under $1K US.
Its really sad that a NAS specific channel like this so easily dismisses the fact that all these systems do not have ECC.
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CAT 7 isn’t a real standard for network cabling. UGREEN are providing a cable that is more than likely CAT 6, or even 5E, and mislabeling like the huge number of sellers on Amazon are currently doing.
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It would be interesting how the performance is using UNRAID. if it is better, then its a software problem, if not what a shame
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Looks like UGreen could have opted for a single 120mm fan on that bottom cover to cool the NVMe drives.
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Could it be possible to install a different OS (TrueNAS, UnRAID, Ubuntu…) on this UGreen device?
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Why would I buy a turnkey NAS solution just to install a 3ed party OS on it? ????
I use Synology for their SW, not their HW. Had I wanted to use TrueNAS/UnRaid, I would have gone the DIY route and got better HW for less $
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Great stuff, Robbie. Do you know whether they will offer something like DSM’s surveillance station and automatic sync of selected folders on PC like via Synology Drive? If they promise these two, I’m on board. Tired of waiting for Synology to catch up with more modern CPUs
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Google doesn’t use pure SSD for data centers. Anyone could’ve used SSD drives for NAS if they want to, it’s just a lot more expensive than regular spinning disks.
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Thank you reviewing my suggestions! You’re the best
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Struggling to see the practical benefits of these boxes. Storage size is still seriously limited compared to SATA drives and being quieter can’t be the biggest selling point
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Great Update and huge amount of Infos as always ???? Is the Network Performance with other OS also poor or its only with UGOS?
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Really? Best guess ppl maybe afford 4 x 4tb ssd , raid 6 , so 12tb storage. Lol no thanks
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Where is the plex testing lol
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Great review ,
Wish they use intel/broadcom/mellanox 10gb chip .
Also I will never use a 3rd party as software therefore truenas scale is a must to install on this system !
@nascompares – great video !!
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I wish it has sd card slot. What a miss ????
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Thanks for digging into the hardware and showing internal file transfers. Try unraid with zfs1 of 2 or 3 drives and see how fast it is, just to verify it’s not OS/driver related. I think you are correct that the pcie and network are somehow connected to a pcie switch. That would explain the drop. Or that Aquantia nic has incorrect driver. I would pre order one, but can’t as not being able to saturate 10Gb is a no go. I think you’re beating them up too much on the security part. If account is local then let 3rd party do 2 factor, same with malware, etc.
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I’d love to see Synology just copy this device… cos you know DSM is BAE
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Another of your amazing detailed videos, thanks Robbie ????
Whilst I’m not in the market for another NAS, I’m still following along the UGREEN story with interest!
I’ve been pretty happy with my Lincstation N1 (I got in January at the amazing crowd-funding price of £230 ????, rather than the now Amazon price of £400 ????)
It’s got 3 (of 4) 2GB NVMe’s and 1 (of 2) 2GB SATA’s installed and whilst the network/drive performance isn’t amazing, it works more than well enough for basic home NAS requirements (it averages around 15-20W’s and the fan is barely noticeable even in a totally silent room!)
For me in a home environment, low-cost, low-power, lots of functionality (thanks to UNraid) and ‘just enough performance for Plex & home-server stuff’, is more important than worrying about saturating the SATA, NVMe, 2.5Gb, etc limits!!
I’ve (hopefully ????) got a ZimaCube N100 turning up in the next month or so (got from KS for around £430) at which point the N1 will likely be sold on. The ZC probably won’t be ‘twice’ as useful as the N1 (at almost double the cost), but the 10-bay (6x 3.5″ +4x NVMe) drive capacity, should see me fine for storage for the foreseeable future. Plus the N100 might be a tiny boost over the N5105, and I can increase the memory to 32GB (vs the fixed 16GB in the N1)
In future, I think I could see the value of a higher performance CPU (more processing power and especially more PCIe lanes).
Thanks again for all your fantastic NAS coverage (I think you are the GO TO source on YT for this sort of thing ????????)
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Quick tech question, why don’t people use powered screwdrivers any more? Is there a technical reason?
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Did you hire a new video editor? This video had a few weird glitches in it 🙂
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Thunderbolt 40g is often thrown around like it’s that speed per port. But it’s often 40 total throughput. So your discovery of 20 per port is pretty typical to how most thunderbolt operates.
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cwwk 7840hs followup video when?
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Great video update! Thank you! Feel a little more confident with the kickstarter
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kickstarter is the dealbreaker. we’ll see after retail.
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It would be great to have 8 drive version even if only 1x or 2x lanes. 4 is a bit too low, nvmes don’t have that much capacity.
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Just glad that we can install 3rd party OS if UGOS isn’t up to the job. Question – in Truenas/Unraid or whatever software you install, are you able to use the USB4/Thunderbolt 4 like normal?
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Sold until learning thunderbolt can’t be used for networking. What a miss
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hi, which os for the NAS ?
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Do you need to still pull the m.2 to install 3rd party?
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*IMPORTANT UPDATES* – 1) Power Consumption Tests were removed from this video, as an update to the system services has changed the results and will be revisited in another video very soon. 2) PCIe Lane allocation is under re-investigation, as in post-production I noticed an 8GT/s x4 downgrade that I need to check was unrelated to the tested drive vs system lane allocation. 3) UGREEN states that system optimization is still ongoing and the 10GbE SMB performance will be better in the next large update.
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I agree with you on two factor security being key. I am going to get a unit ones your pleased. I am 84 years old, Physicist, am spend 54 years working on Eglin AFB.
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I never understood why companies need to make their devices exlusive. What difference does it make if they use it for A, B, C or D? Especially if you let them do them all, they’ll buy. If they can’t, you’re closing the door to purchasers…
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is it possible to replace the OS on this like you can on QNAP swapping it out with unraid or TrueNAS?
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What are the physical dimensions?
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Is there possible to install synology on that ugreen? If yes I buy now ????
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sadly you like to hear yourself talking way to much…40 min for this test is crazy.
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An AV1 transcode test would be fantastic! Alder Lake has AV1 decode in hardware so normally it should be able to transcode to h264 and AV1 is surely going to become much popular in the future. Really important for future proofing your setup as many devices don’t support AV1 decode yet.
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howdy… the NAS has a hdmi port to connect directly to a TV. can you test PLEX PLayer performance also, and how to control it directly from a TV? My Current plex server, a 2011 mac mini, sits direclty under my tv, and needs replacing… it works both as a Plex server to other devices, but also as plex player for my TV as it is a shady brand and hasn’t got a plex client.
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You’re so cool, I love you.
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I was interested in the 4bay or 6bay options… The 3dP OS capability does not look important compared to their inability to provide delivery to some countries on the planet *apart from two (2!)*… That, also coupled with a strange KickStarter-only nice price, looks like another blatant cashgrab, like several other KickStarter projects.
This is definitely not befitting a company with more than 10yrs presence on the market – it creates a bad precedence for their future product lines and it is a valid reason for many people to stay away .
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Upvoting for content quality and Monty Python audio vibes <3
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Third-party OS is a big deal for me. I’m not buying it.
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0:00: ⚙️ Overview of UGREEN NASync NAS performance and multimedia capabilities.
4:37: ???? Hardware transcoding optimizes video file conversion on NAS devices, enhancing performance and quality for users.
8:54: ⚙️ Testing system performance by playing 4K files and transcoding to 1060p resolution.
13:33: ⚙️ System performance tested with multiple files, maintaining stable utilization levels.
18:12: ⚙️ Comparison of playback performance on different systems with varying hardware capabilities.
22:24: ⚙️ System performance analysis during multiple file playback and hardware transcoding.
26:49: ⚙️ Converting high-density files from h.265 to h.264 to maintain quality and speed up playback.
31:25: ⚙️ Evaluation of 8K file conversion performance using software transcoding in UGREEN NASync NAS PLEX TESTS.
36:13: ⚙️ Plex performance on UGREEN NAS devices needs optimization for handling 8K multimedia.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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Thanks for the vid, but completely pointless as it’s only attractive at a kickstarter price and only 2 countries in the world can get that …
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wow, ugreen spends a lot of money into marketing this through youtubers. too bad, i almost really liked this channel.
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check please how much power eating this system. Because on KS I found weird information about it
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Happy to see these results! I was more interested on the hardware than software since finding out that there is a way to install 3rd party OS on this UGreen NAS. My main use case will be as a media server. Even if the software won’t be that great at the beginning, as long as it somehow works like the docker app on this video… I’ll be fine by it. I know my way through ssh and terminal and I feel confident enough I can make it work for my intended use. Hopefully… ????
I backed the 8-bay version btw during Super Early Bird pricing. I also have a lifetime Plex license. I’m not going to abuse this NAS as much as you did so I should be fine getting this. ????
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Aquatia NIC? Nope, I’m out. I have nothing but problems with that 10GBbe NIC. Maybe Ugreen does too. ????
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Thanks Robbie! I think more RAM would definitely improve the CPU performance and SSDs as Cache would add more reliable throughput at higher resolutions. I’ve supported the 4800 Plus and plan to add both NVME and 32GB RAM hardware upon receipt… Keep Smiling! No Seagulls!
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4800 was never meant for 8K – on kickstarter it clearly says 48xx series is for 4K only – for 8K you need to get the 6800 series (6 bay version)
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Hey Robbie, any news about immutable snapshots or 2FA? Trying to decide whether or not to take the plunge.
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I wish you would have compared the results with other past Nas ones you have done. How does this stack up against the current Nas’s Plex performance wise?
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Two things;
1. Please show us how well and if tho photo backup works. Is it similar to Synology?
2. Retest the 8k with at least 16gb of RAM.
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Could you do a more in detail video about the power consumption of this NAS?
Especially with them releasing further updates.
It kind of felt very high. But then again, it could be getting better with updates on the software.
I dont think the cpu is taking all that much power theirself.
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I like UGreen NAS then any other manufactures.
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ty finally i didnt want to put money down until i saw a test at least
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What are some good alternatives for DXP4800 plus from Synology? I like synology better and would like to put my money in who is in the industry for a longer period?
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Can it be installed also on the smallest NAS they offer?
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Pretty sure h.265 (hevc) and h.264 are both licensed thru MPEG-LA even though open source implementations exist. They allow end users free use, but charge for professional use and inclusion in commercial products.
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Nice to see promised important things implemented from Ugreen. Docker is “must have” on hardware like this. Thank you for test.
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I’ve backed the 8 bay, but at the moment I’m trying to spec out a W680 build with Quick Sync, ECC, and IPMI, so I may end up canceling the pledge, as losing ECC and IPMI isn’t worth saving $500 or so to me, when the storage alone will cost me a ton.
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If Mr Ugreen happens to return I’d like to know, as would tens of thousands of others, how long it might be before they fulfil those 9,200 NAS orders from the Kickstarter. Only then we will have even a starting idea how long it might be before they allow people from anywhere other than the US and Germany to consider if we can look at these. I’ll probably end up building my own or getting a Terra Master, but if we were talking another 2-3 months I would be interested. Pricing will also bean issue as being excluded from the Kickstarter will have left a foul taste. I was really impressed with the detail in this video, and with the results – the hardware I think we all agreed appeared very good, the software appears to be making some good progress.
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Finally someone focuses on something that matters to me rather than their software “issues”.
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yeah great as fast as yo tube allows so same in 4K on my ig NAS
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Love seeing that the software is coming along, thanks for taking such early tests
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Great video!
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Glad to see Ugreen updating their NAS’s UI. But I can’t wait for the NASCompares’ Ugreen vs Qnap vs Synology video. IMO I’d rather pay the extra $20-30 and get a near-spec-equivalent Qnap NAS. Qnap UI and app store are solid and worth the few extra bones. I love Ugreen cables, chargers, and battery banks but them entering the NAS market is just weird. The NAS market is going to be tough for Ugreen because there’s already a NAS for pretty much every budget. My biggest question, if Ugreen fails and abandons their NAS systems, how easy is it to install TrueNAS and replace their OS?
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There was no hw acceleration active on the 8k file, could be a limitation of the chip itself.
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Yeah not being able to use my own choice of nas or raid software and being stuck with using an unfinished proprietary software that no one wants combined with performance issues makes this a hard NOPE. Run away, do not pass go, go straight to e-waste pile, and keep your money for something better.
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Plex is not as good as Emby… Why are you so into Plex?
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12th Gen T.T Intel T.T oh god
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Cries in Australian
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If they refuse to allow 3rd-party OSs on this hardware, that’s an absolute deal breaker. If I can’t install my own Unraid, TrueNAS, Ubuntu, Windows, etc. on it, it’s absolutely worthless to me.
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How would this performance compare with a native Plex app? Do you think performance would improve?
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UGreen NAS is on fire recently ????????
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Looks like each of the slowdowns was where you ran out of memory and perhaps used swap? Or am I missing something and there is a reason you are ignoring the 100% me,Roy utilization that matches the CPU “hangs” you called out?
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Great to see that the announced updates are coming in. Can’t wait for my system to arrive in June (hopefully).
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You mentioned that you were testing it stock with 8GB DDR5 RAM and no NVME SSDs installed for cache. The system utilization during the multiple 4K transcoding at showed the RAM maxed out and the 8K transcoding obliterated the CPU, but it would have been more conclusive determining a true CPU bottleneck if more RAM and NVME SSDs were installed. A PC will hang when it runs out of RAM so the CPU can write parts of the memory back to storage. Will you be testing with 16GB or 32GB RAM in dual channel and M.2 NVME SSDs for cache?
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Lets say my Avatar has built-in subtitles, will the plex client on my nVidia shield be able to access them if the 4k file is transcoded to 1080p? Will I have to export them before hand (.idx .srt…) to have them always available? The Ugreen 6 bay makes my legs weak at the knee. But only US and Germany in the Kickstarter… Bollocks to that!
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Since ugreen have been sending out what seems like finished products when will they officially start selling them?
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Bloody brilliant!
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Hi!
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Great review. Thanks. I 100% with the crowd funding. Plus, it isn’t available now and I need one now. Any suggestions? Using it as a LLM backup. Currently 60TB. NEED MORE lol
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I saw another review stating you can actually install third party os with no issues including windows but the way you do it is you have to disable the ugos by either renaming the partition temporarily or otherwise and then the bios will allow you to boot from any other device you have installed or plugged it. You “trick” it into thinking the ugos (ugreen os) isn’t working
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The only channel that I follow for a real talk on NAS without the marketing BS
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I want that hoodie
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I know the constant use of the word “Utilised” is intentional – to cater to American audiences’ distorted English. But it does grate!
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I’m interested in the 8 bay variant as I currently have a 4 bay synology and when that fills up I’m going to need more bays. Im hoping for something where I can still slowly upgrade the storage one drive at a time like the synology. Im wondering if the OS or an alternate one can support that since this seems a better value than getting a synology 8 bay.
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Looking at the KS page, it seems this is only shipping to USA & Germany, so can’t actually back it in the UK
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I still cannot realize how fast and hard british you speak but I still understand everything you say…
Let’s say I completely agree with you about the total madness about how UG started to sell this equipment.
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Phenomenal review. Being the first time considering buying a nas what is your opinion on buying this or something else instead?
I want to finally centralise my file system but it does become incredibly confusing.
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hi @nascompares someone made a video on how to install a custom os to ugreen nas… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc6tcfn6ukw can you try it?
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I want one but still no offer for uk!
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Thank you You have answered all my questions.
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Just watched aChair Leg’s vid and this vid back-to-back and read the comments here; I’m impressed at how decent quality these NAS boxes are for place-n-go even if the software side of things is still cooking, especially with how expensive Synology and such are for their hardware offerings.
Like; for the price of a 4-6 bay Synology NAS in AUD, I can get the 10TB HDD’s to fill that and pair them with the Z77/i7-3770K rig I just got laying around waiting for a rebuild and to be brought back to life, and have a better performance than whatever low-power chip Synology uses. Sure it’d be heavier on the power bill to use the 3770K, but it’ll be easier to troubleshoot and fix the problem.
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Have you tried running proxmox on it and virtualizing unraid/truenas? That would be promising if it could.
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Amazingn video! I was actually considering getting this but after seeing the crowfund status, your reviews and some comments here seems im not the user for this product right now.
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Yeah, no 3rd party is a deal breaker!
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I already have a WD Nas. Its my first, and I can tell you now, there is next to zero chance I’ll ever by another HDD one. Assuming this lasts two or three years, it just doesn’t make sense to be buying the things now for normal people. Not now that there are SSD NAS solutions, and those make no noise* and support more than enough storage.
A daydream NAS for me would be a mini-PC shaped box with 4 NVME slots, and a space in it for my choice of 120/140mm fan so I can choose one like a Noctua which is quiet.
*yes, I realise its not zero noise, but if its quiet enough I don’t notice it, it may as well be.
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Better hardware, average or below average software! I always come to this conclusion whenever I try to compare anything with Synology.
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Really you started with officers’ call for your highlight music? lol
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Does anyone know the idle power consumption of the just SSD version?
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Does anyone know the idle power consumption of the just SSD version?
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All flash unit seems to be ripe for modding into monster spinning rust device with some m.2 to sata adapters.
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I was unhappy about the crowdfunding but interested in the hardware. I was a click away from buying until I stopped and saw what UGREEN did with 3rd Party OS. They are cutting out the group that would be the most excited about what (hardware) value they’re bringing.
No one should be forced to backup data on an unproven OS with a promise of future software updates. What disappointing decisions and response by UGREEN.
Big thanks to @nascompares for the thorough review. Glad I checked your channel before making a mistake.
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the 40% early bird discount is what got me to back this product. I have a Ryzen 2700x from a prior system of mine that is mostly sitting unused. I would just need need a new a case and motherboard, preferably RAM as well, but being able to lock in $600 for a six-bay NAS is incredible.
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Thanks for the review. The hardware looks great, and the price is nice. I’m in the market for a new NAS this year.
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I want to see the review of the DXP8800 Plus please.
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With the photos backup from the phone, does it allow you to move the photos from your phone to the nas and then allow you to remove the photo from your phone without removing it from the nas ? I can’t recall if the terminology for this is a backup or a sync or something else.
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US and DE only? Maaaan….guess I am going the mini-PC + DAS route when Lunarlake drops????
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I’ve been burned in crowdfunding too many times. I’ll wait until it’s widely available before I consider it.
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I secured my 40% off rewards on Kickstarter. If they don’t announce their software fixes by the close of the campaign, I’m cancelling it.
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This NAS is made in China.. Unless you are ok to share your personal photos and privacy with someone in China and let CCP to monitor your daily activities, go ahead ????????????
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The move here is to put truenas scale on it and call it a day, probably makes a perfectly competent truenas box, and you get all of the features you could ever want, probably more performant too
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Your are not reviewing the 4800 but the 4800 Plus.
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Crowdfunding hasn’t just been ‘indie’ for long long long time. I take it you haven’t used kickstarter in a long time, if ever. No idea why you are so worked up about that.
For a first product in an area they have never been the crowdfunding approach allows them long lead up to marketing and not to guess as to what the demand will be and then over or under produce product. It provides them channel for invested user input long before the product ships that they wouldn’t have otherwise. And finally, it allows for cash to fund the development ahead of time that they would never get from just listing it anywhere else.
You also seem to be thinking Ugreen is Google or Microsoft as far as resources go. That they can have all the data in the world and all the dev funds they need to do anything. Obviously not the case.
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I just bought a Terramaster F403 and I would ABSOLUTELY buy that 4bay model as an upgrade but ONLY if it supported TrueNAS Scale.
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33:30 38:11 These are not beta issues.
UGreen NASes were manufactured for a non-English market and did not successfully sell. Their kickstarter is a well-veiled fire sale; project -rewardees- backers beware.
Nice video ???? great YT channel. Thank you.
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U know- id not like to think it but its interesting if the rollout is limited due to privacy concerns in europe and other countries? Or do u think thats unrelated?????????????✌️
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what would a decaffeinated episode look like?
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5 core? 6 threads??? How, what, I’m so curious what is under the hood of that CPU
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6 Bay for 600 bucks is so tempting that I might just spring for it. This was a fantastic in depth review and I greatly appreciate you making it!
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Interesting, but will wait for the AMD version.
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Now that it is confirmed we can install 3rd party OS the question is why did you had problems to install one while others said it is possible without any problem?
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I just saw another YouTuber said if you rename the efi partition you can install other OS and it will stop looking for the ugos upon reboot. Robby can you try that and see if it solves the boot issue?? This sounds promising.
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I like this NAS, but compared to the Synology that uses a 12cm fan that is easily replaceable, the ugreen uses a rather custom fan that can be potentially hard to replace if it fails
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ugreen, ugreen, ugreen … everywhere, everytime … I can smell a huge marketing campaign.
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Kickstarter won’t even let me order it for some reason… not a great start
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Just too expensive for me, especially their predicted retail pricing. Why not offer 2-tier pricing – 1) lower bare bones prices for tech enthusiasts who want to install their own storage, ram, and os; (limited hardware warranty); 2) full pricing for complete units with their software suite and full warranty support. Most customers would go with full retail packages once the software is finished. The hobbyists would buy the bare bones units starting NOW, I’d venture, and probably aid Ugreen with debugging hardware and firmware niggles before a full retail launch. Seems like a win for Ugreen, unlike their stupid kickstarter.
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Any Statements/Info about a Container App and (K)VM? Why else have an i5 in the NAS
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“That’s what my therapist says”
LOL That explains a lot :o)
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Great… Put your data on a pure Chinese NAS…. what can go wrong ????????????????
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Would there be any benefits/possibilities of running XPEnology bootloader on this platform (i5 gen12) and boot DSM 7 ?
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You based in the UK?
I ask because there is a lot of reviews of things we cant get here in the UK or have limited access to such as no shipping from this particular kickstarter. Why support the brands that don’t a support your entire audience that ultimately support you? Disappointment in both UGREEN here and sadly a little bit with yourself although i appreciate why you’d cover it. At Kickstarter pricing it looks to be worth it, especially if you can stick your own OS on there. At retail with the shambles of an OS to work around, just no.
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Hm, these are really attractively priced right now. I’m torn between one of these or the synology I’ve been looking at for a while.
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Question: Have you enable jumbo frames on your OS NIC settings? Thx
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Hi! Does anyone know if UGOS (and the NAS box) will support “surveillance cameras” – and if so, does it come with perpetual camera licenses and if yes on licenses, how many? Thanks much … love the NASCOMPARES channel! 🙂
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I checked preoder page and price is similar to existing nases. Yes it hase more upgradability and potential abilities, byt its still not finished. I will not pay, at a “discount”, as well as for an existing product for something that I do not even know how it will turn out.
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I don’t get why UGREEN tries to create it’s own shitty NAS OS, they could just ship them with truenas.
Would cost them less money and software would be so much better.
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Can you do an iperf3 to test the network speed of the 10GBe connection? Please? ????????
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It rubs really wrong that I’m locked out of 40% discount.
I live in Asia and the discounted price is really good value, plus the hardware design looks modern unlike some NAS.
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I think I understand UGREENs strategy and reasoning.
– Choosing Kickstarter for checking how high the interest in the product is because it’s a very well known name. My guess is that they didn’t fully realise that that is not Kickstarters main use. Probably because their from China.
– Only starting with 2 regions (the USA and Germany) as essentially beta testers of the hardware and software. If anything goes horribly wrong there are not that many units they have to take care of.
– Launching all these different products at the same time is also probably because they want all of them tested on.
– And the 40% discount if for exactly that. As a compensation for buying a not fully finished experience and essentially helping out with finding the leftover bugs.
– Probably chose Germany because it’s in the center of Europe and they can then utilize that when they fully release it to the other markets. And as a German myself I think we do tend to overanalyze and give a lot of feedback. So they probably wanted that.
All in all I think their plan is actually pretty solid. But some miscommunication internally and externally led to quite a lot of confusion.
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I actually only found out AFTER “buying” the NAS that they only ship to US and Germany. Good that I live in Germany. But I find it really random. Didn’t expect Germany to be so high up on the ladder
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The crowd-funding scam should be stopped by legislation somehow; the Chinese, in many forms, now abuse this to take people’s money upfront to use to pay for tooling costs and marketing. I’d never back this, and the spirit should be for startups, and only then should be a token amount to judge market potential. a NAS is not a new product to the market it’s a well established device. I woulnd’t touch their NAS if was given free I woulnd’t trust their OS Chinese software typically is shite. I really like Ugreen cables and some of their small accessories, they competed against ANKER both trying to landgrab every market segment as they can. Many of their products are not made by themselves but from others and badged up as own brand. This is common practice no company no matter how big can’t make everything! I wish them luck they will need it.
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CWWK 7840 follow up when?
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Awesome YT channel ???? Nice videos on UGreen NASes.
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
P.S. Bad price for NAS hardware if locked; good only if unlocked.
P.P.S. UG-OS and its apps not widely seen in the wild long enough to uncover vulnerabilities via pen testing are scary.
P.P.P.S. Whereas UGreen NASes have been on the market for some time already (including on aliexpress right now for full retail price) but not here in the West. These are not “made-from-scratch a.k.a. clean slate” O/S and hardware builds.
P.P.P.P.S. It matters not about the established branding of UGreen; other diligence is needed. Their branding is Ok for code-free products like their USB cables, GAN chargers, docking stations, etc.
P.P.P.P.P.S. A kickstarter alone unlikely funds BIOS security updates (e.g. spectre, meltdown, logoFail as past examples). More generally, purchasers tend to overlook this requirement when buying cheap, off-brand PCs, laptops, SFF-USFF thin clients/mini PCs, motherboards . . . and NASes.
P.P.P.P.P.P.S. Is this kickstarter really *a fire sale in disguise of unsold overstock of UGreen NASes previously retailed unsuccessfully in places other than the West?* Down the road, I shall be delighted if UGreen turns out to be a long-term player in NASes.
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Which NAS would you guys recommend for photos and videos only? That’s all I want to use it for. Ugreen or any other company.
Thanks
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I am a video editor. Which SSD’s would you suggest adding to this?
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Will only buy if it does Plex with transcoding. Trying to consolidate and move away from wifes old gaming PC. An all in one purpose built media server that runs PLEX server and its data is IDEAL. So surprised theres no app for it out the gate.
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Why does the spec sheet list that the 2 bay and 4 bay use 32gig EMMC OS drives? I won’t buy devices that use soldered EMMC storage.
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Totally agree with everything, love your passion on the matter btw.
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I need 3rd party os support. Ugreen is Chinese and I’m not trusting their operating system with my personal stuff. Look at anker with their security camera stuff. These companies are untrustworthy.
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The Brits don’t deserve good nas.
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aChair Leg was able to load another OS successfully onto this NAS, not sure if you’d want to check out his video and see if his steps were any different to yours – they did Pop! OS, but I still really want to see how TrueNAS or unRaid work on this
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Why the hell they only send to USA and Germany ?!
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5:32 Priceless ???? I completely agree that UGREEN trying to prevent installing other OSes on their box are shooting themselves in the foot. It’s simple, UGREEN: don’t support, but also don’t interfere. It’s interesting though that you @nascompares were not able to run any other OS successfully on the device. aChair Leg (PopOS) and TwoGuyzTech reported that it was possible. The key is to disable the Watchdog in the BIOS completely. I’ve seen Watchdog screen in your video, but I’m not sure whether you tried to disable it. To get to the BIOS (which you did) aChair Leg removed the original SSD from the slot and TwoGuyzTech renamed the EFI folder to sth different, that the UEFI BIOS will not automatically try to boot from.
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with all our complaint, these guys have hit $3M in 24hours over their asking $20K… are they gonna listen now or its just “take my money already” crowd will be fine with whatever? lol
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They should’ve sold the thing without the software.
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I tried backing this and realised I can’t from the UK 🙁
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I agree it is very weird the way this is going. The Ugreen DX4600 has been in retail in China for over a year now, and the DX4600Pro has been for 5 months. That means they absolutely have market analytics and they are not developing their OS from the ground up. Why pretend?
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A very stressful video
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Thank you for being an advocate for the 3rd party OS support . Hopefully enough push from the community will make them reconsider their stance and allow anything to be installed easily.
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Wow, thank you for the extensive test. But if 3rd party software doesn’t work this a 100% total no go.
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Isn’t this a Chinese ripoff of Synology? No third-party OS – bacause it prevents Chinese snooping?
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Fuck it. I ordered the 8 bay for $899. In 2019 I bought my DS918+ for $547.99, so hardware wise the 8 bay is a steal at that price. I’ll probably end up flashing TrueNAS Scale or UnRAID on it anyway, but I’m planning to just sit on the hardware for a while until I can get good prices on the large capacity Iron Wolf Pro drives in different batches, so they may have the software sorted out by then. It’s absolutely unusable to me without Docker.
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Unlike Synology you can’t set it up to have the option to upgrade the size of some hard drives. Game changer!
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Fuck it. I just backed the 8 bay model. I bought my DS918+ for $547.99 in 2019, so hardware wise, the 8 bay is an absolute steal for $899. I will probably just throw TrueNAS Scale / Unraid on it anyway. Hopefully these issues you’ve had doing that are ironed out by the actual release.
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If they allowed 3rd party OS or if it was possible, I would buy it. But since this is not possible, I am gonna wait a bit longer.
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I am happy you say something. I might be able to reach them over skype, if I still have their contact. I suggested a external hdd 3.5″ enclosure few years ago that can use more then 1 drive. It seems they went from usb hdd enclosure wirh 2 hdd to making a full fledged NAS.
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If I buy it, it is for use with Ubuntu. No other NAS allows it
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Unable to purchase and get a discount because of region, unable to jailbreak, and half baked OS. This product is dead to me. I don’t even care if it’s a beta. Why would any company expose themselves with negative user experience due to the only half baked OS on this product? Typical CN marketing. It looks like Jonsbo will do for our next build.
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I love the hardware but locking my data in a proprietary only OS system is a hard no for me. There will be widely available standalone nas boards with 10gbe soon enough.
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Disappointingly, Ugreen is shipping to Germany and the US only
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The aesthetic, power, form factor, and hardware choices are fantastic. If they allowed 3rd party operating systems even if it did void the warranty, it would still be worth it to me as a cheap simple yet pleasing solution to pair with my Synology.
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Thanks for this. Not sure how I missed the boat about that 40% discount but that alone has gotten me very interested in this, so it seems I have less than 24 hours to decide if I want to pull the trigger or not.
For that price with that hardware, I’m considering just getting the 8 bay and sitting on it a while until I can get good prices on drives and give them time to sort out the software etc. or reverse the decision about voiding the warranty if you install another OS. It’s completely unusable for me without Docker anyway, as I do everything with Docker Compose.
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I would be after a 10 bay and until those become standard i will keep making my own. I do own 2x 8 bay synology. 1x12bay rack qnap, 20xbay custom unraid NAS.
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The 2 or 4 bay N100 version would’ve probably been perfect for me. Great looking and compact design, just the right hardware (1 m.2 for cache, 1 m.2 for Coral TPU and 2-4 drives for array/parity – and the Intel N100 is probably plenty powerfull enough (it can handle many IP-camera’s for Frigate)) and for that price! But no shipping to the Netherlands, lackluster 3rd-parth OS support (I don’t want my NAS that I want to do all the things with, run some first attempt OS) and questionable power use/efficiency (I’ve seen Intel i3/i5 systems use less power in idle than a lot of N100 based systems using the well known (BIOS) settings etc.)
I’m probably going to build my own system with i3; compared to this basically none of the mentioned drawbacks, apart from design (not many similar nice looking, compact and somewhat affordable cases available here) and price (those Ugreen N100 versions are REALLY cheap!)
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The 2 or 4 bay N100 version would’ve probably been perfect for me. Great looking and compact design, just the right hardware (1 m.2 for cache, 1 m.2 for Coral TPU and 2-4 drives for array/parity – and the Intel N100 is probably plenty powerfull enough (it can handle many IP-camera’s for Frigate)) and for that price! But no shipping to the Netherlands, lackluster 3rd-parth OS support (I don’t want my NAS that I want to do all the things with, run some first attempt OS) and questionable power use/efficiency (I’ve seen Intel i3/i5 systems use less power in idle than a lot of N100 based systems using the well known (BIOS) settings etc.)
I’m probably going to build my own system with i3; compared to this basically none of the mentioned drawbacks, apart from design (not many similar nice looking, compact and somewhat affordable cases available here) and price (those Ugreen N100 versions are REALLY cheap!)
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Thanks for the update. I’m cancelling my early bird payment and buying Synology sd1821+.
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Thanks for the update. I’m cancelling my early bird payment and buying Synology sd1821+.
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A big put off for me is the first party OS only. UGREEN is not known as a software developer. Would love to watch a follow up review video if UGREEN makes some significant updates during the crowd funding campaign!
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A big put off for me is the first party OS only. UGREEN is not known as a software developer. Would love to watch a follow up review video if UGREEN makes some significant updates during the crowd funding campaign!
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Welp, let’s do this rodeo one more time after the Storaxa debacle. I’m in for the 6-bay option. Got most of my money back after filing claims, so at least at ease a bit more to be hurt again if this fails lol. Though seeing as you have multiple units on hand, this is leaps and bounds well beyond what Storaxa could even make up and lie about at this point considering we have reviews before the campaign started.
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Welp, let’s do this rodeo one more time after the Storaxa debacle. I’m in for the 6-bay option. Got most of my money back after filing claims, so at least at ease a bit more to be hurt again if this fails lol. Though seeing as you have multiple units on hand, this is leaps and bounds well beyond what Storaxa could even make up and lie about at this point considering we have reviews before the campaign started.
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We can’t rely on them being an established brand AND launch stuff via crowd funding. I wouldnt be trusting my valuable data to crowd funding. Either you’re in and invested in a full solution or not.
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We can’t rely on them being an established brand AND launch stuff via crowd funding. I wouldnt be trusting my valuable data to crowd funding. Either you’re in and invested in a full solution or not.
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I got a fashtor 6 and I’m really liking it.
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I got a fashtor 6 and I’m really liking it.
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Thanks for this video. You convinced me not to buy it via crowd funding. Even with the discounts it is too expensive to not be the NAS I want it to be. Not supporting third party OS is a big problem for me given my other options.
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I really want that hardware but not to lose my warranty if I put truenas on it .. i’d probably end up turning the watchdog off in the bios, replacing the SSD with a new one to preserve the original OS, putting truenas on a new one. But I don’t want to support a company that would do that either. Others have gotten truenas to work. (Not this model) Thank you as always for giving us a open honest review and opinion. I will wait to see what else comes out.
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I really really want to love the system but not having availability in my country or at leat know that I can’t have the discount really just beaks my desire to try it out. For the full price, there are many options and tbh the maturity versus qnap or synology is a very steong point against but I can’t really justify to just tey it when the 40%+ discount is never going to be available for me..
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Being in the UK, I am sort of pleased that we cannot join the crowdfund, so I am not to tempted to try and get the low price.
There is no reason that this needs to be crowdfunded, Ugreen has the funding to develop the software and design the hardware already. What they should have done is got the software sorted with the prototype units for review and perhaps taken pre-orders based on the reviews of the final product instead. They are probably scared about being stuck with all these devices unsold.
And is it really that much cheaper (full price) than the existing competition which has known working software and a history of updating it? Why would I risk my data to an unknown? I know it’s not your backup but it is your main source locally and if it’s flaky you are still screwed.
It has 10gig networking, but I expect most people buying the smaller units don’t have 10gig right now so would need to by new cards to make use of it (£70-100 per PC? + switches).
Finally, regarding the chargebacks, the last crowdfunding I did was the CoolerMaster Pi4 case which they screwed up by making the pinouts reversed on the final product. Tried to get a refund via KickStarter, they argued that as the product was delivered there was no reason for a refund, then went to AMEX and they said the same thing. So don’t rely on the chargeback option Ugreen could release a useless product and if they deliver you are stuck with it.
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I wonder if the reason they are so adamant about their OS is because they plan to introduce subscription services like everyone else on earth.
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Kickstarter is at 2.5 million so looks like they hit the target lol. With 44 days left I hope they will have enough built to fulfill the first orders.
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You are awesome man! I love the reference to Dodge Ball!!!!!! “I am SHOCKED, Cotton!” You helped me a lot to decide on a NAS. Thank you!
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I would probably got one if it wasn’t limited to US and Germany but oh well
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At least in the US, the Magnuson Moss laws state that the manufacturer has to prove that what was changed harmed the hardware, the fact that they’re stating they won’t cover hardware if you install a 3rd party config is just asinine. Any potential hardware failures would come from overheating a component, which is likely protected by the bios. This is a hard pass, and their lack of willingness to listen to community feedback just goes to show that. You can add to that the fact they are pushing these things out to channels for review, I mean, WTAF is wrong with them. The corporate speak instead of actual answers from your interview with the product manager again is a non starter for me.
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The specs on the Kickstarter indicate there is an “x4” PCIe expansion slot.
Has UGREEN confirmed that this a PCIe 4.0×4 slot? Or is it PCIe 3.0×4. Either is great to see, but UGREEN failed to specify. -_-
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Great video. I agree with all your points and have the same vibe. I’m into this, but at the same time, it’s so frustrating.
Glad to see they’re not voiding the hardware warranty for using a 3rd party OS. Though, I’d really like to see more clarification on how they decide that a 3rd party OS has damaged the unit, as that might not be covered, versus a covered hardware failure.
This still needs to be clarified a bit further, I think.
And really, if installing a third party OS isn’t going to void the hardware warranty, they should make it as trivial as possible. Pull out all the BIOS watchdog stuff or put up a help doc on exactly how ti disable it. No regular user is going to be calling Ugreen for help after accidentally installing TrueNAS. That … just can’t happen.
Given how much the EU/EC has been in the news this week going after Apple and others for alleged anti-consumer behavior, I’m a bit surprised to see Ugreen being this cagey while launching in *Germany*.
I’ve got ZFS backing TrueNAS and Proxmox here, across … 4 servers. Since the Ugreen OS doesn’t support ZFS, I can’t use it as a replication destination for backups, which is a big functional reason I want to put TrueNAS on it.
The startling immaturity of the OS (including, hugely, not being able to saturate a 10Gbps NIC with that many drives), well … I feel like we’re being asked to spend a ton of money to partake in an en masse semi-public beta. If they want to lock users into their software, it should at least be feature complete on launch, and it’s hard to imagine they’re going to get it there when their team of 200 engineers apparently still hasn’t managed to fully localize the OS (hello, random Chinese text in the settings menus; I guess you’re supposed to have Google’s camera translator on your phone active when you set things up).
All that said, I backed it. We need hardware like this on the market. Asustor and Terramaster are still pushing Celeron N5105s at this tier, and even TrueNAS Minis are starting to show their age w/r/t expandability and features vs. cost.
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Can you add a GPU to any of these?
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The biggest thing for me is like Synology SHR raid. The ability to mix and match hard drives is important for me. I hope it’s released when the product is released.
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I want this campaign to do well, then buy one second hand in a couple of years once the software is polished off and they’ve depreciated a bit.
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Only folks from Germany and US are able to order this NAS at this moment. ????
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Robbie – Try decaf. LOL.
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The moment i realized that i didn’t put the play speed to 2x ….and you were talking so fast….
But u want to thank❤ you so much for all your Nas compares Videos!????
I watched so many in the last weeks (because of thinking to buy a new one) and i learned a lot and had some great AHA Moments. You explain everything very well and it’s fun to watch them???????? thx for all your efforts.
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Honestly I am not worried about 3rd party OS… the more they’ll try to lock it the more community will try to hack it… they may learn the hard lesson like Sony and others… and no one would even look back at their OS
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Why are so many YouTube creators “reviewing” UGREEN products that are nowhere near ready use?? This about the 10th UN-REVIES I’ve seen in 2 days. Thumbs down.
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They just made 1.5 million dollars on kickstarter in 2 hours.
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I was going to purchase one of these. After seeing your initial impressions, I was hoping for it to be more energy efficient, but I can get over that. The irony of it not being energy efficient with the name Ugreen. Lol When I heard the interview with Ugreen I thought, it’s pretty lame to void the warranty if I used Unraid, but if the hardware was good and inexpensive, I could risk it. Now, after seeing they are blocking the use of it altogether. No thanks! I will just build my next one. Thanks for the thorough coverage of this release. I was initially excited about this one, but Ugreen dropped the ball…
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Love it when you lose it! 🙂
I think all your points are valid. UGREEN is NOT an idie title, them going crowdfunding is weird …
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Great that they might chase Synology to make a follow up on the DS 1522, with at least a 2.5 GBit ethernet, able to expand to 10 GBitE or more. Ugreen might be good, but I am a bit sceptical about the security and stability, so I think I will wait a bit longer to replace my ds 918. I think I would miss SHR as well. Hope for better competition in those fields.
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Ugreen is cutting the price because they are funded with kickstarter money?
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Amazing review as usual!
Regarding mobile app photos backup, does it allow you to choose which folders on phone to backup? Or does it simply back up everything?
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I kickstarted two 6 bays from them. Here is the bottom line on this product that will define this as a success or failure. This thing has to come out the gate with the option to support all other OS platforms. Esp TrueNas and Unraid.
And let’s be clear, if they burn thousands of customers who spent hundreds and it will have ripple effects this company will never get over. They have never done software and compute like this, so getting it wrong will send this company in the wrong direction they are trying to go.
If they release a half baked platform and OS, they will never ever be trusted as a NAS company.
If however they support 3rd party, while building there own NAS OS, they stand a chance at competing with the likes of Synology and QNAP down the line. But seeing the reviews as I have, there is zero way I could tell a first time NAS buyer to buy from this company.
I am hopeful they will agree to allow Unraid. If they dont agree before I can cancel, then I will.
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I already hate this product because of Ugreen launch policy, a NOGO for me . Thank you for the great review
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Please more coverage on this. Just ordered the 8 bay nas
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This is amazing!
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Is that Jonathan Pryce singing ?
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THANKS for your Review and Just FYI…. YouTube UNSUBCRIBED me from your Channel….. AGAIN! But Thanks for the Review!!! Because I was really considering a 6bay as an upgrade to my DS920+. But you HIT the Major Parts that matter to me, the speed…. but what you didn’t hit and I WANT TO KNOW…. Can I expand this device as easy as I can Synology by just placing larger drives in it?
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before I thought they simply don’t support 3rd party software – but now, seeing that it simply does NOT work – no no no
even Asashee linux works on macbooks…
no, never – end of story
I hate such greedy companise that lock you completely
please don’t forget – they till now did NOT exist in this market – a company from China – will everybody trust them with their CLOSED software and hardware? hmm
and if costs 250 – ok but it costs 2x or 3x that
no thank you but no
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My only wish , their software is better then Qnap Security .
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no 3rd party, no chance, for me.
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Well lets hope that their os is better than the constantly wobbly terramaster offering… i got rid of that after 4 failed updates in two years blitzed my data and mot having a degree in linux didnt help..
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Thanks a lot for the content! Pledged, and will follow reviews and worst case will cancel my pledge again.
Something to consider for other peeps as well: You don’t get charged until ~10th may and can cancel no questions asked before that
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awesome video. you’re right – they *SHOULD* have sent a more refined product to reviewers. the hardware not performing to spec as well as UGREEN’s lack of 3rd party OS’s being ABLE to be used is a complete show stopper for me. (i don’t care about the warranty. i don’t care about crowdfunding.) i understand they *MAY* allow 3rd party OS’s in the future, i understand they *MAY* get the hardware preforming as advertised, but as of now, as of the product they have today… I’M OUT. too bad, seemed like a good option.
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Just saw this, and will watch other reviews. Just a question in case you may know.. I live in the US. I have a QNP Nas I LOVE and use it for work. I am looking for a surveillance system for this home I recently bought (and work out of). many standalone camera systems are great, but, interfaces are wonky, and they don’t NEARLY have the processing / memory of something like a NAS. I just don’t want to burden my QNAP with wired camera streams, and so I was looking for a 2-Bay NAS to basically use as a Surveillance system. Do you know if this handles ONVIF cameras I can use? Have you looked at that aspect of the software? Seems like it has great processing power to be a dedicated surveillance system ONLY (as I am looking for) – many standalone systems have bragged they can handle multiple (like 6) 4k streams, and yet, actual reviews are mixed. That’s why I thought about just buying and dedicating a NAS ONLY for that purpose, and this sounds like it COULD be the one. What would you say?
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I wouldn’t even consider this unless it was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than synology. Synology software is magical.
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Probably more eloquently stated by others, but I have to say that the OG NAS companies were churning out under-powered (3 generation old CELERONS) in some expensive products. Suddenly, some new challengers are coming in with products based on much more modern and capable hardware, and the OG teams are going to have to respond in kind. It is nice to see that new NAS options will be based on something with more modern hardware, better upgrade options, and active competitors to keep them all from just resting on their laurels.
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Blocking 3rd party while don’t have a fully developed by themselves…. No thank you.
I was willing to sell my qnap tvs-tvs1288x for it.
Ugreen you guys can keep those ones for you guys.
Maybe ugreen will look they charges to use only ugreen cables lol.
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LMAO. “5 things that f*** me right off about them”, i died.
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Why the hell does not anybody hardware brands out there make a system for 3’rd party OS? Of course you can build a system from ground up , but many, like me, only want to add disks and memory and from there choose OS. Why not NUC for NAS???
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Do these units support RAID?
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I just started syncing the drives in my uGreen. Although the software is clearly early stage, it does seem very promising, given that it doesn’t seem That far behind ADM, which has been in development for Much longer, and as you’ve said, the hardware is Ready … just the software needs a lot more work to match that hardware. Fingers crossed!
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How does the mobile app work for multi user? For example, I want to backup my photos, but also allow my household members to do so as well from mobile app. If they are not admins, will they be seeing everything I’m seeing in the app as well?
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I was debating on the four bay plus versus the six bay pro. I decided to back the six bay pro due to the connectivity of thunderbolt four. The software looks much more refined than the western digital EX4100 I have been using for the last 8+ years. It’s time to replace it, and I was thinking about the Synology however, the lack of M.2 support concerns me. Would you suggest Seagate iron Wolf or WD red drives to populate this?
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Did I understand correctly that even after disabling the watch dog in the bios and everything it still kicks you out of 3rd party operating systems? You haven’t found a way to make it run permanently?
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My primary use case is just for picture and document back ups. Does this allow for cell phone picture back ups from the phone and google photos back up. Love all the reviews but to a new NAS potential user its so confusing….
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0:02: ⚡️ Exploring the strengths and weaknesses of the UGREEN NAS system.
4:12: ???? Established brand UGREEN offers affordable network-attached storage solution with potential.
7:29: ⚠️ Limiting third-party OS options may hinder user engagement and customization potential.
10:17: ⚙️ Challenges in achieving full 10g connection speed due to software limitations and potential hardware bottlenecks.
13:29: ???? Innovative hardware with limited software capabilities and crowdfunding launch concerns.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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I really have no idea what to do lol! I’ve never owned a NAS but I want to buy one but this UGreen thing just seems way to what ifs for me but i don’t want to miss a good price for this thing either! Just not sure what route to take!
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Please ensure that the Thunderbolt standard is FULLY supported by Ugreen????????????????
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Am I the only one who appreciates John Philip Sousa Semper Fidelis cut music? No one else? Maybe because it appeals to our rebellious past????
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I really had to laugh at how fast you were talking and I couldn’t keep up :D. So thanks again for your videos. I’m still wavering between the DXP4800 Plus and the DXP480T Plus. If this really happens that you can put 3rd party software like Unraid or Truenas on it without voiding the warranty then I think it’s a deal breaker for Synology and Qnap. 😀
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Would this be a good option for someone who wants to use Virtual Machines?
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The hardware specs vs Synology NAS. I am going buy the UGREEN as a backup to the backup. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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UGreen can can go F themselves if they deny third party OS… Do you guys think you are effing Apple?
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The 4 bay would definitely somethin I would go for.. BUT I live in NL.. BUT it’s a kickstarter (you could loose your money)… BUT no 3rd party OS.. (and that’s a big one for me)
So 3 reasons not to go for this NAS.. Sorry Ugreen ????
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Since here are a lot more based facts than on other channels – I got a few questions, that got lost in various threads.
1. On the 2 bay model. Since it just has a single 2.5GbE and 2 SATA bays, got the pcie lanes get appropriately repurposed? I’d hope that each m2 gets 2 lanes then.
2. Also on the n100 models – is the eMMC soldered?
3. Power Consumption – it’s a mess. Nobody talked about c states or even tried to minimize the consumption. How low can it get ?
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Hot off my email box… “$1 Million Achieved in Just 38 Minutes!” Yikes, they better deliver or the backlash will be just as hard.
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Why doesn’t someone build something like this that can support any OS. isn’t there anything on the market like this. I’d pay for that.
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I think UGreen does not understand NAS – and selling millions of chargers and cables doesn’t get you any closer. A NAS is used to store data so that it absolutely positively stays protected. Everything else is gravy. Sending out even a review unit that does not support 2FA and immutable snapshots makes it abundantly clear these guys don’t understand this market. Are you willing to bet your $500+ that they will figure it out?
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No 3rd party OS=No sale. YMMW Seriously if I want a locked down NAS I would buy a Synology! I already have an old QNAP with OMV 6 on it and I want to buy a new NAS that I can also install OMV on it. UGREEN if you do not want my money I can give it to another NAS supplier, I just like your hardware.
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Just release a SDK and let the community help, they will have more apps than Synology in no time.
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$1.3 M in 45 minutes with 2,500 backers thus far. Not to shabby????????
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Would you be so kind to clarify if you got Unraid working and only Proxmox was being problematic or are both affected by reboots? I’m not a native English speaker (German) and unsure about that sentence at 6:50 😀
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Wish Qnap have same mobile app
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i was about to pledge the 5 bucks but I’m neither from US or Germany .. and no 3rd party OSs for now, I’ll keep the Terramaster for a while longer
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I am so surprised you did not hammer on the storage device only TB connection. Especially on the All Flash device – I mean what is the point of Flash performance hampered by a single 10GbE speed (and a bottlenecked 10GbE at that). Never mind the unnamed WiFi version (6, 6E, dare we hope 7?). Net net here you get all of the costs and downsides of Flash with none of the performance upside.
Having TB4 hardware without supporting Client connect is the poster child for not thinking the design through, and I’m afraid may signal a lot more less obvious design and software blunders.
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Excellent, excellent, excellent video! And btw, I love seagulls ????
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I can understand the decision to keep it US and Germany only in terms of return logistics, but I still think it’s a shame they didn’t offer it to the rest of the EU at least. It would add to the logistics challanges, but not a lot. afaik there aren’t any outliers in the EU where postage is suddenly a million dollars and the customs is straight forward if you ship from the EU to the EU.
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Yeah, great potential! I’m really got my fingers crossed they’ll make it coz there’s new NASes look and feel very premium, but needs slightly more love on the software side 🙂
I’m gonna a be late with my vid, coz only shot it today 🙂
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les gooo
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In what scenario would you recommend the DXP6800 Pro over the DXP4800 Plus? Storage capacity is not the issue; I’m primarily split between the CPU performance of the Intel Pentium Gold 8505 and the i5-1235U. What capabilities or programs would require the increased CPU performance?
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Let me clarify the crowd funding and limited availability. It’s because of greed. They can gauge the response to the product in limited markets, with a substantial discount, then MILK THE REST OF THE WORLD AND THE FULL LAUNCH FOR EVERY PENNY THEY CAN GET. When this fully launches, it will be a high-end device as the competitors sell early 2000 hardware their products and have become lazy.
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The Kickstarter campaign started 40 minutes ago has already surpassed $1M and 2,000 backers. I think Ugreen NAS will be an outstanding platform because of the community and experts like you providing the developers a ton of feedback.
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12:59 I can see the purpose of doing a region limited beta (especially for concentration of tech support) considering that the software is still far more dough than cookies at this point (even though it still sucks). There’s expectations that a crowdfunding product is rarely feature complete (much less has all the major kinks worked out) when it ships and thus is priced accordingly compared to when that product is launched at retail.
I hope that they eventually decide on not only opening up support for thirds party OSes, but when these units hit eventually hit EOL they open source the firmware Coreboot/Libreboot style.
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I’ve been a beta tester since mid February. They sent me a unit to beta test the software, specifically to report bugs and help them to develop the OS. It definitely needs more time in the oven. I agree with all of your other videos; there is definitely potential. But right now, you are essentially buying into a beta platform where a lot of the fundamentals are broken. I will say though that I also have access to the mobile app, and I think it’s the best way to interact with the NAS.
My main NAS is a DS920+, so my standards are quite high. But I also understand that most people don’t need all of Synology’s bells and whistles. That’s why I want this to succeed. But right now, I cannot in good conscience suggest that people buy this unless they want to flash a 3rd party OS, or they’re okay with paying to participate in a beta in exchange for a discount. Things have improved, but just barely. I don’t think first-time NAS buyers should be buying this, especially (right now).
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I cant seem to get an answer. I am new to kickstarter. Will the NAS’s sold during the kickstarter event be the full retail version or some early prototype?
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well said.
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So conflicted on whether or not to back the NAS. I am really tempted to either get the DXP4800 Plus or the DXP6800 Pro as my NAS/Plex server, but without proper answer on whether or not Ugreen will support third party OS and with its immature OS I am just uncomfortable dropping that money for a first NAS
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This launch was wild. The UGREEN folks promised that if you give them a $5 deposit, you’d get a 40% discount. In some places they even clearly stated that this would be a discount on top of the 40% early bird price. Now it turns out that the $5 deposit was essentially a ruse, and the price on Kickstarter is the same for everyone.
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was going to place an order but no UK options. ballz
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You tried third party OS’s but didn’t try your hardest to side load plex?
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I absolutely hate that the UK is excluded from the 40% off ????.
I’d cover shipping and taxes and they shipped you one so I don’t get the issue
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*Update on the use of 3rd Party OS* on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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The Synology NAS is absolutely noiseless
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*Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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*Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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Just wanted to say “thank you” for all of your videos. They were very helpful in my latest NAS upgrade, which I documented and gave you a reference for: https://youtu.be/_hoyGx9zVxE?feature=shared
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Would love for them to reach out to you for consultation on their software – of course, with applicable consulting fees! – so they can make this in to a great competitor in the marketspace. Thanks for the rundown!!
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Thanks for the review always appreciated. Very disappointed by Ugreen policy to limit starter to Germany and the US. Why many people are getting test units for free outsides of those 2 countries, but was refused to subscribe
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Does anyone know if the ones sold during the kickstarter early bird pricing are prototype version or will they be the retail finished version? I emailed them but they don’t seem to want to respond.
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This UI looks almost 1:1 for Synology DSM. I’d love to get my hands on an OS package and compare it to a DSM update package to see if it is the same, or if they’ve simply tried to clone DSM’s look and feel for their OS. If it’s the former, and there’s no licensing agreement between UGreen and Synology, I imagine this product may be dead before arrival.
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by chance does anyone know if this kickstarter is going to be able to be delivered to the UK? I’ve seen contradicting info
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If you don’t like baseline features being in the app center, you’re going to hate the way Synology are going as they are moving exactly in that direction
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Is this NAS generally suitable for first time users? Or will it just be a major pain due to e.g. lack of configuration tutorials and generally the not fully developed OS? The early bird price is of course very compelling, but I am not really sure how much hardware is required for it to run smoothly.
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Thanks for this insanely in-depht review! I’m also planning to buy one of these NAS systems (probably the SSD only system).
Do you have any information on compatibility with MacOS Time Machine Backups?
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I love your review. Thank you!
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They really need to be ok with people just wiping this and running unraid on it.
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You couldn’t find any way to sideload Plex for a prelim test…. I’m sure it’s running on some basic Linux distro and you can find Plex compatible for all of them.
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If they add a few as certain functionality and improve security and 3rd party support (PLEX and such). Also if they offer something similar to Synology SHR raid configuration I would definitely consider switching from Synology.
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Can you do a guide to HDDs? E.g there are currently several 22TB or 20TB HDDs that have basically the exact same specs on paper, using the same technology yet arte vastly differently priced.
E.g. the Toshiba MG10 is where I live consistently a lot cheaper than preatty much the exact same models from WD or Seagate. (320 USD vs 400USD)
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To be on the safe side, the hardware is absolutely top for the price, but I would install Unraid as software. I know that other operating systems are not supported out of the box, it will void the warranty (however they want to determine that when using a different systemdrive) and also needs a change in the bios. But Unraid should be able to run on it without any problems, right?
Could you maybe even test it? I’m sure some people would be interested. But if you can’t, for example for partnership reasons, that’s fine too.
Best regards! 😀
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A few questions, does it come with 3.5 to 2.5 inch adapters? Also do you have the 6 bay model? curious about the size of the PCIE x4 expansion slot, wondering if one can shove a GPU in there
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I’m seriously regretting my QNAP TS-464 purchase 16 month ago. It looks like Ugreen have done an initial good job. It looks a smart thing, probably the best looking box out of all of the competition if it’s on show. The SD slot, brilliant addition, I don’t regularly use SD cards, but sometimes I do get client video footage on SD cards, and it would be great to just dump straight to the NAS.
Finally, a NAS that has easy access for the RAM and NVME slots, the TS-464 isn’t too bad as you just pull the drive bays to get access, but my hands aren’t great and I struggled to get RAM and the NVMe’s into the slots; the access panel is great, I remember the days laptops had them and upgrading the RAM and drive was a 5 min job. It’s also great to see the OS being an actual removable drive, so if the drive fails, or you need more space for apps etc, you can upgrade it, big thumbs up there, it should increase the life span of the NAS, as I’m sure over the years the OS will get larger.
Onboard 10Gbe is a massive plus, but it needs to be true 10Gbe, 700-900mb/s transfers realistically, otherwise work on a solid 5Gbe the is consistently 500mb’s. I’ve added the 10Gbe NVMe addin card to the TS-464, in hindsight a waste of time and money due to PCIe lane limitations that I didn’t fully understand when I bought the NAS, the best transfer speeds I get is 270-500mb/s (more often than not the lower end of that range), the 2.5Gbe is also great too rather than 1Gbe. How I’ve got my networking set up is, all my containers use the 2.5Gbe port and 10Gbe is restricted to video editing PC interaction.
Software – 100% agree on the UI font, it’s awful, and akin to the 90s/early 2000s, it certainly isn’t on brand with Ugreen branding, on their website they use Poppins font, why wasn’t that used? A modern on brand font needs to be used to fit the overall look of the NAS. The transfer status definitely needs to be in window as well as in the main Tasks menu, QNAP and Synology both have a status icon on the window you started the transfer in, with a popout for all current tasks, including remotely started tasks. Custom folders for media definitely needs to be enabled. The OS definitely has a Synology feel about it, rather than QNAP, I think it’s wise for Ugreen to go for something in between, I’m use to QNAP’s QTS, I find Synology’s OS a little too simplistic, but something in the middle would be nice for the average user. For all the flaws in the software, the good thing is it is software and can be improved with each update, more important is the hardware is right, and I think overall they are offering a far better hardware package than anyone else.
Regardless of the current state and we know it’s not finished, if Ugreen really are serious about getting into the NAS game, this and future products really could shake up the turn key NAS market, I honestly think QNAP and Synology isn’t always the best value for money, and often their hardware choices on stunted their NAS’s.
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The ability to us TrueNAS or another opensource NAS OS is a deal breaker for me. I do like the hardware but the OS is just missing too much to day to day operation.
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0:27: ???? Exploring the beta version of UGreen NAS software with its features, improvements, and limitations.
3:59: ⚙️ User-friendly NAS software interface with familiar layout and intuitive controls.
7:56: ???? Overview of UGREEN NAS UGOS Software Beta features and controls.
11:38: ???? Efficient file management and performance testing capabilities on UGREEN NAS UGOS Software.
15:33: ???? Review of multimedia features including playing video files and viewing photos within the web browser.
19:57: ⚙️ AI models in the photo app are comprehensive and beneficial, despite being limited to one default directory.
23:45: ???? Importance of security measures in preventing ransomware attacks and unauthorized access.
28:03: ???? UGREEN NAS UGOS Software offers various support options, including remote access and offline access point.
32:12: ???? Evaluation of UGREEN NAS UGOS software beta version, including mobile application functionality.
36:05: ⚙️ Efficient photo browsing, sharing, and facial recognition on mobile application.
40:03: ⚙️ Review of UGREEN NAS software beta version highlights need for security enhancements and ongoing SMB performance optimization.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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I really hope they change the font of the interface from Times New Roman ????
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I was actually about to buy my first Nas Synology ds224+ after I saw Ugreen Nas device . I changed my mind because it has better 2.5g and good cpu .
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After seeing this, I’ll definitely not use this OS. It would be really interesting to see how unraid or TrueNAS runs on these machines. Also a point would be power consumption on different OS, c states and stuff…
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This thing looks like an investment thats has the potential to grow with the demands of the average user thats looking for basic backup & storage features. For more sophisticated users this won’t do. Packed with this hardware this thing neds a docker ui and some hypervisor.
At least now you have a way to generate more content as udates for this OS hit the device.
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I am going to make the purchase based on the hardware specs and Price. Will use as a backup to the back until the software matures
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You have now done 5 videos on this Chinese spyware/vaporware/malware product …..give it up until its released. I don’t trust Ugreen with either the way they have launched this or the security of the product against CCP interference. All they have done with Kickstarter is make themselves look dodgy as F*ck….they look like they are hiding things …. then we can talk about how they wheeled out their employees to shrill for them on YouTube …..
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11:02 that’s maybe on purpose to catch vibrations?
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So many CPU power and RAM only for sharing files and Photo manager?? No VM Manager or Docker is only disappointing.
Yes, its a beta, but if you want play in a big market you must bring more as a really nice phone app.
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Oh god
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???? Plus, since it’s not finished / could have bugs, you don’t want people calling “UHG! OS”
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Thank you, Robbie ????.
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I think they will offer Plex and Emby, BUT let’s stick to the current reality where these doesn’t exist. Do you think it would be possible to install and run Plex server through the console shell ?
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+Like just for saying 4 times 4 and not this stoopit “ex” fad that seems to have taken over most tech channels.
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Why o why does it seem that all chinese apps use Times as default font. It makes every UX look cheap and dated.
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I have never had a NAS before, so I am thinking about making this 6bay pro my first. Therefore, I really appreciate these detailed videos. Thank you.
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Thanks for showing how hard it is to install another OS on it…that was pretty extreme????
37-53W seems like a lot of power for a NAS…and this isn’t even the 1235u 6 bay I’d get ????
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When I look at this as a whole I see an unfinished copy of DSM. Except DSM has had 15 years of refinement and hardening. If they don’t get SSH enablement, 2FA, immutable snapshots, and a useful security scanner sorted I can almost guarantee they will be hit with a malware attack shortly after release. I had very high hopes for this device, even gave them my five bucks, but I’m becoming less sure as time goes on.
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The font type is not consistent in the interface, times new Roman is very dated. The menus do look like my dated DS214, and my old Asustor AS-202TE – now you may understand why I’m looking for a new NAS. The hardware is a real turn on, but the software does seem unfinished, but remember when I bought my Asustor they had only just entered the market, it was a leap of faith, and at times it showed, iSCSI on Synology was reliable, the same on Asustor, initially, was not. Ah, as I’m watching inconsistent fonts was just mentioned, thanks.
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Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anything on the use of containers. Without virtualization and containers, to run servers and keep them separate and secure, I would give it a hard no. Not that I don’t think Qnap Container Station doesn’t need work too.
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It looks like a Synology DSM poor ripoff.
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Lack of immutable snapshots is a dealbreaker for me. It’s too bad we don’t know whether they’re going to add it because I won’t buy one on the kickstarter if I don’t know if that feature is going to be there at release. It’s really your final backstop against crypto attacks. If I have to choose between a Synology with an old processor and a 12th gen i5 without immutable snapshots, I’ll take the Synology every time
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Is it real, the campaign is only for US and Germany? What about other EU countries? ???? Do they really want to sell this?
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Anyone other Americans here that think UGOS is too close to “uggos”?
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I like Synology software – with a bit of luck this UGREEN NAS will finally force Synology to put some decent hardware in their next “plus” generation – much better CPU, integrated GPU, 10GbE, more RAM – and also move away from their lock-in on RAM modules and HDD on their higher end gear. If not, as the software evolves, I might just have to make the move.
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Looks great, but UGREEN should stick with their stuff which are good. A Nas is a very complicated product to execute properly. I bought a second hand NAS from QNAP, and this thing is old; and still recieves some updates now and then. I do not see this happening with UGREEN. The cooling, i see no proper vents on the front. So it looks like it will suffocate a bit in warmer weather. Also, a little critisism; the splitscreen video for showing closeups is not really an addition, the right side image is a tad soft and less contrasty. The audio/video lag between the two shots is distracting more than it is worth your time editing this in. Your main camera captures it all just fine in my opinion.
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Can these NAS drives be used for storage and play of 4k UHD Blu-ray Discs? Would I need additional hardware to stream it over my home network through the newest Apple TV? I am quadriplegic and can’t change discs without help so this device could be very helpful and freeing for me. Thanks for reading.
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Can these NAS drives be used for storage and play of 4k UHD Blu-ray Discs? Would I need additional hardware to stream it over my home network through the newest Apple TV? I am quadriplegic and can’t change discs without help so this device could be very helpful and freeing for me. Thanks for reading.
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Does it support truenas?
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This misses the big one ….would you trust a Mainland Chinese company with being the center of your network? …Why do you think they only want their own OS ??? What else is in there????
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Will this get Docker and Plex? It looks like a really attractive option but my main uses would be just for Plex and maybe a minecraft server.
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I don’t think we really need yet another NAS OS, especially not a Chinese made one. So can you run Unraid or even better TrueNAS on these UGREEN boxes?
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watched the whole length of this review, thanks! … they need to sort the software issues out quick and at least with a video/streaming app too
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Thank you for your review. Is it possible to connect another computer directly to this nas via cable to open the disks?
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As someone completely new to this space I had a question. The transfer speeds that you showed over 10gbe was slow and again sorry for my incompetence when asking this but, thats transfer stuff over the network so wireless right? I have a mac studio that has a 10gb ethernet port could I plug the ethernet cable directly from my mac to the NAS and receive much fast speeds?
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Waited so long for you review! Huge fan of yours since I am new to this whole NAS topic and your videos are really helpful!
Is it in general possible to use this NAS (or any other) for hoarding data, especially videos etc and use a Mini PC as the Plex server that accesses the videos from the NAS?
My use case would be mostly for storing digital documents, photos and videos. Since they currently don’t seem to have a Plex app, I wonder if above solution would be possible.
I am currently cheering for this device due to the comparably great hardware/€…
Would rather use synology but cannot believe what kind of hardware they are selling compared to others
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If the only thing that we miss out on is the warranty but we still have the option to install 3rd party OS options. then I think that’s acceptable. worst case use it stock until the warranty expires then upgrade to a supported 3rd party OS (or sooner if you don’t care about the warranty)
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*Please note that The UGREEN NASync Series Kickstarter campaign currently only supports shipping to addresses in the United States and Germany.
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I hope we can get a stable version of TrueNAS Scale to run into this until the UGOS get better.
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Too bad there’s no AMD version. I boycott Intel processors.
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I’ve been saying for a while that I don’t understand why this processor hasn’t been more popular with these kind of devices. The 5 core 1P+4E benchmarks pretty close to the N100 overall, but it has a bunch more PCIe lanes.
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That mobile app is such a mess. Too many taps to see a photo
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Idle at 60w, it’s crazy! My old 12700k build with proxmox and a few powertop tuning idle at around 30w
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What are the dimensions of the case? Will the 6-bay and the 8-bay model be the same height?
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Looks good I am considering; however …… they should have concentrated on the hardware and put something like TrusNAS on, or allow you to choose an OS when purchasing. Companies shouldn’t keep trying to reinvent systems. Would have been relased quicker and less expensive without their custom software. I would be happy with Ubuntu server with ZFS. But would be overkill, so I should stick to repurposing old hardware I suppose.
I worry about the Drobo situation if they kill this project. Wouldn’t be great running out of date NAS software.
The hardware looks great and mature.
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Thx4ur hard worx! I will get my hands on 6bay variant as an update for my Qnap TS-452-D2-8G only as a secure datavault (raid5, snapshots and backup). So the kickstarter prize triggers me and i love to see further updates of ur intel.
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Great review. I’ll pass now and pick up a QNAP instead since I need Plex support sooner than later and there is no timeline on that, let alone everything else to do with its software. Thank you again!
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Thanks for the great in-depth review <3 I have a DS918+ and am considering to get a 6 or 8 bay solution. UGREEN is also fairly intriguing from a pure pricepoint pov (with the 40% KS discount). I don't seem to find any good alternative around a similar pricepoint these days, any thoughts from a pure $$$ pov?
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Would you buy it to run unraid? I’m looking to replace my aging home built nas.
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What is the direction of the fan in relation to the filter, from front to back or from back to front.
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no ECC support no ZFS?
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so are UGREEN happy for you to take it all apart?… I can only imagine their faces as they watch this…
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The software looks a lot like DSM. We cant tell from this video (for sure, the deep dive will show more) but the visuals of the interface looks like DSM, so much in fact … maybe a bit copy/paste.
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I don’t like external PSU, I don’t mind the NAS itself a bit bigger.
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I feel like a n00b asking this, but is your video of the interface accelerated at all? I have a pretty beefy QNAP and it in no way responds that quickly.
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Commenting before watching: I’m really excited to see Ugreen break in to this space and see what they can bring to the table! I’ve been enjoying their designs in the charger and adapter sector. While I don’t yet see them as a name that’s synonymous with guaranteed quality and the highest standards, they do seem to be pushing competition in value delivered. I think that’s very exciting for us laymen!
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totally agree with you on the sd card slots, it always seemed weird to me how many off the shelf nases don’t have one when they seem to mostly advertise to photographers and other content creators who are mostly moving data from sd cards anyway.
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Can you swap the fan to something like a noctua?
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Yeah, I”m gonna stick with my Asustor.
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way too expensive
if you’re gonna put only 4 drives and an underpowered cpu in the machine just buy a 10 year old secondhand computer.
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I like to see new players entering the market. I feel like Symbology has become lazy in recent years and needs a kick up the bum (Low ram, 1GB ports, etc).
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Awesome review! Many thanks! ????Looking forward to the TrueNAS/Proxmox UGREEN video ????
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60W idle power consumption is a no go. This would cost 160€ in energy per year in germany. No wonder noone else is talking about the power consumption. If it stays like that i am out.
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At least it isn’t storaxa
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Biggest issue for me is it is a custom Linux kernel. From a Chinese company ????
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Wait they put drmos vrm on that thing ????
Hardware looks nice ,just software still need some work to become a turkey nas product
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The thing is, I don’t mind beta products for many uses, but my storage systems need to be solid. My current 3-drive NAS has been running for over 10 years.
I can’t see trusting an incomplete, crowdfunded solution. And, face it, the main reason for crowd funding is when the company doesn’t have the resources to complete the device without getting money up front. My conclusion is that either Ugreen really doesn’t have many resources or they are using crowd funding as a method of marketing.
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Let’s see if this “turkey solution” with their super confident OS works out of the box or not
Yep very confident on OS and restricted plus not very confident and raise as crowds funding … Odd
If it works really great then with the strict OS limitation might still be considerable
If it needs tons of user manual work to make it work and they are still playing stupid OS restriction policy to Dodge support ticket then sorry, skip
Thank you for reviewing this ????
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Ughhh….getting closer to having real ECC memory but still not there. ODECC is not for data retention. When are these manufacturers going to learn a NAS is for long term storage for so many. Would have bought into the kickstarter for the flash version if it supported true ECC memory. Would already have the Asustor flash version if it supported ECC memory.
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Is there a regular UEFI/BIOS that would allow to use an alternative NAS OS such as UnRAID, FreeNAS in conjunction with the USB port?
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Will they allow you to buy 2 units with ONE $5 deposit?
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I hear seagulls. More than the device. Hahaha
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Excellent video.i really like your videos. So what is ur suggestion..do the diy like i9 erying PROJECT or buy the ugreen nas 6 bay and wait for them to do some miracle to software or allow 3rd party O.S?
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im just about ready to transition from a 4 bay to an 8 bay so I think im going to snag the 8 bay for the discount and sit on it while things get ironed out. The price for that hardware is just too good that that price imo. Great review!
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That you have to disassemble the whole thing to get to the drive where the OS is installed is a big NOGO
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Already been burned by a Kickstarter NAS crowd funding, I lost a large sum of cash, be careful.
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I still don’t understand why UGreen needs to crowdfund this product…
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When you backup photos can you make it delete the photos on your phone once those are uploaded?
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Nice hardware specs, but now a total failure unless you live in the US or Germany. I was very excited initially, I was ready to order on the kickstarter, I need a new NAS now, but then found out if you now don’t live in those places then you have no idea when it will come to other regions. The RRP is not in the least competitive so unless you have loads of spare Dosh and don’t care about cost, you will choose a different vendor – Ugreen have no pedigree with NAS devices, they have no track record with NAS systems. I have tons of Ugeen devices, love them, but this NAS release is totally daft and a massive turn off. I will get the Terramaster instead, the 424 has good hardware, a sensible price, and a good pedigree, and if don’t like TOS I can replace with TrueNAS or Unraid, or Proxmox. I feel quite let down, especially as the restriction to US and Germany only appeared later.
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Thank you for the video.
I really like this product, and for me, a 40% discount to essentially be a public beta tester with such good hardware seems reasonable. I think we have to consider the price difference between the Kickstarter campaign and the recommended retail price (RRP). It’s unfinished, the OS still needs some work, but I think that makes the 40% price discount reasonable.
I mean, if we compare this to other NAS devices at the same price segment, we have to overpay for the software on those (bundled with really weak hardware). Although I still think (and I think I mention this all the time) that most of the software options other brands offer are still much worse than 90% of the open-source counterparts, but it is what it is. Most people like it for some reason. Although in my humble opinion, Synology is kind of the Apple of the NAS world. Until you show people that there are much better solutions, they are fine with something mediocre. Like… a usable Docker UI on any one of the NAS OSes?… Anyone?… They should just stop wasting development time on creating limited, useless “apps.” They are in the F league compared to the mature open-source solutions like Portainer, Yacht, heck even DockGE, which is like 4 months old with only a single main developer.
The only thing I really dislike in the Ugreen NAS lineup is the price difference between the 6 and 8-bay models. A 50% price increase for just +2 disk bays? For that $300 price difference, I can pick up a 6-bay USB DAS (for example from Terramaster) and double the number of my bays.
I have two questions, if you have some time. Does the fan in this model have a regular 3 or 4-pin fan connector, or is it something proprietary (like TerraMaster’s mini connector)? Just because with a 5-year life expectancy, it would be cool to be able to swap out the fan for something else in case it has any problems (like wearing out the bearings and starting to be louder).
Also, since you have experience with the TerraMaster F4-424 (Pro), which is probably the only comparable product to Ugreen’s 4-bay models at the moment (hardware-wise), and both have one large fan at the end, is there any meaningful difference regarding noise levels between the two? I don’t need exact measurements; I am just curious if you have any opinion on this topic.
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But, can it run Crysis? (AKA TrueNas)
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I was pretty interested but after I watched a Q&A video where they mentioned if you install any other OS they’d void the warranty… Nah. Currently considering a DIY NAS…
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0:12: ⚙️ Overview of the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS crowdfunding campaign and hardware specifications.
5:17: ???? Unique design with lockable bays, USB ports, and bold text sets the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 apart.
10:10: ???? Issues with tray sturdiness in NASync DXP4800 system despite overall sturdy build and ventilation.
14:59: ⚙️ Overview of design and connectivity features of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
19:43: ???? Exploring the internal components of a NAS device, including the motherboard, CPU, and SSD.
24:20: ???? Review of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 software features and client application for local network access.
28:32: ⚙️ User-friendly folder creation and management with comprehensive options, lacking advanced security features.
33:03: ????️ Exploration of geolocation data and AI photo recognition features in NASync DXP4800 NAS.
37:59: ???? Beta features include LED scheduling, language issues, and occasional Chinese notifications.
42:04: ???? Enhancements in system configuration backup and network settings reset needed for UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
47:21: ⚡ Comparison of data transfer speeds between two NVMe SSDs in UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
51:33: ???? Detailed overview of the network interface, hardware information, and app management on UGREEN NASync DXP4800.
55:45: ⚙️ Evaluation of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 prototype software and build quality.
Timestamps by Tammy AI
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Can we get the measurements of the retail box it ships in?
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Not open to UK buyers!
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Too many variables and in beta to purchase or kick-start
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Just FYI, you used 10Gbe but kept the MTU at 1500. You should test with jumbo frames (9000 MTU).
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This looks pretty great for a first gen product not going to lie.
As long as they keep pushing good updates to the operating system, things should shape up to be a really great competitor. If they keep the price affordable people will 100% go UGREEN
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First of all, thank you for the detailed test of the hardware and software. I think you are the only yt who does such a great and detailed test, that’s why you got my subscription. I have been waiting impatiently for this video review. As I understand it, the hardware is great and the software is still in beta. Now I don’t know whether I should buy the 4800 plus or 6800 pro or the 480t plus. I want to use the Nas as a Plex Media Server, Portainer, VM, backup of my Apple devices. This should be my 1st Nas with which I don’t want to have any trouble for years. So I trust your suggestions and advice. Would appreciate some advice from you and thanks for the great work ????????????????????????
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All these new devices coming out will force sonology to innovate on the hardware side of things and stop being so particular with low end hardware. Maybe even lower their prices.
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I hope the final product will allow me to use ZFS instead of Btrfs.
Otherwise I could always disable the watchdog, enable UEFI boot and boot unRAID from a USB stick, I guess… ????
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I’m thinking of using the 2 nvme 4+4=8tb with docker and lancache with one of the 10gb nic. Then make a raid with the hard drive for my network share drive using the other 10gb nic.
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That’s a great review and the NAS is very very promissing. Finally seems like some competition for Synology and QNAP. May I ask if it would be possible to do a PLEX review with this device? I’m very curious to see how it performs. Thanks a lot and keep up the great work!
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Great fair review – shame its not available in the UK – Germany and US only. Im sure they will learn and go with third party OS surely.
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Not buying something that might be some day. I’ll check it out when its really for sale.
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Storaxa a ruined me on cheap Chinese hardware. Will not back another. Ever.
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That power consumption would absolutely kill my buying intentions if it stays that way.
Would love to see its idle power with Unraid and powertop.
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Do you know, if on the 6 bay and 8 bay Versions, the Thunderbolt on the front is to connect to the Computer direkt, so the NAS
can be used as a Storage pool, or is the thunderbolt port in front only for a external hard drive to connect?
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Great Review. What’s really a bummer is the idle power consumption of about 55w with 4 drives. That’s about 35w for the nas alone, which sums up to 300kwh a year. In Germany this alone costs 100€ on the energy bill for the nas alone.
Existing products like QNAP TS-464 needs about half of that in idle.
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I will have a hard time forgiving Ugreen for limiting launch (and discounts) to 2 countries. Just my POV.
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This is only available to the USA and Germany right?
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My 6 year old Synology DS1618+, populated with 6 Iron Wolf Pro 7200rpm drives, gets 733 MB/s write and 1026 MB/s read over a 10 gigabit network.
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Which way does the air travel through the system? Is it from rear to front or vice versa? The reason I ask is I suspect that I would assume that the air is coming in from the font and is blown out the back at which point the filter in the back is of no use.
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Hardware is awesome, but the software seems to need some time to mature. Voiding the warranty if you install an alternative OS is a bit disappointing.
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Man the UI looks very similar to Synology.
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For the SSD model review, I think the following would make your review stand out from the rest. Can you test RAM with speeds above 4800? Does it support XMP? Can it do 48GB sticks? What happens when you use 990 EVOs that only use 2 lanes of Gen 4, will all of them run at Gen 4 for speeds then? How well does thunderbolt 4 behave on Unraid. Just some points I think people would like to know, keep up the great work!
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1st. Thanks Robbie for this review!
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