UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS Review

UGREEN NASync DXP8800 PLUS Review

UGREEN continues to push forward with its NASync series of NAS devices and although the range is pretty broad, the device in the lineup that business/professional users are looking at as an affordable alternative to Synology and QNAP is the big 8-Bay model – The UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS. Pretty much the ‘top end’ model of the series, this is an 8 SATA and 2 Gen 4 M.2 NVMe SSD System, rolling out the gate with dual 10GbE connectivity, Thunderbolt 4 ports, a PCIe upgrade slot, an i5 10 Core Processor and up to 64GB of DDR5 memory. It’s ALOT. First arriving at $899 for early backers, now at $974, this system is a huge saving when compared with the $1899 Synology DS1823xs+ and $2000-3500 QNAP TVS-h874 series. But what is the catch? What compromises have UGREEN made? Ultimately, does the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS deserve your money and your data? Let’s discuss it in today’s review.

Other UGREEN NAS Reviews:

The DXP4800 PLUS 4-BAY NAS ReviewVIDEO WRITTEN

The DXP480T 4-BAY NVMe SSD NAS ReviewVIDEO WRITTEN

The DXP8800 PLUS 8-BAY 10GbE NAS ReviewVIDEO WRITTEN

Important – The UGREEN DXP8800 Plus NAS is still in the mid stages of crowdfunding. The unit provided for review by UGREEN might not represent the finished product if/when crowdfunding is concluded and eventual fulfillment begins. UGREEN is an already long-established and trusted brand, but nevertheless, it is important to keep in mind that this is still a product that is initially being made available via crowdfunding and therefore an element of additional care is always advised, compared with a comparable product purchased via traditional retail outlets.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Quick Conclusion

Much like the rest of the NASync series, the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS 8-Bay NAS is incredibly good value in terms of hardware and, if you are looking for the very best desktop NAS hardware for the price point available in the market – the DXP8800 PLUS is truly unbeatable in its specifications, build quality and overall physical presentation. Even going full ‘DiY’ and trying to build a system of this calibre yourself (case, cables, i5 embedded mobo, 2 port 10GbE card, 2 NVMe, 8 SATA, case, cooling, etc), you would struggle to beat the sub $999 of this system by a meaningful margin. Add to this the fact that UGREEN have now softened their stance on 3rd party NAS OS’ on their NAS devices having no aggressive impact on your 3-year hardware warranty has won a lot more users over, as the DXP8800 PLUS becomes the perfect TrueNAS or UnRAID NAS for users who don’t want the hassle of building from scratch, chasing multiple warranty’s and silicon paste under the fingernails! Genuinely, it is impossible to fault the DXP8800 PLUS on a hardware level (it’s not even that noisy, compared to other 8-Bay NAS in the market at least).

When it comes to software and performance, however, things are a little more complicated. The UGREEN NAS software (UGOS) is still very much in beta, and it feels likes it. The system (at time of writing) has still yet to complete initial crowdfunding and development of the software is still on-going (so we are still judging a software OS that hasn’t finished). But nevertheless, the absence of services such as 2 factor authentication, WORM, a comprehensive security monitor, volume encryption, a virtual machine hypervisor, broader 3rd party cloud sync and backup tools, etc – the absence of these (as well as inconsistencies in the software and performance, that arguably are possibly related to it’s beta status) lead to it being hard to recommend the DXP8800 PLUS on a software level. However, this system will not see physical fulfilment to backers till at least June/July at the very earliest, which is still a decent amount of time to polish the software and roll out beta’s of individual services that are promised on the UGREEN roadmap. Perhaps you are looking at the DXP8800 PLUS series for TrueNAS/UnRAID/OMV etc, or simply to set it up for local SMB storage for your backups and then use the docker app to run Plex. For those users, the DXP8800 is an absolute bargain. Just remember that we are still talking about Kickstarter and crowdfunding (still an odd move by such a big brand) and therefore this needs to be treated as such, not comparable to traditional retail! Overall, I am hugely impressed and look forward to seeing where this system, UGOS and UGREEN go in the exciting world of NAS in the next year or two. The DXP8800 PLUS is a BEAST of a NAS in terms of hardware, but the software is still WiP.

SOFTWARE - 6/10
HARDWARE - 10/10
PERFORMANCE - 7/10
PRICE - 10/10
VALUE - 9/10


8.4
PROS
👍🏻PCIe Expandability
👍🏻8 HDDs + 2x Gen 4 M.2 in 1 box under $999
👍🏻Good Balanced CPU choice
👍🏻10GbE Dual Ports!
👍🏻An SD Card Slot (wierdly rare!)
👍🏻10/10 Build Quality
👍🏻Great Scalability
👍🏻Fantastic Mobile Application (even vs Synology and QNAP etc)
👍🏻Desktop/Browser GUI shows promise
👍🏻Established Brand entering the NAS Market
👍🏻Not too noisy (comparatively)
👍🏻Very Appealing retail package+accessories
CONS
👎🏻10GbE Performance was less than expected
👎🏻Crowdfunding choice is confusing
👎🏻Software (still in Beta) is still far from ready 18/4/24

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Presentation

You really do have to hand it to UGREEN. The presentation of the DXP8800 Plus is genuinely top-tier. This brand’s experience in computer accessories has clearly influenced the presentation of their NAS system, opting for glossy retail packaging that boldly showcases the system’s capabilities over a standard dull brown box.

Inside the shiny box is a well-organized shipping container, with the system secured by rigid foam and an accessory kit containing everything needed to get started. As previously mentioned, retail packaging and device protection during transit are often overlooked by brands, risking damage. Despite being largely unpopulated, except for an internal 2280 SSD for the OS, minimizing the risk of damage, the extra effort on protection is appreciated.

The DXP8800 Plus includes nearly everything needed for setup, aside from hard drives. Given the early stage of the system’s crowdfunding campaign, additional storage options may later become available.

The included kit, while basic, ensures users new to hosting their own servers have everything required.

It’s the attention to detail that impresses – from M.2 NVMe heat pads of notable quality and thickness for thermal dissipation, to the included Cat 7 network cables with high-quality gold/copper ends, differentiating them from standard cables.

Even the instruction manual, a rarity as most NAS brands now direct users online, stands out with its glossy presentation and offers more than basic setup guidance.

One thing I wanted to note (especially after reviewing the DXP4800 PLUS and DXP480T NAS systems previously) is that the DXP880 8-Bay NAS arrives with 3 years of warranty, when the bulk other devices in the series arrive with 2-Years. It’s a small but significant difference, as most users who are looking at 8-Bays of storage tend to be doing so for business-related use – so that extra year will certainly be noted and appreciated!

However, the choice of a 3rd party CWT internal power supply (PSU), though expected at this scale, given UGREEN’s reputation for high-quality power adapters and cables. While not a deal-breaker, it’s curious to see a non-UGREEN PSU used, especially when the DXP480t model reviewed elsewhere came with a branded UGREEN PSU. This inconsistency in their approach to PSUs is puzzling.

Overall, the presentation of the DXP8800 Plus from UGREEN, a newcomer to the NAS market intending to launch via Kickstarter, is exceptionally well done. Despite some accessory quality inconsistencies, the overall package is commendable for a pre-release sample. Now, let’s proceed to discuss the system’s design.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Design

At first glance, the DXP 8800 Plus appears to be a fairly standard 8 NAS enclosure, and you might be forgiven for thinking it’s just reiterating the typical case design prevalent among numerous companies. However, there’s more to its design and efficiency than meets the eye. For starters, the external enclosure is entirely metal, enhancing heat dissipation directly from the base panel housing the M.2 modules. Additionally, UGREEN has infused the design with their unique stylistic choices, evident in the presentation of individual bays and the arrangement and accessibility of various ports and connections.

The inclusion of small design flourishes, like the rear removable mesh metallic fan panel that magnetically attaches to the casing, is particularly appreciated. While such a feature is familiar to prosumer PC cases, it’s surprisingly rare in NAS designs – puzzling, given NAS systems’ continuous operation and higher likelihood of accumulating dust and debris. Despite being a relatively minor detail, this fan cover’s presence in UGREEN’s first product impresses me aesthetically and functionally.

The internal fans are two low noise standard 92mm PC fans, that can be fully controlled in their RPM by the system software manually, or left to automatically adapt to the system’s needs.

Handling individual storage bays, however, presents a mixed reaction. The bold numeric design distinguishes it aesthetically from other NAS brands that often opt for bland, nondescript bays. The tool-less, click-and-load trays that forego the need for a screwdriver for drive installation and the inclusion of individual locking mechanisms (with keys) are commendable features.

Yet, these trays feel somewhat flimsy compared to the more robust trays found in desktop solutions from Synology and QNAP. While they secure the hard drives and align with the internal enclosure runners, the internal locking mechanism doesn’t inspire confidence in its security. The trays’ perceived cheap production quality slightly detracts from the overall positive aesthetic. Despite this, the system supports the latest 22TB hard drives (testing of 24TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro HDDs in progress), which means daily interaction with these trays will be minimal.

The main storage area features a pre-constructed PCB with eight integrated SATA and power connectors. The system documentation indicates that SAS drives are unsupported, a non-issue for this system’s scale and price point.

Upon removing the base’s metallic panel, the two M.2 NVMe SSD bays and upgradable DDR5 SODIMM ports are revealed. Space constraints make heat sink installation challenging, but UGREEN has anticipated this with the inclusion of thick heat pads in the accessory kit, facilitating heat dissipation through the external casing.

UGREEN’s entry into 24/7 service storage with the DXP 8800 Plus is noteworthy, especially for a brand new to this sector. Their effort to differentiate through design and functionality is largely successful, although the storage trays’ quality could be improved. Overall, the system’s design is a strong point, and I look forward to discussing ports and connectivity next.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Power Consumption

The DXP8800 PLUS is a beefy system and although I was expecting the system to be a little greedy on the power consumption anyway, it was still arguably a pinch higher than I expected. Initially, UGREEN stated that the power consumption of the 2 and 4 bay systems would be (for general system load):

  • DXP2800: Standby 16.77W (2*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD) / DXP2800: Standby 26.92W (2*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
  • DXP4800: Standby 29.279W (2*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD) / DXP4800 Plus: Standby 30.608W (4*4TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)
  • DXP4800 Plus: Standby 51.437W (4*8TB HDD + 1*256GB SSD)

Now, let’s put those numbers into perspective. Below is the power consumption of the DXP8800 PLUS NAS, populated with 4x Toshiba MG 8TB Enterprise HDDs, 4x Kingston DC600M SATA 480GB SSDs and 2x Kingston KC3000 NVMes, in both Idle and Active:

Based on the figures that UGREEN provided for the DXP4800 PLUS, the DXP8800PLUS was using twice the power. On the face of it, this seems reasonable (the latter system IS twice the scale in almost every way – also using a 10 Core i5 vs a 5 Core Pentium). Nevertheless, this is quite a hungry system and users looking at an 8-Bay 10G system like this, when moving away from more modest 2/4-Bay systems should be aware!

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Noise Levels

next up, the noise levels (always tough to show in a written article!). If you want to HEAR the noise levels of the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS, then you can head HERE to this specific section of the DXP8800 PLUS YouTube Review. Otherwise, for the reported dBa levels of the system in standby and active, use the videos below:

Standy/Idle:

Active Use, Fans on ‘FULL’:

REALLY surprised at the noise level. Given the largely metal construction of the system, I expected it to hit the early 40’s in dBa, at the very least. But it was surprisingly low ambient volume (relative to other 8-Bay NAS of course). Then there is the fact that I used a combination of smaller 8TB HDDs and SSDs, which did reduce noise levels somewhat. If I had been using more aggressive 12-14TB HDDs, then the operational noise of these more industrial built drives would have been much different  – but then we would be measuring HDD noise and not system noise.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Ports and Connections

One of the earliest things to notice about the connectivity on offer on the DXP 8800 Plus NAS is that this system brings back support for SD cards. This may seem almost insane to the average photo and video editor, but SD card readers on NAS devices have been largely absent for almost a decade, despite enormous protestations from photo and video editors for years.

Therefore, it’s kind of impressive that UGREEN has opted to provide an SD card slot and a front-mounted USB Type-A 10Gbs connection, AND 2x Thunderbolt 4 USB-C conenctions on the DXP8800 Plus when practically every other brand in the NAS industry does not. It’s going to be a tremendously convenient feature for those wanting to ingest media directly into the system via numerous storage methods and camera systems, making it that much more convenient than many others in the market.

The front-mounted Thunderbolt 4 USB-C ports can only be used with the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS as the ‘host’ and connected devices as ‘clients’. In ‘normal speak’, that means that these ports can only be used for accessories (storage etc) that are managed by the NAS. That means that currently you cannot use the Thunderbolt 3/4 USB-C port on your PC or Mac to connect with the NAS for a ‘Thunderbolt NAS’ connection, much as you would find from several QNAP Thunderbolt NAS (Guide on this HERE) devices.

Flipping the device around, we see that the system has even more USB ports that can be utilized by the system in a host-client relationship. That means that the UGREEN NAS system will act as the host device for connected storage drives and supported peripherals. Unfortunately, this does mean that you cannot directly connect to this device using those USB ports, and the USB 2.0 connections are pretty much exclusively designed for connecting printers and office peripherals, uninterruptible power supplies, or keyboard/mouse in KVM setups alongside the visual output.

The visual output of this system is a 4K 60 frames per second HDMI 2.0 connection (8K output is possible if you scale the memory up). The software for the UGREEN NAS system is still in beta, and currently, the HDMI output is limited to command line access.

Currently, there is no graphical user interface afforded to the HDMI output, such as you would find on a QNAP or Asustor NAS system, but as this is a relatively niche feature for many, I’m not going to give them too much of a hard time over this.

Although the lack of the Thunderbolt direct connectivity will be a blow for some, the majority of users will be much ,much more impressed with the network connectivity of the DXP8800 PLUS. The system arrives with two 10GbE network ports (which is exceptional at the under $999 price tag, at least during crowdfunding).

Just to put this into perspective, the Synology DS1823xs+ is an 8 Bay NAS that has 1x 10GbE connection (and 2x 1GbE) with a 4 Core / 8 Thread AMD Emb.CPU and arrives at $1800 without TAX. Likewise, the QNAP TVS-h874T4 arrives with several versions with 10GbE and/or Thunderbolt 4 connectivity (with Intel i3/i5/i7/i9 CPUs) and that system starts at around $1999 and can reach as high as $3999). We need to factor in that the DXP8800 Plus is a crowdfunding product (so therefore hardly comparable to traditional retail as a regular over the counter purchase), but whether you purchase it at the $974 crowdfunding or intended $1499 RRP (Realistically, I imagine it will sit at around $1299-1399 at full retail) – this is a HUGE saving on hardware and for a 10GbE ready system, exceedingly hard to beat. Remember though, HAVING 2x 10GbE is not the same as being able to fully USE 20GbE – that depends on so many factors (Shared internal PCI lanes and PCIe switches, SATA and NVMe controllers internally, as well as the actual media you choose to use to try and saturate the connection.

Nevertheless, this DXP8800 PLUS arriving with the two 10GBASE-T (Copper) connections with Aquantia controllers internally to manage it, is very appealing. But it does not stop there. The DXP8800 PLUS is one of a small % of the NASYnc series to feature a PCIe upgrade slot too. It’s a half-height slot and x4 speed (so largely going to be used for NIC upgrades), but nevertheless worked a treat.

I installed a simple, budget 2x 10GbE Intel X540 adapter from Aliexpress (found HERE) and it was immediately visible and usable in the UGREEN NAS Software:

Overall, in terms of ports and connectivity, I’m really happy with everything I found on the DXP8800 Plus, and the increased scalability in terms of improving upon the network connectivity down the line, as well as the price point of the base level of network connectivity, combined with a decent degree of functionality and modern storage expandability to boot. The lack of Thunderbolt direct connectivity is a shame, but this is already something of a rarity in the market anyway (QNAP dominate this and despite the likes of QSAN and Promise trying to emulate this previously, they have hit walls) and UGREEN do state they are investigating this at development. Overall, I am really happy with the hardware thus far. Let’s dig a little deeper.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Internal Hardware

As mentioned earlier, it’s surprisingly confident of UGREEN to launch so many different NAS devices simultaneously for their first foray into network-attached storage. Not only have they provided several different storage scales and architectures, but they are also supporting three different internal hardware CPUs in terms of CPU. The scale in terms of price and capabilities of each system varies.

The DXP8800 Plus arrived with an  Intel i5 10-core processor (2p + 8e), integrated graphics, 20 PCIe lanes, and a maximum 55W TDP. Despite its compact SOC form, this 12th generation Intel i5 processor offers substantial power, benchmarking well against the N100 and Pentium 8505 models in other UGreen NAS models. Testing this processor, especially in this early crowdfunding prototype, presents challenges. Though UGREEN have softened their position on 3rd party OS support (and it’s impact on your hardware warranty if you pursue this), it is still not the intended USE CASE of what UGREEN state this system is to be deployed in (to verify their claims on it’s performance). See video below for more information on this:

Consequently, we’re limited in our ability to benchmark using third-party OSs or reference previous benchmarks for similar architectures. The UGreen NAS’s operating system, still in beta, requires further optimization to fully showcase what the hardware can achieve.

This processor is well-equipped with sufficient PCIe lanes to manage the 8 SATA drives and 2x M.2 NVMe SSDs, offering respectable speeds through SSH (at least on slot #1 – more on that later). The main concern with this processor selection is the lack of ECC memory support, crucial for high-speed flash systems to minimize bit errors during intensive operations.

Although SOC processors that support ECC are rare, especially from Intel, using one for this system and potentially for the DXP8800 Plus could significantly impact the price and development timeline. Nevertheless, this CPU is arguably the best choice for such a compact system in 2024, balancing power efficiency, heat management, and performance capabilities.

Arriving with integrated graphics, supporting up to 64 gigabytes of memory (arriving with 8GB of DDR5 SODIMM and two slots), there is a lot to like here. It is especially surprising when you realize that the brand already provides closely priced N100 and Pentium models next to this device in UGREEN’s NAS portfolio. This processor performs exceedingly well with Plex Media Server and, thanks to those 20 lanes, also means there’s a decent spread of available hardware architecture across the whole device.

But do keep in mind that this system does not support ECC memory. Indeed, none of the UGREEN systems support ECC memory, and although they make a point of highlighting the on-die checks associated with DDR5, most experienced storage enthusiasts tend to prefer traditional ECC memory support. Nevertheless, 8GB is a good amount of memory to start with, and it’s great to know that you are not locked in with presoldered and fixed memory on the board, which is a move often used by more economical brands to save some money and dedicate lanes more efficiently. The layout of the internal architecture is still yet to be confirmed at the time of writing this review, but digging a little into the backend via SSH revealed that each of the M.2 NVMe slots on the base of this system are Gen 4 x 4.

However, further digging into the 2nd M.2 slot showed that it has been downgraded the 8GT/s x2 :

Not entirely sure what to make of this, as this IS a prototype review unit. But it does seemingly though a little initial shade on the whole ‘two Gen 4×4 slots’. I will need to investigate this further with the brand and when I get a further update on this, I will let you know by updating the article here. Meanwhile, the OS SSD bay that hosts the UGOS NAS software arrives on that Phison E13 Gen 3 SSD, that is downgraded the Gen 3×1 (SO, SUB 1,000MB/s performance – which is fine for the Operating System SSD, but does mean that data passing through it (or at least managed to a large degree) might be potentially bottlenecked.

So, how this all separates out on the system chipset and whether these are being delivered into PCIe switches to spread the architecture out for the rest of the system storage, double network connectivity, and dedicating lanes to all those available connections, is definitely an area that leaves pause for thought.

(image below from other UGREEN NAS Systems)

Which I had difficulty identifying, but I suspect is a Marvell AQtion Aquantia AQC113/AQC114/AQC114CS/AQC115Cs, comprising (from official pages) a high-performance,Scalable mGig, Ethernet MAC+PHY Controllers designed to support the following network rates: 10GBASE-T/5GBASET/ 2.5GBASE-T/1000BASET/100BASE-TX/10BASE-Te. When equipped with a PCI Express Gen 4 x4, this family of Scalable mGig Ethernet MAC+PHY Controllers easily handle the 10 GbE line-rate performance. The AQC113, AQC114, AQC114CS, AQC115C device family combines a mGig Ethernet MAC Controller with a full-reach, low-power, highperformance, multi-gigabit, single-port Gen 4 Ethernet Alaska PHY transceiver into a single, monolithic device that is designed using the latest 14nm, multi-gate, FinFET process technology.

(image below from other UGREEN NAS Systems)

The USB controller/manager appears to be an ASM1543, (from the ASmedia pages) a one Four to two differential channels mux switch with integrated Type-C Configuration Channel Logic Circuitry, using for USB3.1 type-C mux and CC detection application. The signal performance of mux switch is up to 10Gbps SuperSpeedPlus USB bus with low insertion loss and return loss, and it also supports USB plug orientation, configurable as DFP role or UFP role through the setting of strapping pins, and implementing the strapping for the setting/detection of Type-C current mode, following USB3.1 Revision 1.0 and USB Type-C Connector and Cable Revision 1.3 standard specification.

(image below from other UGREEN NAS Systems)

Next, we find a Richtek RT3624BE, (from the manf pages) a synchronous buck controller which supports 2 output rails and can fully meet Intel IMVP9.1 requirements. The RT3624BE adopts G-NAVPTM (Green Native AVP) which is Richtek’s proprietary topology derived from finite DC gain of EA amplifier with current mode control, making it easy to set the droop to meet all Intel CPU requirements of AVP (Adaptive Voltage Positioning). Based on the G-NAVPTM topology, the RT3624BE features a new generation of quick response mechanism (Adaptive Quick Response, AQR) to optimize AVP performance during load transient and reduce output capacitors. The RT3624BE integrates a high accuracy ADC for platform and function settings, such as ICCMAX, switching frequency, over-current threshold or AQR trigger level.

(image below from other UGREEN NAS Systems)

In terms of the SATA storage management, I found a ASMedia ASM116 SATA host controller(AHCI). (TBC) Which is upstream PCIe Gen3 x2 and downstream eight SATA Gen3 ports. It’s a low latency, low cost and low power AHCI controller. With four SATA ports and cascaded port multipliers, ASM1164 can enable users to build up various high speed IO systems, including server, high capacity system storage or surveillance platforms.

(image below from other UGREEN NAS Systems)

Earlier in March when I was testing the (late alpha, early Beta) version of the NAS software, system and services, the performance numbers I got were not hugely encouraging internally. However, there have been numerous improvements on the system software and I am pleased to confirm that the M.2 NVMe slot 1 was indeed 4×4 bandwidth and that some brief 1GB transfer/creation testing showed some early 5.5GB/s benchmarks on the Gen 4×4 SSD I has inside the system.

Now we cannot rule out the impact of caching internally and these tests are NOT reflective of everyday (i.e non synthetic) use, but it was definitely an encouraging sign. However, when I tried to repeatedly move 1GB of data between each of the NM,2 NVMe, the performance would drop down to 1.1-1.5Gb/s, which further suggested some lane sharing and a possible bottleneck by a controller and/or that downgrade perhaps. Again, this is a beta software/system and UGREEN repeated that this system is still undergoing optimization.

External performance over 10GbE was also an area that I really, REALLY hope this is sees significant optimization. I was hitting a bottleneck of around 650-700MB/s on upload and download (on a 10Gbe / 1,000MB/s connection). The performance numbers below were over 10GbE (with the MTU set at 1500 – As the software is currently not allowing me to scale it to 9000 MTU/Jumbo frames). Below is the tests for 4x 8TB Toshiba HDDs in RAID 5, 4x Kingston DC600M SATA SSDs in RAID 0 and 1x Kingston KC3000 Gen4 NVMe SSD.I then went ahead and conducted a windows 10GbE transfer to the RAID 5 array:

Further testing confirmed performance dips when transferring data between SSDs, indicating a shared pathway. Despite this being a pre-release sample, and acknowledging potential future optimizations, the observed SSD performance, though still faster than many market alternatives, fell comparatively short of expectations given the hardware capabilities (though still higher than the majority of M.2 SSD performance offered by other brands providing HDD SATA + M.2 solutions right now).

The UGREEN NAS’s software, still in beta, promises further insights into the brand’s direction with their NAS solution and its accompanying software and services, warranting a closer examination as development progresses.

UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NASync Review – Software

At the time of writing, the UGREEN NAS software is still in beta, with the mobile application is live now. Reviewing the software included with the DXP8800 Plus—as a final product—feels somewhat premature. The NASsync software beta reveals many baseline functions and long-term plans, detailed in the video below in our initial overview and first impressions of the UGREEN NAS software:

You can read the MASSIVE Software review (covering the Desktop and Mobile experience) HERE on the NASCompares Review Article.

Alternatively, you can watch the video version of the UGREEN UGOS NAS Software Beta Review in the video below:

The TL;DR on the UGREEN NAS software (UPDATED)

it’s on track to become a smooth and user-friendly experience, comparable to giants like Synology and QNAP, especially in terms of the web browser experience. Unlike opting for the complexity of TrueNAS or the streamlined, container-focused UI of UnRAID, the UGREEN NAS software is more akin to Synology DSM. The foundation is clearly laid out for expansion in terms of features and tools for the user’s disposal. However, there are notable absences of baseline applications such as container or virtual machine support, and a multi-tiered backup solution within the web GUI (though the UGREEN NAS mobile and desktop clients are in development, expected to preview in March). Basic services for file management, shares, user account control, and an app center—soon to be linked to a repository—are all user-friendly but present some inconsistencies, likely due to its beta status and ongoing development. The physical product may be closer to final development, but the software needs more time for optimization. SMB services were less consistent than desired, and settings changes sometimes didn’t save or recall correctly. This is common for beta software finding its footing, yet it’s important to note that the hardware feels more refined than the software at this stage, months before user delivery. In brief:

What I liked:

  • Intuitive UI with services located logically and responsive controls.
  • The mobile application for iOS and Android is one of the best I have ever used in NAS!
  • Baseline services such as network interface management, user account control, firewall handling, and SSH interface control are all present.
  • A clearly defined app center awaiting connection to an online repository.
  • Helpful tips and guidance are available on most pages, aiding new users.
  • Support for modern services like SMB3 multi-channel and domain services in the beta.
  • Clear account and resource management accessible from the desktop, likely appealing to most users.
  • The inclusion of a remote access relay service and UGREEN account creation from day one, simplifying remote access for new users with built-in firewall and domain tools.
  • UPDATE 5/4/24 – The HDMI output is now full controllable via the mobile application and is intiuative
  • UPDATE 5/4/24 – A Docker application has now been added with access to numerous repository options!
  • UPDATE 5/4/24 – SSH is now disabled by default

What I disliked:

  • Absence of two-factor authentication in the software.
  • Lack of virtualization applications at this stage.
  • Sporadic SMB performance.
  • The Security Advisor tool is only suitable for Antivirus and Anti-Maleware protection, not to scan the system for security weaknesses and advisory actions
  • The HDMI output cannot be used by the desktop/browser user to the same extent as the mobile application + cannot be used by container tools (Plex, Home Automation, etc)
  • In-progress language integration, leading to occasional default displays in Chinese or error messages in Chinese despite English settings.

Improvements needed:

  • Expansion of app integration and desktop client tools for easier system-client bridging.
  • Introduction of a default application for device discovery on the local network, a basic service offered by many NAS brands.
  • More information on UGREEN account and remote access security.

Acknowledging this is a beta, it’s fair to reserve full judgment until the software fully rolls out. As it stands, this beta is promising yet lacks some established NAS software fundamentals. Hopefully, we’ll see significant advancements as the release approaches.

UGREEN DXP8800 Plus NAS Storage Review – Verdict and Conclusion

Much like the rest of the NASync series, the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS 8-Bay NAS is incredibly good value in terms of hardware and, if you are looking for the very best desktop NAS hardware for the price point available in the market – the DXP8800 PLUS is truly unbeatable in its specifications, build quality and overall physical presentation. Even going full ‘DiY’ and trying to build a system of this calibre yourself (case, cables, i5 embedded mobo, 2 port 10GbE card, 2 NVMe, 8 SATA, case, cooling, etc), you would struggle to beat the sub $999 of this system by a meaningful margin. Add to this the fact that UGREEN have now softened their stance on 3rd party NAS OS’ on their NAS devices having no aggressive impact on your 3-year hardware warranty has won a lot more users over, as the DXP8800 PLUS becomes the perfect TrueNAS or UnRAID NAS for users who don’t want the hassle of building from scratch, chasing multiple warranty’s and silicon paste under the fingernails! Genuinely, it is impossible to fault the DXP8800 PLUS on a hardware level (it’s not even that noisy, compared to other 8-Bay NAS in the market at least).

When it comes to software and performance, however, things are a little more complicated. The UGREEN NAS software (UGOS) is still very much in beta, and it feels likes it. The system (at time of writing) has still yet to complete initial crowdfunding and development of the software is still on-going (so we are still judging a software OS that hasn’t finished). But nevertheless, the absence of services such as 2 factor authentication, WORM, a comprehensive security monitor, volume encryption, a virtual machine hypervisor, broader 3rd party cloud sync and backup tools, etc – the absence of these (as well as inconsistencies in the software and performance, that arguably are possibly related to it’s beta status) lead to it being hard to recommend the DXP8800 PLUS on a software level. However, this system will not see physical fulfilment to backers till at least June/July at the very earliest, which is still a decent amount of time to polish the software and roll out beta’s of individual services that are promised on the UGREEN roadmap. Perhaps you are looking at the DXP8800 PLUS series for TrueNAS/UnRAID/OMV etc, or simply to set it up for local SMB storage for your backups and then use the docker app to run Plex. For those users, the DXP8800 is an absolute bargain. Just remember that we are still talking about Kickstarter and crowdfunding (still an odd move by such a big brand) and therefore this needs to be treated as such, not comparable to traditional retail! Overall, I am hugely impressed and look forward to seeing where this system, UGOS and UGREEN go in the exciting world of NAS in the next year or two. The DXP8800 PLUS is a BEAST of a NAS in terms of hardware, but the software is still WiP.

PROS of the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS CONS of the UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS
PCIe Expandability
8 HDDs + 2x Gen 4 M.2 in 1 box under $999
Good Balanced CPU choice
10GbE Dual Ports!
An SD Card Slot (wierdly rare!)
10/10 Build Quality
Great Scalability
Fantastic Mobile Application (even vs Synology and QNAP etc)
Desktop/Browser GUI shows promise
Established Brand entering the NAS Market
Not too noisy (comparatively)
Very Appealing retail package+accessories
10GbE Performance was less than expected
Crowdfunding choice is confusing
Software (still in Beta) is still far from ready 18/4/24

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      551 thoughts on “UGREEN DXP8800 PLUS NAS Review

      1. I don’t know much about networking but I am using link aggregation from the Naz to a 8-port switch. I tried to get thunderbolt networking going but I didn’t have any luck. For some reason my motherboard from Asus will not detect my network card. So I’m going to have to send the motherboard back. I am thinking what is my best bet to get faster than 1 gig speed on my PC? If I added another Network card should I grab a 2 quart 10 g or do I need a 20 g 2 port?
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      2. DXP6800 Pro, with 6x2TB Ironwolf SSD’s plus 2x4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe’s + 64GB RAM. Set up single storage pool w/ 6 SSD’s (12TB, 8TB usable). Updated to newest FW. Rebooted a couple of times. Problem – in Storage Manager, there is no option to add SSD Cache. Should be found by clicking the 3 dots to the right of the storage pool. That pull-down menu does not list SSD caching at all. Further, under Hard Disks it shows the 2 NVMe drives and says they are both “normal”. Are these NAS incompatible with Crucial P3+ NVMe’s?? This is frustrating.
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      3. I see this thing for €999,99 with 8GB of RAM and no SSDs and that’s 500 bucks too much.The UGREEN Software sucks donkey balls. Maybe they should hire someone who actually knows how to tune Linux and SAMBA…
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      4. If I just use it as aNetworkdrive with two NVMEs for writing and reading cache + HDDs, and turn anything else off, make it not reachable, I should be fine? Or is the certificate breach a problem still?
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      5. If there is an ECC Ram and NFS I can’t do it.

        Also that static noise when you’re testing the fan noise is because the Nas is not well sealed from interference. I bet you it would fail FCC regulations for interference if it was scrutinized
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      6. Please show how to get into the memory module area. that piece is not coming out after removing all the screws for me. Almost all the reviewers wer simply skipping that part and just jump into that memory module area which tells me it is either painful or needs a special tool. I followed the manual to the letter and it is not coming out for me to upgrade the memory module.
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      7. Please explain how you disassembled the server casing. I removed the rubber caps from the back and unscrewed the 4 screws, but I still cannot remove the server casing. I want to replace the UGREEN disk with another one and install a different OS. Video Chapters 19:24 – Internal Hardware
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      8. Can you make a comparison amojg these third party NAS vs the stock systems? If you would do that, can you check whether all the connection ports are functioning well with the third party systems. Much appreciated.
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      9. Hey! fantastic review and I am setting mine up as we speak! I am curious what 2 port 10G card you used with it? I want to buy that one or one you would recommend!
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      10. Great video! Hi everyone, I am a newbie to this type of thecnology, but I would lie to set up Plex on my NASync 480t Plus so that I can copy all my UHDVD movies on the NAS to easily access it from anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction/video on how to actually set it up step by step – again newbie. Thank you in advance.
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      11. I got a DX 4600 . A previous generation product. It was quiet in the first place. But it become much noisy because the losen hdd rack. I hope this product line will be better.
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      12. I got my DXP4800+ a few days ago (as of this post) and while the default software looks more polished, I’m now struggling with network speed issues (facepalm). Latest software version is not helping. Goes full throttle for a few seconds, then it drops to a crawl (kb/s) I may have to give a 3rd party software a go at this rate. But I knew what I was getting myself into, so it’s just annoying, not game breaking xD

        Can’t say the same for innocent people who only wanted an off the shelf experience though.
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      13. Just got my ugreen nas setup and installed plex docker, pulled up the web interface running from the nas, I point it to folders on the nas containing my videos, it will not show any media, not sure what I am doing wrong here!
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      14. hello I’ve been wondering if I you could tell me if the the backup program can delete the photos of my iPhone, once they are uploaded to the NAS through wifi?
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      15. Great video! Very informative. Newbie here. I just received mine 1 hour ago, and I would like to set it up sometime this week. I need some help figuring out some questions:
        1. The device came with an 8gb SODIMM DDR 5. Should I keep it and add another 32gb or should I install 2 x 16gb (not sure how the ram is processed)
        2. Should I buy two 4 TB SSD nvme 2.0 and add two other at a later date or should I buy four 2TB now (asking because the 4TB ssd are a bit expensive).
        Thank you.
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      16. How did you get hardware transcoding to work with Plex via docker? I’m running the DXP-4800 Plus and I cannot for the life of me get HW transcoding to work. I have the Plex lifetime subscription and the toggles enabled in Plex. I just be missing something with the docker container config.
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      17. Would you consider making a step by step Docker Plex setup guide for the new Ugreen NASync systems, now that its actually shipping out to the backers of the Kickstarter?
        I know that its one of the most asked questions on the Facebook group, is how to get Plex running.

        Since there is no native Plex app coming in the near future on UGNAS, it leaves these backers with no other choice but to use Docker.

        I find the idea of making a docker compose file very intimidating and would much rather a pro like yourself do all the work, and I just copy what you did. (SORRY IF THAT SOUNDS HORRIBLE)

        I have a 2 Bay Synology NAS I have been using for Plex and will need to move my content from the Synology NAS to my new 8 Bay UGreen NAS, do you think this will be a seamless process, or is it basically starting from scratch?
        Especially since I am going from the Native Synology Plex app, to Docker.

        Thank you!
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      18. @nascompares Can you PLEASE do an in depth how to set up Plex with docker on UGREEN? A lot of people including me are getting the NAS’s now. I have never used docker. Would love a step by step plex setup on UGREEN. Thanks.
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      19. Can anyone tell me what is the clearence hight for the M2 NVME (if for example it will fit the : MP600 PRO LPX 4TB PCIe Gen4 x4 NVMe M.2 SSD or the MP600 PRO XT 8TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen. 4 x4 SSD) ?
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      20. Just received my nas and started plex via docker on Volume 1 (ssd). Added media folder from Volume 2 (hdd). Plex shows the folder as empty. Anyone got any ideas?
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      21. Thanks for the review. I’ve got a DS720+ which I have outgrown and was planning to get a DS423+ since it is still an Intel chip that can support HW transcoding with Plex but im re-considering this.

        Clearly the Ugreen OS is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR away from how polished the DS software is for non tech enthusiasts but if TrueNas is supported I think I can live with that. I worked my entire life in IT and the last thing I want/need is to maintain my own hardware.

        Id rather have a dedicated device, plop the disks, initialize, setup and deploy my containers. VMs are a plus but not really important for me since I need containerization more.
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      22. If I am editing 4k CDNG or 6k BRAW video files in davinci resolve, would i get essentially the same performance with this NAS wired connection than with a Thunderbay8? It looks like they have the same USBC thunderbolt ports and the price is even cheaper to the TB
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      23. Robbie as always you show us all of the incredible new NAS devices. And this is the one small users have been waiting for, too. Great, great video. Cheers.
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      24. Becaus uou can run third party software it is much more time proof then the others were software is nit getting updates and force you to use online connections. This could be my new truneas server replacement (now use a old xeon pc) that i bought in parts, it was very very cheap.
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      25. Been seeing a lot pop up with this new company. Just nervous with new companies that they might end up like DROBO and then you are stuck with no more service or updates.
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      26. There is a non-technical reviewer who had close to 10gb transfers from the 4-bay after upgrading to 64gb and making sure that the drive the utility moving and accepting data was running on their their nvme and not their sata ssd. You can definitely get faster speeds.
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      27. It appears that the campaign isn’t open for us to contribute from the United Kingdom, but for the United States and Germany only ….am I missing anything here?
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      28. I backed it at the $899 but as soon as it arrives I will be installing unraid without ever launching ugreens software. Is it possible to use the OS nvme slot for Plex meta data?
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      29. Could you please specify dimension (H x W x D) and weight (Kg) of the package for the DXP8800 Plus?

      30. I just watched another review of this, and the idle power consumption was insanely high, 30 watts. It’s very disappointing if it will be that high… Arguably it should be around 5-6-8W idle for a device like this.
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      31. The only reason I’ve not signed up for the 6-bay model is the limited choice of countries that are allowed to purchase at the discounted price – currently the marketing is just hype for most of the world with products being sold at prices we will never have access too. If I ever do get my hands on one, my first test will be to see if Proxmox installs as the configuration makes one hell of a platform for a lot of projects.
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      32. Great reviews as always. I’m new to the NAS scene and have ordered the DXP8800 Plus and wondering what hardware you’d kit this machine out with. I’d like 6 HDD’s maybe 20TB each in Raid 6 and 2 SSD’s and 2 M.2’s. Finally upgrade the RAM for virtual machine scenarios. How would you fully utilise this hardware from Ugreen and what brands and models of components would you use? Cheers ????
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      33. I joined the presale today of the dxp8800+. Seen them for awhile but looked at the costs vs other Nas . I really think this will be a good buy for a media server for plex. I plan on loading it all with 18TB drives. Upping the memory to 64gb and 2 2tb m.2s. Should be a beast.
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      34. I actually think the access door on the bottom side should have been designed to reduce the space between it and the NVMe SSDs. That way those massive thermal pads could be a more conventional size. I mean, good god, those things are huge,………..(that’s what she said).
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      35. I backed this project at the most save money time, and they actually offer to get any of the other units at the same time for the same savings. I did not as I was unsure of the unit. On paper they look fantastic though.
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      36. I am glad that UGreen has blown away the status quo. Hoping we see a new generation of NAS units with more capable hardware and upgradability as the new norm.
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      37. Your effort to clarify Ugreen NAS innovations is fantastic. Thanks! Could you think of a video about the opposite view of the equation like “Best Ugreen NAS for content creators” (THE ULTIMATE WORKFLOW FOR EDITING AND STORAGE)”? or less dramatic lol… and compare the units
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      38. Personally due to the fact they did not include the UK in the kickstarter campaign, and since NASCompares is based in the UK and we can’t buy it, I am going with the Asustor Flashstore 12 Pro, I recently bouhgt the Asustor Lockstore 4 Gen 2 and I added 4 x 18 Seagate Ironwolf Pro, all for file storage and plex server, and cloud storage, macbook air and macbook pro backups and more storage for my numerous Raspberry Pi setups., as well as home automation. Will use the Asustor Flashstore 12 Pro as a silent Plex server sitting under my wall mounted TV. So Asustor Lockstore 4 gen 2 will have duplicate copy of Plex files for back up.
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      39. I’m mostly interested in serving files and media; I want to clean off a lot of things on my hard drive, and the accumulation of USB drives in the house is getting to be a bit much. I backed the 6-bay. Probably more than I’ll need, but I figured having the better processor and more bays doesn’t hurt, and future-proofs me to an extent.
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      40. Thanks for this. I always appreciate your attention to detail on these reviews. I wouldn’t buy a piece of NAS hardware you hadn’t made a video on at this point. 🙂

        I’m a bit stunned on the lane difference between the two slots. I’d expect that on an AliExpress demon board or something, but that is clearly not how the product is marketed, and it’s not acceptable for a machine at that price point targeted at creators, IMHO (he says, having backed the 8 bay model).

        I wonder if the 6 bay model does the same thing with its lanes.

        If that’s a hardware restriction that can’t be fixed, I’m going to seriously consider cancelling my pledge. For that price, those slots should run at full speed.

        Thanks for taking the time to follow up with UGREEN. 🙂
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      41. Is it possible that adding the PCIe card is what throttled the second NVMe card? I just built a new desktop and had to make sure I used the right PCIe and NVMe slots so my OS SSD wouldn’t get throttled and also wouldn’t kill access to two of my SATA ports.
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      42. Tho use network performance numbers look terrible – and they are far below what Storage Review showed on the 6 Bay. At one point they showed 2x10GbE saturation on one of their results (flashed on the screen).
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      43. Just need to point out that all Macs have for years supported Thunderbolt networking, even the old Intel Macs – and that Thunderbolt is at this point from Intel and not exotic. Just because the NAS sector treats it that way, does. It means it actually is – and I would argue Thunderbolt is far more common than 8k (and far more useful) and so deserves at least as much attention as 8k.

        I would appreciate if you would stop making it sound exotic in order to help normalize TB for your community and to normalize it as a product expectation for modern NAS units. If it is desirable enough for storage transfer to eat the hardware engineering costs, then it is also desirable for peer to peer for the same reasons.
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      44. PCIe devices can readily downgrade their link speed when not in use. It’s entirely normal to observe a “downgraded” link when the device is idle, although this capability also depends on BIOS and OS settings. Recently, one of our clients was puzzled by why their GPU was showing only a 1-lane link speed, but it turned out to be in an idle state.

        There was a recent lspci output from the 6-bay system that caused some concern because, in that specific test unit (although it’s uncertain about production units), they used the same 4-port SATA chip as the one used in the 4800 Plus model. Since this chip is a 4-port SATA chip, it implies the use of port replication in that particular unit, which could potentially cause issues with TrueNAS. I’m not requesting a check of TrueNAS compatibility on this device, but if you have a moment, could you please look into the SATA chip used for the backplane? I would greatly appreciate this information.
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      45. Here’s a question: If one was to procure the 4-bay NAS, but only populate it at the start with two HDD’s, what level of effort will there be to install additional drives (storage) in the empty bays later on? Thanks!
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      46. Very interesting product – I’ve been looking for something exactly like this. To be honest as a consumer user I’m not even that focused on getting top performance out of it. I’d be quite fine with a few hundred MB/s over ethernet via file shares. The main factor for me is the compact size, the quiet operation, the hopefully low idle power consumption, and the flexibility of it as a platform. But, I also have to say that at 800 euros it’s getting pretty expensive for a regular consumer who wouldn’t use it for work related tasks. And if someone is using it for work, then maybe they’d have a lot more options to look at from more established professional brands.
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      47. Please do a test with a 3rd party OS and jumbo frames. That hardware should easily saturate a 10 GBe link even if it’s just full of spinning rust with an NVMe cache. I get better transfer speed going to a 2 bay Synology over 2.5 GBe from my desktop than you were going over 10 GBe. It has to be the overhead taxed from the lack of jumbo frame support in the OS. Let’s be honest, not a single person backing this product gives a shit about the native OS, as a matter of fact, the selling point is that I can put anything I want on it, even if it voied the warranty I wouldn’t care. How would they know? I can just plop the original NVMe back in and send it back for repair. If people really care about product support from a software level, they’re barking up the wrong tree buying anything funded by a crowdfunding campaign.
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      48. Orico has a new 8 Bay USB DAS (I bought one for 144 $ on Alibaba). Which could be paired with a 250$ mini pc to basically get the same results as this 1000$ unit. I wish you had a video comparing them 🙂
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      49. at this point, i’m just hoping for a solid software with many apps and features, aside from this, ugreen got my money straight away, i almost bought a synology nas for backing up my photos mainly, but ugreen came at the best moment
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      50. I saw you touched on the thunderbolt ports, but I did not quite fully understand you explanation. What do you mean when you say it will only be a host? Would I be able to connect a thunderbolt compatible computer and transfer files back and forth using the cable at full speeds?
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      51. Can the software expand the raid pool by adding disks on the fly (5 drives in raid 6 -> 6 drives for example)? I would love to get the 8-bay and add drives as I need them, rather than purchasing all at once.
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      52. Looking forward to the 6-bay. That’s the one I backed. Just now to decide how much storage I want to shoot for next. Should hopefully arrive before I go on a cruise in your region from London to Bergen
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      53. I tried to reserve this model when it was announced, right after you started posting about them. the $5 payment didnt get thru. Now with it up about $80 I’m not sure Im going to risk it.
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      54. For anyone wondering about the ECC support – DDR5 ODECC is not true ECC – “While traditional ECC ensures data integrity by handling memory errors while data is being moved, on-die ECC ensures higher reliability of higher-density memory and protects the data that is in the memory chip.” All the Ugreen NAS support ODECC, which is great,… but it is not full ECC… so,.. e.g. ZFS will not benefit for data in transit.
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      55. Finally the review I’ve been waiting for! I backed the 8-bay and recently even added the 6-bay version to my pledge. As soon as I saw the specs of the 8-bay, I knew it was the NAS for a data hoarder like me! ???? I was still a little hesitant though because of their lackluster software but as soon as I found out that it is possible to install 3rd party OS like TrueNAS, unRAID, OMV, etc. and that the hardware is still covered by the warranty, I couldn’t resist anymore and backed their Kickstarter campaign! ????

        I’m also hoping they soon add multi-factor authentication too and the option to change the MTU to around 9000 to be able to fully utilize the 10GbE connection. I’m not too worried security-wise though as I plan to place this NAS behind a hardware firewall and not open it directly over the Internet (as any security conscious person should!). This is even more important since their software is very new and is at high risk of 0-day attacks and vulnerabilities.

        Another feature I’m hoping they add is options for data checksum for advanced data integrity with data scrubbing in UGOS software since this NAS doesn’t support ECC memory. Having this feature will make this NAS more resistant to bitrot and have the ability of self-healing corrupted files when doing data scrubbing.

        Btw those are some awesome noise levels! It’s much more silent than I anticipated. But I doubt it will be that silent if you are using Seagate EXOS drives. ????

        The power draw isn’t that bad either! That’s another one of my concerns. The power consumption they mentioned on ther Kickstarter page was much higher than your results. Maybe they have further tweaked both the hardware and software to improve power efficiency.

        Anyways keep it up! Great review as always! I’ll be looking foward to your review of the 6-bay unit which I also backed on their Kickstarter page. ????
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      56. I’ve started seeing more and more established companies using crowdfunding to pre-load their R&D or manufacturing spend. This includes the unofficial crowdfunding methods like pre-orders with a 30-day or longer lead time before the product is actually released. I not really a fan of this mentality. In the case of ugreen I also think this is inappropriate as it shifts a lot of the risk to the customer.
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      57. I am looking into buying this unit for PLEX. Would you recommend it, and that kind of optimization would do for that? Or is there a better option out there for 4k streaming?
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      58. Could you try installing Windows 11/Server or a Linux distro with a GUI, plug in a monitor to that HDMI port and see what happens? I’m surprised no one has tried it yet ????????‍♂️
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      59. Just listening to the list of vendors you mentioned at the end, and I ended up wondering: whatever happened to Thecus? I remember they used to have some interesting ones back in the days when I was coming off D-link.
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      60. Is it just me or is their OS looking a lot like a ripoff of DSM?

        Also, I find the Thunderbolt and SD card slot very gimmicky for a NAS. Your NAS should be somewhere hidden, and your thunderbolt port isn’t going to be reaching any speeds of use off a network.
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      61. if one wants to simply play tv shows & movies via plex, is there any reason to get the plus version of the 4 bay instead of the non-plus of the 4 bay? thanks for your reviews!
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      62. I am new to this and many people recommend buying Synology or QNAP.

        They say Synology is more consumer grade whereas QNAP is more business grade. Is that true?

        What are the biggest differences and which one do you recommend?
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      63. I remember you mentioning that you basically lose money doing this UGREEN series so another tremendous THANK YOU! This is the model I backed so I’m looking forward to it even more. I’m sure UGREEN watches your videos so they should know that a lot of buying with confidence is due to your selfless work.
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      64. Robbie what are your thoughts on using those Dell X540 T2 cards without the typical 200lfm required airflow? I’ve been looking at these and HBA cards which were designed to live in a rack unit with Delta screamers forcing air through the chassis.
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      65. Another reason I just realized that they went to kick starter is to build a customer base. That way they don’t have to get the software perfect out the gate. And then they will have a base to attract others once the software is good.
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      66. I backed this, but I think before the campaign ends I’m probably going to cancel it. If I do a build with the W680 chipset I get QuickSync AND ECC, which seems like the gold standard for a NAS build. Those motherboards are pricey, but it doesn’t seem like it’s worth saving a bit of money to miss out on ECC.

        The problem is basically every NAS chassis I can find pisses me off in one way or another. I wish there was a NAS chassis in this shape and style with full ATX support and hotswap bays.
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      67. I’ve been watching your reviews on this NAS and I feel like from what you said, im going to risk it and get the 6 bay from them. I have no real need for a NAS but I want one to have a network at home to stream movies. Great stuff, i hope they continue to improve the software.

        Would anyone know if you can run emulators off of it like NES so i can play old games from a TV?
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      68. Thank you very much for this review and the whole UGreen NAS Series! For the noise, I guess I would buy some Noctua fans before buying extra RAM 🙂 Exchanging built in fans with Noctua fans on brand new device became a normal practice for me. At the moment, pairing the hardware with TrueNAS Scale is the winning combination. I’m really like how UGreen handles the constructive feedback and how they are improving the software. Let’s see what will they deliver when they start shipping devices.
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      69. Thanks for the review, great content as usual. Fairly recently discovered your channel but I am a fan! Primarily wanted to write this comment because of your sweatshirt though. ???? It gave me a hearty chuckle and I agree wholeheartedly. Rats of the skies, I call them. The average pigeons are well-adjusted by comparison!
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      70. TrueNAS Scale compatibility was my sticking point. Looking at other videos that does not seem to be an issue. Ordered it from the kickstarter. Will pair it with 4 16GB Ironwol Pro (don’t need more than that) and 2 4GB NVMe drives. Will just need to figure out the RAM specs so I can bump RAM to 64GB.
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      71. I wonder if you can fit an RTX 4000 ada in that slot? Load this with TrueNAS and you can bypass the still not ready native O/S. This might make a decent system to play with some AI models. I have been sold on ZFS for quite some time despite the limitations (old Solaris admin here). Bit rot is real.
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      72. Fantastic review, as always. I’ve backed the six bay, so its nice to see the larger form factors with increased capabilities.
        I wonder whether the performance on the second m.2 drive would still be downgraded if PCI slot was empty?
        Which also begs the question: What is the R/W performance on a PCI based storage card in the system?
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      73. So both NVME are PCIE 4.0 x4 but for some reason the second nvme slot on your unit is operating at x1? Do let us know what they tell you the issue is… I backed the 6 disk model which I think is the exact same board just 2 more sata
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      74. Thank you!! Looking forward to the 6 bay review. Excellent review as always 🙂 I agree the hardware is very impressive. Looking to upgrade from a ~2015 WD system. QUESTION:: A make-or-break item for me is the (1) using one NMVE as a cache (possible?) (2) using the other NVME as a drive that is mirrored into a folder structure of the warm storage of the magnetic SATAs. Is this viable on this system??? @NASCompares
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      75. make my own case, these are overpriced… hba + drives + embedded or newegg deal call it a win they basically want around 300 for the case if you add it up mobo 200/cpu 200/ 64g ram 200/ 75 psu/ 50 hba/ 50 used network cards and then you get option to add so much more. And depending on what you want you can use cheaper mobo/cpu etc
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      76. as someone who is OCD, the hdd bay sequence numbering 1,2,3,4,7,5,6,8 made me uncomfortable… lol.
        anyway, thanks for the great review. actually i have backed the kickstarter with 6-bay NAS.
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      77. Great if you want a Ugreen NAS if you live in US or Germany at the Kickstarter price. The rest of the world will have to wait until Ugreen get around to them – and of course the Kickstarter special price wont be available.
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      78. I would Iike a mini-PC version of this with 10GbE, HDMI 2.1, and Displayport 2.0 at the back and USBs, SD-card reader, and thunderbolt 4 connectivity at the front panel. ????
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      79. After Storaxa left a bad taste in my mouth, I took the money I got back from my bank and put it into this. I only care for the hardware. Only if the software gets as good as synology would I consider anything other than unraid.
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      80. Once again Youtubers not knowing wtf they are doing. You mention your dd “benchmark” not being cached, but it is.. That’s why your first two measurement are significantly slower; they are the real Q1T1 read speed and why copying between the drives is similarly slow. Did you really think solid state drives needs a few seconds/runs to “warm up” first, lol? Fast NVMe needs more than QD1 to achieve max sequential performance, which makes dd a terrible benchmark for them.
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      81. Like most modern hardware I’m not comfortable assuming it will continue to be supported. They could just pull a Google/Phillips and leave me with a useless piece of hardware.

        I may not want to run custom hardware right now, but if UGREEN decide to end support, I want to know that I can replace the software and continue using the hardware in the future.
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      82. Wow, so I can install TrueNas on these devices. That is very interesting, if this becomes a truly supported feature, I’ll buy one that day. Well I guess I’ll back one that day.
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      83. It just occurred to me that one could probably bang in four or five of those NVMe to SATA cards (each usually support 4 or 5 SATA ports) into one of these UGreen models and be able to support something like~25 SATA HDD or ~25 SATA SSDs.
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      84. why not just backup the internal NVME (clonezilla/dd) and then install to it. this is just a PC after all, off the shelf parts, etc. the idea of giving up a drive bay is nuts.
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      85. Thank you very much for the shoutout! I’m really glad UGREEN is flipping their position on this issue, it makes the NAS a lot more attractive to a wider potential customer base. Seems like you figured out a pretty solid method for installing other OSes as well. Keep up the good work!
        – Logan
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      86. Unfortunately, there’s no RTSP (yet). They replied to a comment in the campaign that it’s in their “need to do” list, which seems like it won’t be available anytime soon.
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      87. There seems to be a lot of negativity around the number of reviews for this here, and that it’s a kickstarter. To be fair there are lots of reviews on this site for different manufacturers, so I don’t see any special treatment of Ugreen. Also, as a video editor this is exactly what I’ve been looking for, and based on this review, and the fact it’s Ugreen, if I could I’d be buying off the kickstarter, but sadly just Germany and US. I understand if you have large amounts of data this NAS would be limiting but as an editor it’s perfect, I still have a Terramaster with 24gigs in it to offload completed jobs. I am currently editing off the Terramaster but even with 10Gbe it struggles editing 4K due to the Platter drives.
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      88. When you tested Proxmox, did you test if you could pass through the entire disk controller to the TrueNAS VM? I saw somewhere that this didn’t work, but can’t find confirmation.
        BTW, thanks a lot for continuing to cover these devices. I think they have great hardware, but as you said, the OS needs work. You rock!
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      89. I’ve been waiting for this video since UGREEN showed their NASes at CES. Great work, thank you! It’s a relief to hear that installation of a 3rd party OS is easy and doesn’t require fiddling with the hardware. Your videos are super helpful. Keep up the good work mate! ????
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      90. It still bugs me with mini PCs and this, that manufacturers are so wedded to the 4x4x2 (ish) form factor, that you can’t just chuck a Noctua fan in them when if it were maybe an inch or so larger, there’d be more than enough room for it. Or just sell the base version, and an upgraded fancy case.
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      91. In your honest opinion… QNAP TVS-h874-i5 vs DXP8800 PLUS what the better option? I’m asking because I use PLEX, and my HDD keeps on dying. I need to invest in something serious to keep my movie collection safe and handle my 4k movies. Thanks for your work!
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      92. It would be REALLY NICE if they decided to sell these in two tiers: 1) as originally offered and 2) Bare, NO os and NO os drive, at a (hopefully greatly) reduced price for the hax0rs among us.
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      93. hi thanks for clearing up if the mobile app will automatically upload your photos to the Nas or you will have to do it manually… thanks for clearing that up again. thanks for all your reviews. keeping us up to date on the UGreen Nas, it’s very informal. thanks again.
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      94. 3rd party OS is also a thing when the hardware itself is good, but the software is not supported anytime in the future. Nothing as bad as when you have to get a new device with completely new, totally different software, because the manufacturer decides what you can do with your device. Or how about removing functionality from the device you purchased via updates?

        With 3rd party software you have consistency, you don’t have to learn new environments and you don’t get your features taken away (that easily). New device? Pull the drives out the old one, into the new one, install your OS, import the config files and there you go. With proprietary OS the hassle can be massively more difficult…
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      95. Sweet! I’m still going to replace the internal NVME so I can keep the two for real use. As long as you do not damage a device, they can’t void the warranty. That’s been settled in the US for a while.
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      96. Is it possible to move easily from UGOS to unRAID – without affecting your current raid and the data within the drives? Like, installing unRAID and (more or less) just use the same raid configuration and the data within it, that has been gathered while using UGOS?
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      97. So it looks like there’s no crazy stuff like Terramaster resetting their boot order to the internal USB… good. But I still don’t think they are very open to people removing UGOS, simply from the fact they still put warranty void stickers on one of the screws.
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      98. Hi and THANK YOU for the explanation. Although I am still undecided whether I should leave the pre-order as it is or really cancel it before the deadline expires. It is important that this Ugreen software is really stable, security is given and if it really should not be so that you can avoid third-party providers and not lose the warranty. I’m looking forward to your next video and wish you a nice day.????
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      99. If only it was fanless, passively cooled. There’s a missed opportunity not making it perfectly silent IMO. The most interesting option I’ve seen so far is the one LTT looked at recently, the Friendlyelec CM3588.
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      100. No one in their right mind would replace Synology’s DSM on one of their devices, assuming whatever version is still supported by Synology. Let’s hope UGOS matures to such a level that no one would look to run a third-party OS on a Ugreen NAS. [I have the all-flash unit on order.]
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      101. I need Ugreen to understand: they have built their brand on hardware. it’s what they’re good at. their hardware is great! *this* hardware is great! the all-Flash machine is imo a *perfect* Proxmox machine up there with the Minisforum MS-01 (just a little more focused on NVMe storage – so a perfect Ceph node). they really need to be less stubborn about their OS. it is not serving them well.
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      102. Nailed it. I’m not really wanting to risk my data to a new Nas OS. Plus some of us might be comfortable with another OS. I told them on the Kickstarter page – They should continue to develop the OS while allowing 3rd party. When the NASync OS is super good, I am sure many people won’t bother switching. But I do hope they always continue to allow an option.
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      103. UGreen backpaddled like crazy when seeing the initial backlash. Without backlash they would not have done so… This is why it is so important to give companies all hell when doing trying to pull shady crap.
        I do applaud UGreen’s decision nonetheless. This is now a contender for me personally.
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      104. @nascompares Have you seen the video of this NAS showing how crappy the thermal paste they used on the CPU and that replacing it got the temps to go down to almost half? It was in German though but you can see clearly they didn’t do a good job on the thermal paste application. I hope they switch this to a high quality thermal pads or better yet… liquid metal instead.

        My Minisforum mini-PC uses liquid metal and the temps are great! It idles around 30°C and doesn’t go above 80°C when stressing it.
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      105. Cheers mate. While I have still backed the 8 bay, I’m more and more feeling like I’m going to cancel and go DIY. I’m just not sure saving $500 is worth losing ECC support and IPMI and such since I’m going to do ZFS. But it seems like everything will be a compromise unless I put in a rack.

        I’m planning to do a W680 build so I can have QuickSync and ECC support. I’ve looked at different boards, and I can either get a micro ATX board without IPMI or an ATX board with IPMI. But if I go full ATX basically it seems like the only good hotswap chassis with full ATX support are rackmount ones, which is a bummer.
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      106. I must say that you are doing a fantastic job covering this product release. Everything there is to know for us buyers/general audience, but also for Ugreen as a company that needs input on what matters to “the people” in the western NAS and homeserver market. I hope it all works out great for the backers and Ugreen’s NASync series.
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      107. Others did their one and done UGREEN NAS video, so i definitely appreciate your UGREEN series. Each one makes me more and more happy I decided to go with their 8 bay. The amount they have raised so far is impressive. Genuinely curious what they were expecting from it
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      108. Why 3rd party OS ?

        1. Feels like more control and more way to mess with and playaround

        2. Their turkey is still raw (hell kitchen) which suppose to work out of the box

        3. From the tone of their representative i feel trust issue there , sorry mate ,no ???? i wont put my data on your trust me bro development UGOS
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      109. Honestly this is too much fuss and trying to push a manufacturer to do just as everyone pleases. Try that with any Apple device and ask them for support – good luck with that! Just give them time to mature their OS and the apps and until then stay clear of their devices if you are not comfortable with their software!
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      110. Zero chance Ugreen will “support” thirdparty software!
        Allowing the buyer to install thirdparty software is NOT supporting it.

        Supporting XYZ software would mean, the purchasers calling/emailing helpdesk and asking how do I do ABC on TrueNas scale, support would also dictate that Ugreen is at fault if the latest version of Promox doesnt support a feature on Ugreen Nas.
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      111. I don’t think anything has changed, there are lots of folks that think they should get a full warranty running whatever they want, UGreen doesn’t care what you run on it, but if you came to them with a warranty concern and blew out their OS the responsibility doesn’t fall on them to figure out what you did. For those of us used to the deeper end of the pool we all know full well that if you want support you better be able to boot it off the stock image and do the tests they require. Dell, HP, QNAP, and the rest all operate the same way, they can’t be expected to support every distro or OS out there, it’s not realistic and honestly from many of the comments I’ve seen on Kickstarter and Facebook I get the feeling there are a lot of people that are going to do this that don’t know what they are doing.

        Manufacterers requiring you to load a factory image on a device before they do a warranty claim is common practice because they have no idea what you did and they have to use their tools to prove it’s broken. Load TrueNAS core on your Dell box and call them for something like “it randomly powers off” or “it randomly reboots”… They are not supporting FreeBSD and will point at the OS requiring you to boot into a supported environment to run their tests.
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      112. Cheers! This is the simplest explanation of how to install 3rd party OSes. Also, your explanation of UG OS drawbacks is spot on. Early days, not quite right for prime time but a good first effort,…..that needs to develop trust in the industry.
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      113. If the host had demonstrated the Plex client app then I believe transcoding would not have been required and smooth playback easily achieved (which would have ended the video much sooner). I tested, at the same time, 4 streams of the Japan at night 8K file and 3 streams of the 4K 400 Mbps file (on repeat) on 7 devices (mix of PC/Mac/iPad/iPhone) using the Plex client app and transcoding was never required even thought the NAS hosting the content for my Plex server has a measly Atom CPU. The key to doing this was the performance of the NAS storage (600 GB/s+) and the overall network bandwidth, not the processing power of the NAS.

        Older intel based PCs/Macs are a crap shoot when it comes to 8K content. I have an I5-8500 based system that can play 8K Plex content without transcoding via the Plex client app. My i7-8559U equipped laptop stutters when playing 8K content via the Plex client app. Current gen Intel, AMD, and Apple Silicon based systems have absolutely no need to transcode any content when using the Plex client app when it comes to local Plex content.

        TV specific client hardware can be problematic. I did have to upgrade my Apple TV 4K to the current gen as I was network/CPU constrained with my previous device. I did this to avoid transcoding 4K 100 Mbps content. The current gen Apple TV 4K (Wi-Fi only) will play the 250 Mbps HEVC Jellyfish file without transcoding (anything more will stutter) but it will not play the Japan at night 8K HEVC file without transcoding. That is fine with me as my 4K content is currently maxing out at 100 Mbps so I have some headroom if 4K content bitrate increases. I want to avoid local transcoding when it comes to current high quality 4K content and for now that is easy to do.
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      114. I’m wondering about a NAS to put in a car as a media server. After I saw another channel do a video on the FriendlyElec CM3588. I wondered what you thought about something like that. obviously I don’t want to use any spinning disks & that one sounded promising. In the car I was thinking videos wouldn’t need to go above 720 p.
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      115. Do a cost comparison between a client device that can handle all Plex supported codecs vs a NAS whose CPU is powerfull enough to transcode. It is a no brainer to buy a cheap client device vs an expensive CPU powerful NAS. My recommendation is that one should not run a Plex server on a NAS. Reuse an old gaming PC or build a cheap PC and run Plex server directly on the hardware under LInux or in a Linux VM under Proxmox and then access the content via the network. I don’t run my Plex server on my NAS. I don’t use transcoding for client devices on my local network. I do use transcoding when I am remote but my Threadripper based server runnning Plex server in a VM can easily handle transcoding. I don’t have to worry that my 6 year old NAS can’t handle transcoding. The NAS just happily delivers the content to the Plex server via my 10 gigabit network. Treat your NAS as a file server, nothing more. Leave the heavy lifting, if required, to seperate hardware. If, for cost reasons, you need to run Plex on your NAS then don’t worry about the CPU of the NAS if all you are doing is local playback. The simplest and cheapest thing to do is to use a client device that can handle content with no need for transcoding whatsoever.
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      116. A question I’ve been trying to get into touch with UGreen about there mobile app because I have a question if you know the answer that would be great, will the mobile app automatically upload your phone to the Nas or do you have to upload to the Nas manually? If you have to upload manually will they be implementing it in the future so it will upload automatically? Please let me know
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      117. How about a comparison between the zimaboard Nas & this one. They’re both new to the market, both trying to make a name for themselves & create a buzz, so I think it’ll be a good video. I’m curious about purchasing one of them as my first Nas. Primarily interested in speed, value, future expansion & mobile app remote access etc
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      118. It looks like the SSD area would be better served by housing one single fan that takes up the whole area and can spin much slower for near complete silence with the same CFM. The engineering they chose looks slick to be sure, but I abhor tiny fans
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      119. On the down side at this point the drives are going to cost you an organ, unless of course you’re happy going back to a tiny capacity NAS. On the plus side, by the time large drives are affordable we might be on version 10 and it will be much improved.

        Thanks for another nice review it’s good to see where things are going. Will look forward to it becoming mainstream.
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      120. For an old man who doesn’t speak English like me, it’s not easy to follow but I’m trying hard. Thanks for his work on the channel.I ask you if you can tell me about good quality SSDs specifically for NAS with medium and medium/high prices. It would help me a lot. The content he makes on NAS is fantastic ????????
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      121. @nascompares Are those test results using default 8GB RAM or full 64GB RAM? If it’s the default 8GB RAM, can you please redo the tests using 64GB RAM? I’m just curious if it will make any difference. Thanks! ????
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      122. what they told you about the Thunderbolt ports being “host only” doesn’t make any sense. *minimally* , support for Thunderbolt *networking* — that is, point to point, peer to peer connections between two machines (I guess in “NDIS” mode) should be built into the kernel by default. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it can’t just like, become a USB mass storage device, and never would have expected that to begin with. but the idea that it “just can’t” make a Thunderbolt-Thunderbolt connection between itself and another host at ~40G for networking doesn’t pass the smell test. I suspect someone mistranslated something in emails.
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      123. really unfortunate that this system just seems like a solution searching for a problem. I’m really not sure I understand what niche role this actually fills. It just seems so half-baked as presented, with the seemingly alpha-state software (same as the other boxes) and the limited PCIe and Thunderbolt functionality, at the price bracket it’s being sold at.
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      124. The biggest issue is not the supposed risk crowd-funding platforms might have, but the fact UGREEN is using Kickstarter for marketing purposes. UGREEN is a 12 year old Chinese company. I’m pretty sure they have enough experience in the market to determine if a product will sell or not.
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      125. Can you shrill anymore for Ugreen ?.. honestly how about you just say No … I will not “ review” an unfinished non shipping product…. I am really disappointed with your channel lately you might as well just rename it Ugreen
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      126. far from even being useful. the drives are only accessible via a hatch in the bottom of the device??? so one would have to pull the device out of its place, unhook everything and flip it over and…. i wouldn’t want one from free.
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      127. Great review. I would have preferred that they did PCI 4 x2 lanes for each of the 4 instead of using PCI 3 x 2 for 3&4. I’d probably buy if they had they done that. That said, they’ve done a better job than the others.
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      128. Fine if you live in the US or Germany otherwise kind of pointless review “Ugreen NA Sync Series on Kickstarter will be available in the following countries: US, Germany”
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      129. This is so great! Love the videos you make about these Ugreen NAS. Really love this model with m2 SSD, and have backed for one on Kickstarter, so its nice to learn the products more and see what they change based on feedback in the close future close to release!
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      130. I think your videos are just mega. You help many users, including me, to make the right choice. Your diagnosis is precise and quite accurate and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have pre-ordered the DXP 4800 Plus and the DXP 480T Plus because of your videos which I find exciting to follow. I think it’s great that Ugreen has eased up a bit so that you can install other operating systems such as Unraid or Truenas. Thanks for that and I think your work is just great. ????????????????????
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      131. @35:53 – Wow, that is terrible. Might be OK for a single HDD but nobody is spending the money for a 10gbe NMVE NAS for that level of performance when writing large sequential files. If I got this and didn’t see it writing/reading at 900MB/s+ I would assume something is very, very wrong. Until they resolved it, and have proven it isn’t some hardware limitation/bad design that can’t be fixed with software, I wouldn’t fund/order this.
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      132. cute, the asus flashstore comes out better pricewise though and is available with 12 m.2 storage slots, the favorite is still the QNAP TBS-h574TX, shiver down my spine if I just think of five 60 TB drives…that would nicely tidy up my hoarding issue……and ruin me financially as a side effect 😀
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      133. Looks like a great product, I would of bought one but seems they only let Germany and USA back it and get the discounts. Really disappointing that a massive company like Ugreen would use kickstarter, and on top of that making it impossible for other countries is ridiculous.
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      134. This guy is a master of stretching a 5 minute video into 45 minutes. He must have repeated that the ssd and i5 fans are separate about 10 times and doesn’t even get into the technical stuff until 17 minutes in. If you like wasting your time then watch this. I guess he’s just trying to game the algorithm at our expense.
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      135. 0:00: ⚠️ Important disclaimer regarding changes in software updates and features of the reviewed product.
        4:22: ???? UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS offers high performance at a surprisingly low price point for content creators.
        8:51: ???? Detailed analysis of the device’s ventilation system and noise levels during testing.
        14:36: ⚙️ Efficient heat dissipation design with integrated metal plate and fans for NVMe SSD system.
        18:44: ⚡️ High-speed connection with limited network ports but Wi-Fi 6E capability for versatile usage.
        23:06: ???? High-performance SSD NAS with impressive power efficiency, memory support, and hardware architecture.
        27:02: ⚙️ Evaluation of Wi-Fi and Thunderbolt connections in UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS.
        31:00: ⚙️ Evaluation of security features and system settings in the latest firmware update.
        35:07: ⚙️ Performance optimization and network streaming capabilities need improvement in the UGREEN DXP480T Flash NAS.
        39:27: ⚙️ Analysis of internal components reveals consistent high-speed data transfer capabilities.
        43:29: ⚙️ UDX480T Flash NAS offers unique design and features but falls short in performance and connectivity.

        Timestamps by Tammy AI
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      136. If it could do thunderbolt in client mode then that would be a complete game changer. Like this I dont see the advantage over their other boxes which also have 2 SSDs. Essentially it seems like you are getting 2 SSD slots but losing all the HDD slots. If you could use it as highspeed thunderbolt storage, then that would be really cool for people who edit photos and videos on a macbook or something. Did they indicate if they want to add both ways functionality to the thunderbolt?
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      137. I’m new to the NAS home desktop servers. But not the concept. I ran my own Telecommunications Company for 12 years serving large corporations. (HPs International Headquarters, Met Life, Ingersoll-Rand, Burns & Roe, etc) basically 1000 employee workstations or more. Retired in 2010.
        I’ve been watching your channel nonstop trying to find what I consider “bare minimum” for an NAS setup. Which is 2000TB in a RAID2 configuration based on Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray disc size. I’m not reducing quality when I rip. That’s the point. I buy these formats for the quality. I do the same with music, when I rip CDs it’s at 320 unlimited. My music collection is over 7TB alone. I don’t care. I want the quality I’m paying for. Otherwise just get crappy streaming services.
        3 years ago drive sizes were 22TB. 3 years later it’s still the same? WTF is going on. According to Moores Law I should be looking at 96TB drives today?
        So let me just ask strait out.
        What’s the best way right now to build a 2000TB desktop NAS server?
        Thanks for your help.
        Love the videos.
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      138. Another NAS without ECC…catering to the least common denominator yet again. Oh, and NO! $779 is not cheap for a NAS like this without ECC. I just built a 2U rack mount flash setup with ECC and far more capability for just under $1K US.

        Its really sad that a NAS specific channel like this so easily dismisses the fact that all these systems do not have ECC.
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      139. CAT 7 isn’t a real standard for network cabling. UGREEN are providing a cable that is more than likely CAT 6, or even 5E, and mislabeling like the huge number of sellers on Amazon are currently doing.
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      140. Why would I buy a turnkey NAS solution just to install a 3ed party OS on it? ????
        I use Synology for their SW, not their HW. Had I wanted to use TrueNAS/UnRaid, I would have gone the DIY route and got better HW for less $
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      141. Great stuff, Robbie. Do you know whether they will offer something like DSM’s surveillance station and automatic sync of selected folders on PC like via Synology Drive? If they promise these two, I’m on board. Tired of waiting for Synology to catch up with more modern CPUs
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      142. Google doesn’t use pure SSD for data centers. Anyone could’ve used SSD drives for NAS if they want to, it’s just a lot more expensive than regular spinning disks.
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      143. Struggling to see the practical benefits of these boxes. Storage size is still seriously limited compared to SATA drives and being quieter can’t be the biggest selling point
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      144. Great review ,
        Wish they use intel/broadcom/mellanox 10gb chip .
        Also I will never use a 3rd party as software therefore truenas scale is a must to install on this system !

        @nascompares – great video !!
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      145. Thanks for digging into the hardware and showing internal file transfers. Try unraid with zfs1 of 2 or 3 drives and see how fast it is, just to verify it’s not OS/driver related. I think you are correct that the pcie and network are somehow connected to a pcie switch. That would explain the drop. Or that Aquantia nic has incorrect driver. I would pre order one, but can’t as not being able to saturate 10Gb is a no go. I think you’re beating them up too much on the security part. If account is local then let 3rd party do 2 factor, same with malware, etc.
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      146. Another of your amazing detailed videos, thanks Robbie ????
        Whilst I’m not in the market for another NAS, I’m still following along the UGREEN story with interest!

        I’ve been pretty happy with my Lincstation N1 (I got in January at the amazing crowd-funding price of £230 ????, rather than the now Amazon price of £400 ????)
        It’s got 3 (of 4) 2GB NVMe’s and 1 (of 2) 2GB SATA’s installed and whilst the network/drive performance isn’t amazing, it works more than well enough for basic home NAS requirements (it averages around 15-20W’s and the fan is barely noticeable even in a totally silent room!)

        For me in a home environment, low-cost, low-power, lots of functionality (thanks to UNraid) and ‘just enough performance for Plex & home-server stuff’, is more important than worrying about saturating the SATA, NVMe, 2.5Gb, etc limits!!

        I’ve (hopefully ????) got a ZimaCube N100 turning up in the next month or so (got from KS for around £430) at which point the N1 will likely be sold on. The ZC probably won’t be ‘twice’ as useful as the N1 (at almost double the cost), but the 10-bay (6x 3.5″ +4x NVMe) drive capacity, should see me fine for storage for the foreseeable future. Plus the N100 might be a tiny boost over the N5105, and I can increase the memory to 32GB (vs the fixed 16GB in the N1)

        In future, I think I could see the value of a higher performance CPU (more processing power and especially more PCIe lanes).

        Thanks again for all your fantastic NAS coverage (I think you are the GO TO source on YT for this sort of thing ????????)
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      147. Thunderbolt 40g is often thrown around like it’s that speed per port. But it’s often 40 total throughput. So your discovery of 20 per port is pretty typical to how most thunderbolt operates.
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      148. Just glad that we can install 3rd party OS if UGOS isn’t up to the job. Question – in Truenas/Unraid or whatever software you install, are you able to use the USB4/Thunderbolt 4 like normal?
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      149. *IMPORTANT UPDATES* – 1) Power Consumption Tests were removed from this video, as an update to the system services has changed the results and will be revisited in another video very soon. 2) PCIe Lane allocation is under re-investigation, as in post-production I noticed an 8GT/s x4 downgrade that I need to check was unrelated to the tested drive vs system lane allocation. 3) UGREEN states that system optimization is still ongoing and the 10GbE SMB performance will be better in the next large update.
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      150. I agree with you on two factor security being key. I am going to get a unit ones your pleased. I am 84 years old, Physicist, am spend 54 years working on Eglin AFB.
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      151. An AV1 transcode test would be fantastic! Alder Lake has AV1 decode in hardware so normally it should be able to transcode to h264 and AV1 is surely going to become much popular in the future. Really important for future proofing your setup as many devices don’t support AV1 decode yet.
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      152. howdy… the NAS has a hdmi port to connect directly to a TV. can you test PLEX PLayer performance also, and how to control it directly from a TV? My Current plex server, a 2011 mac mini, sits direclty under my tv, and needs replacing… it works both as a Plex server to other devices, but also as plex player for my TV as it is a shady brand and hasn’t got a plex client.
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      153. I was interested in the 4bay or 6bay options… The 3dP OS capability does not look important compared to their inability to provide delivery to some countries on the planet *apart from two (2!)*… That, also coupled with a strange KickStarter-only nice price, looks like another blatant cashgrab, like several other KickStarter projects.

        This is definitely not befitting a company with more than 10yrs presence on the market – it creates a bad precedence for their future product lines and it is a valid reason for many people to stay away .
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      154. 0:00: ⚙️ Overview of UGREEN NASync NAS performance and multimedia capabilities.
        4:37: ???? Hardware transcoding optimizes video file conversion on NAS devices, enhancing performance and quality for users.
        8:54: ⚙️ Testing system performance by playing 4K files and transcoding to 1060p resolution.
        13:33: ⚙️ System performance tested with multiple files, maintaining stable utilization levels.
        18:12: ⚙️ Comparison of playback performance on different systems with varying hardware capabilities.
        22:24: ⚙️ System performance analysis during multiple file playback and hardware transcoding.
        26:49: ⚙️ Converting high-density files from h.265 to h.264 to maintain quality and speed up playback.
        31:25: ⚙️ Evaluation of 8K file conversion performance using software transcoding in UGREEN NASync NAS PLEX TESTS.
        36:13: ⚙️ Plex performance on UGREEN NAS devices needs optimization for handling 8K multimedia.

        Timestamps by Tammy AI
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      155. Happy to see these results! I was more interested on the hardware than software since finding out that there is a way to install 3rd party OS on this UGreen NAS. My main use case will be as a media server. Even if the software won’t be that great at the beginning, as long as it somehow works like the docker app on this video… I’ll be fine by it. I know my way through ssh and terminal and I feel confident enough I can make it work for my intended use. Hopefully… ????

        I backed the 8-bay version btw during Super Early Bird pricing. I also have a lifetime Plex license. I’m not going to abuse this NAS as much as you did so I should be fine getting this. ????
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      156. Thanks Robbie! I think more RAM would definitely improve the CPU performance and SSDs as Cache would add more reliable throughput at higher resolutions. I’ve supported the 4800 Plus and plan to add both NVME and 32GB RAM hardware upon receipt… Keep Smiling! No Seagulls!
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      157. Could you do a more in detail video about the power consumption of this NAS?

        Especially with them releasing further updates.
        It kind of felt very high. But then again, it could be getting better with updates on the software.
        I dont think the cpu is taking all that much power theirself.
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      158. What are some good alternatives for DXP4800 plus from Synology? I like synology better and would like to put my money in who is in the industry for a longer period?
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      159. Pretty sure h.265 (hevc) and h.264 are both licensed thru MPEG-LA even though open source implementations exist. They allow end users free use, but charge for professional use and inclusion in commercial products.
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      160. I’ve backed the 8 bay, but at the moment I’m trying to spec out a W680 build with Quick Sync, ECC, and IPMI, so I may end up canceling the pledge, as losing ECC and IPMI isn’t worth saving $500 or so to me, when the storage alone will cost me a ton.
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      161. If Mr Ugreen happens to return I’d like to know, as would tens of thousands of others, how long it might be before they fulfil those 9,200 NAS orders from the Kickstarter. Only then we will have even a starting idea how long it might be before they allow people from anywhere other than the US and Germany to consider if we can look at these. I’ll probably end up building my own or getting a Terra Master, but if we were talking another 2-3 months I would be interested. Pricing will also bean issue as being excluded from the Kickstarter will have left a foul taste. I was really impressed with the detail in this video, and with the results – the hardware I think we all agreed appeared very good, the software appears to be making some good progress.
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      162. Glad to see Ugreen updating their NAS’s UI. But I can’t wait for the NASCompares’ Ugreen vs Qnap vs Synology video. IMO I’d rather pay the extra $20-30 and get a near-spec-equivalent Qnap NAS. Qnap UI and app store are solid and worth the few extra bones. I love Ugreen cables, chargers, and battery banks but them entering the NAS market is just weird. The NAS market is going to be tough for Ugreen because there’s already a NAS for pretty much every budget. My biggest question, if Ugreen fails and abandons their NAS systems, how easy is it to install TrueNAS and replace their OS?
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      163. If they refuse to allow 3rd-party OSs on this hardware, that’s an absolute deal breaker. If I can’t install my own Unraid, TrueNAS, Ubuntu, Windows, etc. on it, it’s absolutely worthless to me.
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      164. Looks like each of the slowdowns was where you ran out of memory and perhaps used swap? Or am I missing something and there is a reason you are ignoring the 100% me,Roy utilization that matches the CPU “hangs” you called out?
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      165. You mentioned that you were testing it stock with 8GB DDR5 RAM and no NVME SSDs installed for cache. The system utilization during the multiple 4K transcoding at showed the RAM maxed out and the 8K transcoding obliterated the CPU, but it would have been more conclusive determining a true CPU bottleneck if more RAM and NVME SSDs were installed. A PC will hang when it runs out of RAM so the CPU can write parts of the memory back to storage. Will you be testing with 16GB or 32GB RAM in dual channel and M.2 NVME SSDs for cache?
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      166. Lets say my Avatar has built-in subtitles, will the plex client on my nVidia shield be able to access them if the 4k file is transcoded to 1080p? Will I have to export them before hand (.idx .srt…) to have them always available? The Ugreen 6 bay makes my legs weak at the knee. But only US and Germany in the Kickstarter… Bollocks to that!
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      167. I’m interested in the 8 bay variant as I currently have a 4 bay synology and when that fills up I’m going to need more bays. Im hoping for something where I can still slowly upgrade the storage one drive at a time like the synology. Im wondering if the OS or an alternate one can support that since this seems a better value than getting a synology 8 bay.
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      168. Phenomenal review. Being the first time considering buying a nas what is your opinion on buying this or something else instead?

        I want to finally centralise my file system but it does become incredibly confusing.
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      169. the 40% early bird discount is what got me to back this product. I have a Ryzen 2700x from a prior system of mine that is mostly sitting unused. I would just need need a new a case and motherboard, preferably RAM as well, but being able to lock in $600 for a six-bay NAS is incredible.
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      170. With the photos backup from the phone, does it allow you to move the photos from your phone to the nas and then allow you to remove the photo from your phone without removing it from the nas ? I can’t recall if the terminology for this is a backup or a sync or something else.
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      171. The move here is to put truenas scale on it and call it a day, probably makes a perfectly competent truenas box, and you get all of the features you could ever want, probably more performant too
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      172. 33:30 38:11 These are not beta issues.
        UGreen NASes were manufactured for a non-English market and did not successfully sell. Their kickstarter is a well-veiled fire sale; project -rewardees- backers beware.
        Nice video ???? great YT channel. Thank you.
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      173. I like this NAS, but compared to the Synology that uses a 12cm fan that is easily replaceable, the ugreen uses a rather custom fan that can be potentially hard to replace if it fails
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      174. Hi! Does anyone know if UGOS (and the NAS box) will support “surveillance cameras” – and if so, does it come with perpetual camera licenses and if yes on licenses, how many? Thanks much … love the NASCOMPARES channel! 🙂
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      175. Fuck it. I just backed the 8 bay model. I bought my DS918+ for $547.99 in 2019, so hardware wise, the 8 bay is an absolute steal for $899. I will probably just throw TrueNAS Scale / Unraid on it anyway. Hopefully these issues you’ve had doing that are ironed out by the actual release.
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      176. Thanks for this. Not sure how I missed the boat about that 40% discount but that alone has gotten me very interested in this, so it seems I have less than 24 hours to decide if I want to pull the trigger or not.

        For that price with that hardware, I’m considering just getting the 8 bay and sitting on it a while until I can get good prices on drives and give them time to sort out the software etc. or reverse the decision about voiding the warranty if you install another OS. It’s completely unusable for me without Docker anyway, as I do everything with Docker Compose.
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      177. How does the mobile app work for multi user? For example, I want to backup my photos, but also allow my household members to do so as well from mobile app. If they are not admins, will they be seeing everything I’m seeing in the app as well?
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      178. *Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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      179. *Update on the use of 3rd Party OS’ on UGREEN NAS with hardware, with regard to warranty*: “The Ugreen team confirms that whatever is promised in their warranty policy will not change, which only covers the hardware. They also mention that there is a risk of damage if you install a third-party OS, including data loss and compatibility issues, etc.” – Ugreen Representative, 26/3/24
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      180. 0 seconds ago
        Just wanted to say “thank you” for all of your videos. They were very helpful in my latest NAS upgrade, which I documented and gave you a reference for: https://youtu.be/_hoyGx9zVxE?feature=shared
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      181. Would love for them to reach out to you for consultation on their software – of course, with applicable consulting fees! – so they can make this in to a great competitor in the marketspace. Thanks for the rundown!!
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      182. Thanks for the review always appreciated. Very disappointed by Ugreen policy to limit starter to Germany and the US. Why many people are getting test units for free outsides of those 2 countries, but was refused to subscribe
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      183. Does anyone know if the ones sold during the kickstarter early bird pricing are prototype version or will they be the retail finished version? I emailed them but they don’t seem to want to respond.
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      184. This UI looks almost 1:1 for Synology DSM. I’d love to get my hands on an OS package and compare it to a DSM update package to see if it is the same, or if they’ve simply tried to clone DSM’s look and feel for their OS. If it’s the former, and there’s no licensing agreement between UGreen and Synology, I imagine this product may be dead before arrival.
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      185. Is this NAS generally suitable for first time users? Or will it just be a major pain due to e.g. lack of configuration tutorials and generally the not fully developed OS? The early bird price is of course very compelling, but I am not really sure how much hardware is required for it to run smoothly.
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      186. Thanks for this insanely in-depht review! I’m also planning to buy one of these NAS systems (probably the SSD only system).
        Do you have any information on compatibility with MacOS Time Machine Backups?
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      187. You couldn’t find any way to sideload Plex for a prelim test…. I’m sure it’s running on some basic Linux distro and you can find Plex compatible for all of them.
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      188. If they add a few as certain functionality and improve security and 3rd party support (PLEX and such). Also if they offer something similar to Synology SHR raid configuration I would definitely consider switching from Synology.
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      189. Can you do a guide to HDDs? E.g there are currently several 22TB or 20TB HDDs that have basically the exact same specs on paper, using the same technology yet arte vastly differently priced.
        E.g. the Toshiba MG10 is where I live consistently a lot cheaper than preatty much the exact same models from WD or Seagate. (320 USD vs 400USD)
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      190. To be on the safe side, the hardware is absolutely top for the price, but I would install Unraid as software. I know that other operating systems are not supported out of the box, it will void the warranty (however they want to determine that when using a different systemdrive) and also needs a change in the bios. But Unraid should be able to run on it without any problems, right?
        Could you maybe even test it? I’m sure some people would be interested. But if you can’t, for example for partnership reasons, that’s fine too.
        Best regards! 😀
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      191. A few questions, does it come with 3.5 to 2.5 inch adapters? Also do you have the 6 bay model? curious about the size of the PCIE x4 expansion slot, wondering if one can shove a GPU in there
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      192. I’m seriously regretting my QNAP TS-464 purchase 16 month ago. It looks like Ugreen have done an initial good job. It looks a smart thing, probably the best looking box out of all of the competition if it’s on show. The SD slot, brilliant addition, I don’t regularly use SD cards, but sometimes I do get client video footage on SD cards, and it would be great to just dump straight to the NAS.

        Finally, a NAS that has easy access for the RAM and NVME slots, the TS-464 isn’t too bad as you just pull the drive bays to get access, but my hands aren’t great and I struggled to get RAM and the NVMe’s into the slots; the access panel is great, I remember the days laptops had them and upgrading the RAM and drive was a 5 min job. It’s also great to see the OS being an actual removable drive, so if the drive fails, or you need more space for apps etc, you can upgrade it, big thumbs up there, it should increase the life span of the NAS, as I’m sure over the years the OS will get larger.

        Onboard 10Gbe is a massive plus, but it needs to be true 10Gbe, 700-900mb/s transfers realistically, otherwise work on a solid 5Gbe the is consistently 500mb’s. I’ve added the 10Gbe NVMe addin card to the TS-464, in hindsight a waste of time and money due to PCIe lane limitations that I didn’t fully understand when I bought the NAS, the best transfer speeds I get is 270-500mb/s (more often than not the lower end of that range), the 2.5Gbe is also great too rather than 1Gbe. How I’ve got my networking set up is, all my containers use the 2.5Gbe port and 10Gbe is restricted to video editing PC interaction.

        Software – 100% agree on the UI font, it’s awful, and akin to the 90s/early 2000s, it certainly isn’t on brand with Ugreen branding, on their website they use Poppins font, why wasn’t that used? A modern on brand font needs to be used to fit the overall look of the NAS. The transfer status definitely needs to be in window as well as in the main Tasks menu, QNAP and Synology both have a status icon on the window you started the transfer in, with a popout for all current tasks, including remotely started tasks. Custom folders for media definitely needs to be enabled. The OS definitely has a Synology feel about it, rather than QNAP, I think it’s wise for Ugreen to go for something in between, I’m use to QNAP’s QTS, I find Synology’s OS a little too simplistic, but something in the middle would be nice for the average user. For all the flaws in the software, the good thing is it is software and can be improved with each update, more important is the hardware is right, and I think overall they are offering a far better hardware package than anyone else.

        Regardless of the current state and we know it’s not finished, if Ugreen really are serious about getting into the NAS game, this and future products really could shake up the turn key NAS market, I honestly think QNAP and Synology isn’t always the best value for money, and often their hardware choices on stunted their NAS’s.
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      193. The ability to us TrueNAS or another opensource NAS OS is a deal breaker for me. I do like the hardware but the OS is just missing too much to day to day operation.
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      194. 0:27: ???? Exploring the beta version of UGreen NAS software with its features, improvements, and limitations.
        3:59: ⚙️ User-friendly NAS software interface with familiar layout and intuitive controls.
        7:56: ???? Overview of UGREEN NAS UGOS Software Beta features and controls.
        11:38: ???? Efficient file management and performance testing capabilities on UGREEN NAS UGOS Software.
        15:33: ???? Review of multimedia features including playing video files and viewing photos within the web browser.
        19:57: ⚙️ AI models in the photo app are comprehensive and beneficial, despite being limited to one default directory.
        23:45: ???? Importance of security measures in preventing ransomware attacks and unauthorized access.
        28:03: ???? UGREEN NAS UGOS Software offers various support options, including remote access and offline access point.
        32:12: ???? Evaluation of UGREEN NAS UGOS software beta version, including mobile application functionality.
        36:05: ⚙️ Efficient photo browsing, sharing, and facial recognition on mobile application.
        40:03: ⚙️ Review of UGREEN NAS software beta version highlights need for security enhancements and ongoing SMB performance optimization.

        Timestamps by Tammy AI
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      195. After seeing this, I’ll definitely not use this OS. It would be really interesting to see how unraid or TrueNAS runs on these machines. Also a point would be power consumption on different OS, c states and stuff…
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      196. This thing looks like an investment thats has the potential to grow with the demands of the average user thats looking for basic backup & storage features. For more sophisticated users this won’t do. Packed with this hardware this thing neds a docker ui and some hypervisor.
        At least now you have a way to generate more content as udates for this OS hit the device.
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      197. You have now done 5 videos on this Chinese spyware/vaporware/malware product …..give it up until its released. I don’t trust Ugreen with either the way they have launched this or the security of the product against CCP interference. All they have done with Kickstarter is make themselves look dodgy as F*ck….they look like they are hiding things …. then we can talk about how they wheeled out their employees to shrill for them on YouTube …..
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      198. So many CPU power and RAM only for sharing files and Photo manager?? No VM Manager or Docker is only disappointing.
        Yes, its a beta, but if you want play in a big market you must bring more as a really nice phone app.
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      199. I think they will offer Plex and Emby, BUT let’s stick to the current reality where these doesn’t exist. Do you think it would be possible to install and run Plex server through the console shell ?
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      200. Thanks for showing how hard it is to install another OS on it…that was pretty extreme????
        37-53W seems like a lot of power for a NAS…and this isn’t even the 1235u 6 bay I’d get ????
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      201. When I look at this as a whole I see an unfinished copy of DSM. Except DSM has had 15 years of refinement and hardening. If they don’t get SSH enablement, 2FA, immutable snapshots, and a useful security scanner sorted I can almost guarantee they will be hit with a malware attack shortly after release. I had very high hopes for this device, even gave them my five bucks, but I’m becoming less sure as time goes on.
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      202. The font type is not consistent in the interface, times new Roman is very dated. The menus do look like my dated DS214, and my old Asustor AS-202TE – now you may understand why I’m looking for a new NAS. The hardware is a real turn on, but the software does seem unfinished, but remember when I bought my Asustor they had only just entered the market, it was a leap of faith, and at times it showed, iSCSI on Synology was reliable, the same on Asustor, initially, was not. Ah, as I’m watching inconsistent fonts was just mentioned, thanks.
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      203. Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see anything on the use of containers. Without virtualization and containers, to run servers and keep them separate and secure, I would give it a hard no. Not that I don’t think Qnap Container Station doesn’t need work too.
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      204. Lack of immutable snapshots is a dealbreaker for me. It’s too bad we don’t know whether they’re going to add it because I won’t buy one on the kickstarter if I don’t know if that feature is going to be there at release. It’s really your final backstop against crypto attacks. If I have to choose between a Synology with an old processor and a 12th gen i5 without immutable snapshots, I’ll take the Synology every time
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      205. I like Synology software – with a bit of luck this UGREEN NAS will finally force Synology to put some decent hardware in their next “plus” generation – much better CPU, integrated GPU, 10GbE, more RAM – and also move away from their lock-in on RAM modules and HDD on their higher end gear. If not, as the software evolves, I might just have to make the move.
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      206. Looks great, but UGREEN should stick with their stuff which are good. A Nas is a very complicated product to execute properly. I bought a second hand NAS from QNAP, and this thing is old; and still recieves some updates now and then. I do not see this happening with UGREEN. The cooling, i see no proper vents on the front. So it looks like it will suffocate a bit in warmer weather. Also, a little critisism; the splitscreen video for showing closeups is not really an addition, the right side image is a tad soft and less contrasty. The audio/video lag between the two shots is distracting more than it is worth your time editing this in. Your main camera captures it all just fine in my opinion.
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      207. Can these NAS drives be used for storage and play of 4k UHD Blu-ray Discs? Would I need additional hardware to stream it over my home network through the newest Apple TV? I am quadriplegic and can’t change discs without help so this device could be very helpful and freeing for me. Thanks for reading.
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      208. This misses the big one ….would you trust a Mainland Chinese company with being the center of your network? …Why do you think they only want their own OS ??? What else is in there????
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      209. As someone completely new to this space I had a question. The transfer speeds that you showed over 10gbe was slow and again sorry for my incompetence when asking this but, thats transfer stuff over the network so wireless right? I have a mac studio that has a 10gb ethernet port could I plug the ethernet cable directly from my mac to the NAS and receive much fast speeds?
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      210. Waited so long for you review! Huge fan of yours since I am new to this whole NAS topic and your videos are really helpful!

        Is it in general possible to use this NAS (or any other) for hoarding data, especially videos etc and use a Mini PC as the Plex server that accesses the videos from the NAS?

        My use case would be mostly for storing digital documents, photos and videos. Since they currently don’t seem to have a Plex app, I wonder if above solution would be possible.

        I am currently cheering for this device due to the comparably great hardware/€…

        Would rather use synology but cannot believe what kind of hardware they are selling compared to others
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      211. If the only thing that we miss out on is the warranty but we still have the option to install 3rd party OS options. then I think that’s acceptable. worst case use it stock until the warranty expires then upgrade to a supported 3rd party OS (or sooner if you don’t care about the warranty)
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      212. I’ve been saying for a while that I don’t understand why this processor hasn’t been more popular with these kind of devices. The 5 core 1P+4E benchmarks pretty close to the N100 overall, but it has a bunch more PCIe lanes.
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      213. Looks good I am considering; however …… they should have concentrated on the hardware and put something like TrusNAS on, or allow you to choose an OS when purchasing. Companies shouldn’t keep trying to reinvent systems. Would have been relased quicker and less expensive without their custom software. I would be happy with Ubuntu server with ZFS. But would be overkill, so I should stick to repurposing old hardware I suppose.
        I worry about the Drobo situation if they kill this project. Wouldn’t be great running out of date NAS software.
        The hardware looks great and mature.
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      214. Thx4ur hard worx! I will get my hands on 6bay variant as an update for my Qnap TS-452-D2-8G only as a secure datavault (raid5, snapshots and backup). So the kickstarter prize triggers me and i love to see further updates of ur intel.
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      215. Great review. I’ll pass now and pick up a QNAP instead since I need Plex support sooner than later and there is no timeline on that, let alone everything else to do with its software. Thank you again!
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      216. Thanks for the great in-depth review <3 I have a DS918+ and am considering to get a 6 or 8 bay solution. UGREEN is also fairly intriguing from a pure pricepoint pov (with the 40% KS discount). I don't seem to find any good alternative around a similar pricepoint these days, any thoughts from a pure $$$ pov?
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      217. The software looks a lot like DSM. We cant tell from this video (for sure, the deep dive will show more) but the visuals of the interface looks like DSM, so much in fact … maybe a bit copy/paste.
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      218. Commenting before watching: I’m really excited to see Ugreen break in to this space and see what they can bring to the table! I’ve been enjoying their designs in the charger and adapter sector. While I don’t yet see them as a name that’s synonymous with guaranteed quality and the highest standards, they do seem to be pushing competition in value delivered. I think that’s very exciting for us laymen!
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      219. totally agree with you on the sd card slots, it always seemed weird to me how many off the shelf nases don’t have one when they seem to mostly advertise to photographers and other content creators who are mostly moving data from sd cards anyway.
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      220. 60W idle power consumption is a no go. This would cost 160€ in energy per year in germany. No wonder noone else is talking about the power consumption. If it stays like that i am out.
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      221. The thing is, I don’t mind beta products for many uses, but my storage systems need to be solid. My current 3-drive NAS has been running for over 10 years.

        I can’t see trusting an incomplete, crowdfunded solution. And, face it, the main reason for crowd funding is when the company doesn’t have the resources to complete the device without getting money up front. My conclusion is that either Ugreen really doesn’t have many resources or they are using crowd funding as a method of marketing.
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      222. Let’s see if this “turkey solution” with their super confident OS works out of the box or not

        Yep very confident on OS and restricted plus not very confident and raise as crowds funding … Odd

        If it works really great then with the strict OS limitation might still be considerable

        If it needs tons of user manual work to make it work and they are still playing stupid OS restriction policy to Dodge support ticket then sorry, skip

        Thank you for reviewing this ????
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      223. Ughhh….getting closer to having real ECC memory but still not there. ODECC is not for data retention. When are these manufacturers going to learn a NAS is for long term storage for so many. Would have bought into the kickstarter for the flash version if it supported true ECC memory. Would already have the Asustor flash version if it supported ECC memory.
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      224. Excellent video.i really like your videos. So what is ur suggestion..do the diy like i9 erying PROJECT or buy the ugreen nas 6 bay and wait for them to do some miracle to software or allow 3rd party O.S?
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      225. im just about ready to transition from a 4 bay to an 8 bay so I think im going to snag the 8 bay for the discount and sit on it while things get ironed out. The price for that hardware is just too good that that price imo. Great review!
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      226. Nice hardware specs, but now a total failure unless you live in the US or Germany. I was very excited initially, I was ready to order on the kickstarter, I need a new NAS now, but then found out if you now don’t live in those places then you have no idea when it will come to other regions. The RRP is not in the least competitive so unless you have loads of spare Dosh and don’t care about cost, you will choose a different vendor – Ugreen have no pedigree with NAS devices, they have no track record with NAS systems. I have tons of Ugeen devices, love them, but this NAS release is totally daft and a massive turn off. I will get the Terramaster instead, the 424 has good hardware, a sensible price, and a good pedigree, and if don’t like TOS I can replace with TrueNAS or Unraid, or Proxmox. I feel quite let down, especially as the restriction to US and Germany only appeared later.
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      227. Thank you for the video.

        I really like this product, and for me, a 40% discount to essentially be a public beta tester with such good hardware seems reasonable. I think we have to consider the price difference between the Kickstarter campaign and the recommended retail price (RRP). It’s unfinished, the OS still needs some work, but I think that makes the 40% price discount reasonable.

        I mean, if we compare this to other NAS devices at the same price segment, we have to overpay for the software on those (bundled with really weak hardware). Although I still think (and I think I mention this all the time) that most of the software options other brands offer are still much worse than 90% of the open-source counterparts, but it is what it is. Most people like it for some reason. Although in my humble opinion, Synology is kind of the Apple of the NAS world. Until you show people that there are much better solutions, they are fine with something mediocre. Like… a usable Docker UI on any one of the NAS OSes?… Anyone?… They should just stop wasting development time on creating limited, useless “apps.” They are in the F league compared to the mature open-source solutions like Portainer, Yacht, heck even DockGE, which is like 4 months old with only a single main developer.

        The only thing I really dislike in the Ugreen NAS lineup is the price difference between the 6 and 8-bay models. A 50% price increase for just +2 disk bays? For that $300 price difference, I can pick up a 6-bay USB DAS (for example from Terramaster) and double the number of my bays.

        I have two questions, if you have some time. Does the fan in this model have a regular 3 or 4-pin fan connector, or is it something proprietary (like TerraMaster’s mini connector)? Just because with a 5-year life expectancy, it would be cool to be able to swap out the fan for something else in case it has any problems (like wearing out the bearings and starting to be louder).

        Also, since you have experience with the TerraMaster F4-424 (Pro), which is probably the only comparable product to Ugreen’s 4-bay models at the moment (hardware-wise), and both have one large fan at the end, is there any meaningful difference regarding noise levels between the two? I don’t need exact measurements; I am just curious if you have any opinion on this topic.
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      228. I was pretty interested but after I watched a Q&A video where they mentioned if you install any other OS they’d void the warranty… Nah. Currently considering a DIY NAS…
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      229. 0:12: ⚙️ Overview of the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS crowdfunding campaign and hardware specifications.
        5:17: ???? Unique design with lockable bays, USB ports, and bold text sets the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 apart.
        10:10: ???? Issues with tray sturdiness in NASync DXP4800 system despite overall sturdy build and ventilation.
        14:59: ⚙️ Overview of design and connectivity features of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
        19:43: ???? Exploring the internal components of a NAS device, including the motherboard, CPU, and SSD.
        24:20: ???? Review of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 software features and client application for local network access.
        28:32: ⚙️ User-friendly folder creation and management with comprehensive options, lacking advanced security features.
        33:03: ????️ Exploration of geolocation data and AI photo recognition features in NASync DXP4800 NAS.
        37:59: ???? Beta features include LED scheduling, language issues, and occasional Chinese notifications.
        42:04: ???? Enhancements in system configuration backup and network settings reset needed for UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
        47:21: ⚡ Comparison of data transfer speeds between two NVMe SSDs in UGREEN NASync DXP4800 NAS.
        51:33: ???? Detailed overview of the network interface, hardware information, and app management on UGREEN NASync DXP4800.
        55:45: ⚙️ Evaluation of UGREEN NASync DXP4800 prototype software and build quality.

        Timestamps by Tammy AI
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