The Synology DS723+ NAS Expandable 2-Bay Revealed
| UPDATE 11/01/23 – The Synology DS723+ NAS Drive has now been RELEASED! You can find our reveal and before you buy guide below:
Synology DS723+ NAS Review – HERE |
Synology has finally given us a little more information to chew on with regard to their new ‘x23+’ series, with the recent reveal of the new Synology DS723+ NAS Drive. This new expandable 2-Bay Diskstation is the intended follow-up to the Synology DS720+ NAS (released in June/July 2020 – so a 2.5yr refresh time is pretty standard) and although we do not have full hands-on with the device, the information we have gives us a pretty good indication of what this device is going to be capable of. Although we have unofficially known about this device for a few months (here in our video on early 2023 leaks and predictions) it is thanks to a reddit post by user ‘ntrprnr‘ that confirmation of some of the hardware in this system has been confirmed via a Synology site source (the Synology Knowledge Center). It confirmed that this new 2-Bay will be following in much of the design of the DS720+ (as expected), but is also switching its internal architecture more towards that of the summer 2022 released DS1522+. Let’s discuss what we know about the DS723+ NAS and what we are likely to expect from this expandable 2-bay diskstation.
The Synology DS723+ NAS Hardware Specifications
There is no avoiding that the CPU choice inside the Synology DS723+ NAS is going to split opinion the tiniest bit. Until now, this 2/7-bay expandable product family has been exclusively Intel-based and integrated graphics equipped (Celeron, with a brief dance with Pentiums in 2016) which all benefited from particularly good multimedia & graphical handling when it comes to server-side transcoding/conversions, especially with more complicated and dense media formats such as HEVC/H.265. This is why the DS720+ (and DS718+ and DS716+ predecessors) were so popular for use as a Plex Media Server, Synology Video Station, Surveillance Station and even Virtual Machine deployment. The new Synology DS723+ NAS on the other hand is the latest system that has jumped ship from Intel over to AMD, with the DS723+ being built on AMD architecture, with a Ryzen Embedded Dual Core R1600 processsor. Now, it is worth highlighting that the R1600 IS a very good CPU. It is the same processor that is in the DS1522+, which we demonstrated could saturate 10GbE in a RAID 5 (more on this later) and also the DS1522+ NAS performs well in Plex at 1080p and native (non transcoded/convereted) 4K too, so the switch by Synology from an Intel to this AMD is not without merit. Before we dig deeper though, let’s discuss the specifications that we know about the DS1522+ NAS, alongside educated guesses we can make that are based on the CPU, product family and Synology’s past with the diskstation series:
Note: Images are for demonstration purposes and are NOT official product images. Additionally, all estimations/predictions are in bold and will be addressed/confirmed closer to the official release:
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CPU
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CPU Model | AMD Ryzen R1600 |
| CPU Architecture | 64-bit | |
| CPU Frequency | 2-core/4-Thread 2.6Ghz which can be burst/turbo to 3.1GHz | |
| Hardware Encryption Engine (AES-NI) | Yes | |
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Memory
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System Memory | 2GB |
| Memory Module Pre-installed | 1 | |
| Total Memory Slots | 2 | |
| Maximum Memory Capacity | 32GB Supported by CPU. Still need confirmation of slots available on the DS723+ | |
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Storage
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Drive Bays | 2 |
| Maximum Drive Bays with Expansion Unit | 7 (DX517 x 1) | |
| M.2 Drive Slots | 2 (NVMe) – Almost certain | |
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| Hot Swappable Drive | Yes | |
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External Ports
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RJ-45 1GbE LAN Port | 2x (Not confirmation of Speed/Bandwidth, but 1GbE looking increasingly certain) |
| USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port | 2x (Based on previous releases) | |
| eSATA Port | 1 for expansion) | |
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PCIe
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PCIe Expansion | 1 x Gen3 x2 network upgrade slot, for the E10G22-T1-mini. A small Cooper Upgrade module that Synology released in Summer 2022 and is almost certain to be featured on the Synology DS723+ NAS (even on a 2 Bay system that might struggle to saturate 1,000MB/s without an expansion) |
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File System
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Appearance
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Size (Height x Width x Depth) | 166 mm x 106 mm x 223 mm (size of the DS720+) |
| Weight | 1.5 kg (weight of the DS720+) | |
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Others
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System Fan | 92 mm x 92 mm x 1pcs (Based on the design of the DS720+) |
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| Brightness Adjustable Front LED Indicators | Yes | |
| Power Recovery | Yes | |
| Noise Level* | TBC | |
| Scheduled Power On / Off | Yes | |
| Wake on LAN / WAN | Yes | |
| Power Supply Unit / Adapter | 65W (Based on the DS720+) | |
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Warranty
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3-year hardware warranty, extendable to 5 years with EW201 or Extended Warranty Plus | |
So, in terms of its hardware capabilities, the DS723+ NAS is highly comparable to the DS1522+ NAS than that of the DS720+, but we should take a moment and ponder why Synology has made this rather big portfolio change recently towards AMD over Intel? The Synology DS723+ NAS is by no means the first example of this and in fact you can trace the shift in the brand’s CPU choices all the way back to 2020 when they replaced the Intel C3238 in their SMB solutions with the AMD Ryzen Embedded V1500B. Then the DS1522+ followed suit from man Intel J4125 in the DS1520+ into the R1600 in the latest release. Finally, in spring/summer of 2022, we learned that the highly enterprise SAS tier of their portfolio would switch from Intel to AMD and their EPYC processors in the SA6400 and SA6200 Rackstations. So, the Synology DS723+ NAS arriving with the AMD R1600 is not exactly coming out of nowhere. Still, there are going to be some users who will debate the utility of this CPU at the Home/Prosumer tier vs quad-core Intel integrated graphics CPUs. Perhaps Synology has seen the winds changing in the last few years, as Intel is regularly hit by hardware shortages that continue to undermine their market dominance AND recent news that Intel are killing off the Celeron and Pentium branding, gives AMD growing appeal (especially with a better comparative price point on many of their processors vs likewise architecture/powered at Intel).
Still, we are still talking about a 2-core (4 threads to be fair, so four virtual CPUs for VMs and also the support of ECC memory) processor that will use more power to perform heavier graphical tasks. I am still a little confused as to why Synology have yet to adopt the AMD embedded graphics processors (AMD Vega Graphics) from both the R1000 and V1000 CPU families yet. Perhaps there is a question of TDP and power, or that they are holding back on these for the DS423+ and DS223+? Here are the specifications of the AMD R1600 CPU in the DS723+ NAS:
Moving away from the CPU, we CAN talk about one thing that is likely to arrive onboard the Synology DS723+ NAS – potential 10GbE support. Now, before we get too excited, it’s really important to highlight that this would be delivered via an OPTIONAL single 10G Copper (10GBASE-T) module. The DS723+ will almost certainly arrive with 1GbE network ports, which will definitely disappoint some users who were hoping that 2022/2023 would be when Synology finally adopts 2.5GbE – especially when 2.5GbE is available on the Synology Router, arriving on many ISP routers, value routers, switches and more. It is not totally out of the question that Synology will surprise us and integrate 2.5GbE into this system, but realistically, they have been pretty clear about how little interest they have in it and I think they would see optional 10G on the DS723+ as a far more palatable choice – even on a comparatively bandwidth light 2x SATA bay system like this. 2.5G is now more than a fad in 2022. As greater than gigabit internet connectivity is becoming increasingly common (even ‘affordable’), so the thought that a NAS has the potential to be capped at 1GbE (109MB/s) when a particularly well-connected internet cloud service could exceed that is pretty disheartening. Still, the option of 10GbE would be very welcome, though in this case. some might wonder why they didn’t just roll this in and increase the DS723+ NAS price a fraction.
The possible 10GbE upgrade for the DS723+ would be an incredibly easy process – via the E10G22-T1-mini module and is significantly slicker than traditional PCIe Card upgrades. Arriving on a PCIe Gen 3×2 board, this single port accessory would slot into the back (power down necessary, as this is a PCIe upgrade) and would immediately add the 1,000MB/s+ bandwidth connection to your DS723+. As this NAS is a 2-Bay system, there is the question of whether there would be enough media throughput the saturate the full 10GBASE-T connection. Using a fully SATA SSD populated device will likely three-quarter-to saturate the 10G connection, as would using the 5-bay DX517 expansion in a combined RAID with the main 2-Bays (the DX517 connects over eSATA which is capped at 6Gb/s – so a combined RAID with the primary storage is the only way you are going to hit 1,000MB/s), but what about if you are only using the main 2x DS723+ bays with 3.5″ hard drives?
Although 2x SATA drive 10G performance on the DS723+ and it’s CPU+Memory combo cannot be confirmed right now, I CAN answer the question of how the R1600 CPU and pro-class hard drives will perform over 10GbE in a four drive combo. Previously here on the NASCompares, I was fortunate enough to run ATTO tests on the DS1522+ (same R1600 CPU, but 8GB Memory and more bays) with RAID 0 and RAID 5, over four WD Red Pro 22TB Hard Drives. Now, it is worth remembering that these are NOT your common, everyday SATA hard drives and are designed to be rugged, high-performance disks (7200RPM, 512MB Cache, 10x 2.2TB platters, etc) AND the DS1522+ was populated with four drives (twice the maximum bays of the DS723+). That said, the results in both a RAID 0 and RAID 5 setup and in particular file size tests, full saturation of read transfers of 1.15GB/s was achieved, with write performance peaking at around 800-900MB/s. Now, these ARE artificial tests (so, not really representative of everyday use), but are nevertheless very compelling results for the CPU inside the DS723+ being able (with sufficient media) to sufficiently saturate the E10G22-T1-mini upgrade. More domestic/smaller scale HDDs such as the WD Red Plus or Seagate Ironwolf drives in a 2-Bay configuration of the DS723+ would likely cap at around 400-50MB/s at most.
Note – You can READ the full article that details all the tests and results of the Synology DS1522+ NAS and WD Red Pro 22TBs over 10GbE HERE. Alternatively, you can watch my YouTube video on these tests (with 5GbE testing too) here on the NASCompares YouTube Channel.
| Synology DS1522+ with 4x 22TB WD Red Pro RAID 5/10GbE Test – 64MB | Synology DS1522+ with 4x 22TB WD Red Pro RAID 0/10GbE Test – 256MB |
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Another expected hardware element of the DS723+ NAS is that it will almost certainly arrive with two m.2 NVMe SSD bays on the base that allow you to install considerably faster SSD drives to boost the performance of particular internal file processes (with variable external bandwidth benefits). These bays cannot be used as traditional storage pools (not a tremendous shock, as Synology have maintained this position since introducing the feature way back in 2017/18 on their systems) are instead available for use in Read and Write caching. The former benefits the user by copying frequently accessed small files to the faster media to decrease access time, improve latency and make accessing the Synology NAS regularly a great deal more fluid and responsive. The latter write caching improves upload/input to the NAS by shifting initial write activity onto the faster storage media and then internally shifting the media to core storage afterwards. Synology has been one of the biggest backers in conventional turnkey NAS solutions of SSD caching since its launch, regularly updating their algorithm and efficiency on this with each update to DSM. It’s still a crying shame that these m.2 NVMe SSD bays are not usable for traditional storage pools (though it IS possible via unofficial mods over on github, it is not recommended by the brand and can potentially undermine your support down the line by them).
The Synology DS723+ NAS hardware is an interesting mix of the expected and unexpected (both internally and externally) and I think it is safe to say that this will divide opinion at the home and prosumer tiers considerably. At the small/medium business (SMB) tier of course it will be a different story, as the hardware architecture here is very competent and if the DS723+ will likely outperform the DS720+ in most other respects in/outside of DSM, so it will be very popular! Let’s discuss the potential software capabilities of the DS723+ NAS in DSM 7.1 onwards.
The Synology DS723+ NAS Software Specifications
The Synology portfolio has always been about providing software solutions. The hardware is certainly an important detail, but there is no avoiding that the brand has always had a larger focus on the software side of things and in the last year or so we have seen a large number of improvements in both the service platform DSM 7, as well as improvements in their C2 cloud services and dirty party tools. The Synology DS723+ will run DSM 7.1 largely identically to the DS1522+, but arguable different in a few ways to it’s intel powered predecessor DS720+. Below is a breakdown of the services and volume that the Synology DS723+ NAS will support (based on the DS1522+ hardware and DS720+ base):
| Antivirus by McAfee (Trial) | Yes |
| Central Management System | Yes |
| Synology Chat | Yes |
| Maximum Users | Yes |
| Maximum Number of Concurrent Users | 100 |
| Document Viewer | Yes |
| Download Station | Yes |
| Maximum Concurrent Download Tasks | 80 |
| SAN Manager | Yes |
| Maximum iSCSI Target Number | 128 |
| Maximum LUN | 256 |
| LUN Clone/Snapshot, Windows ODX | Yes |
| Notes | Yes |
| Synology MailPlus / MailPlus Server | Yes |
| Free Email Accounts | 5 (Licenses required for additional accounts) |
| Maximum Number of Concurrent Users | 100 |
| Maximum Server Performance | 1,224,000 emails per day, approx. 37GB |
| Media Server | Yes |
| DLNA Compliance | Yes |
| Synology Photos | Yes |
| Facial Recognition | Yes |
| Snapshot Replication | Yes |
| Maximum Snapshots per Shared Folder | 1,024 |
| Maximum of System Snapshots | 65,536 |
| Surveillance Station | Yes |
| Maximum IP cam (Licenses required) | 40 (including 2 Free License) (dependant on Memory) |
| Total FPS (H.264) | 1200 FPS @ 720p (1280×720) 1050 FPS @ 1080p (1920×1080) 600 FPS @ 3M (2048×1536) 360 FPS @ 5M (2591×1944) 200 FPS @ 4K (3840×2160) |
| Total FPS (H.265) | 1200 FPS @ 720p (1280×720) 1200 FPS @ 1080p (1920×1080) 1000 FPS @ 3M (2048×1536) 600 FPS @ 5M (2591×1944) 300 FPS @ 4K (3840×2160) |
| Synology Drive | Yes |
| Recommended Number of Concurrent Sync Clients | 350 (the number of connections that can be maintained when the recommended number of hosted files was reached) |
| Recommended Number of Hosted Files | 5,000,000 (applies to files indexed or hosted by Synology Drive. For file access through other standard protocols, refer to the File Services section above) |
| Synology Office | Yes |
| Maximum Users | 1,200 |
| Video Station | Yes |
| Virtual Machine Manager | Yes |
| Recommended Virtual Machine Instances | 4 |
| Recommended Virtual DSM Number (Licenses required) | 4 (including 1 Free License) |
| Notes | The specifications vary depending on system configuration and memory size. |
| VPN Server | Yes |
| Maximum Connections | 40 |
Of course (as mentioned at the start) there are a decent % of users who have been waiting on the release/reveal of the Synology DS723+ NAS for use as a Plex Media Server solution. The Synology Diskstation series have been recommended as great solutions for various scale Plex servers, with ARM-powered solution in the value tier for smaller scale/DLNA-based options and the plus series supporting transcoding and low-mid 4K media. However, the R1600 CPU choice in the DS723+ does throw a little bit of doubt on this. This architecture does provide a decent level of hardware power (crossing 3Ghz at burst) and when it comes to native applications for media, such as Synology Video Station (the excellent 1st party alternative to Plex with numerous client apps and arrives subscription free). Indeed, once again we can look at the performance of the similarly hardware-equipped DS1522+ with the R1600 CPU and how it performed in Video Station and Plex Media Server below. It is worth noting that 4K performance in this videos was only tested using rather advanced 4K files (at 120Mbps and higher), so although this NAS and architecture struggled with 4K playback in these tests, there are new and updated Plex 4K tests coming soon for the DS1522+ NAS on our YouTube channel that shows that it was able to playback a great deal more 4K at 16Mbps to 60Mbps quite well. Although it was still clearly using more CPU resources than an integrated alternative, even without client-side conversions.
Overall, the software support in DSM on the DS723+ is going to be very good and the depth of the hardware available means that although it will be a pinch less suitable for highly graphical tasks, it DOES have alot more capability in file handling and transmission – which is precisely what Synology want for this device and makes it increasingly appealing to traditional storage users. Equally, the architecture of this CPU inside the DS723+ allows its resources to be spread a great deal further (threads and simultaneous tasks) towards using the full range of services that DSM includes. The cloud/hybrid services too will greatly benefit form this architecture too and once again mean that this Synology NAS will bring a tremendous sense/feeling of ‘local’ storage to this network/remote server. Finally, it is worth highlighting that the DS723+ and it’s R1600 CPU benefit form more PCI lanes at PCIe3 rather than the PCIe2 of it’s predecessor, with allows better bandwidth availability to the hardware resources onboard (such as those m.2 NVMe bays)
The Synology DS723+ NAS – Release Date and Price?
The smart money would be on the Synology DS723+ NAS being released around mid-November 2022 (Maybe even very early December, post black Friday and clearance of the DS720+). This would place it 2.5yrs since the release of it’s predecessor, which is quite reasonable. Pricing is harder to pin down. The Expandable desktop 2-Bay tier of Synology’s portfolio (the DS7xx+ device) has tended to land at the £350-400 / $450-500 / €400-450 mark (don’t forget the tax!) when released. However, the DS723+ arrives with a new CPU, possible ECC memory and a possible option of 10GbE, so this could affect the pricing (and that is even without factoring hardware/component availability in 2022/2023 affected by continued shortages). Personally, I think Synology is going to try and maintain this familiar price point, as the tiering in their portfolio on either side of this device in the Value tier (which will also see DSx23 and DSx23j additions in Q1 2023) and bigger Plus series boxes are quite important to their brand. More information will be coming soon on this and other devices in the Synology 2022/2023 hardware range soon, so subscribe to the blog OR visit this page which gets updated regularly with new information on Synology 2023 Hardware. Have a great week!
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I really appreciate your explanation of transcoding. Thanks
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Synology has A grade software but C grade hardware… I just don’t get it. So many of their users want more out of the hardware yet they just ignore them. Crazy.
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I have bought a DS1522+ a week ago. I was struggling with external discs breaking down one after another. Even a 5 week old 8 Tb barracuda drive. ????
98 percent what i have is 1080p. That is doing fine. But it is struggling with 4k. A DS1621xs was just to expensive.
I hate it that Synolgy on purpose choose to use these CPU’s. They are doing that deliberate. So you have to step up bigtime. Actually with a CPU and a build in GPU a lot of people would not buy their expensive Nas line. Synoly could have used a slightly more expensive CPU with build in GPU. And that would have cost us around 50 dollar more. But we all would have done that gladly. And it is really a stupid move from from Synology because a lot of people will be looking at Qnap because of that. So in the end it will cost them money.
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You talked too much, Please show your audience more about its functionality or the inside or the new features or how you use it.
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Hi all. I’m new here and I’m planning on buying this device and part of the use would be to stream my video to my Apple TV 4K. So here is my question. Can the Apple TV transcodes for me through the plex app if installed on it if needed?
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Cant wait to get one on the cheap to use as a torrent server ????
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blablabla
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One thing I don’t understand is why the Server is struggling to serve a native format (e.g. Jellyfish 4k uhd, but h264). Isn’t it supposed to pass it directly through the network, and then the client tries to decode it?
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Most of my devices can handle it without transcoding if not I’ll do dual plex server to a desktop.
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You talked a lot of rubbish about the ssd’s for 10 minutes. It didn’t give anything!
You should speak about the handling, as looking at movies with Plex and so on. Have someone of them integrated graphics, etc. Rhstd relevant information!
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Where can I download the jellyfish videos? I’d like to benchmark my system using this same methodology in order to determine if I’d get the same performance if I switched to this NAS.
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Do we really need transcoding ? No. I have watched all the videos about Plex transcoding while looking to upgrade my old DS412+ that’s 10y old. I have even purchased the DS1520+ in order to get access to the old Intel CPU with GPU it order to be able to transcode. Looking more into things I realized that transcoding is not anymore important because nowadays the clients available are able to play pretty much everything. I returned my DS1520+ for a much faster DS1522+ and added to my living room a very nice Nvidia Shield TV Pro linked to my NAS. I am easily able to play Jellyfish 4K 400Mbps H.265 10bit with buffer increasing every second. The old DS412+ and Shield could even play the 4K files but not the 10bits ones because of a lack for throughput from the NAS. In conclusion, I am not sure about the pertinence of those transcoding test when you can simply upgrade your clients.
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Here for the pictures of Nas, staying for DS723+ review
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This unit is such a Disappointment! I was so excited to upgrade my DS214Play with this unit. Then everything about it became an absolute disappointment. For the past 15 years I’ve used two different Synology units the same way. Main unit for storage and an external eSATA enclosure for backup (single version). That way at any point in time I had an NTFS copy of everything.
They decided to lock down this unit and the eSATA port is only for Synology to use. It is not usable by the user. That leaves only one USB port. Gees! Even my DS214Play had 4 usable ports on it! Further more the USB port is slower than eSATA. So this unit is a downgrade in that regard. Now add the fact that the dual NVMe slots cannot be used as storage space unless you way over spend on Synology owned drives. Ok, so I’ll use that for cache. NOPE! It’s not cache. It’s some useless smart cache that is only used for frequently read or written files. Completely unlike literally every single cache found on any raid array controller which does both that and acts as real write cache. Then onto the last disappointment. I’m using newer 6TB Seagate Exos Enterprise drives with this unit. Very fast drives. With the 10Gb adapter installed I expected to get a good 500MB transfer speed. NOPE! Starts out at 500 then quickly drops to around 140. Why? This makes no sense. That drive gets over 300 from drive to drive in a PC over a 6Gbps connection. Should be the same over 10Gb. I borrowed a QNAP NAS from someone and set that up. An entire 20GB file transfer saw an average 480MBps (with cache). Yet the DS723+ only averages 218MBps (with useless cache).
Such absolutely pointless decisions on their part. Ah well. I should have held off longer and waited for a USB 4 storage option as this unit is a complete and utter disappointment!
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Such a Disappointment! I was so excited to upgrade my DS214Play with this unit. Then everything about it became an absolute disappointment. For the past 15 years I’ve used two different Synology units the same way. Main unit for storage and an external eSATA enclosure for backup (single version). That way at any point in time I had an NTFS copy of everything.
They decided to lock down this unit and the eSATA port is only for Synology to use. It is not usable by the user. That leaves only one USB port. Gees! Even my DS214Play had 4 usable ports on it! Further more the USB port is slower than eSATA. So this unit is a downgrade in that regard. Now add the fact that the dual NVMe slots cannot be used as storage space unless you way over spend on Synology owned drives. Ok, so I’ll use that for cache. NOPE! It’s not cache. It’s some useless smart cache that is only used for frequently read or written files. Completely unlike literally every single cache found on any raid array controller which does both that and acts as real write cache. Then onto the last disappointment. I’m using newer 6TB Seagate Exos Enterprise drives with this unit. Very fast drives. With the 10Gb adapter installed I expected to get a good 500MB transfer speed. NOPE! Starts out at 500 then quickly drops to around 140. Why? This makes no sense. That drive gets over 300 from drive to drive in a PC over a 6Gbps connection. Should be the same over 10Gb. I borrowed a QNAP NAS from someone and set that up. An entire 20GB file transfer saw an average 480MBps (with cache). Yet the DS723+ only averages 218MBps (with useless cache).
Such absolutely pointless decisions on their part. Ah well. I should have held off longer and waited for a USB 4 storage option as this unit is a complete and utter disappointment!
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Seems that synology still isn’t serving a high end consumer 2 bay for all the plex people. Need to find out what the best is cause i think 99% of the people interested in this have that as the primary use. Seems dumb to not have a cpu good enough to do the hevc transcoding.
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I so remember when Illmatic hit in the 90s. I was i college. Legend. What’s wrong with 99 Problems. Still a nasty beat and a great song. As for Jay v. Nas. I like em both but Ether was nasty. Bodied him on that one.
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How does the DS720+ compare to the DS723+?
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you are missing an important point at 27:40
they dont need to increase the price to add 10Gbe network ports, they actually spend extra money so you DONT HAVE 10Gbe ports by default.
The CPU in this NAS and in all new Synology units natively supports 2x 10Gbe.
All they need to do is wire it to ports and thats it.
They spend extra money to add a 2x 1Gbe NIC which the CPU does not support but that extra money is well spend for them because that way they can sell you an overpriced 10Gbe NIC afterwards.
This needs to be said in every single video about any new Synology NAS as this is extremely anti consumer
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Been lurking for quite some time while our google photos storage fill ups. Gonna be a first time buyer and interested in this model. Is it overkill for automated backup from two phones for photos and maybe security camera back up as well?
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Looks like Synology just wants to capture users in their DSM walled garden, then gouge them for their overpriced, inferior proprietary hardware. No thanks.
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@NASCOMPARES I would be interested in seeing the 923+ against competitors that sports an AMD processor to see how they compared with file IO. I suspect they would be close, and I wonder what the price differential would be?
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It’s the same shit like ds923+ for home users. Also the expensive Synology rebransed componenrs (ssd, ram, 10gbpe)
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I understand that Synology have to hit an appropriate price point with their 2023 NAS devices, but for the same price one can buy a considerably more powerful QNAP. I would like to have a NAS with Synology software and more powerful hardware. I would be happy to pay more for that. Unfortunately, Synology don’t seem to offer this in their latest hardware.
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Wow. Synology DS723+ is a collection of avoidable annoyances to leave buyers hesitant and dissatisfied. Could have been great. Could have been acceptable. But, instead, is unnecessarily disappointing.
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You never mentioned power consumption (i dont think?). When compared to the ds720, which is best on purely power usage over a 24/7 period? I am looking at a 2 bay solely to run my ip cameras 24/7. My 1821 would do everything else. So I’m happy to get the 723 (as the newer unit) if power consumption between the two is negligible.
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Thks & DS223+ or ?bust? (fingers-crossed 😉
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I found it funny you had the 10Gbs OPTION as a big positive, then you were pissed off at the end it wasn’t standard. Love your vids mate, you are the real NAS master and I’m sure you’ll rate higher in google than that rapper in a couple of years! 🙂
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Proprietary is a non-starter when it comes to storage
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**Help Needed**
I have several Apple products and a big PC. I have several 1-2 TB hard drives full of over a decades work.
I’m about to start a business that will be 4k video (1080HD) and picture heavy for media presence.
I took out a 3tb Drop Box account but hate the Drop Box interface and have been flirting with the idea of buying a NAS system; 2 x 4 Tb’s to start with.
Was looking at Synology 2 bay. Could not decide between the 20+ or the other model (around £175). Deciee to wait for the new 2 bay with USB C etc.. but it seems that’s been a bit of a blow out.
What is the best path forward? I don’t want to be too complicated. I just want to store all my stuff in once place and be able to access it across platforms (Mac/PC) and move on with my life, instead of having drawers small HD’s and an annoying drop box that I’m near filling up anyway.
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Glad I Grabbed a 720+!
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So glad I purchased the DS920+ and will be using this until its end of service life…then goodbye Synology, hello QNAP
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QNAP allows using EdgeTPU on the m2 slot. Does 723+ offer such a possibility?
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You wasted 3 minutes of my life with the artsy-fartsy intro. Stick to what you do best.
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I love you man your the white noise for my bad time.
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I bought DS923+ a month ago as a replacement for my aging DS414 and couldn’t be happier with it. All I need is a fast and reliable file server. With 10GbE add on card I can access the volumes as if they are internal PC drives. And I work in VFX business so I’m hitting my NAS hard all day. Couldn’t care less about the plex (which is fine with H264). I don’t understand what the fuss is all about. This is NOT a product for home users wanting a media server. This is a fast business file server. And it just works. Set it and forget it. And what all that QNAP OS crap I wouldn’t touch it if they were free.
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Synology lost me when their removed their USB DAC/Speaker Out functionality. That was really the only reason why I stayed with Synology because it functioned as a beautiful control for my hifi and streaming. It was all so nicely seamless. Removal of this feature basically freed me from Synology. I no longer have to stick with it and accept all those limitations described in the video. The world opened up.
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I have returned my 1522+, the value is not there.
I did prepared 32 gb ddr4 Kingston (2×16 Gb), with 2 x 1Tb Samsung 980, for pool storage, 4 x 8 TB Seagate and 1 x 16 Tb Toshiba.
After setup I’ve received a notification about my ddr4, then for my pool M.2 drives,
then even for my Seagate 8 Tb HDD’s, that all are not compatible.
Nas was working but like this – no thank you.
There is no value for it, at least for me.
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I need more breakdowns of Rob compared to other hip hop artists circa late 90s to late 2000s.
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Proprietary stinks
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Only:
1 GbE ports!
1 USB port and only 5Gb
2 Gb memory
Only Synology NVMe disks
No PLEX support
It’s a joke!
DS723+ should have been named “DS723- – -“ and priced much lower
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NAS is an alien to me. I would like to build my home photo server. Based on my reading, Synology has the friendliest server & client apps for this feature. Is that right?
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With every new device Synology release, I get more glad I bought a DS920+
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Will not buy Synology. So dumb.
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I only have one thing to say, 32GB of ECC Synology memory costs more than the Nas itself.
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Think they have shot themselves in the foot, this one is not for me!
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Synology , artificially hobbled this drive, and that’s not good business for their customers…
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Great intro ????
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As a home user I wasn’t “a little bit disappointed” with the CPU I just ruled it out instantly, same with the 923+. Also as home user have 2.5 let alone 10Gbe is an irrelevance as is ECC. I play Plex and I view photos and store the off files. I don’t use mobile so everything I play is at home, through the latest Apple TV+ 4k so in practice the 723+ will work fine as the Apple TV+ handles everything but it’s still a show stopper for me…because for me its a step backwards. However, I still watch videos from you like this as they are so informative. Keep it up
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Sounds pretty low compared to QNAP 253 and Lockerstor Gen2 Drive, Very disappointing
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Does the DS920+ support these 22TB drives as well?
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Is this a downgrade from previous generations like the 1520+? I was thinking about switching from QNAP to Synology. This seems like another drawback in addition to their outdated 1 Gbits LAN connections. Probably I need to wait another couple of years.
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Used my NAS more for 4k video… still using the DS918+
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Is the NAS using ssd or hdd?
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Ok this is fucked up! There has to be some strategy for dedicated media NASes later on.
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So… Useless for transcoding. Thanks but no tanks synology.
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I currently run a DS1621+ and DS1821+.. Giving the price of electricity, I’ve been toying with the idea of downsizing, to 3 smaller 2-bay NAS… 1 for VMs, 1 for Media storage and a 3rd for backup.. but I have 2 requirements, 10GbE and NVMe, and really QNAP TS253D is the only option, but if Synology do offer the 10GbE mini card, then they have already sold 3 of these 😛 (note I used a seperate NUC for streaming).
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OK, so at least next NAS dilemma is over, 723 and 923 will take AMD subaverage CPU for next 3 years; future owners should be watching over electricity bills since this AMD sucker is a high idle power consumer.
It’s not only about torpedoing Plex HW transcode, but also nitpicking on NIC type, ignoring use of NVMe drives as volumes, blocking USB peripherals, shrinking compatibility support for non-Synology disk drives and attempting to kill 3rd party community support. I expect 723 and 923 to experience even more limitations with respect to the qualified disks through DSM updates/patches.
In one hand, I’m glad I’m still using Synology and not defecting to QNAP which is PoS on it’s own but this could drive off a large part of perspective Plus model buyers.
My DS918 has a working 2.5GBe connection through Realtek USB/Eth adapter which usually reach 250-260 MBps; dual NVMe drives are mounted as mirror volume for app (Plex/Docker) app partition.
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It’s a shame the 1520+ is now end of life without another that is an equal / newer version to upgrade to
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Well, as a QNAP user, I was hoping to switch but having no GPU killed this for me… This is a backward step from 920+ as it offered one. It would be interesting to hear how the 923+ compares 920+ on decoding or GPU accelerated tasks and VM. What’s sad is I’m probably not alone as QNAP has screwed the pooch with their “security” and software – I don’t want to tinker or spend hours figuring out how to secure my NAS and turn off all the “features” because it will compromise *facepalm*. Also, saying a 4-bay is business is focused, makes no sense if you have a lot of media… I am wondering if they will have two versions, one with no GPU and one with GPU in the 4-bay chassis. Anyway, thank you for this update, it helped me decide.
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Wich Plex Version must install for Ds1522+
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Thanks for doing this video. Could you try doing the test with a Plex client on a 4k Smart TV or 4k capable dongle? I’m not sure if its true anymore that most of the devices people own don’t support HEVC. Apple’s supported it on their devices for years now. So has LG. I’ve used the Plex clients on both an appleTV 4k and a bottom of the line LG 4k SmartTV from 2016 devices to watch 4k HEVC movies streamed from a DS116 without so much as a hiccup and without plex pass. I may not be in the majority but I’m pretty sure I’m not that much of an outlier.
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Does a lack of an GPU affect surveillance performance?
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I have learnt the hard way to stick with Intel CPUs for hardware transcoding. AMD has consistently dropped the ball on video hardware accelerated transcoding compared to Intel CPUs and NVIDIA GPUs. A real shame. I always look for Intel CPUs to meet my hardware accelerated transcoding needs.
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I was hoping to upgrade my 718+ to a 4 bay NAS. Looks like it won’t be the 923+ if that does launch with the same processor as expected. The lack of native 10Gb ethernet, together with the price of the optional port, is disappointing too.
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Good bye Synology!
Qnap has been ordered
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Great test vid, cheers. Also thanks for the update on the 923+ on your website. I seriously hoped the 923+ would’ve launched with a CPU that supports hardware transcoding. Disappointed that it’ll probably be just a 4-bay version of the 1522+. All I want in a Synology NAS are: 1) ECC RAM, 2) 4+ bays, 3) hardware transcoding. I can get 2 out of 3 with the 920+ (2 and 3) and the 1522+ (1 and 3) but not all 3…
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Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly. As 4K become the new standard, if I am to spend over 1000$+ on a NAS, I want to be able to futures proof and be fast enough.
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Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly.
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It’s almost impossible to rip 4k video from 4k disks these days. To be honest, I gave up, and all of my ripped movies are in 1080p.
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Can you please review: Asustor Lockerstor 6 Gen2 AS6706T !!!!
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Can you use the Plex client instead to confirm rather than web browser
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Can you do Video Station also? Then also streaming it to something to like a Nvidia Shield that might have the codecs on the playing end to see if it still strains the cpu
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Still 1gbps Ethernet? Synology, are you kidding me?
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Thanks for the news about the DS723+. Sad to hear that there won’t be a chip with imbedded graphics on it, so I guess that I will either have to wait for the DS923+, or buy the DS920+.
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it’s a good thing I bought the TS-464 and didn’t wait for the new Synology NAS. I hope I don’t regret this decision in the future when I get deadbolted xD
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I was on the fence 920+ vs 923+. I went ahead and jumped on the 920+ when it went on sale a few months ago and I’m glad I did. Sounds like the 923+ will likely use the ryzen. No embedded graphics is a deal breaker for me. I really want 10gbe but it’s not as important as the embedded graphics. And quite honestly I’m very impressed with the celeron, it sure sounded underpowered based on the specs, but it’s a real workhorse. It does everything I ask of it and never bogs down. Everything is snappy. Looks like I’ll just run this 920+ for 5+ years and check then if Synology finally got their act together and understands what their home users want.
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AMD ???? NOOOO
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Is there any indication of what the price will be on the DS723+.
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which Synology NAS would you recommend for just backup of Data , Including Pictures and Videos. I wont be using it to run any applications or programs…thanks
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No decoders = no purchase… This day and age i would expect new NAS lineup to have AV1 decoders to be included and main marketing point.
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My only hope is for the 223+ and 423+ to come with embedded graphics and NVMe support. No home user needs the extension bay that the 723 and 923 bring, so it would definitely make sense to separate the home and business product lines
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So disappointing…Whats the point of buying a new Synology? Why are Synology NAS hardware so underpowered?
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I can’t believe Synology has made this mistake ! No igp… Among the x22 and x23 models, none of them has an igp ? I will keep my DS920+ …
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So… less Cores, no GPU and high power consumption. For me seems better the ds720+ for all these 3 reasons, the most important the high powe consumption compared to the ds720+
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Downgrade to non-plus series for me. 2 cores and 4 threats, 2-4 Gb Ram. Interesting how this will perform with docker and vmm setups. Delicately saying not worth upgrading from 720+, at least knowing this now. That’s my summary unless the price is half of the previous 720+. The last real upgrade of 720+ is DVA1622. I wonder if they clone the same specs to 923+.
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Great video again! I have bought the ds720+ last year with 2 bays and 2x1gb ports. I have a small office with 3 pcs working from the nas as smb file folder so everything is stored on the nas and with mapped folders we work on any pc. May I ask so the transfer speed to read the files is limited to 100mb/sec due to 1gb lab port correct?? If I buy a 10gb nas I will run my files on the synology faster because I do have 2,5bgb lan ports on my pcs?? So it will be 2,5 times faster?? Or the lan ports is for out of the sight use??
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Very disappointed with the CPU…
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My my my … So still no 2.5 gigabit, still no hdmi out, worse transcode.
It seems almost an Apple like hubris.
QNAP it is then!
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That’s crap…..
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1 day too late 🙁 could have bought a 920+ yesterday for a good price but I was curious about the 923+. But with the R1600 in the 923+ I preferred the 920+. I guess I have to wait for Black Friday then.
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I was looking forward to this NAS, or the 923+. Reading this there is no gpu in both of them, a better option would be the 720 or 920. Does their own DS video station app need transcoding?
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Any idea if there will be a 1 bay NAS out as well? DS123j?
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1Gbe AGAIN?! LOL! I’m so glad I switched to Asustor.
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No thank you. AMD has some good low powered CPU’s with GPU. This chip is a downgrade. QNAP and Terramaster is starting to look good.
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Sick of Synology and their shenanigans. I love the Synology OS and ecosystem, but my parts will be here this week for a TrueNas build. $300 for a system with dual 10Gbe and no limitations or waiting.
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I’m a committed Synology user for the last 10 years and this coupled with the hard drive compatibility issues will finally see me cross over to QNAP.
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No embedded graphics no interest. Synology can feel damn lucky QNAP can’t get their crap together and gets hit with randsom and security issues on a monthly basis. Essentially being no option as well, even when they stomp all over Synology,if we talk pricing and hardware. Better luck next year Synology. I really hope nobody buys this trash. Poor Rob, another year as well with the same DS920+ compare and relevance vids. You love to see them
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Another downgraded pathetic product from Synology.
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Will be great, maybe a glitch for the Plex-users but for all us others, just mainly using SMB and such will this be a great upgrade. Still pleased with my old 918 though, think I’ll run it for some more years, but after that, at least 2.5 GBit will be a thing to have for me.
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Thank´s 😉
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Jeez dude. Synology can’t read the room
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Is it confirmed to be R1600 and not other models in R1000 series?
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CPU AMD Ryzen R1600 and this CPU has no onboard encoders or decoders at all.
Bye PLEX.
Another stupidity as QNAP did with their model TS-673!!!
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This is terrible news for Plex transcoding on Synology, big downgrade compared to Celeron iGPU on the 920+. I’m sure there are benefits for other applications and efficiency, but it’s not like the Celeron CPUs were ever overburdened for typical NAS tasks.
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10GbE, aside this sounds like a downgrade ????
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Bye bye plex…..
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Have been patiently waiting for the 723+ or 923+. Happy to see some info is starting to come out! Look forward to your reviews once hardware is available
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I think for example smb would get better timing with 10gbe. That means smb would probably be a bit faster at transferring very small files. But i dont have 10gbe yet so i am not able to confirm that theory
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I’m not hearing anything regarding the possibility of a new DVAXX23 system. Are there any thoughts on that possibility?
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One question: Why are the WD Red Pro 22TB HDDs all healthy? Did you edited the compatibility file on the Syno or anything else? Normaly only the 14TBs Red Plus are approved at Snologys compatibility matrix 🙂
Thx in advance and Cheers
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WE want Asustor AS6706T review PLZ !
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Thank you very much – very helpful ❤ and thoughtful.
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One important test is missing.
10gb + raid 5 + nvme cache.
Would be interesting to see.
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Hi, there is a typo in the cover picture. Instead of DS1522+ it is written as DS152+. Maybe you want to correct it?
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I think ed should talk more and the main guy should sync his microphone volume with ed so i dont keep having to put the voulme down every time he talks .
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I was surprised at how highly you two spoke of the arm processors in the 223j. My first nas was a 220j and it was terribly underwhelming in performance. Maybe it was the 512MB of Ram, but it absolutely failed miserably when I tried running multiple applications especially when I was uploading photos and videos from my phone to photo station would make the system completely unusable for anything else as it tried to process the files and index them. I tolerated it for a few months then upgraded to the DS920+ and I LOVE it. It does everything I ask of it with ease.
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RT1619b boxes will use Linux kernel 5 (5.10.55) as well.
Will be interesting to if there will be Wireguard support (included in the Kernel since v5.6).
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If 1 bay NAS has new model in 2023, will it be start of 2023?
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Btw. according to the source code packages, the EPYCs will – finally – use Linux kernel v5. Unfortunately, in classic Synology fashion, an older version missing some AMD and/or EPYC optimizations.
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I want to move away from iCloud for photo and video storage. Should I get the 2-bay Synology DS220+ or wait for something else to come out this year?
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Thank you for your review, amazing contribution! I have a question related to the processor change that Synology is applying to all new products, from Intel to AMD. Do you think that this could be an earlier DSM compatibility limitation in the future version if I get one DS920+ due to the fact that they use Intel processors? Also thinking on hole future compatibility, it’s not better to go on DS1522+ because it has been just released and uses latest hardware changes that Synology did? Or you think that Synology can still keep Intel processor on DS923+? Thanks!
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Cheers Robbie – Thanks for the news.
Anything in the works for playing DTS audio codec support yet ?
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2.5GBE! LET’S GO
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Do you think we’ll get an upgrade to the DS 620 slim
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I bought DS1621xs+ just a year ago. With all the functionality it does, I do not think I will upgrade to DS1823xs+ when it comes out as all specifications you had put it. As long as Synology sorts out the HDD brand compatibility list for using other brands in their sets, I would refuse to jump into the trap.
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I am just waiting for a Synology with ARM-processor in a DS15xx-series, guess I can live with my DS918 a couple more years since 1GBit is ok for me so far (just photo editing from my client and store data there).
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Will Synology release any NAS’es with the mainstream Intel Core/AMD Ryzen processors? I love the new QNAPs, with the Intel 12th Gen, purely for the 12th Gen’s QuickSync capabilities with Plex. Unfortunately Plex doesn’t support AMD hardware transcoding, otherwise I’d definitely get some sweet, efficient and powerful Zen3/4 one. I’m also thinking of building my DIY NAS with TrueNAS or UNRAID, but it’s really hard to find a modern Mini-ITX motherboard with 4+ SATA ports and a minimum of 2.5GBe ethernet so, QNAP’s 12th Gen Intel solutions look perfect at the moment
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Funny how Eddie sometimes makes faces while listening to Robbie as if to say…nah, he really talks too much and too fast…
And for crying out loud Robbie…. it’s not Ryzon. It’s Ryzen. Zen. Get it.?
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People… Transcoding is completely unnecessary these days!!! I have it on my server and on my phone but with WiFi and 4g and 5g data these days… Not necessary!!! If you worry about quality or cut outs??? Download a copy of it to your device!
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Thanks for the video, and no thanks youtube for not notifying me again!
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I know this might be a strange question, but has someone ever tried to use 4x 100TB Nimbus Data drives in a 4 bay Synology or Qnap? I know this seems to be complete nuts but from the technical point of view, would that even work?
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Synology it’s an mess, on one side dismiss surveillance market without an competitive product with user diy DVA (enable user to add Nvidia GPU or USB m.2 you) and that insanity about “blessed hard drives’, meanwhile no nvme-only Nas no compact pro-sumer units as an all flash successor for desktop FS1018 , and while at last they offer WiFi 6 router’s Asus (reference Brand for good routers) sells a bunch of WiFi 6e with powerful opensource o more featured and even slightly cheaper. I’m quite disappointed and bet no single cent on Synology future.
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Would love to see something similar for QNAP
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Hey, gr8 content. Thank you.
How long it takes for you to respond to my quotation concering nas?
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ha ha ha “the 1522 did a great job of selling 920s”
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The move to AMD has been on the cards for years.
Intel manufacturing has been off the ball for years. Their atom road map has been underwhelming.
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Any information on DS1823+? I have been waiting for months before pulling trigger on DS1821+.
Will it be replaced by DS1823XS+?
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How can I reach you? @NASCompares
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Respectfully disagree with your ‘gut’ assessment of AMD vs Intel. Right now, AMD chips provide the same performance for lower power consumption. Look at the data.
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Straight off the bat guys, I apologise for the ‘humming’ sound in this vid. Trying to sync mine and Eddie’s sound proved 10x harder than it should have been and in the end the balance of the audio was leveraged more towards Eddie (as I am always the louder/noisier/more-annoying one!). Sorry if this makes it tough to listen to at points (particularly when I go a bit ‘high’! Have a great weekend everyone!
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More videos please
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Isn’t there at least one flaw with this test, specifically that your browser does not have the license for h.265/HEVC and therefore the 1522+ NAS must convert to h.264, whereas if you used the proper client interface (e.g “Plex for Windows”) it does have the proper license and therefore no trans-coding would be required
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What’s highest size HDD it can support ? I’ve read somewhere that highest single HDD can be max 16 TB, does this mean I cannot put a 18 TB ×4 ? Can anyone confirm ?
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I just read that with DSM 7.1.1 the AAC audio codec will be REMOVED from the Advanced Media Extensions?! Are my videos with AAC audio now worthless, do I have to re-encode all of them?
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do you know wen they came out (ds923+)?
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That was extremely informative, thank you
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918+ kept crashing. Saw a “open box” 920+ from a reputable ebay seller for $439. Scooped it up. Probably still more than I need. Only 1 user. lol
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This post has been updated with new information regarding the CPU that is almost certain to be featured on the Synology Value series of Diskstation NAS (obtained from official sources) – 01/09/22 , HERE – https://nascompares.com/news/synology-2023-nas-confirmed-releases-predictions/
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Keep it and give us more content. Thanks though!
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oh gawd…it’s like the early days of Netflix online streaming…here goes my PTSD. lol.
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Your channel is remarkable. Purchased the 920+ after watching your several videos. Still learning.
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i love synology but how long should i wait for the 922+…. will soon switch to Qnap…. 2.5 gigabit, Synology wake up its late 2022….
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Great, I’m thinking about using a NAS or still working with external drives.
Thanks for those test.
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Hi, Great video! I’d be glad to make a few tests on my side: could we find all the jellyfish videos to download them? Thanks a lot for your feedback
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Nicely done here Robbie. This confirms my gut feeling to wait for embedded graphics in the 23 series.
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I like these videos (along with the Plex ones since I use plex).
One thing NOT covered is that the variation due to PLEX clients. A PC is fine but try to use something like a Roku streamer and enable VOSUB. That simple thing can drain your CPU because Roku cannot handle DVD with VOSUB well so it must get transcoded.
Same thing for Roku and Blu Ray with PGS subs turned on.
To get around this I had to buy a FireTV (which has its own problems for DTS …).
Anyway, you need not necessarily do anything more complex than 480p with VOSUB and Roku or 1080P with PGS subs with Roku to torture your NAS with transcoding.
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Has that thing a hardware decoding unit people could use for plex or just the usual bullshit?
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THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!…Hey NAS experts! Advice Needed…I’m a Newbie trying to figure out best NAS to buy for family to enjoy mass storage & free up our iPhones internal storages . I shoot 4k videos on iPhone12promax. Have typical home internet 1g connection. I want a NAS family can access REMOTELY via internet (cellular & wifi if avail) on daily basis. *I want 4k VIDEOS to play / stream(?) “smoothly” remotely (via internet) on our iPhones, iPads, MacBook Pro. Which NAS is best? Are any of the Ryzen based NAS models a better choice than 920+ w embedded graphics?….Where does the 1621xs+ fall in the mix? What brand HDrives should I get? Thanks in advance.
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I recently purchased this NAS to add to my existing Drobo 5N2. While I find these video tests very interesting, I have never used my NAS for video encoding. Hence, the Radeon CPU works for me.
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When is about to hit the market another SLIM option from synology for just ssd?
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Thank you for the video. Every reviewer says that AMD is a step forward and everything flies. But frankly the celeron works much better with video encoding. I’d rather go with 1520 than 1522. 10Gbit is fine, but for home users 1Gbit is more than enough anyway. As for me 1522 is a downgrade.
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Nice thank you.
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That’s very annoying. I was about a week away from buying one of these.
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I stopped watching this. Not because it wasn’t good, I enjoy your stuff. I stopped it because I didn’t care anymore. Too little, too late on Synology’s part. I went with Asustor and got everything that the DS923+ might be.
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definately a GIVEAWAY!
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A 923+ with 1Gbe is laughable. QNAP will just dominate that prosumer spot.
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What has happened to the internal Q.C. of this channel? Color correction? Stuttering? Cracking noise? Graphics fonts flashing around the screen? Not nice for viewing for 44 minutes. Sorry to say, to be honest. Mostly love your great NAS content. Cheers for making this video nevertheless.
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giveaways
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The first video by NASCompares I didn’t really enjoy. It was too rushed. Stop worrying about the length of your videos. They are normally spot-on. We come here for comprehensive advice and enjoy the “meat” you provide. If I wanted candy floss, I’d go elsewhere????. Keep ’em coming.
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Why do you think Qnap never went to the next level with the 1677x. I love my 1677. Maybe because they did such a good job with that one? What say you? I’m also hoping that the next Synology 1823+ has an embedded Ryzen with 10g or 4x 2.5g native, PCIe 3 or 4 slot, USB 3.2 connectors, m.2 2280 internal cache, and 16gigs RAM. If they did that, I’m interested.
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We are here for your excellent reviews, so definitely don’t compromise reviews via a giveaway!
Giveaway are nice though – lol.
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Any idea when RAIDz expansion finds its way into release for ZFS on the QNAP?
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While I would love the giveaway… especially if I landed a slightly used QNAP TS-h1886XU-RP ???? … it is probably better for you to keep a lot of the drives, memory etc to perform all the tests etc.
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I couldn’t wait any longer and just bought a DS920+
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I love your prediction videos! I hope all of them come true! My vote is for giveaways, I don’t think you’ll ever run out of great tech topics to enrich us with! Besides, I’d like one of those Synology’s off that shelf behind you like everyone else! Lol ????
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Giveaway and SSD are good giveaways. For overseas viewers. Also disabled veterans maybe good source to give too.
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Give away, might add some seagulls too ????
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Re Giveaway I guess the devil is in the detail. If only to people in UK it might be a bit limiting, if global then unsure if you can afford the shipping costs, etc.? I guess I’d fall into the “more videos” camp.
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I think at this point it’s pretty safe to say that for most non enterprise applications 2.5Gbe is the horse that is firmly in the lead over 5 and 10
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Amazing content, as always. As much as I love the possibility of free stuff, I’d prefer the video content.
Stay cool. Enjoy that deck chair.
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More videos please! Thx
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content
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Synology’s managers are smoking the wrong pot, from an Stellar loved brand NAS, it becomes disgusting and a problem for those that rely on legacy Synology units, not few people are delaying to upgrade until Synology stepdown all those idiotic “premium” policies, theyre wrong from the moment they think they where the Apple of Nas Appliances.
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Moar banana!
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Definitely more content mate! I appreciate the giveaways, but it’s always much more helpful to have direct comparisons between products
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The 1522+ is a terrible nas… agree! -That cpu does not belong in a plus serie nas!
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Giveaway of hdds and ssds, keep the NASes for videos!
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Can you limit your blabber, accent is ridiculous
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New RS 1223+ in this year ?
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Give away! I recently purchase a DS920+ based on your video on Prime Day…still not open.
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Eddie is right. Synology completely screwed the pooch with both the DS1522+ and RS422+ no excuses. You’re being too nice Rob. They deserve to know when they f***ed up.
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Oh now it’s a DS923+ ????????????????
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So when is the predicted release of the DSx23+ Series?
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Your knowledge, reviews, and tech news are give aways by them selves. Regards
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Mode videos please, love stuff but love information more
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LMAO with the intro x-D
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Never had a NAS before & am in the market for one. I was going to pull the trigger on a DS920+ but learned about their model numbering & realised there SHOULD be one this year and I’d be mad at myself if I bought one & the next day the 922+ came out.
Since I’ve looked, the 920+ has been in & around £500. £515 I think I saw it at. Amazon currently cheapest I see at £496.99.
IF it drops considerably, like say £450 tops then I may bite the bullet, but until then I’m going to wait out the 922+ & just roll with external hard drives for now. I’ve managed to get this far without one.
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The sad thing is that the NAS world is still lagging behind when it comes to “transcoding”. With the UHD 6xx integrated GPUs on the CPUs, the Intel CPUs do not get hit as hard as the Ryzen 1600 when you try to play a HVEC/H.265 media file. And for $1,000 USD, the Synology DS1522+ is way over priced since it using an old Ryzen 1600.
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Just picked one of these up for $439 on a newegg deal. Grabbed a 12TB WD Red Plus (7200) for $179 as well. Excited to dive in your video library and get my plex server set up!
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TerraMaster with XPEnology loaded might be my future when I look for my 920+ replacement in 2024. I usually replace my NAS every 4 years with an upgraded model, while the old system still has 75% its value to help fund the upgrade.
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Caved and bought this today 100 bux off for Prime Day @ Amazon.
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Thanks for all your work putting these together….
Now the question…. If you were buying a 4 bay NAS today and wanted it for file storage and mp4 playback, Considering OS security/patching models as very important, which brand would you spend your $ on? I keep coming back to synology with intel and asustor.
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Is it still worth for Plex in 2022?
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Thank you for these benchmark videos. You’re really helping to prevent unhappy customers. If I get this one from your company, at least I know what the capabilities are and won’t be surprised or disappointed down the line. It also gives me more confidence in stepping up to a higher model without worrying that I’m wasting money.
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Thanks for the quick conclusion haha! Still watching till the end. Your videos are packed with so much info lol. ????
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I’ve watched a number of your videos and this has been the best one! Specific subject, conclusion at the beginning, and only 5 minutes long… Keep this format!! Thanks for all the great info!!!
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Isn’t this the 2nd cycle Synology has downgraded things?
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I mean… it honestly looks like a Mac Mini + Thunderbolt drive would be easier to play 4k media.
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My DS920+ is one robust little NAS. I also have a QNAP TS453A which needs major app repair if it ever encounter a power glitch. Mostly manual reinstallations for too many of them. The DS920+ on the other hand is remarkable. A year ago, we had some contractors in the house and I completely forgot about where they were working and how close they were to the 920+ until one of them called out for me to come downstairs. There on the floor was my 920+ with the case covered in dust and 3 of the 4 drives having spilled out of the case onto the filthy floor. I unplugged it, took it all outside and, with an air compressor, dusted it off inside and out. Back onto a safer shelf, plugged it back in and it booted up like nothing had happened. Hurray for Synology.
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You lied to us. You said “under 5 minutes” but it took 5 minutes and 8 seconds.
Seriously, though, I can’t recommend the 920+ enough. Had I chosen to wait for its successor when I was in the market for a NAS last year (around November – December and bought late December), then I wouldn’t have been enjoying one of the best devices I’ve ever bought.
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Pulled the trigger on this, no regrets. Thought I’d want 2.5gbe but haven’t really missed it. Running Jellyfin locally and without the overhead of transferring to a transcode system it’s been fine.
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Awful for plex: remote/multi connection/x265 though
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Any news on a DS922+ ?
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Thank you make me confident that the DS920+ is the best choice for me today (7/2022). Yet I still try to delay my purchase because I am also curious about the 922 model coming… well when? I dont want to wait forever.
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Well, the thing with Ethernet 1GB… it has two, which gives you 2GB anyway; so nothing to complain about 🙂
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Feed your cat.
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i have ben wanting another synology for a while but i would like a quad core version & 5 bays as well as a way to get 10gb and 16-32gb of ram ..i have a rack full of servers doing about any thing you can imagine already but my redundant back up (dual xeon 6 core ea cpu) (UnRaid )x2 server is getting a little long in the tooth & i think i want to replace it with a synology ! i still have 2 Different Dual xeon serversa 4u main media/backup an a 2U(Truenas) + another 1u for my 1gb network ! I have a isolated 10gb network as well but the 920+ and the new what is it 1520 something its a 5 bay i think an seams to have every thing i want other than a quad core chip..an the next step up gets to costly i could build something better for way less once ya hit the 1000$ + range..its a tough call but i do like synology really well !
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With only 40 comments so far I think I have a decent chance to get this in. I am currently ready to buy this model. On your website and other websites it says that Prime Day will likely have it on sale. My question for you, by the way love your material, but my question for you is: does the discounts become available immediately usually, or is it part of those crazy lightning deals? I’m just stalking historically because I’m sure you can’t predict the future.
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Perfect timing! It’s tax time and I was looking at getting one with my tax return. I use plex and have about 4 people sharing with me.
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Very useful as I am looking to replace some very old Readynas Pro machines and 4 bays with 12TB drives would be better than my 6 bays with 3TB drives!
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Last Synology model worth buying it seems as current/future plus models seem to be underpowered, restricted rubbish. Sad.
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Have the DS918+. Got tired of waiting for the DS922+ (to see what it had). I’ve gone elsewhere for my next NAS. Newer CPU, faster memory, 2×2.5Gbps ports and less on the locked down hardware requirements. Sorry Synology but you had your chance…
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Short answer Hell yes!!!
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Pulled the trigger on this and have had it now for about 3 weeks…couldn’t be happier. I’m fine with the 1gb ethernet and probably won’t need anything better till it’s time to replace this model. When I do replace it, I’ll be using it as a backup server. Thanks for another great video.
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Yes, but aren’t we SOO close to a next version ? This is now fully 2 years old, so SOMETHING has to be imminent.
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WOW… Outstanding video in 5 minutes 8 seconds ????????
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Thanks. Looking forward to get one in August. But since I’ve been following the price it is consistently 549 USD on Amazon. Is there another reseller I should be verifying?
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As always, excellent information.. thanks. Always a thumbs up from me.????
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This is going to be my 22 summer prime day purchase if it goes on sale
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Thanks, seriously thinking about buying one of these before the end of August. Waiting for the right price but I would like to see what the future DS922+ will look like.
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I bought it a month ago for lack of better for the same money and I’ve been running a few backup setups and a plex on it and it’s doing great.
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Just bought it yesterday 🙂 so far I’m happy with it. It would be better with a “real” processor, currently it is making thumbnails and video converts for photos app. 70.000 photos and 5000 videos, I think it will take a week to finish 😀 . In one day it did 10.000 photos and 800 videos.
Tho only problem i have, that is is too loud. It would need some foam sound isolation on the inside ot the chassis, and fans too loud even on set to “silent” mode. instead of the 2 small fans, 1 bigger, lower rpm would be better.
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Wanna replace my 920+ with a 92x+ with 10 gigE
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Always thought of the ds920+ as the ultimate multimedia nas.
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This video being released this late in 2022 indicates to me that he has no knowledge (no leaks) of a 922 being released this year……it’s sadly telling. I think Synology is getting away from the “home user.” Their first move was the strict use of their hard drives. The next move will be no move at all, by not releasing an upgrade to the 920+…….just my two cents.
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I really need some support on the software side. Ripping my media but really struggling to understand Plex. Do you do one to one support?
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Any indication that the 922+ will become available soon?
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What is the max supported harddisk capacity? 16?
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Another lost opportunity to put 2.5GB Nics, who cares?
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Under 5 minutes? 5:08 LIES!
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1-st…I’m waiting for the 922+..
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What Synology NAS would you recommend for Plex that can easily play 4k (w/ and without HDR) content?
Much appreciated!
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What if you use a NUC that has a GPU or a beefier CPU with iGPU to run Plex server on it and just mount a volume from the DS1522+ that houses all the media?
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@NASCompares Could you please do a video comparing the new 5-bay DS1522+ with the older 6-bay DS1621+/DS1621xs+ models? I am a home user trying to decide whether to move to a NAS and if so, whether to use a 5-bay or a 6-bay NAS. (I presently have a SANS Digital 5-bay USB RAID in a RAID5 and a Promise Pegasus R6 6-bay Thunderbolt RAID in a RAID6.)
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HELP! If I don’t have any Synology NAS and this is disappointing for many, which Synology I should buy???
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So in this price range, with minimum 5 disc, it is the best Plex media server product that is comfortable in 4k. What are the options?
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Picked up a 1520+ last month for home use to replace my decade old ReadyNAS and no regrets. I was able to get rid of my dedicated plex server with quadro and loving all the features of synology like backup which I in fact use old ReadyNAS as a backup repository.
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Finally, thanks for the testing. You’ve helped me make up my mind. I’m definitely sticking with a 1520+. I made a call to Synology, and had a long “talk” about the lack of an integrated GPU on the 1522+. No sensible response. Synology REALLY dropped the ball with this “upgrade”.
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How is the performance if you are not doing any transcoding?
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Was waiting for this one sir! TY kindly!
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I did some tests as well at mine DS920+ and all are working good. the transcode from the HEVC works great.. and then im also running a lot VM and Dockers haha.. only the 4K will be get trouble yes.. that will be hard. further im very happy with my DS920+ still a very good machine and im really use a lot of applications on the NAS..
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Thank you for this review, I was waiting for it, sad that this nas isn’t playing 4K that’s a big blocker for me… Real shame as I wanted to buy it ????????♂️ going to check out 920+ or the 1520+ instead… Who knows I might go nutz and get 1621+/xs ????????♂️
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Following what I thought was a system failure on my Synology (very old DS412+), I was in a real bind for a couple of weeks. I was torn between replacing it with a DS920+ or waiting on the pending release of the much vaunted DS1522+. The agony!
In the end I needed my NAS, so I bought a DS920+.
I was originally sad, but having seen this review, and several others, I’m so glad I didn’t go down this rout. Bad Synology! Hope they learn the lesson for the next gen. The box fulfills two principle requirements: Fast, reliable storage for my photographic work, and media services. Of course the DS1522+ would likely have been the go-to box if storage was my only concern, but for now I’m very happy with the DS920+ box that provides me with storage and media provision very well indeed.
On a side note, having recovered all my data off the DS412+, I dropped the machine back to factory setting. I formatted all the disks, factory reset and re-installed the O/S. That perceived issue was subsequently fixed. Now I’ve got my new DS920+ as the backbone NAS and a DS420+ for archival file storage and a nominal backup resource.????
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So disappointing, how does it handle Surveillance Station with H265 4K security cameras?
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looking forward to the comparison. I feel that the 920 is the perfect NAS for Home User
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I am still a bit confused tho. I have watched many of your vids now, and every time (and you even show it) how the ds1520+ (same nas as i have) has integrated graphics. But still, when i try to use video station, it always absolutely EATS my cpu even with hardware decoding on. I sometimes cant even watch a video without some hiccups. Do i need to activate hardware decoding somewhere else to?
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21:56 Ehm… UHD is ≈ 4K. Don’t you mean bitrate?
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Do you know when we can expect 922+?
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synology is so disappointing for plex servers…
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When you do the Emby test remember to use the diagnostics plug in so you get the user sessions tab, this gives you a lot more detail on how the CPU is doing while playing back a video.
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I have my 1019+ for backup and Plex server ~ seems like I should stick with this than to get this model when I’m Plex focus ?
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Thanks for the review, disappointing Synology put in a cpu that can’t handle 4K
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As far as I know the Plex Web Application will buffer only a certain percentage for video playback while the Plex Application (for Windows) will buffer more or all of the footage when paused. At least that is what I was able to see when comparing the Web App and the Native App.
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I’m interested in DVR functionality as well. I have 4KUHD, BluRay 1080P, and most importantly DVR files from a HDHomeRun network tuner. Especially the Mpeg2 and Transcode while recording performance.
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Good video! btw thumbnail typing error? “DS1552+”
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Enabling stats for nerds would be great for frames dropped
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Guess I’m still sticking with my DS920+ for a while. Still works great for me
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First!
Great video mate ????
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I took your advice and went 2.5gbe and also bought a Asustor AS6702T Nas with NVME storage, I am having the easiest of times setting up the Nas it is so simple. Watching Blu-ray files from the Nas is super fast. Thanks for all your help. Looks like I’m planning for 10gbe in the near future.
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I only have 1Gbe router. If I buy a 2.5Gbe USB C Ethernet adapter, would the speed increase compared to a 1Gbe connection?
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Workstations have 10gbit on almost every port now USB etc. Except for the one you use the most, your network interface port. It is not overkill, it’s falling behind in my opinion. A lot of people rather have wifi for network connections nowadays cause it is surpassing their cabled network speeds and it is more convenient. If you still care to put a cable through the ceiling you better have something that makes it worth it! Large capacity NAS at the read and write speed of local SSDs.
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I have 2.5GBe right now. no switch either. just added an extra 2.5g nic in my server and desktop, and have them as an additional direct NIC. updated hosts file on my server and voila, my server can be accessed at 2.5g for $50.
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Hi m8, watched a good few videos regarding NAS, are you interested in a video tutorial setting up a semi cheap NAS setup with semi total noob build. I Have the parts etc, but cache disk, OS and RAID setup are still total nightmares for someone like myself still surfing channels to find a definitive answer to my questions?
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Intel or Ryzen in NAS ? Which one to go for ?
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I belive wifi ratings include the overhead and payload of packets, where ethernet speeds are just the payload, something to keep in mind
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I have 2.5G fiber (upgraded from 1G a couple months ago) in my house. I’m still waiting for a router with multiple 2.5G ports. Most only have it on the WAN or the LAN, but not both. Really frustrating. Hopefully that changes with the upcoming Wifi 7 routers.
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Only the newest 10GbE equipment will negotiate down to 2.5 or 5 gigabit. Those speeds were not available until 2016, when 10 GbE had already been around for a decade.
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I picked up a QNAP TS453D not long back to replace an older Qnap with the dreaded bad firmware update. It’s got twin 2.5Gbe ports on it but the trouble I’ve found is there’s limited routers and network switches currently available to actually utilise this feature. I even decided to update to a wifi 6 router (as I’ve got a wifi 6 laptop). While the routers got link aggregation, they’re still only 1Gbe ports. The only router that did have 2.5Gbe (ASUS) was considerably more pricey and didn’t have link aggregation either – so barely worse off having twin 1Gbe ports.
Besides, the features only useful IF the laptop had 2.5Gbe capability too. But still OK if you’re running a few devices concurrently sending data (at least the transfer speeds aren’t bottle necked).
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Wish 2.5GbE would become standard, 1GbE is way to slow these days.
My pc has 2.5GbE, My Router has 2.5GbE, My Synology 5 bay NAS has 1GbE 🙁
Network is only as good as the weakest link.
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You touched on it, but to expand:
You are only going to get a maximum speed equal to the weakest link in the chain.
If your Internet and router is 2.5gbps, but your switch is 1gbps and your old laptop’s network card is 100mbps, then you will never get performance from that laptop faster than 100mbps.
I have 300mbps ethernet and 1 PC with 1gbps LAN, and 2 PC sticks with 100mbps LAN.
The PC sticks will only ever send/receive at a max of 100mbps to either the internet, the other PC stick, or the PC.
The PC will only get internet of 300mbps and the communication between the PC and the sticks will be 100mbps max.
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My APs have 2.5Gbe ports. I am researching POE switches with 2.5Gbe ports.
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I don’t really need 2.5g everywhere , but I would like it on my core connections. sadly I cannot find a cheap 4 or 8 port switch (unmanaged) with a 2.5g uplink port and the rest as 1GB ports . If anyone knows of one , comment below.
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Fun future-proofing story – built my house over 20 years ago. The town had no cable internet yet, but I still had every phone plate box run with 2 Cat 5 cables. First, wired for multiple phone lines, then DSL came. When real ISP came, 4 wires got me 100Mb speed. As we didn’t need the phone lines for dial up, over time I rewired each port to have full 8 wire 1Gb connectivity.
At 2.5Gb, it’s only one room that needs this. My home office with multiple computers and NAS. Exactly right that 2.5 is pretty cheap to add, and my spinning drives aren’t saturating that. Unless I change to a RAID configuration on the desktop, this setup will work for quite a while.
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95% of homes have cat5e, so there’s no question of 10GbE without ripping the walls, which isn’t a problem at 2.5GbE. 95% of WiFi6 APs have 1 GbE LAN, so how do you want to use the full WiFi6 bandwidth, between laptop and NAS, laptop and internet etc. If you want to take full advantage of WIFi 6, you have to buy the most expensive AP which has, guess what… 2.5GbE LAN.
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Wow. RS422+ with no NVME and no upgradable memory? The QNAP TS-435XeU is looking more attractive.
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Yes but only if you buy basic nas’s, 10gbe is better , you can buy 10gbe 2nd hand switches and nics so cheaply now and often only need a switch with 2 x10 for your main pc and nas.
1100mps is what your nas can do in a raid or with m.2 on 10gbe.
280mps is good for budget nas’s where you have max 2 drives mech models or cheap Sata SSD’s its good to see entry level at 2.5gbe
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Synology Buys holding off for 2.5Gbe
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Intel Nuc low End I3 have 2.5Gbe now
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Synology is sadly missing the Boat. I have 1 2.5 Gb Network on almost all the workstations Server, 2.5GBe I will have Fiber connect soon. Qnap and many other have Nas have 2.5Gbe , I have talked to Synology Tech Support no word on any 2.5GBe sadly Nas box after 2.5GB Fiber, will be the slowest device in the Network , Does anyone have and info on 2.5GBe from Synology
Qnap has had it for years
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Nice! Would like to see a 2.5gb video showing a setup. Maybe with connectivty to NAS devices that don’t have a 2.5gb adapter (usb or card added) and a more modern one. What Cables do i need? Virutalization station concerns? Port binding? that sort of thing.
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Don’t forget to check your specs. Many early 10Gbe chipsets don’t support 2.5Gbe and 5Gbe. Buying cheaper switches may leave you stuck at 1Gbps if they don’t support the middle speeds.
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I went with 2.5Gbe on my 4 bay NAS. It’s an older Asustor unit. Several computers need to access it at the same time. My Plex Server saves all DVR files there and my Transcoding setup transfers files off and back on. It really helped with congestion when streaming from Plex. I’d go up to 10Gbe with my next NAS.
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I really love your videos! You explain things in such clarity just one thing, why are they so long?
I noticed that in one of your videos you repeated the same thing 4 times (different examples) before getting to the heart of the issue.
Can you please try to make your videos shorter?
Thanks!
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Want full 2.5/10Gb speed? Full DATA PATH upgrade is always required 🙂
2.5Gb should be an entry data speed standard. 1Gb is to just slow for current performance of internal devices. Also 2.5Gb might be last standard that can be thermally manageable in laptops or SFF/Thin clients. 5 and 10 are just too hot. Also 5 and 10Gb are fast but use of external USB/Thunderbolt devices is not what you would call stable…
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can i use a usb to 2.5gbe on my synology NAS
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2.5GbE is too slow, I recommend 10GbE ????
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Thank you for putting this out, practical thinking is hard to do when speed is the topic. Time to stay grounded and avoiding distractions is the way for me. Lol. Cheers.
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Ese atuendo me vuelve loco fukada-jpp.monster loco contigo y tienes ese cuerpo curvilíneo, hiciste un buen trabajo modelándolo también. También me gusta el último atuendo. Me encantac cómo los cinturones de liga se.
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I’m just starting to move everything to 2.5gb with my truenas running a 10gb. But I’m also seeing better performance from my 1gb devices.
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I’m running 10 Gb/s at home so the answer to this debate is kind of obvious to me.
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Firstly, I am impressed by your ability to count by 2.5. I have a new PC arriving today that has 2.5GbE built in. Luckily, it also has 10GbE built in. (It’s a Core i9 Intel NUC 12 Extreme.) I’ve been 10GbE in my home lab for nearly a decade, starting with a Netgear switch, progressing to as used Arista Networks switch and finally installing a Ubiquiti aggregation switch a few months ago. The Ubiquiti switch has four 25GbE ports as well, so I’ve gone an upgraded my two Dell PowerEdge servers to 25GbE with Mellanox fibre cards. I’ve upgraded my two big Synology NASes as well. The Synologys support the Mellanox cards out of the box. I consider the 2.5GbE standard a “feature” aimed at consumers to get them to buy hardware (again). 10GbE is and has been an enterprise solution for a very long time now. It’s too bad vendors have been so slow to get on the 10GbE bandwagon. A 10GbE NIC or switch shouldn’t have to cost more than a 1GbE or 2.5GbE NIC or switch.
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For a home/SOHO network, being able to transfer files at around 280MB/s is a big upgrade from just 105MB/s. That reason alone is enough to use 2.5GbE.
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Any plans to test if it allows better access or throughput to a nas when compared to using gigabit on the same device?
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2.5Gb is 10 years too late.. huge bottleneck with modern drives.
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for me convient. faster than 1 GB, cheap, works fine and none of my Hardware is bottlenecking it. Did i think about 10gig…yes, but this would have caused such an upgrade cascade….
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My DS918+ is getting a bit long in the tooth now. If the DS922+ comes out like that 5 bay or that rack mount then it might be time to switch back to Asustor. Must be an Intel chip with graphics. Must not require Synology drives/memory. Must have 2.5Gbps LAN slot. (Don’t care about the upgrade card). If that does and the new router has it then that could be the start of a 2.5Gbps upgrade frenzy in my house…
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What about Synology soft locking their devices to their own branded drives? I’d definitely not but one now. Contributing to e-waste and higher margins that’s all.
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The new Span dude doesn’t even show himself. I’m beginning to understand why.
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it is becoming abundantly clear to me that two NAS houses are going to become a thing. Synology for photo and file backup and qnap for Plex.
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so legit questions he doesn’t answer but the chest shaving question…….yea, that’s the question he take time to answer. lol classy.
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I wouldn’t think RS422+ is that bad device for the right use case:
let’s say you’re a small business with own proprietary server, doesn’t matter if some Windows Server applications or MacMini used as file server,
in the end you need reliable storage rack unit, which this exactly is – no need for fancy cpu/ram or software, just direct iSCSI or SMB connection and that’s it,
it’s good Synology is aware of such market, and they deliver,
of course it will highly depend on actual cost of such device, but many people are already running their NAS servers just fine, they just need storage solution, which wouldn’t be a dependable expansion unit, but separate device – there’s 20TB Exos and IronWolf Pro, so even with RAID5 there’s affectively 54GB storage in single-rack-height unit,
10Gbe should automatically be an optional expansion on every SMB NAS in 2022, especially when “budget” PCs and Macs already offer that onboard,
perhaps Synology will come up with 10Gbe optical variant later, again something possible useful for businesses…
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It do think that Intel are part of the Synology problem. There celeron release schedule has really hindered Synology.
However, I would love to upgrade my ds918+, but 2.5gbe is mandatory. I need that speed. Working off network drives, on media files just eats bandwidth. I need to move files to my mvme drive to work. Which is a ball ache.
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Any chance these Syno-only 10GbE “upgrade” options could result in DSM holding back full-fat-functionality with SMB multichannel (if and when…)?
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Hey I made it in the screenshot as a bystander haha nice
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They arr trying to get you to take your shirt off. Don’t fall for it.
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you are awesome. I love your videos and will continue to follow you :).
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It does feel a little like they’re pushing a set of people to outsource the parts that the NAS can’t handle (eg transcoding) but then if you have a decent NUC for example you may as well let it handle the other stuff like virtual machines/docker etc so when it comes to upgrade suddenly the case for Synology isn’t as strong as it was.
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Forget about synology wee need to talk about the salon you do your monthly chest waxing in
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Having 2.5GbE does this Create issues with selling some of Synology Nas boxes the Low end shouldn’t be affected , Would they get hurt in DS220+ or higher boxes 4 Bay or Even a 5 Bay Box. Do they want us to Buy at least a 5 Bay Box to get 10GbE to make the most $$$ , not all my clients need 5 Bay Boxes
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Trying not to Buy any New 1GbE products from Synology Need to have 2.GbE cards min. . New Computers buying all have 2.5GbE in them , Coming up 2.5GbE on Fiber for Internet about 3 months from now. So the Nas will be the slowest Link in the Network. Qnap has had 1.5Gbe since the Middle of 2019. I called Synology Tech Support and they said not many people have asked for 2.5Gbe , Asked more than once other time Tech acted like maybe they would skip over 2.5 GbE , like it would only be around for a short period of time in the market.
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Synology seem to be ignoring the Plex users and won’t put all the media hardware bits n pieces in the same box at an affordable price and start dominating their competition. Mr Qnap must be Mr synology’s brother in-law or something ????
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Thank you both. I would be very disappointed if the 2022 5-bay does not have embedded graphics. As a home user (and very small business – 2 people) I am looking for a NAS that provides backup, file sharing and entertainment, I currently have a DS 1817+ with 8 x 4TB drives in SHR 1. I am looking to double my total storage capacity and also want to stick with WD Red Plus 14TB (to reduce noise). So a 5 bay would be perfect. The 4-bay DS 922+ (or whatever) would be a bit short in that sense and I do not want to go into the extension business and spread my volume over 2 units. If synology is truely removing the 5 bay from the prosumer range … not sure what I would do … get the DS 922+ with 4 20TB in SHR1 …. this could get me where I want to be, around 60TB, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE? Any experience? The NAS would reside in a condo, not an office, so noise is kind of important.
ANY RECOMMENDATION?
Btw I have used my 8 X 4TB WD Red for over 8 years over 2 NASes , and they have been working like a charm (including very tolerable noise level).
Thank you for your valuable insights. I would ignore all the very disrespectful comments. Not worth getting your BP up for it. Cheers.
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Guys , Great discussion !! I own 2 synology Nas setups DS214play and a DS415+.
I am interesting to learn about the potential new hardware features . I plan to buy another one soon .
Good content ,Please keep it up ???????? ???????????????????????? .
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What’s funny is although the DS920+ was underspec’d when it arrived, its still a better NAS than this spec sheet. Put it back in the oven, its not done yet. If they really want to run something that is this single minded on a small NAS, just don’t sell it and point people to TrueNAS. What perceived need do they think they are actually meeting here?
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so what is recommended for consumers that’s more than 2 bays these days? I run plex from a DS1821+, along with some docker containers and what-not, but it was pricy. I don’t know what to recommend to others at this point. I keep a lot of data though, so I wanted a lot of bays.
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Synology NAS hardware is EXTREMELY stale, they’ve bled the series dry and the only thing keeping me hanging around is DSM 7.1 and SHR. The new series needs a strong performing multimedia cpu and at a minimum 2.5 GbE, really needs full 10 GbE. I am not going to drop hundreds on a brand new next gen NAS and turn around and fsck with a add on card. I’m in the market for a new NAS and right now if the tech leak is on point Synology is going to be making one fewer sale at a minimum
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Came for the Synology discussion. Got chest hair. ????????
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SEAGULLS!
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Important – So, full disclosure. About 3/4 of the way into the recording, it became clear that the audio between me and Eddie was a bit fragmented and delayed, so apologies if this communication breakdown makes the last portion seem a bit off. Thanks for watching and share your thoughts on this subject in the comments! Have a great week and cheers for watching.
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