The Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS Compared
The choice for businesses that are making the move away from third-party cloud services, or those looking to add a NAS to the existing multi-tier data strategy, has never been larger than in 2021. Right now, for businesses looking at a reliable desktop solution to wrap their business data around it’s pretty exhaustive, with many brands and hundreds of distinct solutions all vying for your money. Two brands that have maintained a comfortable dominance in this SMB tier of the storage industry are Synology and QNAP, so today I want to take a closer look at their two respective 8-bay NAS solutions, the Synology DS1821+ and QNAP TS-873A. Each one providing the full range of software services advertised by each brand, they also provide very similar hardware architecture at a comparable price point. However, each brand has a markedly different understanding of what they think business users look for in a 8-bay NAS solution in 2021 and it is in HOW they provide that hardware and software to the end-user that really separates these two NAS solutions. So today, I want to compare the DS1821+ and TS-873A NAS, show where your money goes and ultimately help you decide which one deserves your data.
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – What Can They Both DO
Despite each brand taking a very different stance on what you need for your storage in 2020/2021, there is still a large amount of cross over in the software and utilities that each provides with your NAS purchase. With their own respective first-party applications for backups, multimedia, surveillance, VMs and more, you are going to get a remarkably well-featured device, whichever one you choose to invest in. Both Synology DS1821+ and TS-873A systems provide/support:
- Both units feature the AMD Ryzen V1500B processor for a good price vs hardware balance
- Both can Stream and Transcode on the fly (so, live) 1080p HD or 4K media, with superior performance natively and mid-range performance in Plex, however, both do this by using software transcoding, as the main processor is not graphically embedded
- Both the Synology DS1821+ and TS-873A NAS support AI-supported photo and ‘thing’ recognition supported to a very high degree from the free branded software included
- For Business users who currently enjoy the use of G Suite or Office 365, both of these NAS provide excellent means to backup your mass cloud accounts (as well as natively sync, dupe and configure rules on the fly)
- Both the TS-873A NAS and DS1821+ NAS support snapshots, for more incremental and version protecting failsafe in efforts to protect you from Malware and Ransomware attacks, by allowing multi-versioning storage history to browse through and restore
- Both units are DLNA certified so can be accessed, browsed and played from by popular DLNA devices, such as Amazon Firestick, Alexa, Google Home, Chromecast, DS1821+ TV, Bose, Sonos, iPads, etc, as well as connectivity between these platforms with IFTTT
- Both are multi-bay, RAID enabled devices NAS devices that support JBOD, RAID 0 and RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6 and RAID 10 (as well as Synology Hybrid RAID too for their Plus series range), as well as supporting the very latest SATA based 16TB and 18TB NAS Hard Drives from brands like WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf, Western Digital UltraStar and Seagate EXOs media. As well as the Synology solution supporting their own first-party HAT5300 HDDs.
- Both devices run on their own proprietary operating system that can be accessed remotely or locally. These include regular updates to the firmware, security patches, applications and more. Ranging from multimedia, home and multi-tiered backup applications, to more business end tools such as Surveillance software, Virtual Machine deployment and business-class backup and synchronization tools.
- Both the TS-873A and DS1821+ use and can be accessed equally by a multitude of mobile applications such as DS File, DS Video, Moments, DS Photo, DSCam and DS Music that are created by and constantly improved by Synology. As well as QFile, QMusic, QuMagie and QManager from QNAP for iOS and Android.
- Both NAS are completely compatible with Windows, Android and Mac systems, as well as acting as a bring between software platforms to share and distribute files for migration and file sync (with improvements in newer DSM 7.0 later in 2021 to Mac Finder file streaming and file pinning
- Both units can be used as a mail and/or business servers, providing excellent 3rd party CRM and first-party CMS systems. There is the Synology collaboration Suite of applications Chat, Drive, Mail, Calendar, Office and Active Backup Suite. Whereas on QNAP there is the QMail, Hybrid Backup Sync 3, Virtualization station and BoXafe tools
- Both systems support the NVR use with QVR Pro and Surveillance Station applications, support numerous cameras and arrive with at least 2 camera licenses with your purchase (8 Camera Licenses with the QNAP)
So, regardless of whether you buy the TS-873A or DS1821+ NAS, you are going to have a remarkably functional NAS drive. But, let’s dig a little deeper into the differences between these two devices.
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – DESIGN
The physical design of a NAS is far less important than that found in a PC, laptop, phone or indeed any device that is regularly seen/interacted with, but it still has to be said that a number of users will keep a NAS system in their local office environment and in line of sight. The design of a NAS, aside from vague factors of appearance, also has to factor in elements such as cooling, general ambient noise and physical space. Once again, Synology and QNAP go in very different directions in terms of physical design, with the DS1821+ and TS-873A utilising familiar hardware design found in the portfolio of each brand.
The Synology DS1821+ features a much more understated and discreet chassis, as well as being the physically less imposing of the two by a small percentage. The Synology has a design that blends easily into the background of other hardware devices in your environment, as well as being the lower noise level option of the two in this comparison full. All real-time information from the system at a glance (so, outside of logging in remotely with a client) is provided via a limited, but still useful selection of LEDs that denote system activity, access and drive utility. The chassis that is featured on the Synology DS1821+ has been used in numerous other releases in the last few years and although shows little change throughout all of those versions, is still a very popular model aesthetically and it’s understandable why Synology would be reluctant to change this recognisable brand chassis. In fact, the front panel aside from LEDs and drive bays is tremendously understated, aside from a USB 3.2 Gen 1 port (5Gb/s) for adding backups over a DAS connected drive to your storage strategy.
The QNAP TS-873A by comparison to the DS1821+ is noticeably more rugged and industrial in its aesthetic. Although both devices are predominantly metal in design, the QNAP is that little bit more metallic overall. The system uses a modified version of their popular 8-bay chassis design and on this enclosure, along with LEDs, it features a Real-Time LCD panel to provide system information at the touch of a button to the end-user. This panel provides information on network interfaces, storage health, system temperature along with a few others. Much like the Synology DS1821+, the TS-873A also features that front-mounted USB port, however, this one includes a fractionally more interactive one-touch copy button and also impressively is USB 3.2 Gen 2 in architecture (10Gb/s). The design of the QNAP TS-873A is certainly noticeably bulkier and arguably more industrial than that of the Synology DS1821+. Ultimately, despite more hands-on and direct access options being built into the design of the QNAP TS-873A chassis, I feel that the understated and discrete Synology DS1821+ provide the better design. Likewise, the QNAP TS-873A solution is seemingly the more typically power-hungry and marginally louder in ambient noise level when in operation in like-for-like hardware environments. This is still a minor point however when comparing these two chassis and involves a large degree of consideration to the network environment of most SMB users.
Result – You Should Buy the Synology DS1821+ NAS
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – INTERNAL HARDWARE
The internal hardware featured inside the Synology DS1821+ and QNAP TS-873A system again is rather similar and both devices are using a similar degree of component choice in their architecture. Though there are a couple of notable differences internally that show how each brand has prioritised the available PCIe lanes (x16) from that Ryzen CPU. Below is a breakdown of the internal/external hardware and we will go through those main key differences between them.
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Model | SYNOLOGY DS1821+ NAS Drive
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QNAP TS-873A NAS Drive
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Processor model | AMD Ryzen V1500B | AMD Ryzen V1500B |
Processor architecture | 64-bit | 64-bit |
Processor clock | 4-core 2.2 GHz | 4-core 2.2 |
Hardware encryption engine (AES-NI) | YES | YES |
Memory | ||
System memory | 4 GB DDR4 ECC SODIMM | 8 GB DDR4 SODIMM |
Pre-installed memory modules | 4 GB (4 GB x 1) | 8 GB (8 GB x 1) |
Total memory slots | 2 | 2 |
Maximum memory capacity | 32 GB (16 GB x 2) | 64 GB (32 GB x 2) |
Storage device | ||
Number of Disk Slots | SATA 3.5″ & 2.5″ | SATA 3.5″ & 2.5″ |
M.2 disk bay | Yes, NVMe (Caching) | Yes, NVMe (Caching or Storage) |
Disk hot swap support | YES | YES |
External port | ||
RJ-45 Network ports | 4 x 1Gbe | 2 x 2.5Gbe |
RJ-45 10GbE network port | N/A | N/A |
USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps port | 3 | 1 |
USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps port | 0 | 3 (2x A and 1x C) |
eSATA port | 1 | 0 |
PCIe | ||
PCIe expansion | 1 x Gen3 x8 slot | 2 x Gen3 x4 slots |
Noise value* | 22.2 dB(A) | 23.0 db(A) |
Timer switch | YES | YES |
Wake on LAN | YES | YES |
Power supply/transformer | 250W | 250W |
Power consumption power* | 59.8 W (Access)
26.18 W (HDD Hibernation) |
54.06 W (Access)
25.66 W (HDD Hibernation) |
Warranty | 3 years, which can be extended to 5 years coverage | 3 years, which can be extended to 5 years coverage |
Although both have tremendous similarity in their specifications above, the QNAP has clearly made a more diverse range of hardware choices with the available architecture. The first big stand out are those M.2 NVMe bays found on the DS1821+ and TS-873A. In either case, these devices enable you to install two superfast NVMe SSD inside the system that allows you to leverage their high-performance, high IOPS and low latency to improve access and I/Os in a number of ways inside the slower but larger capacity hard drive RAID array in the main 8 SATA storage bays. However, although both the btrfs Synology and ZFS QNAP both hugely take advantage of improvements in SSD caching, only the QNAP TS-873A allows you to also use these NVMe bays as a raw storage pool instead. The benefits of using super-fast NVMe SSD for raw storage inside the system, as well as allowing faster potential bandwidths connections (10G, 25G) externally to be further saturated, are going to be hugely appealing to content creators and those that work in the media industry. It should be highlighted that you will still need to factor the specific PCIe architecture on these ports and RAID considerations in your hardware setup in the TS-873A, to take advantage of this performance though. Likewise, because the PCIe lanes of this CPU, the NVMe slots on the QNAP are PCIe Gen 3×1 (1000MB/s), so if you do use them for raw storage, remember that you will only see a maximum 2000MB/s performance with a pair.
Likewise, in further upgradability, both systems feature a PCIe upgrade option to improve hardware in the TS-873A and DS1821+ in the lifespan of the system. The Synology DS1821+ has the higher-performing PCIe connection at Gen 3 x8 (8000MB/s potential card-to-host throughput), but the QNAP has two PCIe slots at PCIe Gen3 x4 each (so, 2x 4000MB/s cards). User preference will obviously play a part, but it is worth remembering that without expansions, a 8-bay will only really saturate a single 10Gbe port card with maybe a little more in the tank to justify a 2x 10G NIC (with expansions enclosures, 2000MB/s would be possible). Additionally, it’s worth remembering that the DS1821+ largely supports the Synology first-party range of cards more than any other (along with a handful of intel and Mellanox). Whereas the QNAP TS-873A supports a much larger range of PCIe upgrade cards (3rd and 1st party) that along with standard network cards, even include graphics cards, SSD storage cards and Wi-Fi 6 upgrades.
The TS-873A is clearly the better internal hardware option overall compared with the DS1821+. The simple fact that the QNAP provides everything that the Synology does internally, then provides them more so is inarguable and for me, the QNAP TS-873A wins this round.
Result – The QNAP TS-873A wins for better overall available internal hardware
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – EXTERNAL HARDWARE
When I say external hardware, I really mean the ports and connections of these two devices. How you plan to interface with the Synology DS1821+ or QNAP TS-873A NAS in your home or business environment may well impact which of these two solutions is best suited to your needs. Both systems can be accessed via the internet and via the network by multiple users at any one time, as well as arriving with numerous third-party client applications and first-party tools to utilise your data in the best way possible. But external connectivity of the Synology or QNAP NAS does differ quite a lot on both (again, on Day 1 and Day 1000) and later in the systems life, once you introduce peripherals on your client devices, the way you use the NAS might well change.
In terms of network connectivity, the Synology DS1821+ arrives with four individual Ethernet ports at one-gigabit each. That means that you can utilise these ports for separate connections, failover architecture and link aggregation to combine the total network bandwidth up to a potential 4Gbe maximum. For those that want greater than this level of network connectivity, you will have to look at occupying that available PCIe expansion slot with something a little more hardcore down the line (10Gbe, 25Gbe, etc), but as it stands the system will a maximum for 400MB/s+ out of the box. Alongside this, the DS1821+ also features two USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports (5Gbps) for external storage and a small range of network peripherals. Finally, we find eSATA expansion ports that allow you to connect two of the official five-bay DX517 expansion chassis and allows a total 18 bays of storage across the whole system once attached.
The QNAP TS-873A on the other hand provides similar yet greater levels of connectivity compared with the DS1821+, but does it in a noticeably different way. For example, the QNAP TS-873A features just two network interface ports, but these are 2.5Gbe and translate to 2.5x the ones found in the Synology, resulting in a maximum 500MB/s+ external throughput. The TS-873A also features several USB ports in USB 3.2 Gen 2 & 1 architecture, allowing you to connect a larger selection of both storage and network adaptors. These USB ports (as well as the PCIe slots) are also used for expansion devices and allow the QNAP TS-873A to attach several supported expansion devices (4/8/12/16 Bay chassis) and to a larger total number of drive bays than the maximum available on the Synology DS1821+. Ultimately, in terms of network connectivity, the Synology provides a familiar and standard range of external ports and connections, whereas the QNAP provides a more modern and higher performing selection of connections that nonetheless may not be completely supported by your existing hardware environment. On balance, I think the QNAP TS-873A provides more in this section than the Synology DS1821+
Result – You Should Buy the QNAP TS-873A NAS
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – Performance
The performance of each of the NAS systems can be measured in a few separate ways and, once again, the Synology and QNAP ethos towards internal and external architecture is very, very present here in the DS1821+ and TS-873A. In terms of traditional 1Gbe external performance, these two NAS systems are near enough identical, as both have both the general internal architecture to push through 100MB/s+ with ease. Though it should be highlighted that although both systems have the internal drive space of 8 Drives in a RAID to saturate their respective 1Gbe and 2.5Gbe connections with a supported switch via Link Aggregation, the QNAP provides a better single cable connection overall. With the use of sufficient drive media and the combining of all available network connections in link aggregation, the Synology DS1821+ will max out at 400MB/s+ with 4 ports, whereas the QNAP will provide 500MB/s+ with 2 ports.
Things are quite different in terms of 10Gbe support however. Neither system arrives with a dedicated 10Gbe port and requires the installation of a 10Gbe network upgrade card. As these are 8-bay NAS systems, there is not quite the throughout to justifying a 2x 20 Port setup, but over 1x 10Gbe, the Synology DS1821+ NAS seemingly provides a solid 1000MB/s over both Read and Write, thanks to that PCIe Gen 3 x8 support. The QNAP TS-873A arrives with a solid 10Gbe performance also that will like in the 1000MB/s in both read and write too, however, the winning factor once again is that the QNAP also can reach 500MB/s read and write WITHOUT a 10Gb upgrade, thanks to those 2x 2.5Gbe ports.
Memory utilisation between the two systems is noticeably different too, as the TS-873A features the resource-hungry ZFS platform and its impact on memory consumption. That said, the QNAP arrives with twice the memory by default at 8GB and although this is not ECC class memory, that will not inhibit performance internally. If you are going to rely on third-party software and the NAS as a target to drive for your in-house software, the QNAP is the better for internal performance (the same goes for throughout on btrfs vs ZFS). However, if you are purchasing the NAS system for its performance in its own first-party applications, the Synology DS1821+ will be the more desirable and long-term choice. Of course, you will need sufficient external network hardware in your home/office environment to take advantage of 10G, 2.5G or link aggregation at all, but ultimately it means that in a base level 1Gbe setup, things are pretty even and in a perfect setup, the QNAP TS-873A will win overall in performance externally.
Result – You Should Buy the QNAP TS-873A NAS
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – STORAGE
This is probably the biggest and clearest distinction between these two devices and Synology and QNAP have clearly drawn a line in the sand with what they are prepared to offer at this £850-950 price tag. Both systems allow the installation of hard drive and solid-state drive media, as well as supporting expansion devices that allow you to add further storage to your system storage pool. But the media types supported, range of performance and extend to which you can use that storage is wildly different comparing these two devices. The Synology DS1821+ provides 8 SATA hard drive bays that can also support 2.5 inch SATA SSD. This main storage area allows you to create any one of a range of traditional RAID configurations, as well as their own fluid proprietary configuration known as Synology Hybrid RAID (SHR). The core system utilizes btrfs as the de facto file system and although you can switch the system to ext4, a number of key Synology applications demand btrfs running. Btrfs presents a number of unique benefits to the system that includes file self-healing, faster-shared folder duplication and reduced impact made on the system resources when generating snapshots, allowing a greater number of snapshots of your storage to revert to, as well as less system slow down when they are created. As mentioned, you can attach expansion devices and the DS1821+ allows the connection of two eSATA expansion devices that are JBOD and cost around £300 to £400 each. Finally, you find internally the two m.2 NVMe SSD bays that allow you to install M2 superfast PCIe 3×4 SSD and utilise their fast performance, high IOPs and low latency towards the main RAID storage array with a sophisticated NAS storage intelligent caching. Synology has been improving their internal caching system for a number of years and has reached the point where the bulk of their new generation hardware all include NVMe M.2 SSD bays to improve that internal slower but larger and more affordable hard drive array on their systems. Unfortunately, Synology does not allow these NVMe bays to be used for raw storage pools and those of you that wanted to use this super-fast storage in conjunction with perhaps a 10Gbe upgrade card will be left disappointed. There is a huge amount of storage potential here and the benefits of upgrading the performance with NVMe are desirable, if optional. And let’s not forget about Synology hybrid RAID and the benefits that it brings to a more scaled approach to populating your NAS over the years.
Unlike Synology and btrfs, QNAP has provided TS-873A with the ZFS (Zettabyte file system) version of their software, QuTS hero. ZFS presents a number of huge improvements to that of ext4 and is considerably more industry-supported at the enterprise level than btrfs, which is seen to still be a little young by comparison. Benefits of ZFS include considerably faster performance, RAID building and RAID rebuilding thanks to the filesystem removing the volume layer in its architecture and allowing data to be directly written to the storage pool. There are also many real-time file benefits with inline data compression and inline deduplication across the whole file and folder structure, though remember you will need 16GB to take advantage of deduplication. Many of these benefits of inline file transmission are promised in updates to DSM 7.0 (currently in beta) but seem to be more app-specific to Synology Drive and less about the system as a whole.
There is no fluid RAID system comparable to SHR but you do have all of the traditional RAID configurations, as well as RAIDZ and triple parity options that allow up to 3 disks of disaster redundancy. Expansions on the QNAP TS-873A are connected via the available USB port which although on the face of it does not sound as fast as eSATA on the Synology, thanks to a range of USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gb/s) JBOD and SoC RAID expansions in the TR and TL series, it means that expandability is technically larger, and faster thanks to the majority of their NAS expansions featuring hardware RAID. Overall, in terms of storage, you will be unsurprised to hear that I choose the QNAP TS-873A over the Synology DS1821+. There is just a larger degree of flexibility available both in terms of hardware and the filesystem on offer. You cannot fault these Synology Hybrid RAID and I wish Synology would let users access those M.2 NVMe bays as a storage pool, but the DS1821+ is still a good NAS for storage. It just does not bring the larger degree of fluidity and media support available in the TS-873A currently.
Result – The QNAP TS-873A – Both Have Similar Day 1 Storage, but the QNAP has better long term storage options
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – PRICE
Regardless of whether you are buying the DS1821+ or TS-873A for home or business use, the matter of price will always play some part in your decision. Once again, it has to be noted that the Synology has been available to buy for several months longer than the QNAP, which has given the DS1821+ enough time to develop slightly more flexible pricing. That said, even at launch, the Synology DS1821+ still arrived at around $100-140 less than the QNAP TS-873A did when revealed. Of
SYNOLOGY DS1821+ NAS Drive
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QNAP TS-873A NAS Drive
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course, this price difference can still be reflected in the greater network connections (2.5G over 1G), ZFS and 50% more available memory in the base model of the TS-873A. Therefore this becomes less about price and more about value, to see which one gives you the most for your money. In terms of value, I think the QNAP brings you a more noticeable degree of hardware for your money over software development, where is Synology has directed more of that into the impressive software of the SMB, arguable playing a tad safe on the hardware.
Result – IT’S A TIE! The QNAP for Long Term Value, Synology for Software vs Hardware Balanced Value & Price
Synology DS1821+ vs QNAP TS-873A NAS – CONCLUSION
Despite the fact that the Synology DS1821+ and QNAP TS-873A were released 3 to 4 months apart, they really do bring a different hardware focus to the end-user. The Synology DS1821+ brings a sense of simplicity, ease and familiarity in their solution, with a big focus on keeping things both user-friendly and highly functional. It does this with a greater focus on first-party software and hardware decisions that may not be for everyone. In contrast, the QNAP brings more innovation, scalability and upgradability in their systems life, whilst allowing their focus to be a tad more balanced towards third-party and first-party 50/50 utilisation. However, this can all too often lead to confusion or less focused/intuitive software design than that found in the Synology platform. So, ultimately it comes down to whether you want to use your own pre-existing third-party services or want a solution that delivers a complete hardware + software solution in 2021
Best NAS for Plex Media Server = Synology DS1821+ NAS
Best NAS for Surveillance = Synology DS1821+ NAS
Best NAS for Virtual Machines = QNAP TS-873A NAS
Best NAS for Photographers = Synology DS1821+ NAS
Best NAS for Video Editors = QNAP TS-873A NAS
Best NAS for Business = QNAP TS-873A NAS
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Your channel is as close to perfection as one can get. Every single video is deliberate and immensely useful. Never a miss.
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Having used computers for thirty years, I have never noticed an issue where I have lost data due to an error. The risk of significant loss of data due to using non-ECC memory must be very, very small: close to zero.
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Quick question. Can you expand RAID configurations across extensions with both TL and TR units? I suppose this is highly discouraged because if one NAS unit fails, the whole raid goes to shit but I’m just curious if it can be done and how would it perform. Are there any videos on your channel on this topic?
I suppose that if you connect both units to the same UPS, it should not be a problem, right?
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Thank you for in-detail info. looking forward to your next videos.
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I had problem about my synology nas
And Steve Baker
Technical Support Engineer write me about my problem that
We are sorry to hear that your DS218 has to be reset. This is likely caused by an issue in the DSM operating-system.
We understand that you are worried about losing your data. Please rest assured, your data should not be affected by the reset as the OS and data are stored in separate partitions on the drives. When re-installing the OS, the system should normally not touch the data-partitions of your drives.
I beleived and i did what he said now all my data erased omg i shocked after sir Steve Baker dissepeared i am alone there is nothing in my hands
Synology is regret bad nas choose qnap there isnt good support for problemss !!!
There is no good service and support becarefullll!!!
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Asrock AM4 mobos ftw.
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I would like to call out Vodafone supplying their THG3000 router for their 500 mbit internet service …. This router was designed for superfast ie 87mbit internet and so the LAN ports all limited to just 100 Mbit. They haven’t even got full gigabit on the router yet and try and con an extra £240 out of customers for any enhanced router with the 500 pro package. Make no mistake. This is the definition of racketeering. TP Link ax3000 router costs just £70 and upgrades the wifi
Also EE selling a 1.6 Gbit Internet package however they have broken the cardinal rule of making sure that the upload is 1/8 of the download speed which means if you buy this package you are going to face an overhead bottleneck if you are using heavy downloads because the upload speed is only limiting the maximum download speed 880 assuming standard tcpHTTP protocols. UDP usage will limit the amount of return packets and may provide extra overheads for other users. I would seriously like a popular YouTuber to do a video on this.
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Ryzen 9 7950X supports ECC RAM.
Also, some consumer motherboards, like the ASRock X670E Taichi mention the support for ECC & non-ECC DIMMs.
Will a combo like that work with ECC RAM 100%?
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I’m a software developer. I have tens of thousands of lines of codes stored on my computers, some of the code being decades old. A flipped bit in any of those text files would likely manifest as a syntax error when I compiled the source code. In all those years and all those lines of code I have not once experiences such a syntax error from a flipped bit. I think the problem is overblown for the typical user. For a corporation that keeps a giant multi-terabyte database in memory for months on end maybe it could be an issue.
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“it has no advantages for home users”
Enter AI personal assistants with home nas backup. ????
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Old video, but I’ve got a question (noob here). Can the TL-D800C be used as a simple hard drive enclosure as-is? As-in, slot in 8 drives in it then plug the USB cable onto a Windows 10 PC and the PC would detect those drives like external/internal hard drives?
Asking because I’ve been looking for a mass storage solution but would just like it to be simple via USB and where I can just add drives when it gets full. I don’t really want to go through all the trouble of setting up RAID setups or network arrays as it’s mostly for personal use anyway, but I have a lot of stuff (mainly backups of my games and media), and I would like to reduce my external HDD clutter.
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Wonderfull video, learned a lot
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I tired a Kingston 8GB KCP426SS6/8 it didn’t work, after googling seems other people with with a synnology nas it didn’t work but the 4GB variant did
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Any system with long uptimes should be using ECC, almost without regard for the system size (An exception at the microcontroller level, but they use a different kind of memory cell anyway). The longer the uptime the more chance for errors to propagate through the calculations. All modern 64bit machines are large machines, 1GB of memory is substantial in regard to bit flip error rates. A corrupted pixel in a video is inconsequential but if the corrupted bit is within a CPU instruction, a starting constant in a long calculation, or part of some compressed data then the effect can have a chain reaction.
eg. JPG images are very sensitive, due to the high level of compression one bit flip can destroy the color over half or more of the photograph. (While an uncompressed bitmap would only slightly scew one pixel, at the cost of 10 times the data so maybe a few scewed pixels.)
Yes the 10% cost may appear huge at exascale but consider the impact of error uncertainty when a single computation set uses weeks of machine time and $100k just in electricity cost.
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If the EU can legally force Apple to switch to USB-C. Why can’t we force manufacturers to make ecc a legal standard?
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The Asustor AS6704T NAS that I use has the Intel N5105 which doesn’t support ECC.
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Can I install ecc 2666mhtz 8gb ram on my ds920+?
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3:30 also literal cosmic rays. It’s nuts.
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Such an awesome video, your attention to detail and explanations are fabulous. I found this test so helpful. Excellent, and thank you.
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I would highly advise that you NEVER use r/w caching. Stick to read only. Even in a Raid 1 config there is a high probability that you lose your volume if as SSD goes down.
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ECC is not an acronym, but an initialism. If it were an acronym, we would be pronouncing it as ‘eck’ , not ‘eee cee cee’ ????
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Copying same file directory with same files inside has an automatic caching of them, not mentioned in the test. Good test to see how things work, but again, inherent caching effects built into the system must have been used, or the software is not too great at cache control.
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Can you get the JBOD expansion unit and format it with RAID0 in macOS? Or is it locked to JBOD?
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why are all nas UIs so horrendously awful? there should be a modern website interface for basic functions. all this admin nonsense is only needed once in a millennium
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Couldn’t you map a shared folder to a drive letter, then run something like Crystal Disk Mark on the mapped drive?
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Is the controller Sata 3 or 6?
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The data itself is on an HDD from the beginning. Seems you are testing the read limits of your HDD, thats all. I’m copying 12GB of data to an NVMe storage in less than 1 minute, and thats with USB3.0. With thunderbolt it’s only a few seconds. The limiting factor is then your connection speed like 1GBE or 10GBE. Copying internally without any connection should do the best out of it, but your limit is the reading speed of your HDD, where the data is stored.
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Gen3 or gen4 NVME? Does it matter? Thanks!
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….Should i buy 2x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB, M.2 (MZ-V7S250BW) …for a DS920+ ??? …many people say if the „Wear_Levelling_Count“ (Samsung Life Span Figure) is reached they (Synology) shut it off. And many people say it only last about 2 years!
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Really wish your videos had time stamps, intro/abstract and conclusion section. Great videos but its hard to deicde whether they are worth watching in full
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I beleiev that cache is more important in applications such as VM’s or docker .. mainly applications which repeat a lot like running mqtt for a vast automation … where the same data will go back and forth on a daily basis .. that’s where the cache would excel ..
I also believe that you don’t need the nvme for cache as SATA/sata nand will suffice … Unless you have 10gbit network which requires 1gb to be transfered in ms which is not for home applications anyhow ..
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My eyes hurt watching this!
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Thanks for the detailed comparisons!
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Secondly is the data encrypted in the NVMEs or exposed?
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Imposible to read….bad video.
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Great videos, thanks. It would be interesting to see the difference of spending money on the 4gb RAM upgrade instead of NVME in terms of file server performance (ignoring Docker benefits).
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