Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Which Should You Buy?

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1 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS Comparison
2 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Internal Hardware
3 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Storage Options
4 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Ports and Connections
5 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Software Performance
6 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Plex Media Server
7 The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Conclusion
8 Need More Help Choosing the right NAS?
9 Need Advice on Data Storage from an Expert?

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS Comparison

Note – Our Synology DS923+ NAS Review is now live and you can find it HERE

I think we can all agree that in the world of network-attached storage (NAS), one of the best brands out there for software and services is Synology. In the last few years, we have seen this brand catapult its DSM platform into an incredibly user-friendly, powerful, safe and capable tool that is accessible to home and business users alike. Very few Synology NAS systems have been as popular as the Summer 2020 released DS920+ NAS, a 4-Bay desktop system that served as a fantastic middle ground for all users and largely considered the ‘go to’ Diskstation system for prosumers and small businesses. However, that was released 2.5 years ago now and in that time, alot has changed. Users have bigger demands, want things much faster, better connectivity and Synology are responding to this with the release of the DS923+, the followup/refresh of the Synology DS920+. In that two and a half years, some things have stayed the same, but a whole bunch of things have changed and many users are wondering whether they should buy the Synology DS920+ (regularly on sale – check on our deals page here) or go for the newer Synology DS923+ NAS. So, today I am going to compare them in a bunch of ways, Hardware, Storage Options, Ports, DSM Support and even Plex, just to see how they stack up against one another. Note, I am not going to compare them in price (but I will in value later), as comparing the price of two devices around 2.5yrs difference in release and availability isn’t particularly fair. Lets get started.

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Internal Hardware

Let’s face it, THIS is one of the biggest and earliest reasons that many users have been comparing the DS920+ and DS923+, as Synology surprised all of us with it’s choice of internal hardware in their latest diskstation release. To give you a little bit of history, Synology has always (for at least a decade or so) presented the plus series of 2-Bay and 4-Bay solutions with an Intel x86 processor with integrated graphics on board (i.e an extra component that is designed to be better suited to graphical data tasks, rather than use the normal/typical power of the processor as a whole. Indeed, the Synology DS920+ NAS arrives with exactly that, an Intel Celeron J4125 Processor, 4 Cores, 2.0Ghz frequency that can be burst when needed upto 2.7Ghz and on-board Integrated graphics. At the time of release, this was pretty much the ‘main’ Intel Celeron that was in use in the NAS market and provided an excellent middle ground between cost vs power vs efficiency in a NAS (other brands providing the same). So, when discussions of a follow up to the DS920+ were beginning to be raised, many (myself included) assumed it would be another Intel Celeron inside (originally hypothesizing the N5105 or J6412). However, the confirmed CPU inside the DS923+ is the AMD Embedded Ryzen R1600, Dual Core, 2.6Ghz frequency that can be burst when needed to 3.1Ghz. The fact that the AMD R1600 does NOT feature any onboard/integrated graphics is a blow for anyone that is going to be considering the DS923+ over the DS920+ for server side transcoding in Plex Media Server (either by choice or in the case of automatic conversion with HEVC/H.265). Now, before going any further, I need to highlight that the R1600 can DEFINITELY HANDLE 4K IN PLEX (I will cover this more later, but you can watch the video here), so if you are choosing between the DS920+ and DS923+ for use as a native playback media server in 4K and 1080p, the CPU choice here is not an issue and in many ways, the increased horse power will allow more resources to go towards media playback across multiple streams AND other NAS services. Let’s take a closer look at the base internal hardware of the DS923+ and DS920+:

How do the Synology DS920+ and DS923+ NAS Compare in Internal Hardware?
NAS Model

Synology DS923+ NAS

Synology DS920+ NAS
CPU Model AMD Ryzen R1600 Intel Celeron J4125
CPU Architecture 64-bit 64-bit
CPU Frequency 2-core 2.6 (base) / 3.1 (turbo) GHz 4-core 2.0 (base) / 2.7 (burst) GHz
Hardware Encryption Engine (AES-NI) Yes Yes
Memory
System Memory 4GB DDR4 ECC SODIMM 4GB DDR4 non-ECC
Memory Module Pre-installed 4GB x1 Module 4GB X1 SODIMM Module (soldered)
Total Memory Slots 2 1
Maximum Memory Capacity 32GB (16GB+16GB) 8GB (4GB + 4GB)

Ok, so let’s break this down into the advantages that either one provides. The Intel Celeron inside the DS920+ NAS and it’s integrated graphics are definitely going to have their use. Tasks that require more advanced graphical techniques, such as encode, decode, QuickSync-supported tasks, viewing images that can be manipulated in the viewer and running of anything presented in HEVC/H.265 compression are going to benefit from the graphical toolkit present in the J4125 CPU. Also, the power use/efficiency of the Intel Celeron in 24×7 use is going to typically be lower in like-for-like use cases (with a TDP rating of 10W on the Celeron vs 25W on the R1600 – but these represent max usage/non-typical). Finally, the Intel Celeron in the DS920+ is a 4-core processor, double that of the R1600 at 2-core. 4 Cores means that you can spread those dedicated cores to other processes more effectively and present a larger degree of processing power to those tasks. Now, the DS923+ and it’s AMD R1600 does counter all of these points with some impressive strengths of it’s own. For a start, that much higher base and turbo frequency of 2.6Ghz > 3.1Ghz. This means that you have a much more powerful NAS at your disposal to get most other tasks done and if you are not focused on those graphical areas mentioned earlier that the J4125 favours, the R1600 is going to get most other tasks done quicker and/or have more resources to spread out to more users at once.

The fact the DS923+ R1600 CPU is a dual-core is a bit of a kick, but it does make up for this a bit with the fact it is 4 threads, which can be used as virtual CPUs in VMs and spread itself out more efficiently to multiple tasks than spreading cores would – less powerful, but more efficient. The R1600 CPU also opens up Gen 3 PCI lanes internally, allowing greater bandwidth to be afforded to the system’s internal chipset/hardware-services than the PCI Gen 2 lanes in the J4125 DS920+ (Gen2 = 500MB per lane, Gen3 = 1000MB per lane). This is likely how the DS923+ NAS can provide both a 10GbE optional upgrade (covered more later) and the two NVMe SSD slots (likely a higher gen/speed than those in the DS920+). Finally, let’s talk about memory! Both the DS920+ and DS923+ NAS arrive with 4GB of DDR4 memory, but even a casual glance shows quite alot of difference from this point! First off, the DS920+ can only be upgraded to 8GB maximum (CPU Recommended and NAS Recommended), whereas the DS923+ and it’s R1600 can hit 32GB of memory (over two slots, so 2x 16GB SODIMM) – That is ALOT of memory to play with! Additionally, the memory in the DS923+ is 3200Mhz (TBC!) and ECC (Error-correcting Code) memory that takes advantage of an additional on-board component that runs a checksum/parity-bit as data passes through the RAM at the beginning at compares at the end, repairing/healing data that might get corrupted in the write process (very caveman description, but it largely covers it). The memory in the DS920+ is 2666Mhz, non-ECC and 4GB of it is soldered to the board (only 1x upgrade slot). Business users and those running high volume and frequency databases are going to definitely see/want the benefits of that ECC memory, the scalability of it and the particular benefits of that R1600 Processor in the DS923+. The DS920+ is still, overall, the better multimedia choice in terms of the range of supported graphical services available, power consumption 24×7 and at the current value for money (It has been as low as £400-425 previously) it is incredible in 2022/2023, but really the hardware inside the DS923+ is much more business focused (not an accident I am sure).

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Storage Options

So, this is going to be quite a short section! For the most part, the Storage capabilities and options that the DS920+ and DS923+ arrive with are largely identical. Both of them feature four SATA Bays of storage (which can be fully/partially populated), both support the traditional RAID configurations (RAID 0/1/5/6) as well as Synology Hybrid RAID, both support BTRFS and EXT4 file systems, both have m.2 NVMe SSD slots than can be used for 2280 SSDs for caching and both can be expanded by an additional 5-Bays of storage with the DX517. There is very, very little difference between the DS923+ and DS920+ in terms of storage. However…

How do the Synology DS920+ and DS923+ NAS Compare in their Storage Options?
NAS Model Synology DS923+ NAS Synology DS920+ NAS
Drive Bays 4 4
Maximum Drive Bays with Expansion Unit 9 (DX517 x 1) 9 (DX517 x 1)
M.2 Drive Slots 2 (NVMe) 2 (NVMe)

When it comes to Hard Drive compatibility, the compatibility lists of the DS923+ and DS920+ are a little different. The DS920+ features several more compatibility drives (eg the likes of the WD Red 14TB Red Pro or Seagate Ironwolf Pro) that do not appear on R1600-powered 22/23 gene systems like the DS1522+. Now the DS923+ full HDD/SSD compatibility list is still unavailable, but newer generation devices from Synology released in the 2022 series and afterwards have been having an odd habit of not listing many 3rd party drives above 16/18TB (including their own HAT5300 drives and 3rd party Surveillance drives such as WD Purple and Skyhawk, and the enterprise tiered drives). Now, the argument could easily be that testing and certification are not full completed yet, but there is no avoiding that, as it stands, the DS920+ is seemingly compatibilible with more drive types. We have performed ALOT of tests on the DS1522+ (same architecture as the DS923+, but 5 Bays) with WD Red/Gold 18TB, 20TB and 22TB drives and found them to work perfectly, yet they do not feature on the compatibility list, so when you install them in your DSM 7.1 (DSM 7.2 in Q1 2023), you might see a brief alert from your system about using non-compatible drives on your Synology. Again, this is a very small point and every possibility that it will iron out in the messaging from the brand as the DS923+ establishes itself, but it is certainly a point worth highlighting.

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Ports and Connections

The external connectivity of the Synology DS923+ and DS920+ NAS are, at least on day 1, near enough IDENTICAL! Both arrive with two-gigabit ethernet connections (a little disappointing in 2022/2023, but lets move on), two USB 3.2 Gen 1 (5Gb/s) ports for storage and supported accessories and an eSATA port that is used for attaching the official Synology DX517 expansion chassis (mentioned earlier). Now, after that, we can discuss the big, BIG difference between the DS923+ and DS92+ NAS:

How do the Synology DS920+ and DS923+ NAS Compare in their Ports and Connections?
NAS Model Synology DS923+ NAS

Synology DS920+ NAS

RJ-45 1GbE LAN Port 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support) 2 (with Link Aggregation / Failover support)
USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port* 2 2
eSATA Port 1 1
PCIe Expansion 1 x Gen3 x2 network upgrade slot (Optional 10GbE) No
System Fan 92 mm x 92 mm x 2 pcs 92 mm x 92 mm x 2 pcs
Power Supply Unit / Adapter 100 W 100 W

Yes, the Synology DS923+ arrives with the option to upgrade its network connectivity from 1GbE to 10GbE with the Synology E10G22-T1-MINI adapter (arriving at around £129-139 in price). Now, this might be the main tipping point for many users to immediately opt for the Synology DS923+ over the DS920+ NAS. Now, the full saturation of a 10Gb connection on the DS923+ is not going to be easy (maybe with full SSD RAID use, intelligence cache in place all burned in and/or enterprise-level HDDs in place) but even a single modern NAS HDD would be bottlenecked by a single ethernet port on the DS920+ and only barely accessed fully via LAG/Port-trunking with 2x 1GbE. the option for the DS1522+ to add a 10GbE connection in conjunction with that more powerful CPU is going to mean some very good throughput is going to be possible (and with ECC memory to keep on top of data integrity in those high-speed writes too).

Note – You can find my 10GbE, 4x WD Red Pro 22TB Synology Ryzen R1600 NAS (DS1522+) Tests HERE on the Blog and HERE on YouTube, where we were able to hit 1.15GB/s

It would have been nice if the DS923+ NAS had arrived with 10GbE on board (even if it meant increasing the price a bit, many would feel) or greater than gigabit on those default ethernet ports, but there is no avoiding that the DS923+ CLEARLY wins in terms of network connectivity, as it has the exact ports as the DS920+, but allows the scalability up to 10Gb/1,000MB/s bandwidth down the line.

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Software Performance

The performance of Synology DSM services and supported 3rd party connected appliances is going to be very similar on both the DS920+ and DS923+ NAS when it comes to utilizing the respective systems in low volume/frequency client tasks. By that, I mean that the scale of the operations that you need the NAS to action (from simple file sharing and downloading, to more intensive multi-site backups, file streaming, databases and surveillance for example) will largely dictate which NAS will perform better for you. As mentioned, the DS920+ and its embedded graphics-supported CPU will use fewer resources to perform graphically focused tasks such as transcoding, as well as running applications that have a high volume of visual data such as live camera feeds in Surveillance Station 9. Whereas the file handling and general transfer performance of traditional data exchanges are going to use fewer resources on the DS923+ embedded Ryzen processor, as well as have a much, MUCH higher ceiling for total processes thanks to that larger memory scalability already discussed. Below is a breakdown of the most popular applications and services that are included with either the Synology DS920+ or DS923+ NAS:

Synology Office – Create documents, spreadsheets, and slides in a multi-user environment. Real-time synchronization and saving make collaboration a breeze.

Synology Chat – Aimed at businesses, Synology Chat is an IM service that transforms the way users collaborate and communicate.

Synology Drive – Host your own private cloud behind the safety of your NAS with 100% data ownership and no subscription fees.

Synology Moments – Manage your photos and videos with deep-learning algorithms that automatically group photos with similar faces, subjects, and places.

Synology Calendar – Stay on track, share calendars, and schedule meetings, while ensuring sensitive information remains safely stored on company premises.

Synology Active Backup for Business (ABB) – Consolidate backup tasks for virtualized environments, physical servers, and personal computers, and rapidly restore files, entire machines, or VMs – license free.

Synology Hyper Backup – backup you NAS safely and efficiently to multiple destinations with deduplication, integrity checks, compression, and versioning.

Synology Surveillance Station – Safeguard your business, home, and other valuable assets with reliable video surveillance tools.

Synology Virtual Machine Manager (VMM) – An intuitive hypervisor that supports Windows, Linux, and Virtual DSM virtual machines. Its powerful disaster recovery tools help users achieve maximum service uptime.

Synology High Availability – Synology High Availability (SHA) combines two Synology NAS servers into one active-passive high-availability cluster, alleviating service disruptions while mirroring data.

Synology Central Management System (CMS) – Synology CMS allows you to manage multiple Synology NAS servers quickly and conveniently from a single location.

Synology Video Station – Manage all your movies, TV shows, and home videos. Stream them to multiple devices or share them with friends and family.

Synology Photo Station – Built to help photographers manage their photos and share them with clients for feedback or business development.

Synology Audio Station – Manage your music collection, create personal playlists, stream them to your own devices, or share with family or friends.

Synology File Station – Manage your Synology NAS files remotely through web browsers or mobile devices

However, the extent to which you can use all these applications at any single time (both as multiple clients using the same software or multiple applications running in parallel on the same NAS system) is going to be better on the Synology DS923+ in the grand scheme of things, thanks to that potential 32GB of memory available to scale up down the line. Here is how these two Synology NAS drives compare in volume and features in those 1st party services:

Now we have still yet to have the software support and range of users/clients supported by the hardware configuration of the Synology DS923+ NAS drive, HOWEVER, we DO have those of the DS1522+ NAS, which arrives with the same CPU (but 8GB of memory and an additional storage bay). Nevertheless, this should serve as a small indication of the extent to which the DS923+ and DS920+ compare in DSM performance:

Model DS920+ DS1522+
Max Single Volume 108TB 108TB
SAN Manager 128 ISCSI Targets and 256 LUNS 128 ISCSI Targets and 256 LUNS
Surveillance Station 40 Cameras Max, 2 Licenses 40 Cameras Max, 2 Licenses
Collaboration Suite ALL Tools ALL Tools
Synology Drive 350 Connections , 5,000,000 Files 350 Connections , 5,000,000 Files
Active Backup FULL Support (Google, 365, VM,  local) FULL Support (Google, 365, VM, local)
Synology Photos All Features All features
Hybrid Share Full Support of 10x syncs Full Support of 10x syncs
Accounts 2048 Users, 256 Groups, 512 S.Folders 2048 Users, 256 Groups, 512 S.Folders
SHA Yes Yes
VMM Yes, 4 Recommended Max Yes, 8 Recommended Max
Hardware Transcoding Yes No
MailPlus 100 concurrent users, 5 Licences 100 concurrent users, 5 Licences
SHR Support Yes Yes
Snapshots 65,536 Max 65,536 Max
Web Hosting Upto 30x Upto 30x
Hyper Backup Yes, all features and clients Yes, all features and clients
Max Synology  Tested R/W Speed 226.01MB/s – 225.84MB/s 736MBs – 796MB/s

Once again, very similar and indeed, both systems largely provide the building blocks to use each application to the highest extent allowed/recommended by Synology in DSM. Despite these NAS’ having very different CPUs, they still ultimately support the same volume of services (at maximum) in DSM. But the DS923+ clearly has more recourse scaling possible and that will hopefully mean that you will be able to push several applications in higher frequencies each more on the newer system than the old one. Just don’t overlook how useful that Intel Celeron CPU would be to multimedia tasks.

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Plex Media Server

This is going to be a big, BIG question for a number of users – Which is better for Plex Media Server, the older Synology DS920+ or new DS923+ NAS? Now, as mentioned much earlier in this comparison, if you are looking at native playback a handful of streams of H.264 media, without transcoding, in both 4K and 1080p (up to about 60Mb/s bitrate), then you will see almost no difference between these devices unless you stream to large #s of clients, as the embedded graphics hardware on the Intel J4125 CPU will not really see any activity/need. HOWEVER, if you are running complex file formats (mp4a, occ, RAW for example), want on-the-fly transocding to reduce a media files size that you are streaming from a weak connection (commute? on the beach?) and/or you are playing HEVC/H.265 media in 4K/1080p/720p media to client devices that need server-side conversion – THEN the R1600 embedded Ryzen in the DS923+ will definitely hit 100% CPU utilization VERY fast and you will hit a wall very quickly. Now, what is the significance of HEVC/H265 and conversions/transcoding? Well, HEVC/H.265 is a newer and much more effective compression technique for squeezing GIANT MEDIA into smaller file sizes (eg from CINEMA to sofa) and prior to that, the h.264 compression format was still good, but also FREE! However, HEVC/H265 requires a licence and, in the absence of one being included by the manufacturer or purchased by the client hardware user, your HEVC/H265 file will need to be converted to a playable format in order to be streamed – THIS is the hard work that the embedded graphics on the Intel Celeron are GREAT for! Below are two videos from the NASCompares YouTube channel that show a multitude of Plex Media Tests on the DS920+ vs the DS1522+ (same hardware mostly) and how they compared:

4K MEDIA ONLY PLEX NAS TESTS! 720p/1080p/4K PLEX MEDIA SERVER TESTS

Now, there are lots of ways to get around the HEVC/H265 barrier. You can:

  • Use Media Client Hardware for watching your Plex Server Media that is powerful enough to allow ‘client side’ conversions
  • Only Use H.264 Compressed media
  • Use a client hardware device that includes an HEVC/H.265 Licence purchase option

However, if you are running your Plex Media streaming to mobile devices (many of which do not allow client-side hardware conversions) or an Amazon Fire Stick (same again), these will rely quite heavily on the NAS doing the heavy lifting in the event of you needing HEV/H265 content modified. So, although BOTH the DS920+ and DS923+ NAS are going to be good for Plex in native playback, when it comes to media that is going to need some extra horsepower server-side, the DS920+ NAS takes the clear lead here.

The Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Conclusion

There is alot to like in the DS923+ NAS. Optional 10GbE, an awesome 32GB of DDR4 ECC Memory to scale up towards and a CPU with plenty of horsepower to be getting on with (if a pinch more electricity-hungry). When the DS920+ first arrived, it did so to almost universal praise (barring a few concerns at the time about 1GbE) and it has pretty much always been in the top 3 NAS since its launch for most users. Now the full specifications and details of the DS923+ are known, for many more complex and/or non-native media users, it has made the DS920+ is now even more attractive. Synology has clearly taken a rather different tactic in the release of their newest 4-Bay Diskstation, making changes to the expected hardware configuration and architecture that set it on a very different path than its predecessor. If you were already looking at Synology NAS systems that arrive with a heavy emphasis on business use, high frequency/volume transfers and scaling their architecture notably down the line in efforts to remain future-proof, the DS923+ is going to tick ALOT of boxes for you. Whereas if you were looking at a Synology NAS for home use, a Plex Media server, low client/user use and generally as more of a setup-and-forget solution, then the DS920+ will likely suit your needs better and will have the added benefit of a more palatable price point at the end of 2022. The Synology DS923+ NAS has moved this tier of Synology portfolio towards more of a small business footing than the DS920+, which might not please everyone. Keep an eye open for the DS423+ and DS223+ towards the start of next year (as well as the Value series arriving in 1, 2 and 4-Bay with that Realtek RTD1619b), as there is every likelihood that Synology are going to give these much more of a multimedia/home spotlight, now that the DS923+ has shifted it’s gears to a higher audience somewhat.

NAS MODEL ID

Synology DS923+ NAS

Synology DS920+ NAS


 

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      228 thoughts on “Synology DS923+ vs DS920+ NAS – Which Should You Buy?”

      5. Love the video as always. I’m so happy I bought the 920 instead of waiting for the 923. I stream video from my phone frequently so I utilize the transcoding frequently and I love that the 920 handles it with ease.
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      6. Seems like these comparisons are moot if you just connect any NAS to a Zidoo media player such as the Z9x or Z2000pro to pull the content from your NAS. Those will play anything smoothly, everytime.
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      7. I have bought a DS1522+ a week ago. I was struggling with external discs breaking down one after another. Even a 5 week old 8 Tb barracuda drive. ????

        98 percent what i have is 1080p. That is doing fine. But it is struggling with 4k. A DS1621xs was just to expensive.
        I hate it that Synolgy on purpose choose to use these CPU’s. They are doing that deliberate. So you have to step up bigtime. Actually with a CPU and a build in GPU a lot of people would not buy their expensive Nas line. Synoly could have used a slightly more expensive CPU with build in GPU. And that would have cost us around 50 dollar more. But we all would have done that gladly. And it is really a stupid move from from Synology because a lot of people will be looking at Qnap because of that. So in the end it will cost them money.
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      9. OMG what is up with you people discounting this because it doesn’t provide enough gpu transcoding for you, therefore it’s a loser? I had a 220+ which was fine and now the 1522+ and it’s awesome. Plays all my 4K videos perfectly and as well or better than my previous. What is this obsession with transcoding videos when you’re buying a $1000 NAS that does so much more and the new processor does cartwheels around the previous Celeron on the 220+. I mean how many people are watching fricken videos on their phone and flipping out if it buffers? I tested and it works just as well as the 220+ for my needs, no buffering or stuttering and remote play just as seamless. So are there seriously tens of thousands of people using their NAS to share their library and expecting 10 for more simultaneous transcoding streams to all their kids or friends or…. customers? it’s lunacy to see all the complaints about this one feature not being optimized with their choice of a new CPU which frankly is so much faster and efficient on every other task I use my NAS for like video and photo editing on the fly, backing up and accessing Synologydrive, music streaming and everything else. And no problem playing and I guess transcoding a stream when needed. So just STFU with all the negative whiners who seem to have no life but watching multiple streams on multiple phones at any given time, therefore this is a crappy NAS? Give us a break and get a life. It’s an awesome product.
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      12. The DS923+ with the 10Gbe upgrade is a DS1621+ with $50 10Gbe PCI-E card in price. No way its a good deal.

        If they made the 10Gbe card around $80-100, it would make sense. But its $240 CAD, they are OUT OF THEIR F%CKING MINDS at Synology.
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      13. Can plex pass play the drm movies downloaded from Apple? I have quite a few movies that i bought the blu ray disc and it came with a digital copy which I redeemed the code through iTunes and nothing I’ve found will play it except of course streaming from my nas to iTunes. I can’t even stream it to my iPhone. Of course I know I can just stream it from apple on my iPhone, but the point is I want to be able to stream my own content that I own on my NAS. Thanks.
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      14. So glad I got the 920+ for my home/office. I stream lots of video over it, often over my phone on cell data while we’re traveling. Love that I’ve been streaming on 5 devices at a time and the 920+ handles it. Granted they’re all 720p and 1080p, but that’s still impressive doing multiple at a time and the processor is barely working.
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      15. Completely agree with your colleague (Eddy). I have a DS-918+ and have been looking to buy a second device.
        However I am not buying a DS-923+ due to the lack of integrated GPU, and 10GbE doesn’t appeal to me as I can’t take advantage of it at home (not cost-effective to upgrade my home network devices to 10GbE).
        Unfortunately there seems to be no other comparable option from Synology available at the moment, and any old-stock DS-920+ (and even DS-918+ which I’d still buy) is going for thousands of dollars. ????
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      16. Hello, I’m choosing between these two for mostly PLEX and CCTV (6 x 8mp cameras recording / reviewing) – does GPU vital for my activities or I can go to 923+ without worrying about these main activities?
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      17. i feel like 923+ is actually a downgrade, that 2019 intel processor is still more powerful than this amd r1600. also no hardware video decoding….923+ users will be forced to use synology proprietary hardware………..i will hold on to my 920+ without any chance to upgrade at least until sinology REALLY offers a worthy upgrade!
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      18. I need a simple answer, i’m a video editor and i’m going to use this as mainly archieval purposes. But in some cases i may edit videos on it too. Which one would you recommend me?
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      19. Coming from a DS216J either of these two units will be a welcome upgrade. But even as a “home user”, I find that 10Gb network port compelling. I have plans on upgrading my switch to 10Gb to accommodate the 2.5Gb ports on my next pc upgrades later this year. I work from home now and remote access and speed of file transfers is just one of the needs. I do not use Plex, I use Synology Video Station for my home videos. My pc’s do all the transcoding I need. Last year I upgraded my PFSense router from the old dual core celeron to a old AMD E315 dual core APU. It uses DDR3 and I have 4GB ram. It uses 10W more than the celeron (35w vs.25w) but it never gets saturated with multiple streams downloading. I want to use more of the apps available on the NAS but that DS216J at 1ghz and with 512MB just won’t do. It is mostly a file and backup location. I need more HD space and trying to decide between another 2 bay or just get the 4 bay with 10Gb nic and call it a day. Still trying to decide if I need the NVME slots for storage or just use for caching to increase file transfer speeds. What do you guys think?
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      22. I have a DS1522+ coming but not the disks (will buy 20TB’ish as I can afford them 🙂 but can I just toss in some dumb old single drive just to get in and play around till the remaining drives get here (i have not made my mind what I want yet).
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      23. who is in this days playing videos from this… i mean i also have some there but how often do i watch something..? so defenetly the 923… but my 916+ will be enough for the few files the 5 users passing around..
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      25. Sorry but to me the older DS920+ beats the newer DS923+ hands down. You belittled HEVC (a.k.a. h.265), but that is the format used in most high-end surveillance cameras these days. We are a commercial dairy goat farm, and we have a good number of PTZ video dome cameras in all our stalls to monitor our livestock when they are in labor (goats often need assistance when giving birth). Not having built-in video processing is a deal-breaker for us, so the DS923+ would be an expensive step backward for us.

        I really like the excellent information that you provide on your channel, but I must confess that in this particular video I was rather turned off by your emotional and seemingly biased approach toward the AMD processor.
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      27. Just realized this is the answer of a question I posted some minutes ago on another video. You already have a video for it. Thank you so much! Seems like I need to wait some more years. Encoding/Decoding on the 1522+ is a bummer in addition to its slow built-in LAN ports. And I won’t by a 2,5 years old NAS. I want a long phase of support by the vendor.
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      28. I guess I bought the DS1522+ “Etzel” of NAS’s when it comes to Plex. However when I add media to my Plex library, I transcode it for the devices we broadcast to prior to adding. I did that so that my computer would not have to transcode everything on the fly. I don’t really think this will affect me much unless we become enamored with 4K media – that has not by any means caught-up with 1080P in content availability.
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      29. My dude, another spot on video – can guarantee you have helped more than one person make an informed decision.

        I have been holding and holding with my 214play (bleh) to see what XXX23 brings and it looks like XXX20+ is still the answer for the prosumer/transcode user.

        Perfect level of information and impartiality (I’d call the new releases a hot steaming pile, but that’s just for my use case) – lets hope they’re not gearing up for a quad core DS923+Play++GOTYE+Platinum+++++ with an onboard graphics!
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      31. Hu guys, Your comparison is exactly what I was looking for ????. Many thanks! As I am a private user I tend to decide for the DS920+ because the DS923+ seems to be more geared towards enterprise use. I guess I won’t feel any performance disadvantage of the Celeron vs. the Ryzen processor but I might feel the difference in power consumption.

        Interestingly, the price development for the two servers is somehow counter-intuitive. While the DS923+ is already available for € 610 in Germany (coming from € 620), the price for the DS920+ has gone up from € 922 to € 947 within the last days. So the price difference is only € 63. Although I could afford this little difference I am still inclined to go for the old model.

        What are your thoughts?
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      35. the 920+ has some stuttering during playback. it wil just freeze for a tenth of a second during playback (like the spiderman-scene at 8:40 when they’re talking, 8:49 with the large screen, at 9:00 during the fade-in). That would be unplayable for me because it’s very noticable and annoying. Could it be that the settings were wrong for playback in plex? That it’s playing back in 24p instead of 23,997p and that’s why you get stuttering?
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      41. Great video ????
        Was wondering if you have a link for that video trailer which you showed last? I believe it was a Hevc 4k
        60mb/s ?
        Would like to DL it and try some tests on my end !
        Cheers
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      42. Need Help!
        My turn finally to buy a NAS and money isn’t an issue.
        I edit 4k multi cam vids all day long and need to work off a NAS that has caching etc. I will need raid to back up work just in case of storage failures. My vid and clips and data are at the moment at around 15T so want a system that can handle that, back it up, and extract the data whenever I need with fast speed.

        Again I want the best, something that will last years and not something that will be outdated any time soon.

        Speed is the key for me though.

        Thanks
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      44. *Intel Celeron J4125* : _Release Date Q4 2019,_ 4-Core CPU with Integrated Graphics (Synology 2020 NASes)
        *AMD R1600* : _Release Date Q2 2019,_ 2-Core CPU with no Integrated Graphics (Synology 2023 NASes) Progress ? ????????????
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      46. Far more important than the CPU is the lack of 2.5Gbe. This model is DoA due to Synologys failed obsession with 1Gbe speeds. I’ll be sticking with my Asustor with superior speeds until Synology pulls their thumb out and gets with the program.
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      49. Thanks for the great content. I’m buying a NAS, and I want Synology. I’m torn between 920+ and 923+. I dont need 4k transcoding but will the 923 keep up with regular 1080p video? And with NVR? Can I see the video from my IP cameras? There is a mention in your video to AI in photos, does it need GPU? 10 Gbe support is not essencial to me, I would choose the 920+, but I’m afraid that the support for some DSM features will end 2 years before? Kind Regards
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      50. I am looking at getting a new Synology NAS to replace the current one I have. It’s going to be in a home environment where media is high priority and data storage/sharing is 2nd. Seeing that the new NAS supports more than 8GB RAM is something I like, I am torn by not having the video transcoding of the DS920+ for more memory. What are you thoughts?
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      51. Love seeing strong, well thought out, opposing opinions. So much better than watching two people sit there and agree with each other.

        I want the best of both worlds. Is there a Synology with integrated graphics that supports 10Gbe?
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      54. I have DS920+ Plex server over 60TeraBytes videos. Works great….until you want 4K movies with subtitles and things start to break down as the server tries to transcode. The DS920+ just can not handle what is asked of it if it has to do transcoding. As more and more 4K videos are available, it would be nice to have the CPU power to do the work. If you can live without subtitles and just watch the 4K stream, 4K really makes a difference in quality of movie. One Gig ethernet vs 10 Gig ethernet really does not matter in homes since most homes can not get 1 Gig Internet…yet. Most things stream well over Internet from my server like when on vacation or allowing friends to stream off my server…..just not 4K.
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      56. Didnt get any reaponse under previous video so posting it also here:) If I am fine with paying bit more I might as well not wait for ds923+ and just buy ds1522+? I understand that ds923+ will be less powerful version of ds1522+, right?
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      57. I am running out of space in my ds918+, so would it be worth getting the ds923+ and stuffing 4x8TB in it AND keeping my ds918, or get a dx517 with 8TB drives? Any news on the dx517 replacement? I don’t really need an extra NAS tbh, so I think I’ve answered my own question.
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      59. I have a query, hope you can help. I have a 4 bay nas 412+ with only 2 HDD in it with SHR raid type and DSM 6.

        As there are only 2 HDD here, can I upgrade to 2 bay nas and put these 2 HDD there without loosing my data. Will it work. If it works, I will buy a new 2 bay nas, probably 720+. Will appreciate your response. Please advise.
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      62. Picked up a DS920+ downunder here for 420 AUD (235 GBP) 3 weeks ago, setup and running next day = Bargain. Running without any issues after going from a DS218 to the DS920+. So easy to upgrade, Synology makes it so easy !!
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      63. Have a 920+ and mainly use it for Plex server. Maybe not just HEVC but there are other things which trigger transcoding. On a Roku client, the PGS subtitles trigger transcoding. It made me move to FireTV Max sticks instead of Roku. Ultimately, a Shield PRO is required for clients if you want it all. (FireTV does not support DTS and a lot of older BluRay have DTS only). Happy with my 920+ overall (the small amount of BluRay with DTS only aside).
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      66. I can ask you a special favor, can you tell me how good are the NAS ASUSTOR and TERRA MASTER brands?
        Which is better for companies?
        Thank you very much for your help.
        Your videos are excellent. They help me a lot in my work.
        Greetings from Quito
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      68. According to Synology; SMB multichannel will be a part of DSM 7.2. When/if this happens then even the older units like DS918+, DS920+, DS718+, DS720+, DS1520+ etc. will be much more useful by double or higher network speed. 1Gbit LAN speeds, which is the limit now, is really the biggest downside for these older units.
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      70. According to benchmarks, the single core performance of the 4125 is only marginally less than the R1600. However the multicore performance is around double in the Celeron’s favor. I’m having a hard time seeing how you can claim the AMD chip is better in DSM, let alone at multitasking.
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      75. I think too much of the video is about hardware specs. In the end there’s only one thing that matters and that is what you want to do with your NAS and if you can. So far I haven’t heard a single convincing argument to upgrade to the DS923+.
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      77. I’ll be buying whatever is more affordable And supports non synology drives.

        I deploy many of these and the 220+s for Active backup.

        The CPU isn’t ever a limit on this task.

        The only bottle neck I find is disk IO
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      78. what irks me with the 923+
        1. it doees not have 2.5g (yes 10g expansion is great but 2.5g is the baseline in my book for even a 2bay these days).
        2. dsm still does not allow the nvme bays to be used for anything but cache. it should be an optional extra drive pair ideal for fast access to tons of tiny files, something that nvme is absolute top at.

        2 can be remedied in software if synology so chooses. 1 however is fixed and as such the higher price is a show stopper for me. i do not care for the integrated graphics but if you want me to shell out more coin for the new rig, you need to provide a well rounded system and with the network ports from yesterdecade synology utterly dropped the ball in my book.
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      80. As it sits, without the 10Gbe upgrade, the 923 has nothing to offer for the increased price. Adding the cost of the 10Gbe upgrade makes it too expensive for what you’re getting and you’d be better off looking at QNAP or something else.
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      81. Thanks for the great content. I am thinking of buying a NAS system and this channel has been very informative. One concern I have regarding the 920+ is future support. I understand that it is compatible with DSM 7 but at what point do you think that Synology will come up with a newer software version that does not run on the 920+?
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      82. I don’t think transcoding is a big deal,
        HEVC is quite widespread, and 1080p video rarely goes beyond about 15Mbit, which hopefully NAS users have as upload speeds by now,
        optional 10Gbe is perhaps a bit hit or miss, slower drives won’t saturate it, small files still transfer much slower, and all-SSD 4-bay NAS is not justifiable yet,
        I’m waiting for 8-bay successor to DS1821+, if Synology makes it right, I’ll buy it 🙂
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      83. Well i got a brand new DS920+ sat on my desk just chucked 4x4tb wd red pro drives in ready to venture into the world of nas .
        Not sure if i should wait for the 2 x 500gb m.2 s to arrive tomorw an the 4gb extra memory. or crack on now an fit them tomrw.
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      85. For me Synology is dead (it’s dead Jim 🙂 ). The QNAP 4 bay nas solutions entirely overshadow Synology at this point. The integrity of their product tiers to offer what each tier may want, is clearly correct. Synology killed a really great prosumer product tier at the expense of driving bottom line. So for me neither the 923 or 920 make any sense to purchase at this point (That is why I purchased a TS-453E, which I’m extremely happy I did)… They should have just created a new cheap business user tier for this stale junk they are peddling… And then make the 923 more like the 464 or 453E where it belongs.
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      91. Have you cheked out this mini itx, 6 sata ports, 2 nvme and 2.5 gig N6005 motherboard?, perfect for truenas with a pico PSU… available on Ali… NAS Motherboard N5105/N6005 4x Intel i226-V 2.5G Nics Dual M.2 NVMe Six SATA3.0 2*DDR4 HDMI2.0 DP Mini ITX 17x17CM
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      96. People love trying to cram as many apps on their NASs as possible, and that usually ends up being the problem. Setting up a Plex server on an old PC that has a GPU can be a much better option. You can still keep all the files on the NAS. Either that or transcode everything into a codec that works on your NAS. Handbrake can batch convert stuff, and works with a large percentage of GPUs for doing things like this.
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      102. So, if I’m not wrong if I would watch a 4K HEVC HDR 10bit 60 mbps movie (a BD-REMUX) I should buy the DS920+ right? There is something you are constantly repeating: a client hardware support, what is that???
        If I have a LG C2 OLED TV an Apple TV 4K connected on it and a DS920+, will I have a good experience watching movies on 4K HEVC???? Cause I don’t know if I should wait until DS923 releases, what do you recommend me?
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      105. Thanks for your videos @NASCompares 😀 They have been helping a lot, especially your DS1522+ coverage! By the way, during DS1522+ manual download for Plex, after clicking Synology (DSM 7), which package should I choose?
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      106. Let’s be honest, unless you have the need for server specific features such as transcoding or watch history sync across devices or other shenanigans, you’re going to have a hugely better responsiveness/playback experience on a dedicated device such as Apple TV, or other beefy SBC running Infuse, Kodi or the like. And they can stream at pretty much all resolution/bitrate/codec from any potato or even the lowest tier Synology NAS 😉
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      108. You didn’t cover my standard usecase. I have 4k files on server, but on device I watch 1080p or 720p due to bandwidth.
        If I understood correctly in case of transcoding new Synology NASes absolutely unusable for two or more users simultaneously
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      111. TLDW; Direct Play works fine on any relatively modern CPU architecture, and the slight increase in raw CPU computing power in Ryzen makes no real world difference when playing media in their original format compared to Celeron from a few years back. But the 1522+ is hot garbage anytime you need to transcode. If you ever need to stream outside your own network when traveling, or sharing with friends, or with client hardware that doesn’t support some of your media files, then the 1522+ is functionally useless for you and will be a giant headache to manage.

        I don’t know why you had to sugar coat it with trying to think up cases where the 1522+ would be “good” for Plex – in the real world, you’re going to have to spend an inordinate amount of time checking your media formats to make it work when you just want to watch a movie on your NAS. That’s a terrible user experience compared to the 920+, which “just works” for Plex.
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      113. Just the comparison I’ve been looking for! Probably masochistic as I already bought the 920+
        …Love how that every time I watch one of your videos there are more hardware and boxes in your office. Waiting for the video ‘coming to you from behind the Synology boxes’
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      114. Thanks for doing this video. Could you try doing the test with a Plex client on a 4k Smart TV or 4k capable dongle? I’m not sure if its true anymore that most of the devices people own don’t support HEVC. Apple’s supported it on their devices for years now. So has LG. I’ve used the Plex clients on both an appleTV 4k and a bottom of the line LG 4k SmartTV from 2016 devices to watch 4k HEVC movies streamed from a DS116 without so much as a hiccup and without plex pass. I may not be in the majority but I’m pretty sure I’m not that much of an outlier.
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      115. I have learnt the hard way to stick with Intel CPUs for hardware transcoding. AMD has consistently dropped the ball on video hardware accelerated transcoding compared to Intel CPUs and NVIDIA GPUs. A real shame. I always look for Intel CPUs to meet my hardware accelerated transcoding needs.
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      116. I was hoping to upgrade my 718+ to a 4 bay NAS. Looks like it won’t be the 923+ if that does launch with the same processor as expected. The lack of native 10Gb ethernet, together with the price of the optional port, is disappointing too.
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      117. Very, very informative! I was on the fence between these two NAS and almost bought 1522+ but due to this video I decided not to.This video provided me the key and vital information which basically made decide to eighter go with the 920+ or wait until Synology comes out with a 5 bay NAS with the more powerful AMD Ryzen “AND” embedded graphics. Fingers crossed ????the 1523+ will have it. The only question I have is, is 5 bay NAS more future-proof than the 4 bay?

        Thank you very much

        Rey750cc
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      118. Great test vid, cheers. Also thanks for the update on the 923+ on your website. I seriously hoped the 923+ would’ve launched with a CPU that supports hardware transcoding. Disappointed that it’ll probably be just a 4-bay version of the 1522+. All I want in a Synology NAS are: 1) ECC RAM, 2) 4+ bays, 3) hardware transcoding. I can get 2 out of 3 with the 920+ (2 and 3) and the 1522+ (1 and 3) but not all 3…
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      119. Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly. As 4K become the new standard, if I am to spend over 1000$+ on a NAS, I want to be able to futures proof and be fast enough.
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      120. Wonder if synology will eventually released a NAS capable of 4K transcoding. I’m thinking about building my own NAS with unraid. I’m looking to update my DS1517+ within the next few month possibly.
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      121. Fantastic comparison. I just got the DS1522+ (my very first NAS) primarily for Plex and I’m finding the same results as you that it will not play 4K movies. Luckily I only have a few 4K videos so it’s not a huge impact, but if I’d known this before my purchase I’d probably have gone with the DS920+.
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      128. One question: Why are the WD Red Pro 22TB HDDs all healthy? Did you edited the compatibility file on the Syno or anything else? Normaly only the 14TBs Red Plus are approved at Snologys compatibility matrix 🙂
        Thx in advance and Cheers
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      136. @NASCompares thank you for great content!

        I’m in the middle between choosing between DS920+ and DS1522+, I wondering will DS1522+ without GPU handle VMs better (with the same amount of RAM)?
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      140. I only use my Nas as raw storage for my PC that runs Plex.
        I use 4K Dolby Vision/HDR files regularly so my 9th Gen i3 paired with 16GB RAM plays everything flawlessly.
        The NAS is just my big boy storage for noisy drives down the hallway.

        I use a DS418
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      142. It would be really useful if you could highlight the general power consumption of the NAS units over time , I understand it’s complex and varies by use, but a general guide would be great – given the cost of electricity now – great channel 🙂
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      143. What about a slightly different use case: storing user created video from phone or a prosumer camera? For example, from an Apple iPhone. Then feeding video to Mac for Final Cut editing?
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      146. Looks like the new Ryzen 6800U would be a good match for the Synology. Low power and built in graphics. Although I’m not sure why they just don’t use a later generation Intel cpu. They must have gotten a better deal with the old Ryzen chips. “Old” being the keyword.
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      148. I don’t understand why you keep saying the 920+ can’t play 4k files. I’ve been playing them (Blu-ray remuxes) for over a year and transcoding them with no problem at all. Sincerely you should revise your test methodology because you are just spouting false info there.
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      156. Great video as usual.
        Please can you do the same comparison testing Sinology Photos with big amount of photos and h.264, h.265 videos on the library?

        Another one is to test the performance and CPU utilization difference in VM.
        Just curious if there’s any scenario with performance gain in the Ryzen!
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      159. I bought a DS1520+ as it basically a 5 bay 920+ and have been very happy with it as my Plex Server. I was concerned at the switch to AMD and this confirms it. I hope there is a Plex friendly 5 bay when I come to upgrade in a few years.
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      160. Would you mind helping me out with understanding this a bit more ? ????

        So I am going into this blindingly; I have two different NAS Diskstation Systems, that I’ve been thinking about purchasing and the reasoning for both is probably really stupid, which is why I am reaching out to ask for some useless information before blowing a bunch of money….
        I am basically wanting to purchase one of these so I can have my 15+ tb music & music video collection ALL within one place instead of having multiple external HD.
        The two that I am looking at are the DS1520 + and the DS920+.
        I plan to purchase the maximum amount of storage that these can withhold with the Exos 16 tb HD. (So total of either 4 or 5 of those 16 tb HD). And then some time later on down the road i will purchase the expansion and max that one out as well and have all of my music collectively all on one of these NAS systems. Another thing to note is I plan to also purchase the Lifetime License for Plex as well.

        If there are any upgrades that I can do to any of the two such as upgrade the RAM / add to the RAM or add a much better graphics card that will be dedicated to one of these please can you add that info in there as well.
        Thank you
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      161. How about surveillance station. Will it make any difference there if the cpu has built in graphics? E.g. I have 6 cameras, 3 of them 4k. They are running perfectly on a DS718+.
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      162. Thank you. So if I get it, Rob said neither of these are ideal for 4k playback. So let’s forget transcoding for a minute. I am at home on my LAN and want to stream a 4K file to a 4K device. Which would be the best Synology NAS to do this? None? Or may be the potential upcoming DS922+ with an upgraded CPU and integrated graphics? The very expensive DS 1621xs+? I love Synology because of the software and really would hate to go somewhere else. Will Synology really abandon the prosumer niche and not have a NAS that can handle 4K video (via Plex)? Even without transcoding? Would welcome any idea or feedback. Thank you.
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      163. https://youtu.be/m3rbGoXUPUo
        Not sure if you two follow each other, but your countryman has finally posted about his new Synology. Thought it would be of interest. –JB
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      169. SO the one thing to note is yes the 920 is the best here, You can do it with the 1522 but that’s a single source stream soon as you multi-stream with transcode its a much bigger win in respect to how many transcoding streams a 920 can handle vs a 1522 regardless of how dense your collection is.
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      172. This isn’t the ideal use case for either device. What would be really interesting to see is how they compare in native app multitasking, perhaps VMs etc.
        I still maintain the 1522 is a shameless downgrade not worth considering.
        “Return YouTube dislike” addon for most browsers is what you want, Rob ????
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      173. So glad to go with DS1522+. Why? Ticks so many more boxes to be future proof. Cheapest Synology 10 GB Capable

        They both struggle with Plex. So I move Plex to Mac Mini and it will encode any freaking video. Or constant struggle Playing 4K on 920+
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      177. I cannot beleive that there is NO WAY to sync any folder and file type from android device to synology nas… that drives me nuts… it’s either super complicated third party app to configure or the only syncing possible is with ds file that does ONLY pictures or synology photo crap app… I just want to sync ANY folder and their files in it (like download, ringtones and so on)… why the hell can’t synology do such thing ??? ds cloud does NOT permit to sync android folder to nas, it only sync the cloud that is on the nas to the android device, I want the other way around, there is no way to sync android ANY type of android files to nas.. urgh…
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      178. My synology is messing up my local network and I can’t figure out why. Internet drops for a few seconds every few min on all connected network devices. If I disconnect the NAS from the network, it seems to work just fine.
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      179. Login Speed – seemed easier with entering user name and password on the same dialogue to only hit enter once, especially when credentials are stored in the browser. Perhaps they changed it for increased security, prefer the old way.
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      180. 8:40 – I wish we could find the person responsible for using a Funnel for the filter icon and make them walk the plank. Funnels are not filters.
        But its too late now. The damage is done. People associate the funnel image with the filter action in software just like they associate the piece of paper with a folded corner for “new file”.
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      181. The missing “For you” from moments sorely missed – it was a great AI system for finding potential duplicate (or near duplicate) photos that just doesn’t work as well as the storage manager reports that only really find exact duplicate pictures.
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      182. 1.Log center cant be modified or set to exclude users or certain things you dont want logged.

        2.It is not compatible with DScloud anymore so you cant sync to mobile like you can do on DSM6 with the DSCloud app from Synology but you can use the Synology Package Center to download Resilio Sync or Good Sync but you have to pay a monthly/yearly fee for every user.

        Unlike Qnap when you buy your hardware, you arent forced to pay for syncing from and to your own hardware.

        With that said there is still a solution using Webdav to-way Nas-pc with Raidrive but you have to pay for software for Pro features.

        Mobile sync: Use Foldersync to-way Mobile-Nas, but you have to pay for software for Pro features.

        So far as i am aware of limitations using Synology DSM7 when it comes to syncing —> If you want Pro features or you want to use your Nas without reaching out to third-part software without paying extra fees it is recommended to switch to other Nas brands for me i feel Qnap has been working using 30 users for Laptop/Pc/Mac/Android/Iphone all Apps/Software working perfect Pro features without paying extra fee´s or forced to use third-part tools total control for Log center, File-Folder, Photo, Video, Virtualization, Web-sites and so much more.

        Other annoying difference i had with Synology i had was this—> i had to make a ticket to find out i cant use Synology Mobile App DS Cloud or that one cant choose what Synology Package-Log Center loggs, it wont let you choose to include, exclude or to delete certain logg if you press Clear button on the loggs that are in “Files downloaded” it deletes all, if you clear “user logins” it deletes all that and you cant revert the deletion.
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      183. Totally agree with your view on Photo Station. I’m glad you covered this as your feedback might get recognised. I don’t want to upgrade until Photos is comparable to what Photo Station had/has to offer.
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      184. almost perfection?
        Audio Station is totally broken, playback is being cut off,
        Media indexing fails to scan more than 50% files,
        translations in DSM are not complete, some even have nonsense,
        I have no idea what Synology have been doing all the time releasing such buggy software
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      187. Useful but a bit of a ramble with Robby. My time notes:

        https://youtu.be/xZrjPF4nmRc?t=674

        11:14 User Interface
        12:00 Help Center
        12:35 Control Panel
        14:03 Security
        15:27 Collaboration Suite
        15:45 Synology Drive
        17:18 Multimedia Apps
        18:47 Plex and 3rd party app issues
        19:47 DSM 7 background package integration improvements
        20:25 HyperBackup, USB copy
        21:24 Cloud Synchronization
        22:27 Business Applications
        23:30 Storage Manager
        25:15 Fast Raid Repair
        26:35 RAID 6 speedup
        27:19 Bench testing, storage performance, UI improvements
        29:00 Surveillance Station
        30:04 Virtual Machine Manager
        32:40 USB changes on DSM7
        34:08 Security and UI
        34:40 Resource Monitor and UI
        35:00 Storage Analyzer
        36:55 Recommendations
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      188. I’ve installed it as a VM on my DS1821+ and I’m completely disappointed with the new photos app. Maybe I’m old fashioned idk but the way timeline view is implemented it doesn’t allow you to look at a timeline on an album level anymore like you could do in photostation. You have to choose between album view or timeline view. I like to look at my photos different ways and this makes the app kind of unusable for me. Additionally I would like them to shows tags on the timeline view when you’re inside an album that has multiple albums underneath it but no photos in it directly. I’ve reached out to them but very little hope of it getting done in my opinion. I’m not upgrading until photos is useable as photostation is no longer supported on dsm7. Additionally I had a lot of indexing / conversion issues on my VM with my photos directory. Not sure if that’s just a VM issue or not
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      193. Hi. Is it safe and or good for my Synology 920+ to be shut down during the night and sometimes for 30 days at a time while away? Many thanks for your great videos.
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      194. I upgraded both my DS 218J and my brand new DS920+ to DSM 7.0 and liking it a lot! No real problems. Moments with my Photos lost its tags during the transition to Synology Photos. I have to redo them but that’s ok. Everything else is great. I agree with this review.
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      195. so is there any reason for me to wait for the DSM update to come through automatically on my DS1520+ or should I just manually update now? Is it likely that more changes will be made to it before the automatic update comes through?
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      198. Does DSM 7 introduce any issues with access via the NFS protocol? I use my DS420j strictly as a file server in a Linux environment and do not really care about photo station, music station, etc. Quick, reliable access via NFS is my main concern. Thank you for your fine videos.
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      199. Photos all seemed to work once I requested a re-indexing. However, photo sharing is completely broken. Even if you request that anyone can view with a URL, Synology NAS still requests a username and password. Sigh…………………
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      200. I notice the absence of Amazon S3 on the cloud service for HyperBackup… Is it still possible to backup to Amazon S3 Glacier storage in DSM7? Or they removed it not to compete with their own C2 solution?
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      201. Thanks for your valuable videos. I missed the loss of DS Cloud, so syncing became a problem. I started using Syncthing after upgrading to DSM7. I also have a problem with Synology Drive from my laptop on a company network, while using Express VPN. It keeps trying to connect to the server. When I switch off the VPN it works fine. Maybe I will switch to Syncthing on this Windows machine as well. For me this is a key function for a NAS so I didn’t expect it to work less good. But all and all it’s a big improvement.
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      204. No mention of the issues with third party packages that worked fine in 6.2.4 but no longer work in DSM 7, it might be almost perfect IF you only use Synology apps.
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      206. Hello, I am sure that it will surely be for reasons of not extending the video too much, but your way of showing and explaining the news and characteristics of this new DSN are not very clear, at least for me you are going too fast and a bit messy. I’m not saying it in a bad way but I think you could do it in a more calm and neat way. Thank you very much anyway.
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      208. I use a KDLinks media stream box to watch movies and videos I store on my Synology NAS DS918+. Does DSM 7.0 support the ability for the stream box to sign into the NAS and stream the files?
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      211. 20:53 I ran into the exact issue you have 2 days ago on DSM6.2.4. I opened a support ticket that is still open, however I suspect it’s a browser based issue. Try opening in a different browser and see if you can view all of the back up options in that. It’s a Munster to me how this happened as I even cleared my browser cache and it persisted in Firefox. When I opened in safari it was “fixed}
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      214. Show idea, upgrading synology hardware. Example, use a ds213 case and change the motherboard to a newer model including modifying the case for USB ports if needed.
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      215. Your shows are good, however, can you please make them shorter/succinct. Perhaps add text boxes on the screen so we can see that as you move on. Again, you do a fantastic job ???? thanks for your hard work.
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      217. One thing I’d love is for larger NAS to support mounting volume from older smaller NAS.
        For instance, I had an old DS411j that failed on me, one of the drive failed but the NAS was full, so now I can’t even start it up. I just wish I could buy some of the 12 slots new NAS and then mount my 4 old drive into the new system and then just transfer data and format the old drives to add them to the new volume. I asked Synology if we can do that, their answer: nope, unless you build a Linux computer and mount drives on Linux and transfer your data. If I need to build a Linux computer, I’d better off just to use FreeNAS and never have to deal with Synology DSM…
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      218. Microsoft Edge is base on Chromium, so any issues you have with Chrome will most likely happen in Edge as well. You need to test on browses like Firefox that are not base on Chromium.

        I use Firefox and only have one M.2 slot filled and the 4 HDDs bays are full. Testing what I could zooming out made the empty M.2 disappear. It did not make the icon show under the other one as shown by you..
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      223. i have a test DS119j and upgraded it to DSM 7 and it’s very slow. Tested 4gb of photo’s and the database is going on for days.
        Going to upgrade my DS1821+ now. Hope 10GB will still work.
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      224. For the past week, Universal Search has been HOARDING CPU and RAM!
        Indexing just goes on and on and on, non stop!

        I can’t find a workaround!
        Disabling Universal Search in DSM 7, disables Synology Drive and Synology Office
        Instructions for this problem, found on forums, are all for DSM 6 and DON’T work on DSM 7
        This is pathetic!
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      225. For me it doesn’t matter as much if the new apps arent quite as good as the old ones yet as long as they have been written on a newer platform that easier to add missing and new features later rather than an app that was based on ds 4. Apple’s old website went down before a launch not to increase excitement but because it was old and rubbish and had to be .
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      228. Still I have hibernation issue and I opened a ticket with Synology support. After analyzing the debug logs, they came back with SMB and VMM are the cause of periodic waking up of HDD’s. But still I couldn’t find an answer from support that why this periodic waking up which exactly happens each hour related to VMM and SMB, assuming no laptops connected to NAS in the test period and no VM was running. Will update in case support answers me.
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