The Synology DS223 NAS Rumoured for Q4 2022 / Q1 2023
Update UK 08/02/23 – The Synology DS223 NAS has now been launched, and you can find my written DS223 review HERE and my YouTube video DS223 review HERE!
Update (11/01/23 UK) – The Synology DS223 NAS is Now released in TW
Brand New Synology DS223 Value Series NAS Released
Hot on the heels of their recent releases in the Synology Plus range, Synology has now revealed a new Value Series 2-Bay NAS – The Synology DS223 NAS. Powered by a newer generation Realtek ARM v8 processor, this is the first entry into a no doubt soon to expand value range of diskstation devices to replace the (frankly) long overdue refresh of the DS218, DS118, DS418, DS120j and DS220j devices in their portfolio. Arriving with a similar level of hardware across the rest of the device to the 2018-2020 released value/budget devices in most other regards, the most notable change here is the scale up in processor from the RTD1296 to the RTD1619B. Let’s discuss the hardware that we know, how that will impact DSM and where it improves upon the older gen.
What Are the Hardware Specifications of the Synology DS223 NAS
So, as mentioned above, the actual hardware across the bulk of the DS223 is largely identical to the DS218 NAS. Synology have pretty much kept everything (the chassis, USB standard, network connection, memory capacity and scalability) identical. That CPU is the only meaninglful change. Then again, they did see huge success with the Realtek product family up to this point and it would make sense for them to continue using this fantastically efficient but capable series. So, let’s dig into those specifications a little:
 Synology DS223 NAS Drive
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Processor
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Processor model | Realtek RTD1619B |
| Number of CPUs | 1 | |
| processor architecture | 64-bit | |
| processor clock | 4-core 1.7 GHz | |
| hardware encryption engine | Yes | |
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Memory
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system memory | 2 GB DDR4 non-ECC |
| Remark | Synology reserves the right to replace memory components with the same or higher frequency depending on the supplier’s product availability. Its compatibility and stability have undergone the same rigorous testing and inspection, please feel free to use it. | |
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storage device
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Number of slots | 2 |
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| Disk hot-plug support* | Yes | |
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external port
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RJ-45 1GbE LAN port* | 1 |
| USB 3.2 Gen 1 port* | 3 | |
| USB / SD Copy | No | |
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file system
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internal disk |
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Exterior
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Size (HXWXD) | 165mm x 108mm x 232.7mm |
| weight | 1.28 kg | |
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other projects
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system fan | 92 mm x 92 mm x 1 pcs |
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| Front panel LED indicators with adjustable brightness | Yes | |
| Power Auto Reply | Yes | |
| Noise value* | 14.6 dB(A) | |
| Timer switch | Yes | |
| wake on lan | Yes | |
| Power Supply / Transformer | 60W | |
| AC input voltage | 100V to 240V AC | |
| current frequency | 50/60 Hz, single frequency | |
| power consumption | 17.343 W (access) 4.08 W (disk hibernation) |
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| BTU | 59.19 BTU/hr (access) 13.92 BTU/hr (disk hibernation) |
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warranty
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2-year hardware warranty, you can purchase Extended Warranty Plus to enjoy up to 4-year product warranty service. | |
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environment
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RoHS Compliant | |
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package contents
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So, this CPU. Synology are not the first brand to start utilizing this processor (Terramaster were the first, with their own Value series that was unveiled at the end of 2022). In the coming weeks, we will be investigating further into the capabilities of this CPU, but there is no doubt that Synology will have thoroughly explored the running and efficiency of DSM 7.1 (7.2 Beta arriving soon) on this processor. The system arrives with 2GB of DDR4 Memory (non-ECC) that cannot be upgraded. This is not a huge surprise (this has been the case for this product family, plus the play and Value series running on ARM processors pretty much since day dot!) and we will almost certainly see scaling in memory in the 1-Bay, 4-Bay and J series alternatives to this NAS as they arrive to popular Synology’s Value tier for 2023/2024. 2GB is more than enough for DSM 7.1. PLUS series features like the inclusion of M.2 NVMe SSD bays are absent, but that is not something I would have expected on this series anyway. Another question some users might have is regarding hard drive and SSD compatibility. Synology in 2022 made some rather strong moves towards prioritizing their own storage media and upgrades in their Plus and above series’, still supporting the use of 3rd party hardware in a bunch of areas (relenting at one point and adding WD Red and Seagate Ironwolf on the compatibility lists, where previously they seemed absent).
I am pleased to confirm that the Synology DS223 NAS will definitely arrive with compatibility and support of the 3rd Party HDD/SSD manufacturers (as well as their own HDDs and SSDs of course). The maximum supported capacity is still at 18TB (again, likely in line with their own HAT5300 capping at 18TB at the time of writing), but at least users of this value tier device will not have to be concerned with opting for media outside of their usual brand of choice. Let’s discuss DSM’s supported features and services on the Synology DS223 NAS.
What Are the Software Specifications of the Synology DS223 NAS
The Synology DS223 NAS will arrive with the latest version of DSM 7 available, as well as the support of Synology Hybrid RAID too. As this is an ARM v8 processor, there is going to be the odd compromise here o there (although 4K handling is possible, 4K transcoding and general video encoding/conversion to a meaningful degree is going to be something of a pipe dream! Synology has managed to include the bulk of DSM 7’s features and serives with the DS223 hardware here, though the depth of support of 3rd party applications and services is still TBC till I have one in the office for review. Things like Virtual Machines are DEFINITELY NOT going to be possible here and the performance/scale of surveillance on this NAS with Synology’s Surveillance Station application re ging to be a little lighter than on a PLUS model, but again that is something we would expect for a value series device. Let’s go through those services and features of DSM that are supported, as well as the extent to which they run:
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DSM Product Specifications
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storage space management
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Maximum single volume capacity* | 108TB |
| Maximum number of storage spaces | 64 | |
| SSD TRIM | Yes | |
| Support RAID disk array type |
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| RAID Configuration Migration | Basic to RAID 1 | |
| Larger hard drives can be used to expand storage space |
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| Add new hard disk to expand storage space | Synology Hybrid RAID | |
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file service
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file agreement | SMB/AFP/NFS/FTP/WebDAV |
| Maximum simultaneous SMB/AFP/FTP connections | 200 | |
| Windows Access Control List (ACL) Integration | Yes | |
| NFS Kerberos authentication | Yes | |
| Remark | The test standard is based on the maximum number of simultaneous connections supported by this model. During testing, 25% of the connections were concurrently transferring files. The transmission process only ensures that the connection is not interrupted, and cannot guarantee the minimum transmission speed. | |
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Accounts and Shared Folders
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Maximum number of local user accounts | 1,024 |
| Maximum number of local groups | 256 | |
| Maximum number of shared folders | 256 | |
| Maximum Shared Folder Sync Tasks | 4 | |
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Hybrid Share
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Maximum number of Hybrid Share folders | 5 |
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log center
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Number of logs received per second | 400 |
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General Specifications
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Internet protocol | SMB1 (CIFS), SMB2, SMB3, NFSv3, NFSv4, NFSv4.1, NFS Kerberized sessions, iSCSI, HTTP, HTTPs, FTP, SNMP, LDAP, CalDAV |
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| supported language | English, Deutsch, Français, Italiano, Español, Dansk, Norsk, Svenska, Nederlands, Русский, Polski, Magyar, Português do Brasil, Português Europeu, Türkçe, Český, ภษษไทย, Traditional Chinese, Simplified | |
| Remark | For details of supported browser versions, please refer to DSM Technical Specifications . | |
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Additional Kits View Full Kit List
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Synology Chat
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download station
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Maximum number of download tasks | 80 |
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SAN Manager
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Maximum number of iSCSI Targets | 10 |
| Maximum number of LUNs | 10 | |
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Media Server
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DLNA compatible | |
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Synology Photos
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face recognition | |
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Snapshot Replication
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The maximum number of snapshots supported by a single shared folder | 256 |
| Maximum number of system snapshots | 4,096 | |
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Surveillance Station
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The maximum number of cameras supported (camera authorization is required) | 20 (including 2 sets of free licenses) (see compatible IP cameras) |
| Frames per second (FPS) (H.264) | 600 FPS @ 720p (1280×720) 460 FPS @ 1080p (1920×1080) 300 FPS @ 3M (2048×1536) 150 FPS @ 5M (2591×1944) 110 FPS @ 4K (3840×2160) |
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| Frames per second (FPS) (H.265) | 600 FPS @ 720p (1280×720) 500 FPS @ 1080p (1920×1080) 400 FPS @ 3M (2048×1536) 350 FPS @ 5M (2591×1944) 250 FPS @ 4K (3840×2160) |
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Synology Drive
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Recommended number of clients that can sync simultaneously | 200 (the number of devices that can be connected at the same time when the recommended number of stored files is reached) |
| Recommended number of files to store | 500,000 (applicable to files indexed or belonging to Synology Drive , files accessed through other protocols, please refer to the file service in the above field) | |
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Synology Office
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Maximum number of users | 200 |
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Video Station
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VPN Server
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Maximum number of connections | 20 |
If you are interested in the full range of services and applications (of which the Synology DS223 will likely run around 80% or so of which, just not the higher-end process/graphically demanding ones), you can watch my full Synology DSM 7.1 Review below. It covers pretty much everything and you can use the chapters at the bottom to fast-forward to the appropriate app/service/function that you are most interested in.
Next, let’s discuss how much improvement/difference we have in the DS223 against the DS218 NAS that it is seemingly refreshing for 2023.
How Does the Synology DS223 compare with the DS218 NAS?
The Synology DS223 NAS is not going to be an enormous jump in terms of ability over the DS218. Yes, this new CPU will bring improvements in power (aka clock speed) which means more ‘umpf’ under the bonnet to get things done, but also it will be more efficient, as it will benefit from the further developments by Realtek in getting the most out of these more economical of processors. The RTD1619b and RTD1296 are both quad-core, but the newer gen DS223 CPU is 1.7Gh in clock speed, so that means more resources to get your tasks done and (thanks to that R&D) less being used per task – so win-win. Below is a breakdown of how the DS223 and DS218 compare:
When Will the Synology DS223 NAS Drive Be Released and what is the Price?
Right now, Synology is taking its time on rolling the information out on this device globally, but we will likely see the full release of the Synology DS223 NAS globally before the end of Jan 2023. Regarding pricing, Synology will be keen to maintain the price point of their other value series NAS devices, so expect to see the DS223 arriving at around $270 / £230 / €260 (be sure to factor in your local tax and shipping of course). We can almost certainly expect the arrival of a 4-Bay DS423 and DS223j and/or DS423j NAS too soon.
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Original Article from July 2022 Can be found Below:
Update (28/09/22 UK) – The CPU that will be featured in the Synology DS223j, DS123 and DS223 will be the Realtek RTD1619. The articles have been updated. The release date is looking like Q1 (Jan-March) 2023.
If you have been looking at Synology or a more cost-effective, low-price and highly power-efficient NAS drive in 2022/2023, then there is a very good chance that you have been wondering about the release of the DS223, as the current affordable ‘standard series’ offering of the DS218 has been available now for well over FOUR YEARS! Well, I am pleased to share that I have been informed that Synology has plans to release the newest entry into their standard class tier with this new 2-Bay NAS in the last quarter of 2022 (or possibly the start of 2023). This little snippet of information (alongside mention of other new desktop NAS’, such as the DS223j, DS223+, DS723+ and DS923+), details which units are going to form the bulk of the brand’s home-prosumer-SMB diskstation portfolio. The DS2xx and DS4xx series has always been highly desirable as the entry point for most first-time Synology NAS small business users and although is a solution that arrives with hardware that could arguably be called ‘economical’, it is worth also remembering that it will almost certainly arrive with support of DSM 7 – so you are going to be looking at an affordably jumping off point into a complete hardware+software solution. Although the details we have on the DS223 are incredibly thin on the ground at the time of writing, this information DOES come from a very trustworthy source that I am sorry to say I cannot share. I am sure this will result in many having doubts about the reliability of this information (I would feel the same), but you are just going to have to trust me on this and/or wait out the rest of 2022 as this all plays out. Let’s discuss the DS223 a little further.
Update 12/09/22 – Small Update on the DS223 and DS423 indicates Release Relatively Soon
A very, very small update on the Synology DS223 and DS423 with information on the three appearings (very briefly) on an official Synology site (the Japan official page, via the Knowledge center) that appeared in Google. Unfortunately, the listed page does not lead to any direct information (possibly as pages/listing or these new NAS are being drafted and lined up for additions to the official Synology NAS support directories – in ‘hidden’ forms. Even via Google Cache and WayBackMachine, no further information is publically accessible on these pages. However, the found model IS text is still shown on the Google search results (see below) and largely indicates that the new NAS for the Diskstation 2023 will be arriving in Q4 2022.
Note – I have made an absolutely tiny ‘update’ to this update, as the search results that show these new NAS’ has now appeared in more languages/locations on their site:
Update 01/09 – New CPU Information for the Synology DS223, DS223j and DS423
This a small but very pertinent update to the potential CPU that will be in the Synology Value series. Alongside ongoing rumours that the first wave of DSx23 series diskstation NAS will arrive in October, a new CPU entry has appeared online with DSM 7.1 support of late 2020 released Realtek RTD1619 ARMv8-A processor. The architecture of which is incredibly likely to be for the DS223j, DS223 and DS423:
Realtek RTD1619
Cortex-A55 SoC
ARMv8-A
Q4 2020
12 nm / 5W
6 Core @ 1.3 GHz
4GB Max Capacity (likely tiered at each value model)
H.265 4K@60fps, H.264 4K@30fps, 1080p@60fps
Ethernet 10/100/1000 Mbit/s
USB 3.0, USB 2.0
Now, the interesting thing about this CPU is that 6 core architecture and increased 4K support over that of the RTD1296 that came before it (though a marginal drop in clock speed, this is more than made up for in efficiency). The ethernet/network speed still appears to cap at 1GbE, but even though 2.5GbE continues to grow in the market, I think very few people (myself included) would have though Synology would include a 2.5G network connection in their value tier. Here is how the RTD1619 and RTD1296 CPU Compare:
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Realtek RTD1296
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Realtek RTD1619
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ISA |
ARMv8-A (64-bit) |
ARMv8-A (64-bit) |
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Synology NAS ft. CPU |
DS220j, DS420j, DS118, DS218, DS418 |
DS223, DS223j, DS423 (TBC) |
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Microarchitecture |
Cortex-A53 |
Cortex-A55 |
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Family |
RTD |
RTD |
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Part number(s), S-Spec |
RTD1296 |
RTD1619 |
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Release date |
Q4 2018 |
Q4 2020 |
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Lithography |
12 nm |
12 nm |
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Cores |
4 |
6 |
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Threads |
4 |
6 |
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Base frequency |
1.4 GHz |
1.3 GHz |
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High performance cores |
4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.4 GHz |
6x ARM Cortex-A55 @ 1.3 GHz |
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Cache memory |
1 MB |
1 MB |
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Max memory capacity |
2 GB |
4 GB |
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Memory types |
LPDDR2/3, DDR3/4 |
LPDDR2/3, DDR3/4 |
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TDP |
13 W |
5 W |
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GPU integrated graphics |
ARM Mali-T820 MP3 |
ARM Mali-G51 MP3 |
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GPU execution units |
3 |
3 |
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GPU shading units |
48 |
48 |
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GPU base clock |
650 MHz |
650 MHz |
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GPU boost clock |
750 MHz |
650 MHz |
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GPU FP32 floating point |
30.6 GFLOPS |
72 GFLOPS |
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Socket |
SoC |
SoC |
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Max display resolution |
4K@60fps |
4K@60fps |
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Video decoding |
H.265 4K@60fps, H.264 4K@30fps, 1080p@60fps |
H.265 4K@60fps, H.264 4K@30fps, 1080p@60fps |
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Video encoding |
H.264 1080p@60fps |
H.264 1080p@60fps |
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Modem |
Ethernet 10/100/1000 Mbit/s |
Ethernet 10/100/1000 Mbit/s |
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Connectivity |
USB 3.0, USB 2.0, HDMI 2.0a |
USB 3.0, USB 2.0, HDMI 2.0b |
Below is the rest of the original article from 18/07/22.
What Do We Know About the Synology DS223 NAS Drive?
Unfortunately, we still have very few concrete ideas on many of the details of the DS223 NAS. Alongside the DS223, I have been informed that the Synology DS923+ Expandable and Fully Featured 4-Bay and FOUR new revisions of the Diskstation 2-Bay are in the works. The 2 Bay systems are the Synology DS723+ Expandable Premium NAS, a DS223+ mid-range fully software featured 2-Bay, a DS223j cost effective series NAS and, finally, the DS223 cost-effective 2-Bay system. No details on the hardware have been provided, but these will almost certainly follow in the footsteps of previously released Diskstation 2/4-Bay Devices in this hardware tier, such as the DS418, DS118 and DS218play. Unfortunately, I cannot disclose the source of this information. This is as much information as I can share right now, other than a rather wide release window (see at the bottom of the article), that is about it. Now, I can already hear the complaints in the comments about this, but you are going to have to trust me on this one, as I trust the source and in 6 months all this will play out. Additionally, I received further information on other planned Synology hardware accessories/add-ons that I need to verify in the meantime before I publish. So, let’s discuss what we think the hardware of the DS223 and other Diskstations are likely to be.
What Do We Expect the Hardware of the Synology DS223 NAS to Be?
As mentioned, the DS223 information I have received also highlights a range of other NAS devices arriving in that same 6 months time frame. The DS2xx/DS4xx NAS has always formed one of the lowest hardware/price points of the RAID-enabled systems in the brand’s portfolio (with the lowest available tier being the DS2xxj and DS4xxj systems) and the need for the system to run DSM 7 comfortably (even at this more home-user-focused system) will result in the brand giving this NAS a modest, yet still capable day one hardware. I will say that at the time of writing, I have ZERO idea on the CPU+Memory of the DS223, but with well over a decade of this brand’s approach to these systems, we can make some educated guesses based on the brand’s hardware choices in previous years AND the state of NAS hardware/components that are favoured by the industry in 2022/2023 already. The DS223 will almost certainly not arrive with an x86 processor, instead arriving with an ARM processor (likely ARM v8). So, for the DS223 NAS CPU, I think it will be one of two options (and again, this is an educated guess):
- An ARM 4-core/4-thread Cortex-A55 2.0GHz processor, 64bit
- AnnapurnaLabs Alpine AL324 / AL314 64-bit ARM Cortex-A57 4-core 1.7GHz processor
Additionally, Synology has had a habit in the last few years of using similar/identical CPU choices in both the standard class DSXXX and DSXXXj series and with a J and standard class 2-bay highlighted in the information I was given, I am included to think this will happen again, with differentiations between J and standard coming down to quantities of memory and ports/connections available in the default model. Both of these processors are ARM architecture, i.e. they are very power efficient for 24×7 use. Alongside these, I can imagine that the DS223 will arrive with 2GB of fixed/non-upgradeable memory in line with previous DS2xx releases to ensure that DSM 7 runs as smoothly as it can with its base-level functions (i.e before you install further applications in the app center). The DS220j that was released back in 2018/19 + DSM 6.1 was able to run, even with its modest Realtek RTD1296 CPU and 2GB of memory, and even ran DSM 7 (with high CPU/Memory utilization admittedly – as shown in the video below), but I think the DS223 will need 1GB of DDR4 if it plans to run DSM 7 smoothly in years to come.
Aside from that, I do not think we will see much else changed on this. The System will certainly be 1GbE and feature one or more USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports. As well as almost certainly arriving in the familiar Synology black plastic chassis of previous generations. One question people might have is HDD compatibility and I cannot see the brand being heavy-handed on this very affordable end of the portfolio, however, do not rule this out (in even a small way) if Synology reveal a more mid-range/affordable HDD series alongside their enterprise HAT5300s.
When Will We See the Synology DS223 NAS Released?
We understand that the DS223 and other DSx23 Diskstation systems are arriving towards the end of the year and start of 2023 – Almost certainly in smaller release groups and with further details on them being revealed at the Synology 2023 Event (that last bit IS speculative, but almost certainly the case). We will update this page regularly with more information on the DS223 NAS as it arrives, so if you want to be the first to know, you can get alerts on this SPECIFIC page by entering your email address below.
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What is idle power consumption looking like ?
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Would you recommend this DS223 for photography backup/editing as that’s all i need it for?
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Hi can I use it for store Adobe Photoshop design ?
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You say that it’s an ARM CPU but in the specs, it’s listed as a Realtek RTD1619B which isn’t an option on the PLEX website to download it’s just ARM Intel or AMD so what do I choose?
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Thank you for this detailed overview
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Thanks for the review. I need some urgent advice. My very old DS214 failed a few months after i upgraded the HDD to a Toshiba N300 8 Gb. Moving to other brands will require formating right? I do not want to format the drive so if i were to go with the DS233 can i just plug my drive and expect it to read off the bat? Thanks
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I would like a NAS that supports ssd drives?
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I have been working with the DS120j single bay version. I need to have the ability to ether create four volumes to control size or four shared folders for the same reason. The DS120j will not support either, seems the software is limited, wondering if this dual bay is the same way.
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It’s great to see a thorough review of the Synology ds-223, especially for home users. The value and simplicity of this NAS are appealing, and the one-touch USB copy button is a thoughtful addition for backups. However, it’s a bit disappointing to still have only one GbE port in this day and age. I agree that offering 2.5 GbE or USB adapter support would have been a significant improvement. Nonetheless, for those looking to dip their toes into the world of NAS, this seems like a reasonable entry point.
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[00:14] Hey there! I totally get your concern about the whole spy balloon thing. It’s crazy to think that something as innocuous as a weather balloon could potentially be used for spying. Privacy is a real concern these days. ????
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I love your channel. I just bought Synology DS223 plus Toshiba N300 NAS Drives.
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i have the problem with DSM 7 that the IPSEC server does not run well, and there are connection problems, but when using 6,2 the problems are disappered. Is there a fault in DSM7 ??
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I have a question. Looking at the NAS Compares comparison article on Synology 2 Bay devices, it states that 2.5inch SSD’s are optional in relation to the mounting trays, or so it seems to me based on the description in the comparison table. It’s confusing and this review doesn’t suggest you need some optional bit of kit to mount 2.5inch SSD’s.
What’s going on?
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I bought DS423+ after comparison reviews from your channel, and watched this video while still waiting for it to arrive. Great job! Is someone at the door? it’s my NAS arrived!
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Thanks for the review, in the video you show a seagate 20tb hdd, i want to buy this nas and i like to use the toshiba 20tb disk, do you know if this drives are compatible without losing space? Thanks!
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Great Video – very helpful. we have a WD 8TB drive and its so slow. do you know a drive that would not be so slow? just want to make sure i put great fast drives in the new 2bay. thank you.
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Had this on in the background over a couple of days. This is the comment you requested — I made it to the end! =D
It’s definitely not in the budget for me yet, but I’m dreaming about a NAS in my setup in the future!
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Good afternoon,
I’m choosing my first NAS, I need storage for movies. Right now Nvidia Shield Pro is connected to the TV, as it plays 4K and Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos (in my case via PLEX).
Did I correctly understood that if I connect NAS and Shield to the same network, I can play movies through the Shield in their original quality (without compression and re-encoding) on a TV using the Shield’s processor?
I looked after myself DS223, as it is budgetary and should be suitable for my tasks. At first I looked at DS223j, but it only has 1gb ram and it scared me away.
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Every time I listen to the reviews of the product I bought, I wished I purchased the “other.” ????
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Is this a good NAS to put in a bedroom when I use SSD’s as storage?
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That intro earned you a like.
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can it torrent?
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I don’t get it. You start a NAS review and start it out by alienating 50% of your potential viewers? I think Biden, allowing those Chinese balloons fly over the United States was poor, poor decision making bordering on criminal. So you’ve lost my thumbs up and subscribe. I’m only one person calling you out on it. How many others did you piss off? Not a great way to start your videos.
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Yes it is cheap, but not best money valve than ds723+
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I like your long review
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it takes 3 days of time to transfer 650gb of photos and videos? around 30k files overall, video transfer and larger file is fast @100-110mb/s on 1GbE network (expected)
BUT when it comes to small files aka photos, my god does it take long time, is this normal? its like 1 photo every 3-5sec, its super slow
oh, and I’m connected directly to NAS and my PC is also on ethernet
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does this support docker?
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Hi, If I only want my files safe… Is this 2 bay Raid1 NAS good enough for continuous backups? Or should I benefit more from 4 bay Raid5?
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I never use the USB for NAS anyway
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Considering for a offsite backup. Thanks for the great review.
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Se me han puesto los dientes largos con las opciones del dispositivo. Vengo de un D-Link del año 2011 (lo jubilé de casa en 2021) y un WD de 2018, que lleva 1 semana sin poder acceder a mis archivos por internet por un ciberataque que han sufrido los servidores de WD el 26 de abril, aún sin respuesta. Espero que tras los más de 300 euros que me voy a gastar en España, me sirva para que esto no ocurra de nuevo y de paso tener la sensación de poder usar un escritorio remoto en mi tableta cuando salgo de viaje.
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you what’s the best solution to save files or whatever is to buy an external hard drive and connect it to a computer and save, unplug and you’re done. no mess ho headache
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i did watch the whole video
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Hello and thank you for your time and information! I’m new to the NAS & RAID World! I own a M1 Mac and I use it in my Home Studio. Over the last 6 months I’ve acquired multiple Seagate Hard Drive. 3 Regular 6TB & 1 Ironwolf NAS 6TB. I also have a 5 Bay ORICO-9558RU3 5 Bay 80TB (5 X 16TB) RAID Enclosure Storage
Can you explain the best way to use these all together???
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There will be Docker support on this model with DSM 7.2.
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is it better than ds220+ ?
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Excellent review as usual. However, vastly overpriced product, regardless of the great Synology software. They missed the mark.
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The 220+ is more capable then, rigth? Although it is going on 3 years..
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If they would just give the option to buy the software and stop suffering us with the netbook hardware
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Great content! Thanks for your time and experience!
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Hi, i’ve an old ds213+ and now i am thinking about an upgrade…ds220+ with upgraded ram 6gb could be a better choice than this 223 ? tks
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A couple weeks ago I bought an Xbox S – roughly the price of this NAS. The box came with a 5cm hole, but there’s not even a scratch on the device thanks to good quality protective cardboard structure.
So no, this is not dull. And the fact that anyone would package fragile electronics this way – knowing many (if not most) of consumers will buy online – is just sad. My coffee beans come in better boxes.
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If I get right – this thing can’t transcode direct play, BUT i CAN play files on devices thrue the SMB/DLNA file streaming (by recources of device who trying to open this video files). Right?
I deffenently ready to my first NAS)) But noobs is so noobies))
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I was expecting a comparison between the DS723+*, DS220, similar Qnap Systems and DIY NAS. Why buy, or not buy this NAS. A deal comparison with DS220 + HDD included vs this + buying more expensive seperate HDD. Instead I felt I was being read a Wikipedia page and the specs.
Also I wish you’d sometimes explain the shortcuts like DSM, because its very vold now in Switzerland and I was outside going for a walk wihile listening to this and I couldnt always pull out the Phone after every shortcut I didnt understand. Maybe in future you can explain some of them in 1 short sentence. Explaining each and every shortcut in the next – total guess – 10 videos for new NAS users like myself.
*You did mention it but where was the reasoning? Why not invest 100.- more. Whats the comparison, pros and cons. Your reasoning is: buy this if your new to NAS, so you can tipeditoe with this one, untill your toes are ready for a better NAS? What? Its not funny, its a long Video and at the end Im not being explained why this one, why not 723+, why not 220? Qnap?
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I’ve seen reports of using the read-write cache option causing the entire raid volume to crash if an ssd fails, so I’m personally going to be sticking with the read cache only.
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Thanks for the review. I am looking for my first nas and since 223 released I have a question: should I buy DS223 or Qnap TS-230 (it’s 2 times cheaper) or add a little money and buy DS220+?
Thanks in advance
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Hi. Im planning build a NAS with a Qnap TS-230. A friend recomend using a Rasbery pi and use two drives. Do you have experience on this? Can it have sync files like Qnap one? Raid1?
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I wonder how it compares to 220+ 😛
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What is a good Synology NAS for holding my Lightroom Catalogue? processor, ram, should I get one with M.2 NVME ? 2 or 4 bay
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Will there be DS223+ to replace DS220?
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USB copy was extremely slow though…like it was much slower than dragging it over network, is that still the case?
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Completely O.T. : Robbie, would you consider a video on which upgrades you would suggest for several use cases. For example, where would you add memory ? An SSD cache ? Etc. And, while we’re here, perhaps another video where, instead of starting with a particular NAS, start with 4 or 5 use cases and discuss what those users should be considering in their choice of a NAS. CPU’s, memory, cache, data transfer rates in/out, graphics processing, etc ? Maybe 2 or 3 NAS choices per use case.
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Hey there! I really gotta compliment you on your ability to pump out daily, quality content. I only recently got into PCs and NAS, so I’m still pretty new with a lot to learn, but I’m really thankful I found your channel. Serious kudos to you. I see daily, in-depth posts from you and it’s seriously impressive. Keep it up and best of luck!
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So cpu and gpu wise it gets outclassed by a 3 year old smartphone and it does not support plex.
For the life of me … I can’t see the value of this product when still existing the TS253 or the even cheaper Terramaster F2-210.
Who will buy this?
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Hahaha funny
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Thks & yous mentioned DS223+;
I guesses there’s still hopes for a good/cool/cheap/etc home NAS maybes 😉
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Got to say, the X20+ was way better suited for home users for the media performance, these X23+ are made mostly for offices. Is Synology ditching the home user base? I’m seriously considering other brands from now and Synology was my go to for years.
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ds223 vs ds220+ ?
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Damn birds…
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He he
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It amazes me that from my ds216+ii they have found no way to add enough value for me to upgrade. I’ll give them a clue, it starts in 2.5……..
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On the face of it Synology have lost the plot and the majority of home users who use their NAS as a media server, like me, won’t be buying a Synology next.
Yes, this is an entry level device but if this was 1985 it would be perfect. This is a sad attempt and is a sub entry level NAS
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That intro got me to bad ????❤
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Three USB ports while the newer DS723+ has one. Mockery of Synology.
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Basically it’s DSM and two drive availability for the value proposition… plus a roll of duct tape for hardware vis-a-vis… reality?
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Seagull intro ????
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223…hum….
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Not worth reviewing, no substantial upgrade. Only 1gb, only 2g ram.
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How this doesn’t have more likes is unjust. He covers so much and shows great examples. He also has time marks for reference. Great resource! Keep up the good work, would give you more likes if I could.
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Here for the seagulls.
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One thing I wish sonology would do especially further backup program is allow you to back up to a networked windows pool drive aka the NAS sync with networked multipooled Windows drive giving you to a form of backup even if you cannot see the data on the Windows pool that be fine if it was just an encrypted image or better yet allow the damn system to read Windows pool drives…. You’re plugging a USB hub with all your USB drives the nas makes its own virtual pool out of those drives and then it backs up just in case there’s nobody has a single 60 terabyte drive …. The fact that most people are coming from multiple hard drives externally to Nas and can’t use those multiple drives as a single pool backup is annoying especially when there’s hard drive crashes or or anything like that at least you’d have a personal backup I didn’t even pay 10-15 dollars per drive one time fee to make a pool for image backup
I literally had to Jerry rig using always-sync to back up the entire NAS drive on a 9 hard drive pool on the Windows side
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Insert the biggest thing I hate about Synology outside of their “hard drive requirements” (if the damn hard drive says Nas supported then it should just work you shouldn’t need a specific hard drive) is them telling you where to put your media or files for specific programs they own you should be able to tell the programs just like in Plex where the files are where you wanting to put the files and have one way think as an option with no deletion
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I personally find it difficult still for a novice user especially for making user accounts … Aka having public and private folders for individuals in a group setting (you can’t have both) we’re in the group setting everyone has the rules AKA right and no delete for public folder and the ability for only individual users in that group to only see their private folder and not everyone else’s
Aka private “Jon” public “all” private “Sarah”
John can still see Sarah’s folder
Because I haven’t nested in an outside folder public and an outside folder private where all their names are in the private folder so it’s nice and organized
But everyone can still see everyone’s folder I’d love to have it so that you can easily isolate nested folders
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One application they should make is a network photo slideshow screen saver picture frame app with dslp and outside network
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The one and only thing I don’t like about Synology multimedia apps or drive apps…. Is they TELL you where to put your media AND GENERALLY HAVE TWO-WAY SINK AS DEFAULT
Most users are going to have a plexa library that they’ve probably customized and should customize in one bulk “media folder” and then break it down within…. If you do stuff like that for all your multimedia they’re native apps don’t work you have to have it where they want it…. Same with sync you have to have it where they want it and it’s only sync … Me personally I want one-way sink data goes on the NAS … You can delete it off the phone or computer and that won’t transfer over…. They have improved the drive application but I still have to improve video photo and the other ones to be one way and for us to control the locations multiple or single nested location I don’t want to be told or you got to have it in the ” home /user /names/ photo/ to have the photo application work
NO I want to have it in plex media / photos/ cell phone 01/
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why do I need raid 1 on the ssd cache? It doesn’t matter if the data is gone on the cache if one ssd fails. The data is stored on the HDD after a Data is altered in the read/write cache. or is written again from the HDD when a new SSD is added. So that makes no sense. Raid 0 would be better in this case.
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My 215j is still working very well as a home server/backup. Don’t see any value in spending more money for new toy with same for my limited usage functions. Probably next time I buy cheaper DAS unit simply as a backup as never use at home various extensive Synology extra programs.
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What’s the language he talks? Seems close to English but I cannot get a word
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Yes this is a value NAS, but is a NAS needed by everybody? If you are in a business with a multi user environment a NAS can be very useful. The file access control of a NAS is rarely talked about. You really don’t want your receptionist having access to the files of your book keeper. A two bay NAS is aimed at the home user and not the business. Is the home user a multi user with needs for the file control that a business has? These NASs, especially 2 bay NASs seem to be marketed to people that really don’t need them and can save a lot of money. I can save a lot of money by buying something that has a lot of value or is on sale. I can save even more money if I don’t buy it at all if I don’t need it. I have no problem spending money for something that I need, I have a problem spending money for something that I don’t need.
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2GB RAM – good. 1Gbe in 2023 – NO
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Isn’t the 220+ a much better choice for just a couple more bucks?
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An you review G-STORY PS5 Cooling Fan ????
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I have a very old 2 bay Synology and I am looking to upgrade the DS223, can I just simply remove the HDDs from old and insert into the new and my data is intact?
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Would this work as just a plex server? I do not want to use my 920+ as it is running VM.
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this kind of NASses are good for Hyper backup vault destination Nas. The price is to high.
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Thks & DS223+ or bust thopugh
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when is it for sale?
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Is synology will release new version of 8 bay soon?
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Seems like a decent box as a value. Not sure how $250 fits in with other 2 bay offerings. Agree that the cpu and ports seem right on it.
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DS223+ might be the last hope for getting a intel NAS. But I doubt we’ll get it.
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I rather talk about affordable;
Where one is okay not to have topnotch thingies and (often) not have to pay thru the nose for it.
Synology is often perceived as the “Apple” for NAS, paying a lot of money for relatively not really top-notch hardware (but grand software, I even have to admit myself).
I guess Synology noticed the impact of today’s economic world too and wants to also have a good chunk of the market that is normally left to the other brands.
I for one welcome any healthy competition and kudos that customers now do have a choice!
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Cool
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Thanks!
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Thanks Rob! Looks like a good machine to backup a 4 bay 920+
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I thought the DS923+ already kicked off the Value Series. Question is: When does Synology release proper value devices like the DS920+ again ? 😉
You know with a proper CPU with integrated graphics
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Very expensive paper weight if you ask me ????
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I rather wait for the plus series. Hopefully they will have 10GbE or at least an option for that. Amount of RAM being variable is important to me. I have had a 214 for a very long time and that is not upgradable therefore I could not upgrade the DSM on 512Mb. I learned my lesson and for now on all my boxes will be plusses.
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Will Never buy below a Plus-Model again
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Just confirms that Synology are taking a “let them eat cake” attitude towards the home user…essentially Plex users. Time to look at other makes for good Plex use and transcoding. Unless they bring out a proper graphics capable CPU in a NAS soon
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1gb port that is where I stopped watching !!!
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Would you be better off getting a more advanced model that is 2 generations older? Maybe something like the DS-218+
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I wait for the DS123 🙂
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Beautiful piece of plastic. ????
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Can’t really see any benefit to upgrade from my 418.
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923+ even dosen’t have GPU and still use 1g ethernet port????
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Thank you for this Video!
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Funny how that Security Advisor isn’t barking at you for having the standard 5000 and 5001 ports in use. Mine’s been yelling at me 24/7 about it.
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That really is an in-depth and thorough review. I’ve had the DS1621+ for about a year and you’ve helped explain what some of the apps actually do. Thank you.
As a photographer using Lightroom to manage my my photos, I still cannot understand why I need Synology Photos or S Video to manage them?
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Thank you for the detailed review. I am interestedin buying a new Synology Nas (920+) and i own an old XP 32 bit PC do you think there will be any issues about compatibility from Win XP 32 bit to the DSM 7.1 Synology NAs, in that case does any workaround exist?
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I’m the one who watched the whole thing! And some bits twice. Very helpful in trying to decide between a Synology DS923+ and Qnap TS464. Synology seems to have the upper hand software-wise which I suspect carries more weight for a home user than the superior hardware of the Qnap? Thank you for providing this extensive review!
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Awsome information. Now please a similar video on Qnap. I cant make up my mind as I need both photo management and video surveillance. It seems like Qnap and Synology takes 1 point each.
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Jellyfin?!!! Most channels that review media server software, either only deep-dive their preferred offering, or only give an overview compression of the field. If someone like you, who can give the same enthusiasm creating two videos deep-diving two NASs that only differ by a drive bay, puts that into a spin-off series on a topic that is close to a large chunk of your demographic, that would be a real treat.
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Thks & I just watched it again & most excellent;
I’m a retired physicist & have no real problem understanding the infinite details.
However my problem is how to keep it simple & stupid (ex: high tier levels of simplicity, brevity, encapsulation, etc).
Oh with my goal is to sociably knit-together all my family, relatives, friends, etc on my synology NAS.
Unfortunately I’m going to be Mr Tech support for them. Sooooo I gots-tos keep-it-simple is an understatement & I will be abused (I says anything for family/friends though ;).
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I’m also only seeing 360. Can’t make out any screen. text
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You’re a DSM PhD;
I never hear so dense of a presentation of great DSM info & my head is still spinning, thks.
Next-time, you think about having something good to drink every-once in a-while.
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47:05 Where, When
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Still only 360p for me
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Still just in 360p
Hope it will fix soon.
Thx for all the effort!
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Watched you video from begin to end! Loved the deep dive into DSM, since I am looking into buying a new Synology. Keep up your amazing videos!
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Nice video. Does anyone know why my USB printer doesn’t work anymore on my Nas Synology ?
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Thanks for a great video. Really explains what everything is. Recently got my NAS and been already updating hard drives in it. It will mainly be used as a PLEX Server but already considering what i will do when i start upgrading the smaller drives in it. May consider another NAS and use it as strict data back up and maybe a synology Drive / synology Calendar and Email setup. Move my calendar off Google’s stuff. We will see If i do that at some point. Great job again
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Thank you for all the work you put into this. Very helpful.
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My English man!!! What a video! Greetings from Greece! I really appreciate your hard work and that content. I have a DS 1520 + and I am not regretting getting it although the new 1522 is out. You have my admiration. Keep up the professional and good work.
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Why only 360p is showing ????
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Would it be too much to expect something similar for QTS?
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Why 360p? Can’t see it clearly.
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Wow ! What an episode – a full tutorial for everything ! A one stop shop – Thanx Robbie ‘ol mate !
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Yes was wondering why its. 360p till saw the comments
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*Note* – Regarding picture quality, this is a BIG video (so many features to cover in a single video) and YouTue can sometimes be a little slow to process HD and 4K uploads, so if this video is in low-quality for you, maybe come back in an hour or so, as YouTube should have finished processing it and have the 4K, 1080p and 720p versions done. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy the review of Synology DSM 7.1, featuring the DS923+ NAS.
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When does Synology typically drop new hardware? I’m desperately in need of upgrading, and I’ve been looking at the DS1621xs+ to replace my aging and now almost full DS1513+, but I don’t want to buy 2 year old out of date hardware just to have them release something new and improved 2 weeks later.
Do they have traditional dates for new hardware like say Apple?
Depending on the price delta, I might consider the 1823xs+ you mentioned in the video, if they’re not likely to update the 1621xs+ soon.
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My prediction:
The j, value and play series (if it doesn’t disappear) will mount ARM Realtek RTD1619 processors with 1Gb ethernet.
J series with 1Gb, play series with 2Gb and value series with 4Gb (this is the maximum available for this CPU).
The plus series will have x86 AMD Ryzen R1600 processors with upgradable memory.
The first NAS could be released will be the ds223 and ds423
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I’m not hearing anything regarding the possibility of a new DVAXX23 system. Are there any thoughts on that possibility?
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I think ed should talk more and the main guy should sync his microphone volume with ed so i dont keep having to put the voulme down every time he talks .
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I was surprised at how highly you two spoke of the arm processors in the 223j. My first nas was a 220j and it was terribly underwhelming in performance. Maybe it was the 512MB of Ram, but it absolutely failed miserably when I tried running multiple applications especially when I was uploading photos and videos from my phone to photo station would make the system completely unusable for anything else as it tried to process the files and index them. I tolerated it for a few months then upgraded to the DS920+ and I LOVE it. It does everything I ask of it with ease.
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RT1619b boxes will use Linux kernel 5 (5.10.55) as well.
Will be interesting to if there will be Wireguard support (included in the Kernel since v5.6).
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If 1 bay NAS has new model in 2023, will it be start of 2023?
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Btw. according to the source code packages, the EPYCs will – finally – use Linux kernel v5. Unfortunately, in classic Synology fashion, an older version missing some AMD and/or EPYC optimizations.
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I want to move away from iCloud for photo and video storage. Should I get the 2-bay Synology DS220+ or wait for something else to come out this year?
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Cheers Robbie – Thanks for the news.
Anything in the works for playing DTS audio codec support yet ?
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2.5GBE! LET’S GO
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Do you think we’ll get an upgrade to the DS 620 slim
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I bought DS1621xs+ just a year ago. With all the functionality it does, I do not think I will upgrade to DS1823xs+ when it comes out as all specifications you had put it. As long as Synology sorts out the HDD brand compatibility list for using other brands in their sets, I would refuse to jump into the trap.
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I am just waiting for a Synology with ARM-processor in a DS15xx-series, guess I can live with my DS918 a couple more years since 1GBit is ok for me so far (just photo editing from my client and store data there).
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Will Synology release any NAS’es with the mainstream Intel Core/AMD Ryzen processors? I love the new QNAPs, with the Intel 12th Gen, purely for the 12th Gen’s QuickSync capabilities with Plex. Unfortunately Plex doesn’t support AMD hardware transcoding, otherwise I’d definitely get some sweet, efficient and powerful Zen3/4 one. I’m also thinking of building my DIY NAS with TrueNAS or UNRAID, but it’s really hard to find a modern Mini-ITX motherboard with 4+ SATA ports and a minimum of 2.5GBe ethernet so, QNAP’s 12th Gen Intel solutions look perfect at the moment
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Funny how Eddie sometimes makes faces while listening to Robbie as if to say…nah, he really talks too much and too fast…
And for crying out loud Robbie…. it’s not Ryzon. It’s Ryzen. Zen. Get it.?
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Thanks for the video, and no thanks youtube for not notifying me again!
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I know this might be a strange question, but has someone ever tried to use 4x 100TB Nimbus Data drives in a 4 bay Synology or Qnap? I know this seems to be complete nuts but from the technical point of view, would that even work?
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Synology it’s an mess, on one side dismiss surveillance market without an competitive product with user diy DVA (enable user to add Nvidia GPU or USB m.2 you) and that insanity about “blessed hard drives’, meanwhile no nvme-only Nas no compact pro-sumer units as an all flash successor for desktop FS1018 , and while at last they offer WiFi 6 router’s Asus (reference Brand for good routers) sells a bunch of WiFi 6e with powerful opensource o more featured and even slightly cheaper. I’m quite disappointed and bet no single cent on Synology future.
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Would love to see something similar for QNAP
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Hey, gr8 content. Thank you.
How long it takes for you to respond to my quotation concering nas?
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ha ha ha “the 1522 did a great job of selling 920s”
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The move to AMD has been on the cards for years.
Intel manufacturing has been off the ball for years. Their atom road map has been underwhelming.
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Any information on DS1823+? I have been waiting for months before pulling trigger on DS1821+.
Will it be replaced by DS1823XS+?
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How can I reach you? @NASCompares
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Respectfully disagree with your ‘gut’ assessment of AMD vs Intel. Right now, AMD chips provide the same performance for lower power consumption. Look at the data.
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Straight off the bat guys, I apologise for the ‘humming’ sound in this vid. Trying to sync mine and Eddie’s sound proved 10x harder than it should have been and in the end the balance of the audio was leveraged more towards Eddie (as I am always the louder/noisier/more-annoying one!). Sorry if this makes it tough to listen to at points (particularly when I go a bit ‘high’! Have a great weekend everyone!
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This post has been updated with new information regarding the CPU that is almost certain to be featured on the Synology Value series of Diskstation NAS (obtained from official sources) – 01/09/22
July 2022, last 6 months of the year and still waiting to take the plunge on a 4 bay.
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Still no DS922+ as of July 2022, was hoping for a decend quad/octa core processor, at least 16GB+ memory upgradable, M.2 slotting and of course 2.5GBe to 10GBe ports.
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I would like to see some internal storage on all Synology NAS’s to download dsm too . Seems a bit odd to me that you have to use party of the hard drives to load it on to????
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Are they going to release anything anytime soon cause I’ve been holding off and need to figure this out this year.
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And still no I5/I7 processors.
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Hey everyone! There have been several big bits of Synology NAS hardware information revealed this month (about 7 big chunks of information really) that I have added to the big, BIG listed in the link below. Head there for much, much more recent information on the latest Synology 2022 hardware releases that are in the works – https://nascompares.com/news/synology-2022-nas-hardware-what-to-expect-in-2022/
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The main problem for me is the ability (or the lack of it) to upgrade a NAS and just put in the old HDDs. I have DS414 from the late 2013 and I really want to step up to the new plus series be it DS422+ or DS922 or something but as far as I understood from Synology website I won’t be able to upgrade from Value series to Plus and beyond, Only the new Value series is eligible. So if the new Value series gets 2.5 GbE it will be fine but if not… it will be a problem.
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Socket FCBGA1493 (2.5Gbe, Q1’21). So, N6211 for ds222+ and J6413 for ds722+. Maybe.
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I want to switch to synology from qnap. But the lack of 2.5 GbE on DS920+ alike and priced devices makes this a no-go atm. Qnap has 2x 2.5 GbE :/ Also having 8 GB RAM max is quite low. My very old QNAP 2 bay runs with 16 …
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So, at this point, getting my first NAS, should I wait for the 922+ to hit the market or go ahead and get a 920+ ?
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A 10 GbE usb adapter for my DS1520+
would be nice.
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Worked my way through getting a VM running with Home Assistant, then getting Blue Iris to connect… no easy task. Go to add a Zigbee dongle to find out that Synology dropped support on most devices, less USB storage drives, in DSM 7.0. Hit a dead end. Will need to find another home for Home Assistant on another system. When a company simply drops support for something like this it tells me that they will have no problem dropping support for other things in the future. Accordingly… my confidence level also drops. They can keep singing that song about all the great things you can do with your Synology NAS… but, my NAS will not be the first thing I think of when I need to create a solution in the future. It can stay being a file server… that is unless they drop support for that too.
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10 GBe or nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What gbe port will dva1622 have?
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I really hope Eddie is right that they won’t push their ridiculous drive-lock further down the range. It would certainly mean that a lot of their customers (me included) would be gone. Also plenty of IT professionals have called BS on the whole drive-lock in the first place citing other big enterprise OEMs having plenty of different drive manufacturers supported.
Also 2.5G+ support on the next generation across the board or f*** off Synology.
Oh and also nerfing their RAID calculator to only go up to 16 TB (incidentally the largest drive they themselves offer atm) is a pretty weak move.
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Hi, always enjoy your videos… I would like to buy a Synology and use Seagate Exos X18 18TB drives. I can deal with no Synology Tech support on these HDDs ( not on the list ) but really don’t want to buy 4 of these only to find that they dont work. Have you ever tried these on a Synology? Is there any architectural line that is crossed going beyond 16TB drives? Would you consider doing a video on using 18TB and beyond on Synology? Anyone out there have experience with these drives? Thanks!
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very well prepared questions but the guy from Synology was clueless and maybe not the one who can answer such questions. Still – using NAS for any non-LAN use is calling for a hack anyday. Even DSM should have changed ports and be restricted to trusted IP/MAC. I got customers hacked using Quickconnect, and QNAPs are hacked basicly like there was no security at all. Thank you for content.
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Should i buy DS920+ or should i wait ?!
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Could you make a video on how to install the Davinci Resolve Project server on the Synology NAS?
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I got in the game with the DS110J. At the time it was great, and I miss features like one touch USBCOPY and the ability to add WiFi with a USB adapter.
Synology missed a chance to tap into the NVR market by overvaluing Surveillance Station Camera licenses.
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I’m hoping they soon will allow NVMe SSDs for the system drive! I’ve hacked this now so my Apps/Containers run from the SSD, and it runs great! The temperature on the NVMe is only 5 degress Celcius higher than the HDDs, and it has no cooling. So I don’t believe the official statements that they won’t do this due to temperature concerns.
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When Synology made its move into the higher / enterprise market with the all-flash storage FS3017 they made a big deal over the total cost of ownership over the assumed 4-year working life. That 4 year period ended a couple of months ago – so now a reflective moment on their bold statement of ‘no vendor lock-in’ and cheaper SSDs. Even the marketing and product displays had in bold font on the front:
‘Pick either high-end SAS SSD or more mainstream SATA SSD to avoid vendor lock-in’
Now those same customers are being told that they cannot use their very expensive drives in the latest Synology equipment. The total cost of Synology ownership has ballooned and Synology has lost the brave customers that were early adopters of their higher-end series.
At the lower end, I own a ’21+ series for home use and it already has a vendor lock for RAM and now includes a warning when non-Synology drives are used. Again, that is a plus series only and the drive warning only came about with the update to DSM7 – a ‘soft’ lock-in that appeared months after purchase!
I find it hard to believe that Synology will launch new plus series without vendor locks – otherwise they will split the model line. It is madness but they are on the crazy train.
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Re “Synology Hard Drives and Drive Locking”: Maybe they promised not to push it beyong XS/XS+ Series. BUT THEY DID! The morons haven’t exactly locked them out. But even though I’ve written to them 3 times, asking them to include Seagate EXOS disks on the compatibility list – they still haven’t. So my DS2422+ cries “WOLF” all the time, by showing my Storage as Critical even though it’s not.
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as a decade long Synology user, I now hope QNAPS starts to implement some sort of SHR-2
QHR-2???? Qunology Hybrid Raid
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2.5gbe will be outdated and it has to be particular specific bay type. Say 2-bay it might make sense. But for the 4 bay then it can hit 800MB/s upward if all on raid-0 so the interface cant be limited to 4 bay . It has to be capable so 4 bay should have 2 5-gig or 10gig ethernet. and with 6 or higher bay then atleast 10gig and 5g multi gig. and 12 upwards minimum 2x 10gig
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I’ve been holding off from buying my first NAS from 2 years already waiting for this God damn 2.5Gbe. These Synologies cost way too much to feature 1Gbe only! …in 2022!
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That intro,…..now how much would you pay???
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You still havnt gotten that guy a decent mic. Dont you hear the world of differences between your mic and his … even considering your recording locally, and he is compressed by the bandwidth limits? Its still obvious.
I lasted 5 minutes, and left because I couldnt understand what he was saying, and was annoyed by it.
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If they lock proprietary hdd I am done with synology
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The bare minimum would be for the 722+/922+/1522+ models must have 2.5gbe. Synology can’t wait for the 2024 plus models without losing market share and major laughing stock.
I hope the disk lock doesn’t spread, I got my DS920+ just in case the disk lock spread. I can keep this unit for ~6 years and pray Synology reverses that idea. Then I can get a 2026 Synology or something else if the drive lock spreads.
Synology has to release a 20TB *Toshiba MG* HDD, but you scare me talking about Synology expanding to their drives to relabeled Toshiba N300 drives for the base models. It makes sense Synology would get better prices if they bought more drives, but scares the end user if they have the ability to offer that. LTT was just talking about the $20 price difference between 20TB Seagate EXOS vs IronWolf, what’s the point? I don’t mind buying Synology drives if the price is competitive, but they don’t have the inventory availability for repairing crashed systems ASAP.
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Virtualisation is still my main concern with synology.
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I’m against this lock-in of only certain hard drives to get support.
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Thank you for sharing!
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I’m considering the synology DS920+, the Qnap TS-453D or the Asustor Lockerstor 4. And it’s that classic dilemma of hardware vs software priorities. I was leaning towards the Asustor as it has the benfits of the M.2 caching and 2.5GbE but now wonder if I should hold fire and see if synology deliver something that matches the Asustor?
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I’m hoping there’s better availability for an update plus series. The price of the DS920+ has gone up rather than down over its lifetime. I really want at least 2.5Gbe amd I’ll be happy.
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Hard drive lock ? That sort of proprietary nonsense went out with the dinosaurs
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Non-Synology branded Hard drive lock out is freaking annoying
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Synology 8 bay NAS with at least 2.5GbE and decent cpu for Plex transcoding and I would consider an upgrade from my 5 bay DS1019+
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I wouldn’t be as repulsed by hard drive locks if their drives where priced competitively. But they absolutely are not.
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Do the prices of previous generations drop on release of the new stock? I was going to buy the 1621+ but if I can save a couple of 100 I’ll wait
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Do you think that Drive Locking is a software or a hardware thing? If it is software, maybe, in the future, we will see an update that unlock it….
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Waiting for DS222j… covered in cobwebs at this stage 🙂
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