Your Synology NAS Setup and Extras

Synology DS1823xs+ NAS

If you are looking for a solid and confident move away from expensive long-term cloud subscription services, away from your defunct Drobo system or simply looking for a Synology NAS that has good hardware inside, outside and with DSM all over it – the DS1823xs+ NAS is a very solid choice indeed! With a huge degree of expandability and upgradability open to the end user to scale with later in the system’s life, extensive long-term committed software support and that 5yrs hardware warranty out the box – this is a system that is clearly designed for the long-haul and as soon as you factor in the complete hardware+software nature of this purchase with DSM included, it’s a very tasty box! There are a few odd choices here or there (e.g M.2 NVMe Pools not presented in the way some might like and HDD/SSD compatibility that clearly favours the enterprise tier), this is still easily the most powerful and capable 8-Bay system that Synology has ever produced. Whether you are a small, medium or large business user, this system has a large amount of potential for your data and has the horsepower for multiple VMs, large-scale surveillance, widespread backups, broad multi-user access and all of these running at the same time in a remarkably compact package. That said, the DS1823xs+ NAS has a little bit of an identity crisis when you scale it up with the rest of the larger tiers of the Synology portfolio and, although I genuinely like it, seems to be a system that exists BETWEEN the Synology PLUS and XS series (see my points about the RS2423+) and when you look at it in that context, it sees the tiniest bit more expensive than it should be. If you are looking at the DS1823xs+ NAS and fully intend to scale up the storage, external bandwidth or memory in the next two years, I would recommend skipping this and opting for the DS3622xs+ instead. However, the base model of the DS1823xs+ has alot of ‘umpf’ under the bonnet and short of those hurdles for some on compatibility, the DS1823xs+ seemingly lives up to alot of it’s expectations!

Amazon – HERE (U.S) – HERE (UK) – HERE (DE)

Reference: VIDEO Review – Written Review

Synology DS3622xs+ NAS

Unsurprisingly, the Synology DS3622xs+ is by FAR the most powerful and capable desktop NAS solution that the brand has ever produced – and that is not even a close-run thing. But we are still talking about a £2,500 box here (unpopulated) and you are going to expect that there is some serious horsepower here – So are you getting the most for your money here? Almost completely, yes. There are a few lingering things that some buyers will still not be in love with, such as the lack of M.2 caching bays, the lack of SAS support or the reduced support of 3rd party drive and network upgrade compatibility, but they do not undercut that this is a genuinely groundbreaking solution from Synology that provides the ultimate base to enjoy and make the most of the Synology DSM 7 platform in 2022 onwards. Once you breakdown everything included in this package, from DSMs software and services, to the tremendous bandwidth available here internally and externally, this compact tank-like NAS server is an absolute beast and a must for those that are keen on fully integrating a private cloud network and subscription-free SaaS-level setup across their company.

Amazon – HERE (U.S) – HERE (UK) – HERE (DE)

Reference: VIDEO Review – Written Review

Synology 18TB NAS HDDs (HAT5300)

When Synology first announced that it was entering the hard drive market, I think it would be fair to say that reactions were mixed. On the face of it, the idea that one of the biggest brands in network-attached storage (NAS) was going to start producing their own branded hard disk media makes a lot of sense. They already have an established portfolio of server hardware, memory upgrades, network interface upgrades and recently added solid-state drives for storage and caching. Therefore the move from this brand into offering their own media was largely inevitable. Add to this that the standard of hardware featured in the HAT5300 hard drives is comparatively higher than those on offer from WD and Seagate at a similar price point and you can see why there was plenty of reasons for initial positivity in the release of the Synology HDD series. However it would be remiss not to also highlight that moves by the brand for drive exclusivity in enterprise tiers of the latest generation of hardware, alongside their media being destined for exclusive use in their own now systems, and there was most certainly a feeling of disquiet amongst some long time Synology NAS users. Today we want to take a closer look at the Synology hard drives, a good look at the specifications inside and get a better understanding of the performance they provide, both in and outside of Synology NAS systems. Let’s get started and find out whether the Synology HAT5300 range deserves your data.

Amazon – HERE (U.S) – HERE (UK) – HERE (DE)

Reference: VIDEO Review – Written Review

Synology SNV3410-800G 800GB (1TB OP) SSD

The Synology NVMe SSD range (3400 and 3500) is a justified move from a brand that knows exactly what it is and does not try to make promises it cannot back up. Right the way back in March when we first learnt about their move into SSD, it was always going to be clear that Synology was making this NVMe SSD for use in their systems for intelligent caching. With an ever-growing focus on the use of intelligent caching in their newer 2020/2021 generation of devices, as well as big improvements in the algorithms used in background caching of DSM 7.0 later this year, Synology are making a bold but understandable move here. The NVMe drive itself seemingly leverages in favour of Read over Write, but that is very much the order of the day for users who have maintained increased storage over time, but a decrease on a performance that comes with the holding of data. The range is in its infancy in terms of the capacity portfolio (with a stronger line up apparent in the 2.5″SATA-5200 SATA series) but I can applaud what Synology is doing here. I just hope it does not come at the expense of support of other drives in their prosumer and SMB ranges in terms of compatibility. Overall – I like it!

Amazon – HERE (U.S) – HERE (UK) – HERE (DE)

Reference: VIDEO Review – Written Review

Optional Extras (Down the Line):

Synology E10G30-T2 2x 10GbE Card – HERE

Synology E25G21-F2 2x 25GbE Card (bit overkill for your needs, but certainly future proof – do factor in transceivers and cables later!) – HERE

GL.iNet GL-MT3000 (Beryl AX) Mobile Router – HERE

HOWEVER, as discussed, I would hold out for official launch and availability of this follow up model, the Puli AX, HERE

 

Synology Setup Guides for 2024

As previously discussed, I am currently still working my way through a 2024 version of the setup guides that I publish every 2-2.5 years. Please find unlisted links below. In the next couple of weeks, these will have titles, chapters, and improvements in the presentation. However, I thought you might find early access to them useful during your initial setup. Aside from the Surveillance setup (currently  in progress/filming) this should cover everything:

Early Access Synology NAS Setup Guide 1 2024 – HERE

Early Access Synology NAS Setup Guide 2 2024 – HERE

Synology NAS Setup Guide 3 2024 – HERE

Early Access Synology NAS Setup Guide 4 2024 – HERE

Early Access Synology NAS Setup Guide 5 2024 – HERE

(Early Access) Synology NAS Setup Guide 6 2024 – HERE

(Early Access) Synology NAS Setup Guide 7 2024 – HERE

 

 



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      187 thoughts on “Your Synology NAS Setup and Extras”

      1. I wont buy a new Synology system as I have a lot of existing drives that I spent thousands of dollars on and if I cannot just move them over I am not buying the unit
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      2. I am searching for a replacement of my years-old ReadyNAS. Thanks for this video and your clear words. It saves me for spending much money on the wrong product. Still, in Jan 2024 there are just Synology-HDDs on the compatibility list. A 18TB-Synology-HD will cost 700EUR, a WD 18TB will cost around 310EUR.???? There is no way for me to spend my money on Synology, regardless how good the other features are. ????
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      4. I mean, who wouldn’t want to spend an extra ~$270 each (at just $600 each on Amazon!)on Synology branded 16 TB drives (x8, totaling just an extra $2160 more if stuffing it full of Synology drives instead of primitive WD Golds, etc… This policy should massively affect sales for home/pro-sumer use. (O(r pro-schumer as Brits and Aussies sometimes pronounce it!)
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      8. I’m only 7.11 into your review and something that hit me was your concern over no front access to USB port, my question would simply be :who says that has to be the front facing “face”, why do you need to be seeing that ; just turn it 180′ and have the ‘back’ as the front where you can get to all the ports……. I will now continue to watch your complete review.
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      11. Is the ten gige port actually multi-gige 2.5/5/10? The other pci card they sell is multi gige.. this would save $ not buying for other model.????
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      12. I am looking to go for this nas. The problem is that in my home I don’t hame a 10gb network. I can buy I 10gbe switch but the cabling I already have going through my walls is very difficult to change. Is the cabling going to be a huge bottleneck for the 10gbe. Is there a reason for me to change to a 10gbe switch without changing the cables? Am I going to get any benefits by doing so, even if I would not be able to reach 10gbe?
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      14. So if I have an SHR partition on my current system, can I buy this and swap my drives or will it not be able to read off my current SHR raid setup?
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      16. May be u can combine them and connect the usb 3.2 gen 1 ports 10gbs to wifi or Bluetooth. As a separate way of communication with host and the comport, maybe for a.i.
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      17. So… 800€ more than the ds1821+, no SHR, higher TDP CPU with minor processing improvements, still no gpu, short hardware compatibility list and 2x more expensive Synology drives. 10Gbe interface which can be replicated on the ds1821+ for 50 bucks (compatible Intel card).
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      20. Just pray you don’t end up with a bricked unit like my old DS2415+ with the flashing ‘alert’ and power LEDs. Fixed I’m sure for this newer unit but the customer support to fix is a nightmare. My unit lasted 6 years. Learned the lesson that you need a backup to your backup. Sheesh.
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      22. I currently have a DS1019+ which in which I have 5 drives installed. 3-10TB, 1-12TB, 1-14TB.. I know this is using SHR and that the xs+ line does not allow you to “create” SHR volumes, however I have been told I can move my SHR volume to the DS1823XS+. My question relates to Plex, how does the 1823xs+ work with PLEX? I currently use the NVIDIA shield as the client to view MPEG movies I have stored on my NAS. Will it still work on the 1823xs+ and how would performance compare to the DS1019+.
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      23. my first NAS was a Drobo, it had a volume limit of 16 TB , when 4TB+ disks arrived it quickly became outdated. now so many synology products, even 12 bay ones have 108 volume limit. now with 18TB + and higher disks its really becoming a bottleneck
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      25. Why did it take them this long to make this? Is it really that hard for a big company that does that for a living? And why is it lacking one of its main functionality that everyone mentiones? Did they forgot? Are they incompetent? Is it on purpose?
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      27. I’m so frustrated how they have basically no options for 6+ bay that are good for transcoding. I like to use mine for a multitude of functions but transcoding large video files is one of them and Synology falls flat on all their offerings unless you want a 4 bay. Qnapp it is which sucks since I have purchased many add ons, software and know their OS well. Come on, Synology!
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      31. I hate that synology sets these bonkers restrictions on their devices and also the restrictions can seriously vary from device to device. They are shooting themselves in the foot because of this dumb decision
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      34. The only thing I use a Synology for is photo backup at home (in addition to the cloud). Is a system like this more than needed? Already have a 1819+. Thanks.
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      35. I’m in disbelief that this new NAS does not support SHR (Synology Hybrid Raid). I was excited to buy this new model DS1823xs+ but then discovering it does does not include all drive formats, as simplistic as SHR. It should be compatible for all formatted drives. So migrating my system from an old NAS with SHR to this one is not possible? I have to completely rebuild from a new NAS? That’s inexcusable for Synology. I can live with the shift to only supporting their own HDD and even SATA only, but how many older Synology NAS owners that want a seamless migration to a new NAS is Synology alienating with this move? I hope it comes on a future update, because that is ridiculous.
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      36. Is there a way to access the download log of Synology Photos when an album is shared? Has this feature been removed altogether or move to the general log application? This very handy feature existed in DS Photo and I have not been able to find something equivalent in DSM 7.
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      40. My god. Synology I pay for C2. Bought the SV3400 to use with the DS3018XS and E10M20-T1. I can’t use it. Only the 3500. Makes no sense they are restricting and forgot they own NVME. I was able to use a sabrant. LOL. I’m on the 4th sonolenta. But it’s becoming bitter. I’m happily paying for their services but looking to leaving just because the hardware is aways underpowered and now become restricted.
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      42. Drobo was so easy. I have the 8 bay N. And an 8 bay D. And two 5 bay Drobo.

        One of the 5 bays died and I’m confident I can get the info off it using the one that is working. So I’m trying to find an 8 bay to start moving away from Drobo.

        This looked great. It’s just barely affordable for me until I looked at the prices of the synology drives. And if I’m understanding raid correctly I’ve got to have all the drives up front.

        I guess the 1812+ is what I need. I just didn’t want to buy something 2 years old.
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      47. Great video! I am thinking of getting a nas for editing and video work and would love to be able to hook up 10g to both my mac and pc. Is there a way to format/setup the raid so that I can access the same video files with both mac and pc? I tried searching but and a little lost of what the best option would be. Thanks!!!
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      48. Not Intel. So no transcoding. It’s almost the primary reason I have a NAS. I’ll keep my old Synology for files, but will one day get a new QNAP for my media.
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      54. Wished I’d not purchased the QNAP TS-873A tbh.
        Had it two months and might ditch it for a Synology unit. Not this unit due to the drive limitations.
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      55. I just want to say thank you so much I have watched many videos of you in the recent time and decided to get a second hand DS918+, it’s user friendly, cheap, has integrated graphics and is plenty powerful for my usecase. Keep up the good work you help a lot of people with your knowledge and tips and tricks.
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      56. I wonder if Synology, going the AMD route, will ever throw a Threadripper in their high end lineup.
        It would probably be too expensive for be ”just a NAS”.
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      58. There’s irony insofar that Syno’s SSD-10GbE combo card itself acts as a heatsink for drives put on it… that are then nerfed out of use because… Synology doing Synology things.
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      59. Great work keep it up.

        The lagging of the OS and subsequent apologising about it really irritated me. Just like lagging does on my own PC. Next time maybe have a few VM’s disabled for the rest of the demos.
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      61. I agree, the chassis is solid. I recently purchased my first Synology, a DS1821+ using the same chassis and it is nice to see metal cases still on the market in a world of plastic housings.
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      62. OK, I personally work for Syno, so I know this system couple months:) but man you’re talking about NAS servers with such passion, that I really enjoyed this review.
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      65. Great video as always. I suspect the reason the add-on PCIe card doesn’t support 10 GBe + SSD is a lack of available PCIe lanes. That’s probably also the reason that the internal SSDs are limited to 1000MB/s.
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      68. I agree: the 6bay wasn’t truly big enough for RAID6 and consider a hot spare if the support individual is off-site. 8bay has the capacity to still be respectable after set-up.
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      69. Re : the missing SHR. I can see a new service / sale opportunity for you to provide Robbie. Selling sets of drives that you have setup with SHR that you can populate DS1823xs+ ‘s with when you sell them. Configure the drives with ShR in another Synology NAS and migrate them before shipping.
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      71. Blimey i just ordered the 821+ for £999. so need to know is this better ?? And wnat a mix of drives 4x18tb and 4×12
        ( comjng from drobo 8d)
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      72. I was looking at this as a replacement for my DS1817+, but no SHR? No 3rd party HDD? No thanks. I’ll hope the upgrade to the currently selling DS1821+ comes before the end of the year and with a decent processor. The 1821+ could barely be called an “upgrade” to my 1817 as it is now.
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      74. Instead of buying one DS1823xs for ~1800$, it might be better to buy two DS923+ with two 10gb cards for a total of 1500$.
        It gives a total of 4 NVME SSDs, additional redundancy, less cost and same ability to add 2 drive expansions.
        Speaking about expansions which costs 500$, does not includes CPU, memory and so on, again it might be resonable to buy a whole new additional DS923+ for a 600$ (only 100$ more).
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      78. I still rock my DS1517+. I’m due for an update since it cannot andle 4k transcoding. Wonder if they will eventually released a DS1523+ not AMD base so I can transcode.
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      79. As a Drobo 5D3 user. I am going to suggest that a NAS is not exactly a “replacement”
        Additionally neither is the Thunderbay 8 that OWC produces.
        What I have ended up doing as a stop-gap measure is purchase a basment level NAS from Synology 220j ($115) and pop a pair of 18TB drives in it for my Video’s.
        and I went for the Ugreen 5 bay RAID box ($120) and reused my 5 10TB drives I had in my Drobo.

        Neither one is a speed demon but it allows me to not have to buy all new Hard Drives and gives me the reliability I had with Drobo
        (My drobo has survived for 10 years and I am hopeful Drobo will at some point return to the market)
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      80. Thank you very much Rob for doing a great job. Thank you very much for treating these really well thought through videos. Appreciate your opinion. Love, Greg
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      85. *Note* – A couple of bits of housekeeping. First up, I know this is a LOOOOOOONG video. The much, MUCH shorter ‘Before You Buy’ video will be live next week, but I wanted to get the massive Hardware and Software review live first. In the 2-3 weeks I will be publishing the 10GbE performance testing, VM testing, Plex Tests and more, but rather than make this video even longer and make you guys wait, I have moved these to their own videos as usual. Last thing, I had a rotten cold when I was filming the software portion of this video and you can DEFINITELY tell. Apologies for sounding ‘flurgy’ at points. Have a fantastic weekend and the written review of the DS1823xs+ NAS will be live on NASCompares later today.
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      88. I was in it for the long haul but as soon as you mentioned Synology only allows you to use their hard drives, i am out. Gonna look for alternatives, Thanks for the info.
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      89. Only Synology Drives? That means, it is not possible to use 12x 20TB HDs from WD or Seagate? Or it ist possible but i have to life with error messages in the OS?
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      90. I understand the focus is on views but this is an extremely valuable and underrated series that I hope to hear from you. Been a year and seems like this is all there is to SNV4310 in ALL OF YOUTUBE. All the best!
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      92. Hi, would you mind sharing the ‘lspci -tvnn’ results for the DS3622xs+ from the terminal interface, I would like to do some research but lack the data. thanks.
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      95. Synology HHD are just relabeled Toshiba N300, it’s really bad business to force their drives. They don’t have enough stock of drives out to retailers for this to work. They might get sloppy/lazy and forget to cover the Toshiba stickers! ????????

        USB printers are laughable, anyone with a new Synology most likely has a modern network printer. Most of my family/friends who don’t have a NAS have a dumb WiFi printer that loses connection. But us Synology users already ran multiple CAT6 connections to the Disk-Station and out to POE cameras, just 1 more CAT6 for the printer isn’t a problem. I prefer my desktop as a network terminal and it has its own ACP 620 UPS, while the rack and Synology has a CyberPower 1500. That’s a lot of network infrastructure we’ve all done to be using a USB printer.
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      103. Love your reviews. Always so detailed. Although this unit is very powerful you pretty much sold me on NOT buying it. Too many insulating and cheap things they did for such a powerful unit. No SHR, limiting hard drive choices, EOL CPU. I counted over 14 items you were not so happy with or did not understand why Synology did it and i agree with all of them. Even being so cheap as to not have something as low cost as a CAT 6 cable, considering it will cost me 3000.00 for this unit was insulting. Don’t get me wrong i do like their products but they went a bit to far on this one for me. Cheers !!
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      109. I am 73 so I am Home Alone quite a bit. Not a fan of proprietary products but if it help the equipment to Die Hard then it might be worth it.

        I like the Synology NAS servers but truthfully a bit expensive for an old dude that lives on Social Security
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      116. Amazing video/review, as usually!!! Just an observation: on Synology page is written than Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC310 is compatible. More than that, on Specs page, it is written than “It is strongly RECOMMENDED that you only install drives listed on your device’s compatibility list”. Does this means that can be used with other HDD? Maybe, in the future, they will add other compatible HDD, too??? It will be interesting if you can test DS3622xs+ with Seagate or other type of HDD to see if it works.
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      118. I almost died hard when I heard about the lock-in of hardware. Thankfully I wasn’t home alone if anything would’ve happened.
        Happy with my new 1821+ with a 970Pro NVMe as system drive for Apps and containers, and maybe some VMs down the line.
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      122. I have a Synology DS3617xs Nas with a 12-bay Expansion Unit dx1215 attached with different brand hard drives in raid 6. I installed the synology 10GB port. Are you 100% sure they lock out the other brands for this Nas in your video? That’s HORRIBLE! I see the compatible list from the website but that’s just because they tested those drives and KNOW they work and are 100% compatible. You can still install what you want but they won’t know how well they work. Are you SURE they block other brands? Only problem with my current NAS is the soldered cpu shows it’s age.
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      123. So if I migrate my 6 WD drives from my 1621, they should work. But what about the 6 additional bays? Will I be able to expand the array using WD or will I have to settle for Syno drives moving forward?
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      125. I have a DS3615xs. Same build as this DS3622xs+. I have 10 x WD white label 12TB drives (and 2 x 2TB SATA SSDs) inside. The device is very quiet. I sleep within four feet of the thing. YMMV.
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      126. While I’m normally a pretty die hard Synology fan, if the idea that only Synology HDDs are accepted were to spread to their entry- and pro-sumer lines, I think it would push me to switch to a custom build with open source software, such as Unraid.

        Either way, thank you for these highly detailed videos!!
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      127. I’m a “Die Hard” Western Digital Gold fan, so i assume the 3622xs+ is going to be a no go for me, let’s hope the 2422+ is not going to force me to stay “Home Alone” by locking out my WD GOLDs or Ultrastars.
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      136. I hope my 920+ doesn’t ‘’Die Hard’ because I need to keep it as a back up for my main NAS which will be a faster cpu equivalent in the next 24 months. Primary purpose is Plex, surveillance and photos/vids.
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      142. Great review and can’t agree more. The DS1821+ provides best flexibility with built in NVMe and also SHR. Really bugs me that on the high end devices they leave out these features. As a home ProSumer I will never buy (12) 18 TB drives at one time but I’ve rather course of a year I can slowly upgrade a drive at a time and grow my pool. Poor efforts Synology.
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      143. I seriously doubt Synology MAKES drives! What they do is buy others and sell them for MORE $$$! A chassis with this number of bays makes that unit markup onerous.
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      151. The USB ports are 3.2 Gen 1 due to chipset limitations. The Xeon CPU is a Broadwell part, and 5Gbps is the best you’ll get with Broadwell. That’s the peril of using a CPU launched in 2015. That Xeon does have 32 PCI-E lanes but the internal array and mini-SAS ports may well be using 24 of those. Should be possible to work out that based on max bandwidth.

        By the way, out of band (not bounds!) management is all about remote diagnostics and control. For example, you can power the system on (or off) remotely via the OOB connection. Its a common feature on Enterprise-level hardware. Serial console connection fits into the same category, particularly for Enterprise Unix/Linux systems – they’re used for diagnosing when the full system won’t boot. I’ve had occasion to use them a few times over the years, but the OOB feature makes it all but redundant.

        This was so nearly a slam dunk for me – I’ve been waiting for the DS3617xs+ replacement for what seems like forever, but the vendor lock-in is a deal-breaker for me. They may well be awesome drives, memory etc., but going down that road is just asking for trouble, whether that’s with price gouging or whatever, so just like Dragons’ Den, I’m out. I’m not at all bothered about lack of SHR (I’ve got that feature on my current NAS but have never used it).

        I missed the Home Alone reference (despite watching twice, so thanks to the other commenters) but spotted the presumably unintentional reference to Die Hard. Both Christmas classics.
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      157. man locking out other HDD brands is so shit was thinking of maybe getting Synology 12 bay. In my country Synology drives are like double the price of Ultrastars too, so yeah i don’t think so
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      160. So, you’re not supported if you use Ironwolf Pro drives? So,what happens if you need to replace a drive after a failure? Do retailers have stacks of Synology drives sitting around?
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      165. It always perplexes me why top of the line equivalent has features missing that lower spec equipment has. Why not give the end user more flexibility? ????‍♂️
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      169. I will never buy a NAS with proprietary hard disks. In fact I stay away from every thing that is proprietary hardware, in 2021 I thought we were done with this shit, but looks is coming back again.
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      187. There is no reason this video needs to be 23 minutes long. Maybe try a 4-6 min MAX length video covering the key bullet points and functions of the product instead of rambling on for almost a half hour. Awesome videos, we all really appreciate the knowledge.
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